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Offline DavidR

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Re: Advices, sugestions, recomendations are welcome!
« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2009, 05:49:07 PM »
Well why need another anti spyware and a anti malware when you got a anti virus and anti spyware ? I dont think you need that mush security. Anti Virus,Anti Spyware,Firewall are like essential that Microsoft did said.

Also Avast! detect 98,7 % of the virus so with Windows Defender he wld can detect maybe the rest its would be like really fair with the Firewall and UAC.

Because they are specialist anti-spyware scanners, avast 'doesn't' scan the registry for spyware related entries. If avast finds a spyware file then it would check the registry for associated entries, but it doesn't do it pro-actively during on-demand scans.
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Re: Advices, sugestions, recomendations are welcome!
« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2009, 05:53:43 PM »
Specialist ? Well hackers are intelligent now a day. Like they try to hide their virus on the program or something like that i dont know. But for sure i do agree with Microsoft for their recommandation of security that is essential. If you think registry is really a big thing to infect a pc then its not. The most dangerous would be that a virus hit your pc or identity. So that why a Anti Virus and Anti Spyware with Firewall is there for resolve the problem.
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« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2009, 07:30:09 PM »
Specialist ?
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If you think registry is really a big thing to infect a pc then its not.
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Yes, specialist as that is their 'only' specialist task.

You're clearly wrong again, take a wander into the viruses and worms forum and check out SAS and MBAM logs and there are many registry entries that are dangerous.

Changing the registry allows for later disablement of firewall, AV, etc. without a peep from the WSC. There are many such registry hacks/exploits and avast simply doesn't even look for them, but specialist anti-spyware applications do..
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« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2009, 08:45:27 PM »
Well maybe your true but i think i can choice what i want for security or no right ? I payed my cpu so i can choice what i want like the others users :)

Bye and have a nice day.

PS : I did hear that some registry can destroy your pc (if you delete a false positive) But maybe its true or no. But for sure im happy with what i got for secure my pc. I know what i use and i got some security program that what its important.

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« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2009, 08:58:06 PM »
This is what i suggest
AVAST 4.8 ANTIVIRUS
ONLINEARMOR FIREWALL or another one
Dr Web Antivirus CureIT free
Avast is a very effective antimalware scanner and it will take care of everything bad trying to attack your computer.
Onlinearmor firewall is one of the best firewalls IMO and it will do the job
Dt Web CureIT will scan only when you download it and run it. It has no impact on your resources.Many will enclude SAS or MBAM free but while  i had them they served me nothing. So i uninstalled them e few months ago and everytime i do a scan with CUREIT  i am clean.
Also i will recomend AVG LINKSCANNER free tool which i find effective in site rating or WOT
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« Reply #20 on: July 01, 2009, 09:00:59 PM »
Like i can see every guy and specialist got his own security and its the way to the users if he choice this or no. Like i say i got all Microsoft mentioned for a essential security to protect my pc. So if i want bonus i will do it. But for now im not plained to install/uninstall a security to replace or something.

So i appreciate your recommendation David but for now i dont need it. Just dont worry about my pc. I handle it.

Bye and thank you.

Have a nice day.

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« Last Edit: July 01, 2009, 09:08:05 PM by Mr.Agent »

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« Reply #21 on: July 01, 2009, 10:29:47 PM »
Well maybe your true but i think i can choice what i want for security or no right ? I payed my cpu so i can choice what i want like the others users :)

Bye and have a nice day.

PS : I did hear that some registry can destroy your pc (if you delete a false positive) But maybe its true or no. But for sure im happy with what i got for secure my pc. I know what i use and i got some security program that what its important.

Mr.Agent

Yes its your choice, but when giving/offering/suggesting advice to others then you have to be a little more careful and confirm what you say is fact rather than conjecture.

So now you have said some registry can destroy your PC, which if anything supports having a specialist anti-spyware as it is entirely possible for malware to do exactly that. That is why a specialist application is more likely to get it right in that regard, however, like anything security related you shouldn't take anything at face value and conform detections before taking action.

Registry cleaners too would fall into that category could damage your system, but they too are specialist tools and choose the right one which back-up before removing registry entries are less likely to cause unrecoverable issues. The same is true of specialist anti-spyware that back-up/quarantine detections to give a recovery option.

As you said your system your choice, but that is it your choice, so others should make their own informed decision based on fact rather than conjecture.
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Re: Advices, sugestions, recomendations are welcome!
« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2009, 01:20:34 AM »
Well i can say i got some security program and yeah Avast! is a part of my anti virus and i can say since i got Avast! i never did got any problem. Before i was having Kaspersky,Mcafee,Norton...... And my computer was getting owned all time by these virus. But until i get Avast! its learning me a lot and now i recently dont get virus or something. So yeah i did learning a lot with Avast! by these nice users. And if there was a follow problem again a virus that Avast! or my anti spyware scanner that will fail again it. For sure i would try these 2 on demand anti spywares that u said. That what its great to suggest. Because more we talk about anti virus product and security. Then more we will know and discover.

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« Reply #23 on: July 02, 2009, 07:39:18 PM »
Ok guys, that was very helpful so far. I really had better picture about this. Since I post this thread asking for "Advices, suggestions, recommendations" just wanted to hear from more experienced/knowledgeable what works. If  someone thinks "essentials" are enough that's OK, I respect that. But I am looking for additional layers of protection to have "piece of mind".

@DavidR
I have read some nice reviews about "Threatfire" (and some so-so) why you don't recommend it? ???

When I was reading some reviews on other sites, there was something it was really annoying. It is advertisement that pops-up when you slide mouse over a word that is "underlined" with 2 lines. I would really like to avoid this thing. How?

Sorry for bothering, but like I said I'am not very experienced about software.

Thanx again,
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« Reply #24 on: July 02, 2009, 08:10:47 PM »
@ goranilic
From your list I would get rid of spybot s&d, Threatfire and keep the rest.

wth. I like SpyBot.

Gor, there are multiple layers of protection you can have, but you need to be careful not to have multiple antivirus programs installed simultaneously. AV programs' primary function is as something called TSR (Terminate and Stay Resident,) which means the Antivirus runs in the background and acts accordingly when it needs to. If you have mutiple AV's installed at the same time, they can sllloooowww your system down by scanning each other or the same files you're trying to access, together, all day long. There are other programs called antispyware or antimalware, which don't scan your system in the same fashion, and thus don't conflict with your antivirus. Among these antispyware programs, some of them edit your Hosts file or registry to block installation of certain spywares, while others are used to scan your computer for spyware to discover if any are installed. SuperAntiSpyware, Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware, and Ad-Aware only run scans when you tell them to check for spyware (unless you pay, and it will schedule it.) SpywareBlaster edits the registry and host file to block spyware installations. SpyBot does both.

Okay, so first thing... Norton sucks. Never use Norton. Ever.

Second, Avast is wonderful as an Antivirus software. It's free and imo, it works at least as well as Trend's PC-cillin does, if not better.

Third, with regard to "multiple layers of protection," I would suggest installing SpywareBlaster, SpyBot, SuperAntiSpyware AND Anti-Malware.

Use SpyBot's immunize ability and SpywareBlaster to prevent certain programs from ever installing.

Use SuperAntiSpyware and/or Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware to scan for spyware if you're suspicious that any could be installed on your machine. These two programs have better active scanning abilities than SpyBot does, but I find that SpyBot's Immunize option works well.

And, of course, use Avast!. I got a virus/malware once with AVG, that Avast! would have detected.
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« Reply #25 on: July 02, 2009, 08:47:25 PM »
@DavidR
(1)I have read some nice reviews about "Threatfire" (and some so-so) why you don't recommend it? ???

(2)When I was reading some reviews on other sites, there was something it was really annoying. It is advertisement that pops-up when you slide mouse over a word that is "underlined" with 2 lines. I would really like to avoid this thing. How?

#1 Personally I have never felt the need to use it given the other protection that I have and there have been a number of topics reporting problems with it and other programs (firefox add-ons for one).

#2 This is normally in the html code (mouseover) that can change the text colour, size and as you can see small notification pop-ups. It entirely depends on how they achieve that (javascript, html or css, etc.) and the browser you are using. So there really is no easy way to answer as there is no information to work with.

Me I would suggest firefox and noscript as if this is script based (javascript not html) then noscript would block it unless you gave permission for that site to run scripts.
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« Reply #26 on: July 02, 2009, 11:37:46 PM »
Thanx DavidR for all help it's highly appreciated,

Let me hear opinion for couple more freebies:

Spyware Doctor Starter Edition - paid version has very high reviews

Spyware Terminator

Returnil Virtual System

Thx,
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« Reply #27 on: July 02, 2009, 11:54:00 PM »
Sorry I forgot to add

a-squared Anti-Malware 4.0


THX

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Re: Advices, sugestions, recomendations are welcome!
« Reply #28 on: July 03, 2009, 03:49:05 PM »
Spyware terminator review- part 1  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YjBO2hmwvI&feature=channel_page
                                      part 2  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpEYEXwBme0&feature=channel_page


A sqaured review - http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=mrizos&view=videos&query=squared   Watch all 5 part

Spyware doctor starter edition has decent detection but is a memory hog

Never tested Returnil virtual system
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« Reply #29 on: July 03, 2009, 04:59:26 PM »
Never tested Returnil virtual system
It's not an antispyware but a "system freeze" tool, a full sandbox of the system partition: nothing is saved to it, you restart your computer and it's turned back to the original (freezed) state.
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