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markus0r

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avast finds more than it has to
« on: September 20, 2004, 05:35:22 PM »
good morning/evening!

i just tested a new anti-virus program and so i found avast!4

i have the latest up2date version (version from 17.9.04).

when i set the scan-mode "torough-scan" and "scan within archives" the scanner runs 1hour and 10minutes (!!!) , although i have an AMD 2500+ .

on the log (when the scanner is finished) there stands: "scanned 20,2 GB" although i just have 13Gb's datas on my HDD.
 
another problem is that some folders are scanned 2 times or 3 times..

do you can give me some help why
1) the scanner needs so long
2) why it scanns some folders twice or 3 times?
3) why it writes 20gb instead of 13?

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Re:avast finds more than it has to
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2004, 05:39:55 PM »
before i forget to mention this

i probably got on installing windows xp home the blaster or sasser worm...

and avast doesnt find this worms, maybe they are already gone

but sometimes my cpu runs for 30mins or some hours on 100% usage...

pls urgent help! thx

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Re:avast finds more than it has to
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2004, 06:21:55 PM »
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i have the latest up2date version (version from 17.9.04).
Not up to date. There was a new vps released a bit earlier. Think about 3 hours before you posted this.

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when i set the scan-mode "torough-scan" and "scan within archives" the scanner runs 1hour and 10minutes (!!!) , although i have an AMD 2500+ .
So? Speed is not only depending on a cpu, also what cpu with how many cache, what hd with how many cache, how much mem etc etc etc. Since you set Avast to thorough and enabled archive scanning the time is about normal. There are many, many files to be scanned and Avast needs to unpack the archives, then scan the files inside them, then (if needed) remove the infected file(s) and repack them.

I really see nothing out of the ordinary here. You can speed up the scanning by removing all temp files, inet cache files and such, then defrag, then scan.

Or, after cleaning up your system, you can run a boottime scan. Since almost nothing is loaded, Avast can use about the entire potential of the system.

I suggest you start with installing a firewall, downloading/install ALL security patches/update from MS, and then run a boottime scan.
« Last Edit: September 20, 2004, 06:23:00 PM by Eddy »

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Re:avast finds more than it has to
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2004, 06:31:11 PM »
hmmm, so you think 1hour is normal for 13Gb's to scan? i know that there are lots and lots of files and datas...

hmm, ill update the program when i restart my computer...thx for the hint..

i tested the program...and made a "quick-scan" and "dont-scan-within-arcives" and it needed 15minutes too, (for 13gb datas)..is that normal too?

i already have the servicepack 2 from microsoft (as a firewall)

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Re:avast finds more than it has to
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2004, 06:35:59 PM »
1) the scanner needs so long
Scanning inside of the archives needs to unpack them first - which takes a lot of time.

2) why it scanns some folders twice or 3 times?
Why do you think anything like that happens?

3) why it writes 20gb instead of 13?
As already explained - when you selected the archives to be scanned, their content is scanned (and counted) in addition to the real files. So, the actual amount of scanned data may be much bigger (even much more than 20GB in 13GB of real files).

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Re:avast finds more than it has to
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2004, 06:39:05 PM »
hmmm, so you think 1hour is normal for 13Gb's to scan? i know that there are lots and lots of files and datas...

That's certainly in the right "ballpark".  On my system, a thorough scan of 4 gigs (less the files in use) with archive scanning enabled runs about 13 to 15 minutes depending on how recently I've defragged.
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Re:avast finds more than it has to
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2004, 06:39:43 PM »
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2) why it scanns some folders twice or 3 times?
 
Why do you think anything like that happens?

because i watched that he scanned F:/Songs and them some C:/ datas and so on and then again F:/songs..

dont know, maybe im paranoid :)

what do you think, is 15mins for 13Gb (without scan-archives)  and quick-scan-mode normal?

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Re:avast finds more than it has to
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2004, 06:45:43 PM »
I cannot say anything about the time... it heavily depends on the system (CPU, hard disk), number of files on your disk, type of files, etc.

If you want, you can turn on the creation of the report file in the program settings - and set the OK files to be included there as well. The resulting report will certainly be rather big, but you will see in detail what was scanned (e.g. if anything was scanned twice).

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Re:avast finds more than it has to
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2004, 06:46:14 PM »
If I'm not mistaken (and of course Igor or whoever is welcome to correct me), avast scans disk sectors as nearly consecutively as it can, rather than working from directory listings.  So it's quite common to see it jumping back and forth between folders.
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Re:avast finds more than it has to
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2004, 06:47:47 PM »
Oh, I'm afraid it's really not the case. avast! really browses through the files, not sectors.

Actually, a few people said they noticed avast! scanning the selection twice in the Simple User Interface... but we have never been able to simulate it - so we suspect it was just some kind of misunderstanding.
« Last Edit: September 20, 2004, 06:49:05 PM by igor »

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Re:avast finds more than it has to
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2004, 06:48:18 PM »
Mike, while this sounds like a good idea, avast currently doesn't do anything like this. It follows the folder hierarchy (and fyi I'm not aware of any other AV that would do it differently).
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Re:avast finds more than it has to
« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2004, 07:44:10 PM »
Standard scan without archives is way enough. Scans around 5 minutes on my 200GB Maxtor with 8MB internal cache. 50GB of files. This is very fast and thorough enough to detect all kinds of malware.
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Re:avast finds more than it has to
« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2004, 08:12:50 PM »
Thanks for the clarification, Igor and Vlk.  It's pretty obvious when you run, say, Housecall that it's rigidly following the directory structure, but there seems to be a fair bit of "jumping" with avast so it seemed like a reasonable assumption.

Admittedly with avast it's often impossible to see the whole path that's currently being scanned (at least at 800x600, and possibly depending on which skin), so I just guessed at what I'm seeing.
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Re:avast finds more than it has to
« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2004, 08:32:02 PM »
Well, you are right - the path ellipsis "jumps" often. However, the previous post mentioned C:\data and F:\songs...

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Re:avast finds more than it has to
« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2004, 10:20:09 PM »
Well, you are right - the path ellipsis "jumps" often.

Can the path scroll instead of 'jump'?
Can the font size be changed (or tweaked)?
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