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Admiralbutthead

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A Secure Browser
« on: October 11, 2009, 07:41:49 AM »
Hey All,

Well I am sure most of you have had the same thoughts on browsers these days; especially after Microsoft came out with their security warning about holes in IE's security (holes? no kidding...).  I find it difficult to use IE after Microsoft came out and warned us about it having problems...  I currently use Maxthon but it seems to be lagging behind on updates.  How is IE 8 coming along?  I usually don't use anything from Microsoft until they have had it on the market a while and people like you tell their people where the holes are and how to fix them...

So what to use; that is the question...  I can't tell if Avast helps make my browser more secure; is there any in poarticular that Avast works better with?

YoKenny

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Re: A Secure Browser
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2009, 08:51:19 AM »
I use IE8 and it has been available since March 18, 2009:
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2009/mar09/03-18IE8AvailablePR.mspx

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Dch48

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Re: A Secure Browser
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2009, 11:51:45 AM »
I use IE8 and I love it. It has been tested a few times and shown to be the best of all the browsers in blocking malware in it's default out of the box configuration. the SmartScreen filter is fantastic. It has caught a couple of rogue antivirus things and shut down the page they were on before my security suite even got a shot at them.

cinchez

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Re: A Secure Browser
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2009, 12:23:58 PM »
I use firefox with NoScript^^

Its great so far^^

-AnimeLover^^

Dch48

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Re: A Secure Browser
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2009, 12:42:22 PM »
But--in order for Firefox to achieve the security level of IE8, it needs to have addons installed. to me, that's a flaw. they even recommend installing the addons. If they know you need the addons to be secure, why don't they incorporate them into the program to begin with?  I can't figure that out.

YoKenny

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Re: A Secure Browser
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2009, 01:00:17 PM »
@Dch48

You need to learn about fanboys:
http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/fanboy.htm

There are a few here but I like to be more like:
http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/eaglescout.htm

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Hermite15

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Re: A Secure Browser
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2009, 01:10:43 PM »
funny MS acknowledging about IE security flaws...I'd love to have the link. Firefox's a million times more secure than Internet Explorer, add-ons or not. There's nothing to demonstrate anymore there, for years now. Internet Explorer has never been and will never be secure. It is Microsoft's shaming component in Windows, and it should be discontinued if you ask me. It's not just not secure, its outdated, version after version still based on the old good Internet Explorer we had in Windows 95. They know it at MS, they damned know it. They're now  developing a completely new interface called "gazelle"...as a response to Google Waves and Google Chrome OS... Hope that's not vaporware.
« Last Edit: October 11, 2009, 01:33:13 PM by Logos »

cinchez

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Re: A Secure Browser
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2009, 01:32:17 PM »
But--in order for Firefox to achieve the security level of IE8, it needs to have addons installed. to me, that's a flaw. they even recommend installing the addons. If they know you need the addons to be secure, why don't they incorporate them into the program to begin with?  I can't figure that out.
Not siding with IE nor FF, but flaws are just "there". It just doesnt go away^^
If there is someone or something that doesnt have a single flaw, then something or someone will make one for it/him/her.^^

-AnimeLover^^

Dch48

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Re: A Secure Browser
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2009, 01:45:46 PM »
@Dch48

You need to learn about fanboys:
http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/fanboy.htm

There are a few here but I like to be more like:
http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/eaglescout.htm

Watch out for Enfant Provocateur.
I am not a "fanboy" I will acknowledge anything's faults as well as it's strengths but I will defend anything and anybody against unfair and inaccurate attacks. Certainly IE has had it's share of flaws, but so have every one of the competing browsers. Actually they're not really flaws because no one can forsee how malicious individuals will find holes in software you have spent years in developing and testing to make sure it works properly at what it's designed to do. The emphasis is on making it work in the existing environment where it will be used, not some impossible to see future where lowlifes have found ways to exploit it.
« Last Edit: October 11, 2009, 01:49:24 PM by Dch48 »

avast_junkie

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Re: A Secure Browser
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2009, 02:00:23 PM »
how about opera or chrome
Long time ago i was opera fanboy 8), but now i'm using FF with ABP, NS

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Re: A Secure Browser
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2009, 02:45:09 PM »
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Internet Explorer has never been and will never be secure. It is Microsoft's shaming component in Windows, and it should be discontinued if you ask me.
You're allowed to have your own opinion.
There isn't any browser that's safe. They all have flaws. IE 8 is as good as FF and FF is as good as Opera and at the moment I'm using Google Chrome.
Admiralbutthead,
Maxthon is a browser based on IE with some extra bells and whistles but its still uses the same engine as Microsoft Internet Explorer.
 
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Hermite15

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Re: A Secure Browser
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2009, 02:54:28 PM »
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Internet Explorer has never been and will never be secure. It is Microsoft's shaming component in Windows, and it should be discontinued if you ask me.
You're allowed to have your own opinion.
There isn't any browser that's safe. They all have flaws. IE 8 is as good as FF and FF is as good as Opera and at the moment I'm using Google Chrome.
Admiralbutthead,
Maxthon is a browser based on IE with some extra bells and whistles but its still uses the same engine as Microsoft Internet Explorer.
 

thanks  ;D so they're all as good hey..when diplomacy equals absurdity. Saying that IE's as good as Firefox is like saying that Mars's the planet next door  ;) Opera and Chrome are good, in their own way...IE's ugly, in every way, and Firefox is of course not 100% safe, but the safest of them all, and by far.

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Re: A Secure Browser
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2009, 03:36:28 PM »
Again, enjoy your opinion, you're entitled to it. :)
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Re: A Secure Browser
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2009, 04:16:39 PM »
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A Secure Browser ... there is no such thing and never will be.

What one person can code, another person can break.


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Re: A Secure Browser
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2009, 07:06:05 PM »
Hi Admiralbutthead,

Now that extensions coming to Chrome and SRWareIron it is a reliable fast browser.
Firefox with some security extensions is also very reliable, I use it with NoScript and RequestPolicy and ABP. Browser development is a constant fight against bugs, leaks and exploits, always update and patch and use your common sense,

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