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Why are Betas being release on Friday
« on: November 05, 2017, 03:48:38 PM »
Sorry but this makes no sense. Hold off till Monday.
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Re: Why are Betas being release on Friday
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2017, 04:58:56 PM »
I have pretty much stopped testing the beta versions now, not just because of release on Friday (I just didn't install it until Monday). 

I feel that the beta versions aren't anything like as solid as they used to be, some stuff is getting through that should have been picked up by QA or Alpha testing.  You only need to browse the Beta sub-forum to see it.  Things getting introduced whilst there are still issues with the previous beta.

At least we are now getting a more detailed change log to show what bugs have been squashed.
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Re: Why are Betas being release on Friday
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2017, 01:48:05 PM »
Hi,

we usually aim for Thu but it often slips to Fri..Generally there is no big difference because we wouldn't fix anything on Friday as the fixes will be in next week beta. The weekend is important for us to collect feedback, both here and from our telemetry.  If we would release on Mon, then we would have data on Wed and then almost no time to fix them as the beta branch is usually created 3 days before beta release...

Regarding the quality....It's not comparable to state 2 or 3 years ago, when we were releasing 3 beta versions per quarter and the first 2 were usually in bad shape..

Yes there are still some minor issues not fixed between the betas but the betas aren't crashing or causing BSODs..

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Re: Why are Betas being release on Friday
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2017, 03:01:46 PM »
I'm not concerned as to what's fair, what is important is what users see/feel with bugs that really should have been picked up earlier in QA or Alpha testing. 

What is the all fired rush to push out monthly program updates if the betas are also rushed, information collected is also likely to be less.  With shorter time frames, then I guess QA and Alpha testing would also be pushed.
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Re: Why are Betas being release on Friday
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2017, 03:11:26 PM »
I would much rather see quality and perfection than quantity.
Those that pay for the product certainly deserve that.
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Re: Why are Betas being release on Friday
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2017, 09:36:30 AM »
test releases which aims to get feedback from weekend users are quite common in software development
instead of thinking about those as pre-weekend release, imagine it as 1-2 week-long gather data phases

depending on size of company and project those 'days' of releases could differ

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