VB100 Oct2008

[MWassef]

Passed:
Agnitum,AhnLab,Alwil,AVG,Eset,Fortinet,FRISK,Kingsoft,McAfee,Microsoft Forefront,Norman,Rising,Sophos,Symantec,AEC (Trustport) and VirusBuster.

Failed:
ArcaBit,Avira,CA eTrust,F-Secure,Kaspersky,MicroWorld,Quick Heal and Redstone.

Good job alwil 

[Texas-Hansen]

Do you have a link?

Is this the one that VB tested the AV programs using Windows Server 2008?

[MWassef]

http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archive/2008/10

[MWassef]

and this..

[Lisandro]

Failed:
ArcaBit,Avira,CA eTrust,F-Secure,Kaspersky,MicroWorld,Quick Heal and Redstone.

Hey people... Avira, F-Secure, Kaspersky... big ones failing

[Texas-Hansen]

Failed:
ArcaBit,Avira,CA eTrust,F-Secure,Kaspersky,MicroWorld,Quick Heal and Redstone.

Hey people... Avira, F-Secure, Kaspersky... big ones failing

Question, what's different that when these AV programs are tested on Windows Home Server 2008 versus standard platform OS like Vista or XP, they fail?    I wonder if it's the testing methodology.  I saw something that looked like Avira failed due to 1 false positive.  If so, that's a pretty tough standard given how easier it can be to have false positives these days. 

[Lisandro]

I saw something that looked like Avira failed due to 1 false positive.  If so, that's a pretty tough standard given how easier it can be to have false positives these days. 

Rules... rules... The price of a high detection rate (even on marketing field) is a false positive target...

[Dwarden]

Question, what's different that when these AV programs are tested on Windows Home Server 2008 versus standard platform OS like Vista or XP, they fail?    I wonder if it's the testing methodology.  I saw something that looked like Avira failed due to 1 false positive.  If so, that's a pretty tough standard given how easier it can be to have false positives these days. 
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if i remember correctly if enterprise / networked product exist for server platform then that one is used instead usual 'desktop' ones ...

[solcroft]

Rules... rules... The price of a high detection rate (even on marketing field) is a false positive target...

Before putting avast! on a pedestal, let's not forget avast!'s 47 false positives in the latest AV-Comparatives test compared with Avira's 17. Besides, just count the threads on the first page of this forum; I can spot 3 about FPs at the time of this writing.

[Lisandro]

Before putting avast! on a pedestal

I'm not doing that... I'm the first to complain about lower detection rates, I'm the first to complain about false positives... but, there is a but, when avast wins people say "calm down", when it loses, well, people blame... It isn't fair also.

[solcroft]

but, there is a but, when avast wins people say "calm down", when it loses, well, people blame...

Perhaps that's because it's true. Have you considered that?

I'm not saying that avast! is a bad product, but personally I wouldn't call passing VB100% a win.

[Bluesman]

Before putting avast! on a pedestal,

As avast is the nr 1 antivirus program for me on my computers, avast is always on the pedestal here...even with false positives

But of course, the pedestal looks better without false positives

[Lisandro]

Perhaps that's because it's true. Have you considered that?

It's not truth... people say what they heard last week or, worse, read yesterday. I'm not putting avast in a pedestal, I won't blame avast. I'd rather be realist and fair. I have already considerer what you're saying... I'm not a fan boy.

I wouldn't call passing VB100% a win.

I think it's a win, not of a war, but a single battle win.

[solcroft]

It's not truth... people say what they heard last week or, worse, read yesterday.

And you're so sure of that because?
At the very least, I don't think avast!'s 47 FPs is hearsay.

[Lisandro]

And you're so sure of that because?

Because I know avast, because I use it from 5 years, because I've participated in this forum quite a long time, because I heard what people said about avast without even knowing it, because I heard what people said about security, antivirus, freewares, etc.

I'm not defending avast false positives. Just saying that should be the temporary price to pay in order to improve the generic signatures and enhance detection.