Hi essexboy...
just tried to scan with gmer but it stopped working first time windows
showed box saying it had stopped working & lookin for a solution..
so tried again and windows closed pc down.. had to start up again???
i have a problem with stopping the s-antispyware can't find a button to turn it off
..could that be the reason or one of the reasons???
do i have to close windows firewall aswell...and i think defender is still on?? though i
have security essentials now as i find it better..