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I've outpost firewall pro and it has HIPS protection, beside that I've Avast Pro 4.8 and MBAM (Piad Version). do I need Threatfire now?
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Re: beside Avast 4.8 Pro, since I've outpost fw Pro, is Threatfire needed?
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2009, 10:24:20 AM »
In my opinion, no. All that will happen is that you might have to answer a few extra popups, for perceived (or genuine) malicious behaviour.
I would say your level of protection is extremely good. No need to overdo it.
(That said, it assumes that Outposts' HIPS is OK, a good one. I don't actually know. HIPS in general, working correctly, and correctly responded to, are powerful security tools.)
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Re: beside Avast 4.8 Pro, since I've outpost fw Pro, is Threatfire needed?
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2009, 10:32:47 AM »
Thank you, Tarq57.
I've set my outpost host protection to Advanced Level and it seems working nice, I had SuperAntiSpyware Pro and KeyScrambler and Treatfire Pro too, but I've removed them to speed up my computer. I was wondering if I'm still protected or not... ;)
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Re: beside Avast 4.8 Pro, since I've outpost fw Pro, is Threatfire needed?
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2009, 10:36:04 AM »
Did you notice a significant performance increase, Omid?
I think you are definitely adequately protected, provided you answer any alerts correctly.
Hope you also have a backup and recovery plan.
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Re: beside Avast 4.8 Pro, since I've outpost fw Pro, is Threatfire needed?
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2009, 10:45:42 AM »
Yes, I feel my windows is working more smooth, Browser (itself, not time to open a site) open a few faster, somethings like players and other programs lunch faster and I feel it's working better with less delay.
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Re: beside Avast 4.8 Pro, since I've outpost fw Pro, is Threatfire needed?
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2009, 10:50:32 AM »
Just get yourself a program, like Norton Ghost, Acronis, or the free Macrium Reflect, and back up all your data to another medium every so often. Like an external hard drive.
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Re: beside Avast 4.8 Pro, since I've outpost fw Pro, is Threatfire needed?
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2009, 11:00:42 AM »
Ok, I did try Norton Ghost a few days ago and could not find it interesting, I was a Norton GoBack fan years ago!
I would try another program to do that

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Re: beside Avast 4.8 Pro, since I've outpost fw Pro, is Threatfire needed?
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2009, 01:24:18 PM »
With Outpost + avast + MBAM installed I think Threatfire is redundant, too much resources will be taken for not a significant protection level.
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Re: beside Avast 4.8 Pro, since I've outpost fw Pro, is Threatfire needed?
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2009, 08:54:33 PM »
and so, what about Spyware Terminator instead of Threatfire?
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Re: beside Avast 4.8 Pro, since I've outpost fw Pro, is Threatfire needed?
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2009, 09:07:13 PM »
They are like chalk and cheese so they aren't the same so shouldn't be an option to swap. ST doesn't have HIPS, unless you are reading something that isn't in their features list, http://www.spywareterminator.com/features/antispyware-features.aspx.
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Re: beside Avast 4.8 Pro, since I've outpost fw Pro, is Threatfire needed?
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2009, 10:46:23 PM »
They are like chalk and cheese so they aren't the same so shouldn't be an option to swap. ST doesn't have HIPS, unless you are reading something that isn't in their features list, http://www.spywareterminator.com/features/antispyware-features.aspx.
You aren't right - ST does have HIPS. I'm successfully using HIPS on ST.

There is another problem with ST. They have two versions of the program: 2.3 and 2.5. The 2.3 is reliable and unobtrusive, and users of 2.5 constantly report about crashes, freezes, files disappearings and other severe troubles. I can't understand the developers - why did they insist that 2.5 is "more reliable and more progressive"?
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Re: beside Avast 4.8 Pro, since I've outpost fw Pro, is Threatfire needed?
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2009, 11:33:06 PM »
They need to make that clear in their features then, that is where I came to the conclusion wrongly that it didn't.
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Re: beside Avast 4.8 Pro, since I've outpost fw Pro, is Threatfire needed?
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2009, 03:09:44 AM »
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and so, what about Spyware Terminator instead of Threatfire?
No need. You have  a HIPS in the firewall, a very good antispyware in MBAM, a very good AV in Avast. ST is only going to add a slowdown, with little - if any - increase of protection.

For those interested, http://www.spywareterminator.com/ (3rd bullet) ST dows include HIPS protection. It is not exhaustive, I can't remember the areas it doesn't cover, sorry, stopped using ST some time ago when development appeared to turn the wrong way.
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Re: beside Avast 4.8 Pro, since I've outpost fw Pro, is Threatfire needed?
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2009, 03:25:56 AM »
I tried it for a very short time I didn't really like it and preferred SAS. I subsequently bought the SAS Pro version for a small one off payment and then found MBAM, compared to SAS and MBAM, ST comes in third IMHO.
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Re: beside Avast 4.8 Pro, since I've outpost fw Pro, is Threatfire needed?
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2009, 03:56:47 PM »
I tried it for a very short time I didn't really like it and preferred SAS. I subsequently bought the SAS Pro version for a small one off payment and then found MBAM, compared to SAS and MBAM, ST comes in third IMHO.
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