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Internet Explorer 7 sucks on standards
« on: August 09, 2006, 12:42:58 AM »
Windows experts and web developers are unhappy with Microsoft. Yes, again. Since Internet Explorer 7 was announced, Microsoft has promised that supporting current web standards was high on its list. It turns out, though, that by at least one report, IE7 will only support 54% of the CSS 2.1 standard, as compared to 52% in IE6 and 93% in Firefox 1.5 and 96% in Opera 9. In addition to making a whole lot of web developers' lives a whole lot more difficult, IE7's lack of standards support is turning off a lot of Microsoft's most vocal fans, including Paul Thurrott, who runs the excellent Paul Thurrott's SuperSite for Windows. In a recent Windows IT Pro column, Thurrott accuses Microsoft of leaving users and web developers in the lurch, concluding "My advice is simple: Boycott IE. It's a cancer on the Web that must be stopped. IE isn't secure and isn't standards-compliant, which makes it unworkable both for end users and Web content creators." Ouch.

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Re: Internet Explorer 7 sucks on standards
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2006, 06:00:21 AM »
I agree it is necessary to boycott IE untill Microsoft improves it, However the fact that it is part of windows means there will be a lot of people who will use it and web developers, like it or not, will have to support it.
On the bright side a growing number of people are useing diffrent browsers Like Firefox, Opera and Safari
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Re: Internet Explorer 7 sucks on standards
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2006, 06:20:27 AM »
thanks Mac for the comments :o
i've always have used Netscape 8.1 and i use Opera 9 as my secondary browser,for some reason I don't feel secure with IE anymore ::)
« Last Edit: August 09, 2006, 06:47:24 AM by drhayden1 »

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Re: Internet Explorer 7 sucks on standards
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2006, 06:59:28 AM »
Maxthon seems to be a good browser and its based on IE. When they release ver. 2.0 nothing will stop it!

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Re: Internet Explorer 7 sucks on standards
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2006, 08:04:35 AM »
Hey New_Age 8)

Used to use Maxthon,when is the new version "suppose" to be released???? ::)
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Re: Internet Explorer 7 sucks on standards
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2006, 08:18:43 AM »
Hi folks,

M$ wil always have the advantage now of integrating the browser that deep into the OS with all the benefits for them, and the general disadvantages for those who have to deal with the browser vulnerabilities, e.g. the end-users. There are two things that you could do about this: use admin rights only when you absolutely cannot do without. For all other occasions, that is  under normal circumstances, browse with normal user rights only (still there is the fact that the browser has normal system's rights, which is a bit super, maybe this should change for the future). Then another thing is to let the whole of IE run inside a sandbox so that after one browser session you can "throw"that session out so to say. With SP2 they "overhauled" already 50 features to make the OS more secure, but more has to be done for sure. In the Vista days there will be stronger authentcation still, stronger validation still , less or no  "tinkering-possibilities" or only for the smart ones, and surfing neatly with your hands tight behind your backs. Handling the OS becomes more and more restrcted for the avaerage user, we already lost full dos-support, the dark side of this is where the "as default" situation is not secure, we all have a problem. Windows is a nice OS, but not  out of the box. Understand me right here, no system is secure as it comes out of the box. These issues have to be tackled first always.

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Re: Internet Explorer 7 sucks on standards
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2006, 11:04:52 AM »
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« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2006, 07:11:26 PM »
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Understand me right here, no system is secure as it comes out of the box. These issues have to be tackled first always.
But some are more secure than others out of the box
Mac & Linux > Windows out of the box
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« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2006, 08:45:08 PM »
Hi malware fighters,

Ans when a browser does not keep to standards, this is what you get although in IE6, it is exemplary:
http://www.securitytracker.com/alerts/2006/Aug/1016663.html

and rather ecent as well,

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Re: Internet Explorer 7 sucks on standards
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2006, 01:30:22 AM »
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Understand me right here, no system is secure as it comes out of the box. These issues have to be tackled first always.
But some are more secure than others out of the box
Mac & Linux > Windows out of the box
Only because they aren't as popular.
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« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2006, 06:15:42 PM »
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Bob is right. If those browsers were as popular (or used as much) as IE, they would be attacked more and therefore there would be more problems with those browsers.


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Re: Internet Explorer 7 sucks on standards
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2006, 02:45:31 AM »
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Understand me right here, no system is secure as it comes out of the box. These issues have to be tackled first always.
But some are more secure than others out of the box
Mac & Linux > Windows out of the box
Only because they aren't as popular.

Agreed, The same goes for people saying that the Mac doesn't get viruses, If it were more popular it would have the same problems Windows has.
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Re: Internet Explorer 7 sucks on standards
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2006, 03:22:20 AM »
The mac does get viruses there were lots for Mac OS 7.x - 9.x

And there are a few tpjans for Mac OS X

Linux and Mac are still built better than windows in my opinion
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« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2006, 03:30:52 AM »
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« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2006, 03:37:27 AM »
 ;D ;D ;D Yea and im a Supporter of linux too
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