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BRANDONN2008

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HOSTS file or DNS?
« on: January 20, 2011, 09:11:53 PM »
Which is better, using Hostsman to update my HOSTS file, or using something like ClearCloud DNS? A DNS server seems like it would be easier for my neighbors and family to deal with than updating the HOSTS file, but I want to know if it is as good as updating the HOSTS file.

YoKenny

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Re: HOSTS file or DNS?
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2011, 09:49:26 PM »
You are talking about two different things and you need to learn a bit about what you are trying to do.

Read about the HOSTS file:
Blocking Unwanted Parasites with a Hosts File
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm   


BRANDONN2008

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Re: HOSTS file or DNS?
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2011, 09:53:08 PM »
Well but they both stop you from getting to the bad site. The HOSTS file tells your computer the files for the site are on your computer, and it sounds like the DNS server will give you a page from their site instead of a bad site on their database.

YoKenny

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Re: HOSTS file or DNS?
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2011, 10:02:09 PM »
I have no idea of what you are saying  ???
What do you want to do  ???
Do you want to use the ClearCloud DNS instead of the HOSTS file ???
HostsMan automatically keeps the HOSTS file up to date with the latest definitions that it supports.
I use OpenDNS as well as the HOSTS file.

BRANDONN2008

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Re: HOSTS file or DNS?
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2011, 10:14:47 PM »
I just want to know which one would block more bad sites, with the least user interaction. Which would be easier for computer illiterate people.

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Re: HOSTS file or DNS?
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2011, 11:37:13 PM »
I just want to know which one would block more bad sites, with the least user interaction. Which would be easier for computer illiterate people.
Probably neither since both requires dome changes. For one you'll need to change your default Host file, for the other you need to set up the proper
routing to take advantage of that service.
I personally like openDNS :)
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Re: HOSTS file or DNS?
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2011, 12:25:35 PM »
I'd go for a good DNS service if i were you. There are many out there. I also used to use OpenDNS until i switched to ClearCloud, the reason i switched was because of the added malware protection. You have to pay OpenDNS in order to get malware site protection. You don't have to pay ClearCloud, Comodo or Symantec for that feature so i suggest you check those out.


http://www.avinashtech.com/internet/alternative-global-domain-system/

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Re: HOSTS file or DNS?
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2011, 01:41:17 PM »
You have to pay OpenDNS in order to get malware site protection.
That is not true!

In fact I use OpenDNS Updater
http://www.opendns.com/support/dynamic_ip_windows
« Last Edit: January 21, 2011, 01:43:24 PM by YoKenny »

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Re: HOSTS file or DNS?
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2011, 03:10:07 PM »
You have to pay OpenDNS in order to get malware site protection.
That is not true!

In fact I use OpenDNS Updater
http://www.opendns.com/support/dynamic_ip_windows
Same here.
I've never had to pay for openDNS and I've used it for years.  :)
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Re: HOSTS file or DNS?
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2011, 12:02:54 PM »
You have to pay OpenDNS in order to get malware site protection.
That is not true!

In fact I use OpenDNS Updater
http://www.opendns.com/support/dynamic_ip_windows

Of course it's true, the malware site blocking feature is only available with the OpenDNS Enterprise service and that ain't free.
With the basic OpenDNS service(the free one) you get the phishing protection and botnet protection but NOT malware site protection.

http://www.opendns.com/start/

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Re: HOSTS file or DNS?
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2011, 01:48:09 PM »
Of course it's true, the malware site blocking feature is only available with the OpenDNS Enterprise service and that ain't free.
With the basic OpenDNS service(the free one) you get the phishing protection and botnet protection but NOT malware site protection.
Why would I need malware protection as I run Malawarebytes Anti-Malware (MBAM) with its Website Blocking ???

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Re: HOSTS file or DNS?
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2011, 02:00:57 PM »
Of course it's true, the malware site blocking feature is only available with the OpenDNS Enterprise service and that ain't free.
With the basic OpenDNS service(the free one) you get the phishing protection and botnet protection but NOT malware site protection.
Why would I need malware protection as I run Malawarebytes Anti-Malware (MBAM) with its Website Blocking ???

What a silly reply, quite frankly i don't care what you need, that is not what this topic is about.


@Brandonn2010: You can use this program to measure DNS servers responsiveness(Google DNS is fastest for me closely followed by Norton DNS and OpenDNS): http://www.grc.com/dns/benchmark.htm

Comodo Secure DNS, Norton DNS and ClearCloud DNS are the DNS services that are more focused on security, personally i switched to Norton DNS from ClearCloud as i get better speeds with Norton DNS.

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Re: HOSTS file or DNS?
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2011, 06:42:12 PM »
Clear cloud couldn't serve for many of the websites i tried to visit so switched back to opendns. I use hostsman to keep my hosts updated. I use malware domain list, hphosts ad and track server list, mvps hosts and peter lowe's list.

@ Mike

Hi,

Have you read the lines under the "Information that we collect about you" in this link : http://nortondns.com/privacy.html ?

YoKenny

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Re: HOSTS file or DNS?
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2011, 07:07:53 PM »
@ Mike

Hi,

Have you read the lines under the "Information that we collect about you" in this link : http://nortondns.com/privacy.html ?
I see
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To provide Norton DNS, we partner with Ask.com.
so that is enough to not make me use Norton DNS.

See:
Products with Ask Toolbar
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1. Symantec did not only add Ask.com Search Assistant in its installer for new installations or re-install (if the user downloaded the new installer with Ask.com Search Assistant) but also pushed the Ask.com Search Assistant together as or with a "patch" or "program update" to existing Norton users. No option to remove the Ask.com Search Assistant. They originally enabled Ask.com Search Assistant by default and later decided to disable it by default but again, no option to remove the unnecessary Ask.com Search Assistant.
http://www.calendarofupdates.com/updates/index.php?app=calendar&module=calendar&cal_id=1&do=showevent&event_id=44516

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Re: HOSTS file or DNS?
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2011, 07:49:03 PM »
@Dart.Mikey

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Of course it's true, the malware site blocking feature is only available with the OpenDNS Enterprise service and that ain't free.
With the basic OpenDNS service(the free one) you get the phishing protection and botnet protection but NOT malware site protection.
My experience is that openDNS free does block malware sites, not all but many as i have to disable it in my router to be able to download malware samples  ;)

also in the contorl panel, where you can check the log, there are som filters and one say
FILTER: view -  only requests that where blocked as malware
« Last Edit: January 24, 2011, 04:43:36 PM by Pondus »