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Google announced that it will keep third party code injection out of the browser:
https://blog.chromium.org/2017/11/reducing-chrome-crashes-caused-by-third.html

This will be so from july 2018  onwards. Microsoft signed code will be accepted,
("Microsoft-signed code, accessibility software, and IME software will not be affected.")
so Windows Defender will have a preferred advantage over third party injectors like a tool as say Adguard.

Seems Google will keep everything out that interferes or checks their core business.
Will this also affect the avast shields for instance?

Will be interesting to hear how AV vendors will react
when Google urges end-users to uninstall their AV solution of choice, because of crashing their client (browser)?

Please, Google don't be evil, as we know with stealth bitcoin mining arriving through third party code,
Google should consider such policies.

Isn't Google getting too big a technology data-slurping giant,
and is it not better for authorities to split the giant up,
to at least help innovation amongst other things.

Was that why they dropped that logo, see attached?

Will Google come with their own AV? ->
https://www.theverge.com/2017/10/16/16482802/google-chrome-windows-extensions-default-reset-anti-virus 

Probably GTM abuse has led to Google's decision as it is hard for them to police this ( while, you have black-hat hackers <a href="https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/11/22/cryptojackers_google_tag_manager_coin_hive/>using Google tag manager to mine crypto-currency</a>.

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« Last Edit: December 01, 2017, 05:55:48 PM by polonus »
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More of Google activity in this line: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/11/29/google_dev_network/

It is permissionless innovation, what we warned against.
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In fact, the .dev global top-level domain is owned by Google. And even though it has only made one domain live so far – the contractually obliged nic.dev – the search engine giant has the ability to add whatever .dev domains it wants to the public internet at any time it wants.

Gone
Which means that since December 16, 2014 your custom-slider.dev or standard.dev could have vanished at any point, overridden by a Google-owned property, depending on your DNS settings, of course.
  and Google and Amazon struck a deal
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In fact, both Google and Amazon applied for .dev, and Google got hold of it when it cut a deal with Amazon where the online retailer was given control of .book and .talk in return for Google having .dev and .drive.

You can Google, but you can not 'google'.  ;D ;)

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P.S. Another background read here: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/11/30/google_chrome_antivirus_shutout/
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Will be interesting to see if Avast keeps recommending Chrome in the future... ;)
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Avast own browser is on the corner, replacing SafeZone...
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Avast own browser is on the corner, replacing SafeZone...
Does that mean Avast drops the Chrome promotion soon..!??
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Avast own browser is on the corner, replacing SafeZone...
Does that mean Avast drops the Chrome promotion soon..!??

I would have thought this would be the first action in the war.  About time too I would have thought.
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Within 60 days Google will also come up with new telemetry rules for Apps on Android.

Read: https://security.googleblog.com/2017/12/additional-protections-by-safe-browsing.html

Will security apps also be hampered by this?

"Google a big Tech corporation that rules but does not rock" i.m.o.
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Using JAVA for this you see quite a lot: https://logging.apache.org/

Now you can feel that USA has turned to be more and more protectionistic.

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Well, I never was a fan of GC and the recent news certainly won't change my mind.
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Well, I never was a fan of GC and the recent news certainly won't change my mind.

I have avoided Google products (but it is damn hard) for the most part, I also have never tried Google Chrome. 

Even if Firefox goes to the dogs, as this shambles Firefox 57.0 Quantum appears to be doing, Chrome still won't be on the list of browsers to try.
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Ideas for alternatives, next to Brave, an ungoogled chromium: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ungoogled-chromium/

See what Google Chrome does in the background on port 5228: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=222894
also read here: https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=373181

Google waving a warning finger at others, well but never pointing back at Google...

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