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Offline FlyingRobot

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Re: Avast 7 worse than a virus!
« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2012, 01:17:16 AM »
If there are bugs, design flaws, whatever by all means fix those.  However, what rationale if any was given for removing the ask option?  I've been looking back through pk's messages trying to find where he supposedly said the ask option will be removed.  Haven't found it.  Lil help?

Edit: I did see this:

"Autosandbox doesn't have such option - and it won't have in next version, because this component should be simple (no complex settings, simple dialogs, etc). Autosandbox was improved in v7 - suspicious app is automatically executed in the sandbox, we analyze its behavior in the background and then we show you results. We had a discussion if there should be a link to report file, but such report file would be interested only for experts, not for the average users. "

from http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=93281.msg742723#msg742723

Which I suppose could be read that in v7 a suspicious app is automatically executed in the sandbox regardless of the ask setting.

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Re: Avast 7 worse than a virus!
« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2012, 01:33:32 AM »
It was VLK who said it not PK, my mistake.

http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=93866.msg747953#msg747953

What he said about the planned behavior concerns me since I have a number of legacy apps that get detected by the autosandbox even though they are perfectly safe. There needs to be some way retained to be able to run things like that normally without getting sandboxed or analyzed again.
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Re: Avast 7 worse than a virus!
« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2012, 01:39:48 AM »
you gotta love the tiltle of this thread ;D

What's funny is that some of the thread titles were being quite angry lately, calling names rather than asking for help. Geez. And I thought I was the certified backside on the net.

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Re: Avast 7 worse than a virus!
« Reply #18 on: February 27, 2012, 01:46:08 AM »
I don't think "avast 7 is worse than a virus", but I agree with this statement:

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Avast used to be my preferred virus killer but you guys are going fast to be the next Norton: an overkill of complex features and a million configurable options when I want absolutely nothing to do with whatever is required to stop a virus and other nasty situations.

Becoming 'bloat ware' is why I left McAfee about 5 years ago.  I stayed with McAfee VS-7 as it was the last good version they had.  Then when they pulled the plug on support, I came to avast.  Looks like I'll stick with ver 6 until they drop support of it.
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Re: Avast 7 worse than a virus!
« Reply #19 on: February 27, 2012, 02:01:57 AM »
Try this again. My reply was not posted since there were two replies before I clicked the Post button; little error that needs to be corrected in the forum. Gonna copy what I am entering so I can simply paste if it happens again

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I agree. Have always been pleased with Avast which has worked remarkably well. However, after upgrading to 7, a graphics program I have used for years was "suspected" and so opened automatically in the sandbox.  This occurred 3 times which I canceled each time. The 4th time when I opened the graphics program it was not opened in the sand box but now I cannot open any image into the graphics program; including a jpg.

I regret upgrading to 7 and hope I can find the earlier version to re-install. I feel like a new M$ OS was installed and new programs need to be replaced by purchasing them and waiting for drivers to be made for devices and software that worked just fine before a supposed improved upgrade.

Not happy. Now I have to learn what went wrong, probably un-install the graphics program and re-install it, but not until after I install an eralier version of avast.

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Re: Avast 7 worse than a virus!
« Reply #20 on: February 27, 2012, 02:07:15 AM »
Becoming 'bloat ware' is why I left McAfee about 5 years ago.

Does anyone still use McAfee? Last I heard of it, it utterly destroyed the windows installation of almost every single one of their clients.

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Re: Avast 7 worse than a virus!
« Reply #21 on: February 27, 2012, 02:29:46 AM »
Becoming 'bloat ware' is why I left McAfee about 5 years ago.

Does anyone still use McAfee? Last I heard of it, it utterly destroyed the windows installation of almost every single one of their clients.

Like I said, I left McAfee about 5 years ago and I was running VirusScan-7... which was about 2 yrs old then, but still supported. It was the last good version IMHO.  I was a moderator for their help forum for about 4 years.  Another forum mod suggested we look at avast.  That's why I came here... or to avast.
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Re: Avast 7 worse than a virus!
« Reply #22 on: February 27, 2012, 03:41:49 AM »
I agree, Avast 7 has really turned me off.
Unless it's fixed right, I'm done when my subscription is up.
What an over bloated hunk of junk, and it was so good until 7 came along.

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Re: Avast 7 worse than a virus!
« Reply #23 on: February 27, 2012, 04:23:41 AM »
Thanks Bob.

Uninstalled version 7, cleaned my registry and re-installed 6.0.1367.0. Turned off auto sandbox and automatic program update.

Re-installed graphics program since sandbox deleted some required associated files. Now I can open a file in the graphics program without sandbox starting automatically.

Gonna start looking for a new AVP since I suspect,  from my experience, it will be just a matter of time before virus definitions will not be able to be updated unless the latest program version is downloaded and installed.

What was a great program is now becoming 2nd rate. The auto sandbox should be able to be turned off in the free version just like any of the shields. Its thats simple.

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Re: Avast 7 worse than a virus!
« Reply #24 on: February 27, 2012, 07:52:13 AM »
It was VLK who said it not PK, my mistake.

http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=93866.msg747953#msg747953

Thanks for the link to his comment, which allowed me to read yours and a couple of others. 

What he said about the planned behavior concerns me since I have a number of legacy apps that get detected by the autosandbox even though they are perfectly safe. There needs to be some way retained to be able to run things like that normally without getting sandboxed or analyzed again.

I take it you've tried and can't pull that off via the autosandbox exclusion list (?)

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Re: Avast 7 worse than a virus!
« Reply #25 on: February 27, 2012, 08:03:53 AM »
Yes I can but it's much more of a hassle doing so than it was before with v6.   I can see it getting harder if what VLK said becomes a reality.
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Re: Avast 7 worse than a virus!
« Reply #26 on: February 27, 2012, 11:19:28 AM »
Thanks Bob.

Uninstalled version 7, cleaned my registry and re-installed 6.0.1367.0. Turned off auto sandbox and automatic program update.

Re-installed graphics program since sandbox deleted some required associated files. Now I can open a file in the graphics program without sandbox starting automatically.

Gonna start looking for a new AVP since I suspect,  from my experience, it will be just a matter of time before virus definitions will not be able to be updated unless the latest program version is downloaded and installed.

What was a great program is now becoming 2nd rate. The auto sandbox should be able to be turned off in the free version just like any of the shields. Its thats simple.
You're welcome but Installing version 6 isn't something I'm even thinking about. There are so many improvements in avast!7 that I would never go back.
There may be a few bugs that still have to be worked out but that will all happen sooner than later. :)

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Re: Avast 7 worse than a virus!
« Reply #27 on: February 27, 2012, 03:02:07 PM »

Thanks for all the replies and response. By the amount of posts on V7 I'm sure Avast will sort this out as soon as possible..

For the record: Disabling the Sandbox did not work! It still reports, alerts and crashes - every single time. Even disabling ALL realtime shiels, sandbox, adding exclusion paths and executables did not seem to make a single difference - hence the huge amount of time spend (wasted) on this subject.

And that explains my (I'll admit: a perhaps somewhat) aggressive choice of topic title: spending 5 hours + on getting a virus 'killer' to work - is more time than it costs me to fully re-install a workstation after it has been trashed by a virus ;)

Anyway, I hope Avast learned a lesson on this one - as a developer, I know we all make mistakes. But Avast should realize (all the way to the top!) that you can only break the trust with a user ONCE...

Good luck to all of us...

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Re: Avast 7 worse than a virus!
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