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Re: Windows 8 will ship with MSE...
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2011, 01:55:18 PM »
It is going to be the same as Windows sodding Defender in win7 that you can't uninstall only disable. God I hate that in windows 7. There really has to be a way to get rid of this cr*p completely not just disable it.

The article mentions "consumers are going to be happy about this new addition to Windows" not the savvy ones. Certainly not this one.

I hope they are ready for the resultant litigation in the EU at least.
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Re: Windows 8 will ship with MSE...
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2011, 02:06:39 PM »
1. The article mentions "consumers are going to be happy about this new addition to Windows" not the savvy ones. Certainly not this one.

2. I hope they are ready for the resultant litigation in the EU at least.

1. +1
2. Guess the courts will be quite busy again... ;D
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Re: Windows 8 will ship with MSE...
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2011, 02:19:47 PM »
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One possible downside of including a single antivirus package in with millions of Windows installations is that it could create a security monoculture where the majority of systems are protected by a single application. Attack that one application, and it could be jackpot for the bad guys.
Hmmm... I feel like this.
Besides, I hate to have an uninstallable program in my computer  >:(
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Re: Windows 8 will ship with MSE...
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2011, 03:24:09 PM »
Besides, I hate to have an uninstallable program in my computer  >:(
I hope MSE in win8 is at least uninstallable... :-\

The article mentions "consumers are going to be happy about this new addition to Windows" not the savvy ones. Certainly not this one.
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Re: Windows 8 will ship with MSE...
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2011, 05:40:18 PM »
not there yet out of the box ;D I'm running Win8 dev preview and guess what's the first app I installed ??? >> MSE ;D ... might give a shot to Avast later on.

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Re: Windows 8 will ship with MSE...
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2011, 05:47:26 PM »
here we go...

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Re: Windows 8 will ship with MSE...
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2011, 06:20:08 PM »
I'm interested in it, as I'm not that impressed with win7, I still prefer this XP Pro system. So when I eventually replace this system the next win OS is likely to be on the scene, I want to know what it might bring.

I just don't want to see it with pre-installed cr*p that can't be uninstalled.
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Re: Windows 8 will ship with MSE...
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2011, 06:21:39 PM »
guys I'm disgusted, back on Windows 7 ... I just hate Windows 8 interface, I hate it ;D

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Re: Windows 8 will ship with MSE...
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2011, 08:33:01 PM »

I just don't want to see it with pre-installed cr*p that can't be uninstalled.

I saw the Win 8 presentation. The Antimalware/Antivirus was mentioned and it was said that "the user may stick to that or use any other 3rd party product" (not 100% literally quoted).
So I don't think it will be uninstallable.

As for the WIN 8 GUI - well, I'm not very fond of it right now, but I guess we all got to get used to the fact that this is the direction things will develop with any major OS.

Logos, maybe you're just growing too old for new stuff...  ;D
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Re: Windows 8 will ship with MSE...
« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2011, 08:45:48 PM »
That's the problem when we are talking about what is essentially a resident anti-virus, as we are all aware disabling is often not enough.
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Re: Windows 8 will ship with MSE...
« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2011, 08:48:55 PM »
@zyndstoff  ;D ... to be honest I find the Metro UI absolutely ugly. I already found it ugly on videos and during the keynote yesterday, and, well, after using it a couple of hours today, this is just confirmed: it's ugly.

 Oh yeah, last but not least, using the mouse in metro view is just... terribly unpleasant. The tiles are so obviously meant for touch screens, and who's ready to use a touch screen on a desktop computer... ??? can you imagine constantly stretching your arm back and forth to reach a vertical screen... instead of just moving the mouse on a pad? MS is committing suicide I tell you. There are already many system improvements that I've noticed, the system is noticeably faster than Win7 (yeah that's possible lol), but that won't justify the switch. A PC is not a tablet.

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Re: Windows 8 will ship with MSE...
« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2011, 08:53:51 PM »
I agree, Logos, that it is absolutely annoying to use this UI on a desktop..

But I don't think it's MS suicide - it's simply the death verdict for desktop PCs as we used to know them. That's what I believe.
It will be Slates and Tablets, SoC and ARM, mobile devices in the future.
In 5 years time it will be hard to buy a desktop PC with vertical screen.
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Re: Windows 8 will ship with MSE...
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2011, 08:56:18 PM »

In 5 years time it will be hard to buy a desktop PC with vertical screen.

exactly, that's the goal, getting rid of PCs the way we know them.