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Offline Jeleal

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Will Avast 4.8 do better?
« on: April 04, 2008, 01:18:14 AM »
I just read that Avast 4.7 missed 19 "In The Wild" Viruses in the latest Virus Bulletin test. First of all how did this happen? And second, will 4.8 do be better?

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Re: Will Avast 4.8 do better?
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2008, 03:58:31 AM »
Where did you read?
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Re: Will Avast 4.8 do better?
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2008, 04:45:36 AM »

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Re: Will Avast 4.8 do better?
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2008, 08:23:06 AM »
probably the avast! team was too hard working on developing the new 4.8 version, so they couldn't improve the virusdatabase ;D

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Re: Will Avast 4.8 do better?
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2008, 08:52:52 AM »
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A complete list:
- Passed: AEC/Trustport, AVG/Grisoft, Avira, CA (various products), Eset, Fortinet, FRISK, F-Secure, GDATA/AVK, Kaspersky, Kingsoft, Microsoft, MicroWorld/eScan, Redstone (?), Symantec.
- Failed: Agnitum (4 wildlist misses), AhnLab (2 wildlist misses), Alwil/avast! (19 wildlist misses, 1 false positive), BitDefender/SOFTWIN (2 wildlist misses), Bullguard (2 wildlist misses), Doctor Web (47 wildlist misses), Hauri (3 wildlist misses), Ikarus (24 wildlist misses, 6 false positives), K7 Computing (19 wildlist misses, 2 false positives), McAfee (1 wildlist miss), Norman (1 false positive), PC Tools AntiVirus (4 wildlist misses), CAT QuickHeal (2 false positives), Rising (3 wildlist misses, 1 false positive), Security Coverage PC Live (859 wildlist misses, 1 false positive), Sophos (2 wildlist misses), Trend Micro (3 wildlist misses, 2 false positives), VirusBuster (4 wildlist misses), Webroot (2 wildlist misses)

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Re: Will Avast 4.8 do better?
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2008, 11:23:38 AM »
Alwil/avast! (19 wildlist misses, 1 false positive) too high  :-\

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Re: Will Avast 4.8 do better?
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2008, 12:04:39 PM »
Yea i have read it. Alwil/avast! (19 wildlist misses, 1 false positive) thats bad

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Re: Will Avast 4.8 do better?
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2008, 12:10:14 PM »
However, what we can never tell from these surveys is the much more important figure of:

How many users of avast got infected ?

How many users of product x got infected ?

How many users of product y got infected ?

All I know for sure is that using avast as realtime protection (and other on demand scanners) not I or any of the users I support has reported a single infection since starting to use avast in 2004.

While I do not want the avast team to think there is not room for improvement I doubt that avast or any other product can exceed the achievement they have for me and the folks I support.   
« Last Edit: April 04, 2008, 12:13:37 PM by alanrf »

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Re: Will Avast 4.8 do better?
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2008, 01:06:10 PM »
Avast! is the ONLY "non intrusive" AV I can use that doesn't slow down my system, and also has painless  updates. Still however, 19 ITW misses is VERY BAD and they need to quickly update the signatures and TELL THE USERS they did so..

 
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Re: Will Avast 4.8 do better?
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2008, 01:23:27 PM »
I hope that Vlk will forgive me for quoting a non-public comment but ...

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Just FYI, the 19 missed samples were all samples of the same virus.

So, yes, how bad can we make things look if we do not know the facts?

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Re: Will Avast 4.8 do better?
« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2008, 06:34:53 PM »
I hope that Vlk will forgive me for quoting a non-public comment but ...

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Just FYI, the 19 missed samples were all samples of the same virus.

So, yes, how bad can we make things look if we do not know the facts?

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how much time, confusion, and wasted energy can be conserved and misunderstandings be eliminated or greatly reduced if we DO in fact, know the facts.... ::)
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Re: Will Avast 4.8 do better?
« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2008, 09:28:56 PM »
You guys think 19 is bad?

I have ~250 (and growing) sitting in my Virus Chest, all of them waiting for Alwil to add detection for. ::)

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Re: Will Avast 4.8 do better?
« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2008, 04:36:18 AM »
You guys think 19 is bad?

I have ~250 (and growing) sitting in my Virus Chest, all of them waiting for Alwil to add detection for. ::)
Did you submit them for analysis?
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Re: Will Avast 4.8 do better?
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2008, 10:07:55 AM »
Did you submit them for analysis?

Of course. Plus a few new Storm worm variants freshly released yesterday/today.

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Re: Will Avast 4.8 do better?
« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2008, 10:13:58 AM »
You guys think 19 is bad?

I have ~250 (and growing) sitting in my Virus Chest, all of them waiting for Alwil to add detection for. ::)
Ha ha what a bad day you have solcroft