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Hermite15

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« Reply #210 on: April 21, 2011, 12:49:26 PM »
one important thing to note is that yeah, it's important to encrypt the backup (@Mac and PC level) as it syncs with the cloud, but  - stating the obvious - the backed up file, or the info, in whatever form it is collected is on your phone, where it can be transmitted ... or not... need a good sniffer to check that. Like I described in a post above, you can view iPhone connections with fiddler (MS utility)... but it could take ages until you find out about this particular transmission, if it ever happens.
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« Reply #211 on: April 21, 2011, 01:08:26 PM »
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« Reply #212 on: April 21, 2011, 01:32:11 PM »
a good read here: http://petewarden.github.com/iPhoneTracker/#faq
according to them , there's no evidence that the data is transmitted. It can't - in clear - when encrypted anyway (but that's not the default)... and who knows what happens from the phone...
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« Reply #213 on: April 21, 2011, 01:43:38 PM »
yeah I shouldn't feel personally concerned as I own an iPod and no iPhone, meaning that obviously there's no GPS there. But... I've been absolutely amazed for a while  now by the precision of geolocation tools on the system. It's done via Internet exclusively (as I'm just on wifi), like it would be on a desktop... with this main difference: geolocation from desktop apps find your nearest ISP server... and that's most of the time a few miles away from where you live... while geolocation on iOS finds you exactly where you are... believe it or not... and not just the street, but where in the street >>> this can be checked on Apple's "map" app in satellite view where you'll find a nice tag on top of your exact location: your house or the building where your flat is. I have no idea how they do that... anyway at this level, geolocation can be deactivated completely from iOS UI.



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« Reply #214 on: April 21, 2011, 01:51:02 PM »
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« Reply #215 on: April 21, 2011, 01:58:56 PM »
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US Senator, Al Franken, has written a letter to Apple, asking questions about why the data was not encrypted, how precise the information is and why weren't consumers informed of the existence of the tracking.

http://www.franken.senate.gov/files/letter/110420_Apple_Letter.pdf
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« Reply #216 on: April 21, 2011, 02:22:41 PM »
Quote from: spg SCOTT on April 21, 2011, 01:51:02 PM
Yeah, that little blue dot ;D

Googling revealed this?
http://www.macrumors.com/2008/01/23/skyhooks-wi-fi-location-technology-for-iphone-ipod-touch/

yeah I knew and I thought about that (I got the "free wifi app"), but there's no wifi hotspot in my direct neighborhood. The nearest ones are a few hundred meters away, and not in the same street.  So, unless they detect - and they probably do - my router... or my iPod...,this could be it...  but I don't believe it's that, because my iPod detection of these hotspots from where I live is very erratic, and geolocation like I described it works all the time.

edit: okay this should be it after all, as the hotspots have obviously a more powerful detection than my device has.
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« Reply #217 on: April 21, 2011, 03:32:52 PM »
Quote from: Asyn on April 21, 2011, 01:58:56 PM
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US Senator, Al Franken, has written a letter to Apple, asking questions about why the data was not encrypted, how precise the information is and why weren't consumers informed of the existence of the tracking.

http://www.franken.senate.gov/files/letter/110420_Apple_Letter.pdf

Just what we need. Politicians sticking their nose into more things that they probably know little about.
Geo Location if you don't like it, turn it off. If you turn it off, then don't complain if your mapping doesn't
work properly.
Unless you have someone after you, what's the difference if it's possible to see where you are at any one time ???
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Re: **SMART PHONES - UPDATES & MALWARE**
« Reply #218 on: April 21, 2011, 03:41:01 PM »
Quote from: bob3160 on April 21, 2011, 03:32:52 PM
Geo Location if you don't like it, turn it off.

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It now appears that turning off "Location Services" in the iPhone does not stop the collection of data in the "consolidated.db" database.
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« Reply #219 on: April 21, 2011, 07:27:49 PM »
Breaking news: your iPhone is tracking you
iPhones and iPads have been recording their owner’s every move. Should you be concerned?
http://www.sync-blog.com/sync/2011/04/breaking-news-your-iphone-is-tracking-you.html
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« Reply #220 on: April 21, 2011, 07:33:01 PM »
Kenny, see replies #203-218.
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« Reply #221 on: April 21, 2011, 07:58:11 PM »
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« Reply #222 on: April 22, 2011, 10:31:46 AM »

Cops Refuse to Say if They Secretly Snarf Cellphone Data:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/04/21/police_cellphone_searches/

This article pertains to the US but I'm sure it will spread.  I guess the harvesting of cell phone data has been going on for a while and we didn't know about it.  Now that the news about the iPhone data collection has been leaked, everyone is up in arms about it since the police have a tool to read the data from any smartphone just being near it...like parked near you and you wouldn't know they are doing this.
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« Reply #223 on: April 22, 2011, 10:47:22 AM »
Quote from: SafeSurf on April 22, 2011, 10:31:46 AM
Cops Refuse to Say if They Secretly Snarf Cellphone Data:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/04/21/police_cellphone_searches/
This article pertains to the US but I'm sure it will spread.  I guess the harvesting of cell phone data has been going on for a while and we didn't know about it.  Now that the news about the iPhone data collection has been leaked, everyone is up in arms about it since the police have a tool to read the data from any smartphone just being near it...like parked near you and you wouldn't know they are doing this.
I knew about that for a while.  Been privy to it myself, actually.  None of it is admissible in court. ;)  (well, without a warrant anyhow)
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« Reply #224 on: April 22, 2011, 11:04:16 AM »
Quote from: Gargamel360 on April 22, 2011, 10:47:22 AM
Been privy to it myself, actually.  None of it is admissible in court. ;)  (well, without a warrant anyhow)
Not admissible in court, huh?  That's not what the news is saying where I live.  Of course this story changes by the hour.  ::)  I'm sure a warrant is needed if you ask me or there would be lawsuits.
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