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Title: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on August 08, 2007, 08:56:03 PM
http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/08/07/imac/index.php

http://www.apple.com/imac

Once again Jonathan Ive (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Ive) shows off his design skills
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: gdiloren on August 08, 2007, 09:11:08 PM
 :DI always dreamt of a Mac. But it's more expensive and it is more for the designers and creators. I think it's more secure against viruses and worms though... ???
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: RejZoR on August 08, 2007, 10:47:54 PM
Graphic cards are wack. Really only for video editing...
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on August 09, 2007, 04:15:13 AM
Take a Dell (or any PC) and add a 20 inch display give it a 2Ghz Core 2 Duo chip and 1GB of RAM and a good graphics card and not some integrated chip and you can see how well these new machines compare price-wise to all other Computer manufactures

I configured a Dell with those specs for about $875 but the dell did not include FIrewire 400 or Firewire 800 or integrated 802.11n and bluetooth or a built in webcamera

Graphic cards are wack. Really only for video editing...
Actually Apple is including more powerful cards in preparation for Leopard which has updated API to allow programmers to easily offload tasks to the GPU. (yea this is for Video editing but any App can take advantage of the GPU with the new API)  Plus with the recent announcement of EA providing more games for the Mac it will help with the Game FPS
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: OrangeCrate on August 09, 2007, 11:13:23 AM
Wow, they just keep getting better and better. Well done.

 :)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: justin1278 on August 09, 2007, 05:39:52 PM
The new macs are impressive, but I can't afford one right now :-\
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on August 12, 2007, 05:55:03 PM
Hi Kyle and thanks for this info (noticed it the same minute you posted it, but had no time to reply till now  :'( )

Anyway... this is the thing I've been waiting for. The price is unbelievable as well. I love it ! My wife fell in love as soon as we've checked the Apple site and that beautiful machine image popped out.

Apple, here I come !
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on August 12, 2007, 07:45:32 PM
Hi Kyle and thanks for this info (noticed it the same minute you posted it, but had no time to reply till now  :'( )

Anyway... this is the thing I've been waiting for. The price is unbelievable as well. I love it ! My wife fell in love as soon as we've checked the Apple site and that beautiful machine image popped out.

Apple, here I come !

Finally Sasha gets a Mac :D
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: bob3160 on August 12, 2007, 11:22:24 PM
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Finally Sasha gets a Mac  :D
Kyle that's because he gets to write it off as a business expense.  ;D
We're not all that lucky.
Enjoy it Sasha  :)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: drhayden1 on August 12, 2007, 11:47:05 PM
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he gets to write it off as a business expense
same here and am due for a new work mac ;D
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: shgoh on August 17, 2007, 06:48:29 AM
Cool, I'm thinking of changing to iMac very soon, but before that happens, I have some concerns...

1. I only uses Windows in my life till now, will I be able to adapt easily to Mac OS X?

2. My main activities are web surfing, music, videos, and office applications etc. I know that I can use Safari for web, iTunes for music, and iWork for office. What can I use for video playback? Quicktime? Does it play most formats such as mpg, avi, rmvb?

3. Which avast! antivirus is suitable for Mac OS X? 8)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on August 17, 2007, 02:15:27 PM
1. I only uses Windows in my life till now, will I be able to adapt easily to Mac OS X?

Its very easy to adjust. Hardest thing is there is not a start menu.

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2. My main activities are web surfing, music, videos, and office applications etc. I know that I can use Safari for web, iTunes for music, and iWork for office. What can I use for video playback? Quicktime? Does it play most formats such as mpg, avi, rmvb?

Quicktime handles all Video on the Mac by default. But just like windows you can download VLC or Mplayer if quicktime does not support your format. However the Mac version of QuickTime supports more than the Windows version does.

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3. Which avast! antivirus is suitable for Mac OS X? Cool

Since there are no widespread Viruses for the mac yet most Mac users dont run Antivirus software. However Im sure you know ALWIL has a beta version out of avast for Mac if you really think you need it
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on August 17, 2007, 02:19:19 PM
Cool, I'm thinking of changing to iMac very soon, but before that happens, I have some concerns...

1. I only uses Windows in my life till now, will I be able to adapt easily to Mac OS X?

2. My main activities are web surfing, music, videos, and office applications etc. I know that I can use Safari for web, iTunes for music, and iWork for office. What can I use for video playback? Quicktime? Does it play most formats such as mpg, avi, rmvb?

3. Which avast! antivirus is suitable for Mac OS X? 8)

And best of all, you can even run Windows XP on your Mac. That's exactly what I'm going to do in case I need to some work in some application that still doesn't exist for Mac. Possibilities are endless !
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on August 17, 2007, 02:35:23 PM
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My main activities are web surfing, music, videos, and office applications etc. I know that I can use Safari for web, iTunes for music, and iWork for office. What can I use for video playback? Quicktime? Does it play most formats such as mpg, avi, rmvb?

Almost forgot... There is Microsoft Office for Mac too.

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And best of all, you can even run Windows XP on your Mac. That's exactly what I'm going to do in case I need to some work in some application that still doesn't exist for Mac. Possibilities are endless !

Just remember BootCamp will not be free for Tiger users, So if you want to Dual boot wait for leopard.

On the other Hand if you want to run XP in virtualization then you still have to buy VMware or Parallels even if you have leopard
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on August 17, 2007, 03:16:29 PM
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My main activities are web surfing, music, videos, and office applications etc. I know that I can use Safari for web, iTunes for music, and iWork for office. What can I use for video playback? Quicktime? Does it play most formats such as mpg, avi, rmvb?

Almost forgot... There is Microsoft Office for Mac too.

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And best of all, you can even run Windows XP on your Mac. That's exactly what I'm going to do in case I need to some work in some application that still doesn't exist for Mac. Possibilities are endless !

Just remember BootCamp will not be free for Tiger users, So if you want to Dual boot wait for leopard.

On the other Hand if you want to run XP in virtualization then you still have to buy VMware or Parallels even if you have leopard

VMware is out of question that's for sure. BootCamp, free or not I don't care. I will have it. Leopard ? I will have it too... just take a look at the price of Vista Ultimate and again take a look back at Leopard price and you'll see why I'm saying that... I spend that money on half week groceries, so it's really nothing to be concerned about.
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: drhayden1 on August 17, 2007, 05:34:06 PM
First Apple Ad (1976) - The Apple-1 for Only $666
A newspaper ad from 1976 for the original Apple-1 computer, oddly priced at $ 666.66.
try this one Sasha ::) ;D
(http://i11.tinypic.com/6aty1qr.jpg)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: Lisandro on August 17, 2007, 09:00:16 PM
VMware is out of question that's for sure.
Why? Don't you think it's a very good application for testing into a virtual environment?
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on August 17, 2007, 09:37:29 PM
Although I never tried it I've heard that it's pretty slow. I've seen how BootCamp works here on my buddy's MacBookPro and all I can say I was amazed.
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: Lisandro on August 17, 2007, 10:32:46 PM
Although I never tried it I've heard that it's pretty slow.
It really depends on your processor and RAM.
It could be comfortable in a powerful computer.
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on August 18, 2007, 12:13:18 AM
Both VMware and Parallels work great for things like Office, web and email. but there is a performance hit. Using BootCamp is Windows at native speed
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: Lisandro on August 18, 2007, 02:47:03 AM
Both VMware and Parallels work great for things like Office, web and email. but there is a performance hit. Using BootCamp is Windows at native speed
Unfortunately, we don't have the opposite... we're not allowed to run Mac in a virtual environment of Windows.
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: bob3160 on August 18, 2007, 03:31:02 AM
Both VMware and Parallels work great for things like Office, web and email. but there is a performance hit. Using BootCamp is Windows at native speed
Unfortunately, we don't have the opposite... we're not allowed to run Mac in a virtual environment of Windows.
I've been complaining about this for quite a while......
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on August 19, 2007, 05:38:56 AM
I'm happy to say... it's finally mine ! All mine, LOL!

Kyle, I told you I'm going to do it and I did it  ;)

It's 20-inch iMac (MA877LL), 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 320 Gb HD + (EDIT) 1/2 TB LaCie External one (USB 2.0)

Few pics...

(http://img3.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/th.ba5b2e399d.jpg) (http://img3.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?ba5b2e399d.jpg)

(http://img3.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/th.b0d412c75f.jpg) (http://img3.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?b0d412c75f.jpg)

Super ultra thing all new Apple keyboard:
(http://img3.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/th.1905f66f0a.jpg) (http://img3.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?1905f66f0a.jpg)

Keyboard close-up:
(http://img3.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/th.6e5ec87626.jpg) (http://img3.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?6e5ec87626.jpg)

Forces united - Apple new iMac and PC...
(http://img3.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/th.529bf71bf3.jpg) (http://img3.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?529bf71bf3.jpg)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on August 19, 2007, 05:53:09 AM
Both VMware and Parallels work great for things like Office, web and email. but there is a performance hit. Using BootCamp is Windows at native speed
Unfortunately, we don't have the opposite... we're not allowed to run Mac in a virtual environment of Windows.
I've been complaining about this for quite a while......

Yep and to get OS X you will have to do what Sasha did, Buy a Mac!!!


Congrats Sasha im always around to answer any questions you may have
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on August 19, 2007, 06:03:11 AM
Thanks Kyle, you have no idea how excited I am. I am just too afraid at this point I will have to wait in line to be able to do some work on my new iMac... my wife is crazy about it and I simply had to throw her a candy in our bedroom, so I can steal this chair and do some testing...  ;D

And OMG... the smell of this new computer is something unbelievable, something out of this world. I completely forgot what a wonderful feeling that is. Last time I felt it was when I got my first Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K. Not a single PC box smelled this good... "burning chips" smell. Oh this indeed brings some wonderful memories back...
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on August 19, 2007, 06:07:59 AM
Yes I remember it well from many macs in the past
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on August 19, 2007, 06:39:57 AM
Nice avatar Sasha, I think Ill Steal it  ;D
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: roro on August 19, 2007, 10:04:09 AM
Don't know if this is proper place to ask, but I have a Gateway computer with a Gateway Windows XP operating system disk.  If I got a MAC when Leopard comes out, would I be able to use my Gateway Windows XP disk to install Windows into BootCamp?
I have been thinking about going back to a Mac for years.  In fact my first computer was a Apple Macintosh 512K.  I switched to PC because of the lack of Applications at the time I upgraded.  Now I have all these Microsoft compatible apps and was afraid that I would lose the use of them.  BootCamp is a wonderful idea!

Ro Ro ;D
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: shgoh on August 20, 2007, 06:13:17 AM
Thanks for clarifying Sasha & Mac...I think an iMac will be on its way soon! ;D
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on August 20, 2007, 10:29:08 PM
Don't know if this is proper place to ask, but I have a Gateway computer with a Gateway Windows XP operating system disk.  If I got a MAC when Leopard comes out, would I be able to use my Gateway Windows XP disk to install Windows into BootCamp?
I have been thinking about going back to a Mac for years.  In fact my first computer was a Apple Macintosh 512K.  I switched to PC because of the lack of Applications at the time I upgraded.  Now I have all these Microsoft compatible apps and was afraid that I would lose the use of them.  BootCamp is a wonderful idea!

Ro Ro ;D

From Apples site:

You’ll need XP Home or Professional with Service Pack 2, WIndows Vista Home Basic, Home Premium, Business, or Ultimate. (No upgrade or multi-disc versions).

So I assume as long as it is a actual Windows Installation Disc (and not just a restore image) and it includes SP2 it would work
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on August 20, 2007, 10:30:50 PM
Thanks for clarifying Sasha & Mac...I think an iMac will be on its way soon! ;D

Dang two converts with one thread!! A new world record :D
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on August 21, 2007, 01:21:42 AM
Well, I wouldn't call myself "converted", at least not yet  ;D I use best of both worlds, and even though it looks incredibly large, Mac is still minority in my house... there are two PCs, one with XP and another one with Vista  ;D

But joke aside... I am sure if MS don't do anything serious to fix those huge issues with Vista, especially with these Apple prices... many people will switch without a second thought... add to all this that they can run their Windows natively in case they need to or simply because they feel nostalgic... well, there you go.
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on August 21, 2007, 04:56:52 AM
Well, I wouldn't call myself "converted", at least not yet  ;D I use best of both worlds, and even though it looks incredibly large, Mac is still minority in my house... there are two PCs, one with XP and another one with Vista  ;D

But joke aside... I am sure if MS don't do anything serious to fix those huge issues with Vista, especially with these Apple prices... many people will switch without a second thought... add to all this that they can run their Windows natively in case they need to or simply because they feel nostalgic... well, there you go.


You were a Windows only person that now Also uses a Mac. Close enough for me. Once people TRY a mac the mac will finish them off. its highly addicting :D

Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on August 21, 2007, 05:55:27 AM
Tell me about it !  ;D  ;D  ;D Oh my God, this iLife 08 is incredible. I am not going to leave my apartment ever again  ;D Oh well, till tomorrow morning when I have to go to my studio... but the good thing is - we use PCs and Macs at work. Macs are some kind of standard when it comes to web design/multimedia/video editing/printing industry... and that's exactly what we're doing.  ;D
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: roro on August 21, 2007, 09:48:03 AM
Mac,
I have a full installation disk for XP Home SP 1 from both Gateway and Averatec.  I also have a CD on which I downloaded SP 2.  Both disks say for installation only from their respective PC's.  Do you think it would still be possible to use them in BootCamp.

Ro Ro
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on August 21, 2007, 01:20:46 PM
Mac,
I have a full installation disk for XP Home SP 1 from both Gateway and Averatec.  I also have a CD on which I downloaded SP 2.  Both disks say for installation only from their respective PC's.  Do you think it would still be possible to use them in BootCamp.

Ro Ro

No, there is no way you'll be able to use those disks. Those are like it says "for installation only on those branded PCs". Those disks are totally unusable if you want to install them somewhere else... even on some self-built PC or some other branded PC. Unfortunately, they work only on those branded computers for which they were compiled in the first place. I call them rescue disks, not even real installation disks...  :-\

To install windows on Mac, you'll need real Windows installation disk (usually golden or silver)... something like this:
(http://images.tigerdirect.com/skuimages/large/M17-7502-main-sp.jpg)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: DavidR on August 21, 2007, 02:42:13 PM
Mac,
I have a full installation disk for XP Home SP 1 from both Gateway and Averatec.  I also have a CD on which I downloaded SP 2.  Both disks say for installation only from their respective PC's.  Do you think it would still be possible to use them in BootCamp.

Based on what has been previously said, you would need a 'retail' version of Windows XP (SP2) more expensive, not an upgrade or OEM version.
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: roro on August 22, 2007, 08:54:11 AM
Thank you Sash and DavidR.  That is was I was concerned about. 

I found an XP Home Edition full disk online for $91.99.  Maybe next year, when I upgrade, I will get a MAC desktop.  By that time if it is still around, the XP disk may be even less expensive and worthwhile to buy.  Or, maybe Vista will have improved enough for me to think about it instead.

Ro Ro :D :D
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: DavidR on August 22, 2007, 03:06:44 PM
Yes, hopefully it will drop in price, but I'm not so sure because there is some resistance to Vista so XP so that may be holding prices up because of demand. By that time the Vista SP1 should hopefully have been released and you can see if it resolves some of the issues with the current version. You should be able to read the reviewers comments, etc.

Even more hopefully XP SP3 will be released, they really are putting that on a back burner, I feel in the hope people will jump to vista.
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on August 22, 2007, 10:33:01 PM
I never thought I would say anything like this in my wildest dreams, but here I go... Vista looked so nice to me at first, because cosmetic point of view IS important like to admit it or not... regardless, the fact is that you want pretty environment, period.

But when I think twice about everything... what do you get with Vista really ? Nothing, one big nothing. A transparency effect on window borders which BTW looks really nice and makes your desktop looks somehow not that clogged anymore... windows really don't look that "heavy" anymore, but that's about it... they screamed like crazy about some effects but what do you really get? Flip 3D that actually does nothing effective and it gets boring after you see it for the 10th time... I mean, just take a look at all those effects Beryl/Compiz, now Compiz Fusion does for Linux, or take a look at OSX Tiger and soon Leopard... those are some useful features that actually helps you to be more productive and do some things a way faster. Best of all, those are not just cosmetic features, but something unbelievable helpful. Best of all, they don't require such a powerful machines like Vista does. Full of bugs at this stage, it simply doesn't allow me to do my job properly... it's on my way, and when something is on my way, I have to move it or if it's not an option, I have to turn away and find some other solution... which I did... I still hope they will do something finally to make this Vista running nice, but at this point I am sorry to say, this OS is a total failure. Not talking about some normal every day activities, browsing the internet, playing some simple game, or watching the DivX movie... just try to open few large applications like Photoshop, Fireworks, Illustrator and try to work with large files for some time... it looks like cache memory is filling up and nothing's being released... it gets worse and worse... you have to restart those applications to get back on horse. Really annoying... and don't even want to mention computers specs because those are a way above normal Vista requirements... plus 2 Gb of DDRAM2... c'mon.
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: shgoh on August 23, 2007, 04:00:47 AM
Just a quick question, is AppleCare a necessity?
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on August 23, 2007, 04:41:42 AM
No it is not, although many will try to sell it to you when you go to buy your Mac. I went directly to the largest Apple store in Toronto and the guy who helped me with explanations about all models, plus another guy who works as cashier, they both said that AppleCare is simply a POS (Piece of S**t) - their words, not mine. Too much money spent comparing what you get. I am sure Kyle will not agree with me on this one, but that's just because he works for Apple and I am just a simple customer  ;D

Basic warranty covers pretty long period of 1 year, plus during the first 14 days you can even return your computer in case you are not satisfied. You'll get your money back in case box is still unopened. In case you already took out everything and you still decide to return it, there could be a fee of 190 and something dollars (I believe they call it stocking fee).
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on August 26, 2007, 06:16:31 AM
Just a quick question, is AppleCare a necessity?
No it is not, although many will try to sell it to you when you go to buy your Mac. I went directly to the largest Apple store in Toronto and the guy who helped me with explanations about all models, plus another guy who works as cashier, they both said that AppleCare is simply a POS (Piece of S**t) - their words, not mine. Too much money spent comparing what you get. I am sure Kyle will not agree with me on this one, but that's just because he works for Apple and I am just a simple customer  ;D

I let the Customer Decide. But here is an Example (using the iMac as thats what Sasha bought)

Apple care is $169 for the iMac. Not much compared to the $1199(or higher depending on Model) you paid. Just think If you need service just ONCE out of the 1 year warranty AppleCare pays for itself. Heck the LCD panel in the new iMacs is over $400 to have replaced if you are out of the one year warranty

Now having said that I would not buy AppleCare for any of the iPods or the iPhone in that case its just not worth it.


And Another thought. Unlike other Computer Manufactures, Apple does not require you to buy AppleCare at the time of purchase. You can buy it anytime within one year of the Purchase date.

My Personal Opinion: I Buy it on All of My Macs. So far the only problem I have had is My iBooks battery only held about a 30 min charge after 2 years (Li-Ion batteries wear out ya know), since the battery is covered I got a free replacement battery.



Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on August 26, 2007, 06:28:21 AM
Yes, yes I completely understand your point Kyle. And it's always good to have it, but I was just saying it is not a must, you don't have to take it if you don't want it. They won't force you.

I paid $1599 CAD for my 20-inch 2.4 GHz model, plus taxes (GST/HST, PST/QST) total came to $1822 CAD. AppleCare would be a little more expensive than for basic model I guess...
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on August 26, 2007, 06:36:01 AM
No its not a Must. And once again You can buy it anytime within one year of the Purchase date of your Mac if you have a change of heart.

Sasha,
AppleCare for ANY iMac model is $169 (US Dollars, dont know about Canada)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on August 26, 2007, 06:37:50 AM
Oh OK, I thought it's calculated by some kind of percent or something...
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on August 26, 2007, 06:43:29 AM
No its By Model. Example: Mac Mini $149, iMac $169, Mac Pro $249 etc.
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: shgoh on August 28, 2007, 07:43:49 AM
Thanks Sasha and Mac for all your advices.  :)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: Sesame on August 28, 2007, 11:05:14 AM
I am inclined to buy iMac when Leopard version is released.  I have been cautious of changing OS but, Boot Camp technology matured, I think it may be good time to have both worlds side by side.
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on August 28, 2007, 01:07:45 PM
Thanks Sasha and Mac for all your advices.  :)

No problem my friend, anytime ! I'm glad if I can help with some info... at least, our Kyle is not alone anymore in these forums  ;D

I am inclined to buy iMac when Leopard version is released.  I have been cautious of changing OS but, Boot Camp technology matured, I think it may be good time to have both worlds side by side.

Yes, good move ! You won't regret ever... well, I know I didn't. I am so happy and this whole thing made my "computer life" even more interesting. BootCamp is certainly something that brought the best of both worlds to Mac... one core for running OS X and another one for Windows and everything runs unbelievable smooth.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: shgoh on September 07, 2007, 03:15:16 AM
I heard that Leopard is due to release some time in Oct...so perhaps I should wait till then before I place an iMac order?
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on September 07, 2007, 12:45:31 PM
That's true, but that alone did not stop me from buying my new iMac. I simply couldn't wait, and the difference in price is nothing. I've heard that Leopard will be priced no more than $130. For such an OS, I have to say that's nothing...

Of course if you still want to save some bucks, it's better if you can wait...
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on September 07, 2007, 02:57:43 PM
That's true, but that alone did not stop me from buying my new iMac. I simply couldn't wait, and the difference in price is nothing. I've heard that Leopard will be priced no more than $130. For such an OS, I have to say that's nothing...

Of course if you still want to save some bucks, it's better if you can wait...
$129 to be exact
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: shgoh on October 09, 2007, 12:54:40 AM
When exactly leopard is releasing??? I'm losing hair and sleep waiting for it!  ;D

Can't wait to order an iMac!
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on October 09, 2007, 04:12:26 PM
No one can tell exactly... the only thing that's certain is that it comes out in October... it could be October 11th, and it could easily end up as October 31st (yuck, who's gonna wait that long  ;D )
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: justin1278 on October 10, 2007, 12:34:54 AM
Here's my random guess of the day ;D

OS X Leopard will be released on Friday, October 26th

So let's wait and see if I'm right :)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: DavidR on October 10, 2007, 01:15:03 AM
You didn't give a year ;D hedging your bets ;D ;D
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on October 10, 2007, 06:45:00 PM
I'd say - October 31st 2007  :-\
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: justin1278 on October 11, 2007, 12:35:35 AM
You didn't give a year ;D hedging your bets ;D ;D

Aww you caught me >:(

Oh well, fine October 26, 2007 ;D

I'd say - October 31st 2007  :-\
I don't think it will be the 31st the 26th is on a Friday, end of the week which means more potential sales, where as the 31st is on a Wednesday, which could mean less sales in the beginning since it is the middle of the week.
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on October 11, 2007, 01:49:32 AM
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...the 31st is on a Wednesday, which could mean less sales in the beginning since it is the middle of the week.

Exactly... closer to the payday  ;) It doesn't play any difference when I want to buy something, but I'm thinking globally. If I saved that money for that particular product, and I left it on the side, regardless of what date is, it's going to be mine  ;D
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: justin1278 on October 11, 2007, 02:17:28 AM
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...
...the 31st is on a Wednesday, which could mean less sales in the beginning since it is the middle of the week.

Exactly... closer to the payday  ;) It doesn't play any difference when I want to buy something, but I'm thinking globally. If I saved that money for that particular product, and I left it on the side, regardless of what date is, it's going to be mine  ;D

Really... and how long has this been happening you say ;D
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on October 11, 2007, 03:34:38 AM
Last three years... I wasn't able to make money on what I do in Croatia, but people in Canada certainly know how to appreciate my work. I love this continent, I just love it !  ;D
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on October 11, 2007, 03:56:20 AM
Here's my random guess of the day ;D

OS X Leopard will be released on Friday, October 26th

So let's wait and see if I'm right :)

All the Mac rumor sites Agree with you on it being the 26th
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: justin1278 on October 11, 2007, 03:58:41 AM
Here's my random guess of the day ;D

OS X Leopard will be released on Friday, October 26th

So let's wait and see if I'm right :)

All the Mac rumor sites Agree with you on it being the 26th

Really :o I honestly just took a wild guess, that's a bit scary ???... Anyways I guess we will see if I and the rumor sites are correct.
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on October 11, 2007, 04:14:00 AM
All the Mac rumor sites Agree with you on it being the 26th

Hehe, maybe after all the 26th wasn't just a wild guess...  ;D Any of your relatives working at Apple Justin ?  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on October 11, 2007, 04:43:31 AM
All the Mac rumor sites Agree with you on it being the 26th

Hehe, maybe after all the 26th wasn't just a wild guess...  ;D Any of your relatives working at Apple Justin ?  ;D  ;D  ;D

 ;D Well he would have to be involved in the development or marketing in some way because other than them no one knows. There are lots of times a new product is annouced and the customers know about it before the Retail people do, Apple is just that tight-lipped
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: justin1278 on October 11, 2007, 09:17:05 PM
All the Mac rumor sites Agree with you on it being the 26th

Hehe, maybe after all the 26th wasn't just a wild guess...  ;D Any of your relatives working at Apple Justin ?  ;D  ;D  ;D

In all honesty it was a wild guess, no idea how that happened lol.
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on October 16, 2007, 06:33:15 PM
Its official now. Apple posted on their site today Leopard will go on sale Friday October 26th at 6;00 PM  8)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: bob3160 on October 16, 2007, 06:50:44 PM
Its official now. Apple posted on their site today Leopard will go on sale Friday October 26th at 6;00 PM  8)
Kyle,
The release date has been official since Oct. 9th just take a look:
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=29799.msg256003#msg256003 (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=29799.msg256003#msg256003)
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: justin1278 on October 17, 2007, 12:56:26 AM
Wow, just got the e-mail today, and I couldn't believe it, I was right ;D
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: shgoh on October 17, 2007, 12:14:38 PM
Seems like the new iMac is not going to couple with Mac OS X Leopard till next year! That's why Apple has that Leopard Up-to-Date Program! :(

Anyway I've placed an order, but it's gonna take 2-3 weeks! ???
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on October 17, 2007, 02:33:33 PM
Seems like the new iMac is not going to couple with Mac OS X Leopard till next year! That's why Apple has that Leopard Up-to-Date Program! :(

Anyway I've placed an order, but it's gonna take 2-3 weeks! ???

The Leopard up-to-date program lasts until next year because there are lots of units that still have tiger on them in the stores. Anyone who buys one of those Macs will want leopard hence the program.

What did you order thats going to take that long?
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on October 17, 2007, 03:41:46 PM
I knew Leopard is coming out sometime in October, but I simply couldn't wait  ;D

Even though Leopard price is not high at all, I still feel like Apple could be a little more flexible... I mean, I paid for my new iMac (Tiger installed), purchased it mid August... still, only if you bought your unit on October 1st or after, you are eligible for totally inexpensive upgrade. This way, I have to pay full price and my Mac is still hot  ;D  Not like I'm complaining, just a thought.  :)

C'mon Apple ! Reward us Windows "converts" !  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: shgoh on October 18, 2007, 12:18:03 AM
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       Part Number:   Z0E3
       Product Name:    iMac, 20-inch, 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
       Options:
                     2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
                     2GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM - 2x1GB
                     320GB Serial ATA Drive
                     SuperDrive 8x (DVD+R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
                     Apple wireless Mighty Mouse
                     Apple Wireless Keyboard + Mac OS X
                     Country Kit
       Unit Amount (ex GST):    A$2,055.27
       Quantity:      1
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       When will my product be shipped?
               Allow 2-3 weeks to ship
               Delivery within 2-5 bus. days (after shipment).

ORDER SUBTOTAL: A$2,055.27
GST AMOUNT: A$205.53

ORDER TOTAL: A$2,260.80
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on October 18, 2007, 01:13:39 AM
Huh... what's the exchange rate over there ? Is this same item more expensive in your country or is it just an exchange rate issue ?I paid $1,822.86 CAD (after taxes)

This is my receipt:

(http://www.imgplace.com/directory/dir2467/1192662546.jpg) (http://www.imgplace.com/directory/dir2467/1192662295.jpg)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: shgoh on October 18, 2007, 03:05:39 AM
Huh... what's the exchange rate over there ? Is this same item more expensive in your country or is it just an exchange rate issue ?I paid $1,822.86 CAD (after taxes)

I'm not sure my friend...$1 USD = $1.09 AUD at the moment...moreover I got it through the educational store! :o
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on October 18, 2007, 03:13:19 AM
Oh sorry haven't noticed it's Australian Dollar...

This is what I got when I tried to convert currencies online:

(http://www.imgplace.com/directory/dir2468/1192669793.jpg)

So, it is not really a big difference. Moreover, I just noticed your system is coming with 2GB of RAM. Mine was with 1 GB and I upgraded it myself few days later... still the difference is little bit higher than it should be. I found some nice discounts here in Toronto and got my memory 1 GB DDR2 for as low as $48 CAD. A lot cheaper than if I got this machine with 2 GB installed.

Cheers!

Welcome to MAC world my friend !  :)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: shgoh on October 18, 2007, 03:16:40 AM
Thanks Sasha my friend...looking forward to the delivery date! ;D

I'm sure i'll have more questions on Mac in the coming future 8)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on October 18, 2007, 03:25:18 AM
Nah, you just think so... you'll see how easy this switch will be. And you'll be amazed how smooth everything goes.  ;)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on October 18, 2007, 06:20:36 AM
I see you ordered the Mac with the Apple Wireless Keyboard. That is the most likely reason for the delay in shipping. The Wireless keyboards are in short supply and have only recently arrived at some of the Apple Retail stores.

Also it looks like you customized it with extra memory, that is also adding to the ship time
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: shgoh on October 19, 2007, 01:45:56 AM
I just checked the online order status of my iMac...it's prepared for shipment! ;D...so it might be here before 2-3 weeks 8)

Oh yea...can I use my current wireless ADSL modem or do I need a different one for iMac? A simple question: how do I ensure wireless security? Is using a WEP key and MAC address filtering sufficient? How do I know the MAC address of my iMac? ???
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on October 19, 2007, 02:29:10 AM
Of course you can use your existing ADSL modem, I am using mine without any problems. Wireless security should be set inside your router but I guess your modem also features a built-in routher so you should set it inside your modem configuration page. I use WPA2 (TKIP/AES) security protected with password of course (AES stands for Advanced Encryption System, which on my router utilizes a symmetric 128-Bit block data encryption).

You just have to plug your Mac in and wireless (Airport) should take care of everything. It will ask you for your password (if you set one), you type it and you're good to go... at least that's how it was when I plugged my "baby" in...

Cheers!
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on October 20, 2007, 09:31:43 PM
If you want to see the MAC Address of th AirPort Card go to System Prefrences and click on Network then click AirPort and it will be listed as AirPort ID (under 10.4.x).
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on October 20, 2007, 09:37:15 PM
Also go here:
http://www.asia.apple.com/macosx/uptodate/

And click on the link For Australian customers to get your copy of leopard for $12.95 (AU dollars)if it does not come with your mac. Be sure to click on the Correct link. there are two: one if you bought from apple and one if you bought from a reseller
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on October 21, 2007, 03:47:25 AM
Regarding this reply of mine:
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=29799.msg257018#msg257018x (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=29799.msg257018#msg257018x)

OK, I understand there is a policy - October 1st and after... how much is the upgrade again ? $9 or something like that... August is not that far behind, why there isn't anything like a semi-policy ? Buyers of new iMacs get this Leopard upgrade for $50 ? That would be so nice indeed...
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on October 21, 2007, 10:07:27 PM
Regarding this reply of mine:
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=29799.msg257018#msg257018x (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=29799.msg257018#msg257018x)

OK, I understand there is a policy - October 1st and after... how much is the upgrade again ? $9 or something like that... August is not that far behind, why there isn't anything like a semi-policy ? Buyers of new iMacs get this Leopard upgrade for $50 ? That would be so nice indeed...

Because Everyone has known Since June that Leopard was coming in October, so Its not like no one knew it was coming.
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on October 21, 2007, 10:39:20 PM
Yes true, but Apple also knew it's coming out in October... why they didn't wait with releasing new iMacs till then and everybody happy ? This way even though no one forced us (  ;D ), we were practically forced to buy it immediately upon its release... I simply couldn't wait much longer, I was going crazy already  ;D  ;D  ;D Like you don't know that Kyle  ;D

Ah well... no big deal anyway, I am ready to pay the full price and I will do it as soon as it's out. OK, not the first day, I'll wait few days to see how things are going on my friend's computer and then I'm all over it. Leopard is worth of every cent, so asking for any kind of discount on $129 only, is ridiculous. I don't want to sound ridiculous, so I'll stop it here . - - - .  :D

Cheers!

EDIT: Oh yes... I almost forgot... is there any discount going on for us Windows converts ?  ;) LOL  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on October 22, 2007, 02:41:43 AM
Well Apple dows a lot of business to Students and other Educational institutions an thats why they released the iMac early, to get those people to purchase.

Also for anyone wanting leopard. Order from Amazon. They are selling for $109 ($20 off)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: shgoh on October 22, 2007, 05:43:33 AM
Thanks Mac and Sasha! I received my iMac!!! and ordered my copy of Leopard upgrade!!!

Just a simple question, how do I play rmvb files in Mac OS X??
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on October 22, 2007, 01:30:34 PM
Isn't Realplayer for Mac supposed to do that for you ?

http://forms.real.com/real/player/blackjack.html?platform2=Mac%20OS%20X&product=RealPlayer%2010&proc=g3&lang=&show_list=0&src=macjack (http://forms.real.com/real/player/blackjack.html?platform2=Mac%20OS%20X&product=RealPlayer%2010&proc=g3&lang=&show_list=0&src=macjack)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: shgoh on October 23, 2007, 04:50:43 AM
Isn't Realplayer for Mac supposed to do that for you ?

http://forms.real.com/real/player/blackjack.html?platform2=Mac%20OS%20X&product=RealPlayer%2010&proc=g3&lang=&show_list=0&src=macjack (http://forms.real.com/real/player/blackjack.html?platform2=Mac%20OS%20X&product=RealPlayer%2010&proc=g3&lang=&show_list=0&src=macjack)

yea...but i'm thinking of how to play rmvb with installing real player...

btw...how do i install/uninstall programs in mac os x??

Any nice and "must have" freeware for mac os x?? 8)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on October 23, 2007, 05:39:47 AM
Try Mplayer. It play almost anything and runs on Windows, Linux and Mac
http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html

Most commercial apps life MSFT Office have uninstallers just like on windows
To uninstall a program in that has no uninstaller in OS X just drag its icon to the trash. This will leave some small files scattered around though. Thats why I love App Zapper its $13 and you get free upgrades for Life
http://www.appzapper.com/
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on October 23, 2007, 03:27:52 PM
Can't live without App Zapper and it is worth of money. When you want to uninstall something, just drag it's icon into the App Zapper bin and it will uninstall every single trace of it. It will even give you a list of all dependencies and you can decide if you want to erase them or not. Wonderful simply wonderful.

Also, do not even think of running your Mac without Little Snitch. It is something like a firewall on Windows, except it's main purpose is to let you know when some application calls home. There is no application in the world I would let that do without my permission. So this little thing is one of the best programs out there. I paid $28 CAD and I have lifetime upgrades for free.
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: shgoh on October 24, 2007, 04:05:25 AM
Thanks Sasha + Mac....I just got App Zapper and it works great!

Little Snitch? I'll try it out. Mac OS doesn't need any anti-spyware stuffs etc?

Oh yea, how do I format an external HD for use with both Mac and Windows??
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on October 24, 2007, 02:16:01 PM
What is spyware on Mac ?  ;D  ;D No we do not, at least I do not use anything anti-spyware.

I have my external HD that I formatted normally in Windows (NTFS) and whenever I want to back something up I just hook it up to my Mac. I've also heard that new Leopard can read FAT32 as well, so let's say you are running Windows using BootCamp, you did some work in Windows and left everything on Windows partition, even if it's a FAT32, when you are back to Leopard, you can browse through your Windows files without any problems, take some files, work with them, erase them, whatever you want...

EDIT: Oh yeah... don't forget to get yourself a Little Snitch too (from one of my previous replies)... you'll need it.  ;)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on October 24, 2007, 02:32:36 PM
What is spyware on Mac ?  ;D  ;D No we do not, at least I do not use anything anti-spyware.

I have my external HD that I formatted normally in Windows (NTFS) and whenever I want to back something up I just hook it up to my Mac. I've also heard that new Leopard can read FAT32 as well, so let's say you are running Windows using BootCamp, you did some work in Windows and left everything on Windows partition, even if it's a FAT32, when you are back to Leopard, you can browse through your Windows files without any problems, take some files, work with them, erase them, whatever you want...

EDIT: Oh yeah... don't forget to get yourself a Little Snitch too (from one of my previous replies)... you'll need it.  ;)

Well Mac OS X Tiger can Read NTFS volumes but not write to them. However Mac OS X can read and write FAT32 and you dont need leopard either. OS X has been able to read and write FAT32 volumes for a long time.

About Little Snitch. Its basically a IDS (intrusion Detection System). Its a nice little program. Also dont forget to enable the built in Firewall.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Mac/10.4/en/mh1242.html
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on October 24, 2007, 03:53:55 PM
My mistake, typo whatever... my external HD is FAT32 formatted, so Tiger was always reading FAT32 as well as writing on it. I save my backups on it without any trouble. I believe it was other way around, so hey mentioned something about writing to NTFS on Leopard... not sure though.
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on October 24, 2007, 08:57:58 PM
My mistake, typo whatever... my external HD is FAT32 formatted, so Tiger was always reading FAT32 as well as writing on it. I save my backups on it without any trouble. I believe it was other way around, so hey mentioned something about writing to NTFS on Leopard... not sure though.

The Developer released of leopard could read and write to NTFS but the final release will only have Read only capability. I read somewhere that Apple will have the NTFS component on its developer site for continued testing. Id say when its ready they will integrate it into Leopard with one of the 10.5.x updates.

Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: shgoh on October 24, 2007, 10:06:55 PM
yea...i realised tiger can read but not write NTFS and FAT32 can solve this problem, but my external HD is 320Gb, so windows can't format it due to it's limitation, and there's no FAT32 option in mac disk utility? ???
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: DavidR on October 24, 2007, 10:16:28 PM
Personally I wouldn't want to have a huge single partition in breaking it into different partitions you can apply a different format to each partition if you wish and it would also get over any size limitations.
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on October 25, 2007, 02:30:51 AM
Exactly, David is right... that's why it says "partition". You can't make a wrong move if you create two partitions, or even three... at the end, your files can be organized much better, and when you are searching something it would shorten your search time as well.
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on October 25, 2007, 04:46:15 AM
yea...i realised tiger can read but not write NTFS and FAT32 can solve this problem, but my external HD is 320Gb, so windows can't format it due to it's limitation, and there's no FAT32 option in mac disk utility? ???

FAT32 is there but its called MS-DOS file System.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=DiskUtility/10.5/en/duh15.html


EDIT:
Quote
Exactly, David is right... that's why it says "partition". You can't make a wrong move if you create two partitions, or even three... at the end, your files can be organized much better, and when you are searching something it would shorten your search time as well.
Here is A link on Partitioning an External Disk into several Volumes
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=DiskUtility/10.5/en/duh1012.html
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: shgoh on October 25, 2007, 01:39:36 PM
I don't know why but in my disk utility, there's no MS-DOS format! ???
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on October 25, 2007, 01:51:19 PM
Follow this:

   1. In Disk Utility, select the disk you want to format for Windows computers.
   2. Click Erase and choose MS-DOS File System from the Volume Format pop-up menu. (Erase is here something like a FORMAT on PC)
   3. Type a name for the disk. (The name's maximum length is 11 characters)
   4. Click the Erase button, then click Erase again.

Quote
Formatting a disk for Windows computers

You can use Disk Utility to format a disk for Windows computers. You can choose one of several MS-DOS formats.

WARNING: Formatting a disk erases its files. Copy files you want to save to another disk before formatting the disk.

You can also choose to partition a disk using a Windows partition scheme which formats the partitions in MS-DOS format.

Source (Kyle already posted): http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=DiskUtility/10.5/en/duh15.html (http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=DiskUtility/10.5/en/duh15.html)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: shgoh on October 25, 2007, 02:00:02 PM
Follow this:

   1. In Disk Utility, select the disk you want to format for Windows computers.
   2. Click Erase and choose MS-DOS File System from the Volume Format pop-up menu. (Erase is here something like a FORMAT on PC)
   3. Type a name for the disk. (The name's maximum length is 11 characters)
   4. Click the Erase button, then click Erase again.

I understand those procedures Sasha, but there's no MS-DOS file system option in the Volume pop-up menu!?? ???
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on October 25, 2007, 03:24:09 PM
Oh sorry my friend, we'll have to wait for Kyle to see what's happening... could it be that you don't have the most recent version of OS ? Nah... that shouldn't be the problem here... well, let's wait for Kyle.  :-\
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on October 25, 2007, 03:46:22 PM
Hmmm This has been the same in all Versions of OS X 10.3.x and 10.4.x so it should not matter what version shgoh has.

here are some screen shots of what I (and Sasha) see

The Erase Screen
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb36/barkerkr/Step1.png

And the different File formats
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb36/barkerkr/Step2.png
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on October 25, 2007, 03:49:18 PM
ALso be sure in the left panel to click on the ACTUAL disk and not the partitions in the disk. Example in my shot above You click on the Staples media drive and not the FLASH partition

If you still dont see the MS-DOS option post a screen shot so I can see whats going on
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: shgoh on October 26, 2007, 01:13:48 AM
Sorry guys, I got it wrong and it's working great now. Thanks guys! I'll really appreciate your help.

By the way, which zip utility you guys use?

I'm starting to love my new iMac! 8)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on October 26, 2007, 01:54:31 AM
Most common archive formats are supported in Mac OS X without the need of any extra Software.

You can also quickly create a .ZIP archive in OS X by selecting the items you want to archive and then Right-Click and choose "Make Archive of X Items" (X would be the number of items you have selected)


I also use the Free Stuffit Expander which is available for Mac and Windows
http://www.stuffit.com/mac/expander/

Which includes a lot of other compressed file formats. The Free version can expand the archives or you can pay for the software to be able to create archives. To this day ive never needed to use any archive format other than ZIP which as i said earlier you can do easily inside OS X
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: shgoh on October 26, 2007, 10:15:15 AM
Thanks a lot! One more thing, how do i invoke Exposé since the F9 and F10 keys control the media players??

Sorry guys, i know i'm kind of troublesome... :-[
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on October 26, 2007, 02:29:05 PM
Not sure what do you mean... new keyboards (aluminum, flat ones) are also equipped with those shortcuts, they even have little icons printed on them. Exposé for example can be accessed by pressing F3, widgets by pressing F4... there is a full set of media keys on the top of the keyboard.

Also, mighty mouse is very useful here too... by default I had those two buttons on the sides assigned to bring Exposé on the screen, and by pressing little 360 degrees scrolling ball on the top, you get widgets...

(http://images.apple.com/keyboard/images/index_icon_controls20070807.gif)

Take a look in here (note: this is a wireless keyboard in this screenshot, but same thing goes for wired one):

(http://www.imgplace.com/directory/dir2639/1193401684.png)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on October 26, 2007, 06:27:00 PM
Actually Sasha the Wired and wireless keyboards are different in their function key layout.

Shgoh if you are having trouble with the default keys you  can change the keys that control dashboard, Expose, etc in the system preferences very easily

1) Open System Pref.
2) Choose Dashboard & Expose
3) Select the keys you want

Its very easy and if you have a multi-button mouse you can even set those buttons for the controls too  :)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on October 26, 2007, 06:33:48 PM
Sorry guys, i know i'm kind of troublesome... :-[

Not At all. Im glad to finally be of some use around here :D
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on October 26, 2007, 08:21:25 PM
Actually Sasha the Wired and wireless keyboards are different in their function key layout.

...
...


Hmmm... I didn't know that... but from the screenshot (I took it of the Apple website) you can't tell that. Those function keys look perfectly same to me...

(http://www.imgplace.com/directory/dir2645/1193422736.jpg)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on October 27, 2007, 01:57:49 AM
I simply couldn't wait any more... Leopard is mine, all mine   :) I can see it... another sleepless night is in front of me...  ;D

(http://www.imgplace.com/directory/dir2650/1193442909.jpg)

(http://www.imgplace.com/directory/dir2650/1193443001.jpg)

Didn't get that T-shirt  :'( but it's all good... just first 500 people got their hands on that T-shirt. I was 501st  :-\
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on October 27, 2007, 04:28:53 AM
501st  ;D ooooh i would have knocked out he guy in front of me lol ;)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: shgoh on October 27, 2007, 03:53:10 PM
that's so cool sasha! i'm still waiting for mine...hopefully it'll come on monday ;D

thanks for all the help sasha + mac!
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on October 28, 2007, 01:10:06 AM
Just a little update... I have to say that Leopard works like a charm. Upgrade process from Tiger went without a single problem, and in little less than 1 hour Leopard nested inside my iMac. I am so happy with this new OS update. Everything works perfectly out of box, no unnecessary tweaking, patching or anything like that... unlike Microsoft's latest OS  ::)

If just Apple finds a way to bring down those hardware prices, I am sure a lot of people would switch without a second thought... no doubt about it. I know I'll never regret I did this... never gonna look back. Go - OS X - Go !!!
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: shgoh on October 28, 2007, 06:54:16 AM
Is it possible to do a clean install of leopard instead of upgrading from tiger?

by the way, i don't know why sometimes my LCD screen has slight distortion! Is it normal?? ???
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on October 28, 2007, 02:11:32 PM
Of course it is possible. Insert your Leopard DVD in your DVD drive while logged in your Tiger session and when window is open on the screen, click on INSTALL LEOPARD icon. You'll be asked to restart your system so it can boot from DVD. Just read what's on the screen carefully and at one point you'll be able to pick what kind of install you want. If I remember well, you'll have to press CUSTOMIZE install button so you can change it there.

I didn't want to install from the scratch because there is little if nothing advantage of doing that on my system. I already built myself a nice configuration, installed programs that I need and use, so didn't want to lose all that and doing everything from the scratch.

For you of course, if you still have pretty much unchanged configuration, it is better to do completely clean install.

As far as performance goes, there will be no difference in doing it either way.

What kind of distortion you are talking about ? Can you post some photo or something so we can see what you mean... I am pretty sure there should be no distortion of any kind on new systems. First one I've got had three dead pixels on the screen and worst of all, they all were located around the center of the monitor. I went back to the Apple store, and they immediately gave me a brand new iMac. Screen looks perfect, colors are amazing, not a single dead pixel on the screen and there is no sign of any kind of distortion on the screen.

Post a photo if possible, but if you think it doesn't look right, that's more than enough to ask for brand new one. You paid all that money and you certainly deserved to get a wonderful error-free product. Hurry up 'cause you have 15 days only to do this exchange, otherwise you'll have to bring your unit in and wait who knows how long for them to fix it for you... not quite good picture  :-\ .

Hope you'll get this fixed as soon as possible my friend.
Cheers!
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on October 28, 2007, 11:46:53 PM
The Wait period on A LCD panel replacement varies. If the have the panel in the Store one of the Tech can change it out  and you could have it the next day. If they had to order the panel it would obviously take longer.

Shgoh ordered the iMac  customized with extra RAM so i doubt they will exchange for a new Machine, just replace the LCD Panel

But there might not even be anything wrong with the Screen, it could be software related. But There is no way to tell without a picture or a better explanation
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: shgoh on October 29, 2007, 08:15:53 AM
Hi guys, I've tried calling the Apple Australia support and that guy asked me to run the Apple Hardware Test, reset PRAM, NVRAM and the SMC. The Apple Hardware Test doesn't show any errors, but the distortion comes back occasionally.

I've managed to capture some minor distortions and uploaded them to here:
http://members.iinet.net.au/~sheng.goh/Picture1.png
http://members.iinet.net.au/~sheng.goh/Picture2.png

I must say that I'm not too impressed with their support. Anyway, I've just received my copy of Leopard so maybe I'll tried to do a clean install and see if the problem still persists.

Thanks guys.
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on October 29, 2007, 12:52:28 PM
Well, not sure 100% but to me this looks like software problem... of course it could be worse, something wrong with the video card inside or something even bigger. I've never seen anything like this.

Try installing Leopard from the scratch, a clean install (don't forget to chose CUSTOMIZE INSTALL somewhere along the installation process) and see if that happens again. If it's still happening, then I am sure something is wrong with your hardware and you need to return that unit ASAP.

Can't tell you anything about Australia Apple support, but these guys in Canada are most polite people in the universe. Such a nice and educated persons, polite and friendly above all, I can't say a bad word about them. I am also sure it's very difficult for them to understand what's happening because of the distance between where you live and where they are located... maybe showing them somehow those screenshots although I know it's not easy...

Try installing Leopard, let's hope it's just a bad Tiger installation.

Good luck my friend !
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on October 29, 2007, 07:39:32 PM
Most Likely some kind of Driver Issue. Should be fixed in the 10.4.11 update to Tiger (should be released any day) And obviously in leopard

Regarding support, Regrettably Apples Phone support is not as good internationally as it is in the USA. Still even in the US its better to go the a Apple Retail store so the Mac Genius can see what is going on
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on October 29, 2007, 08:22:17 PM
Hey Shgoh, don't forget to keep us updated. I am very interested to see how this ends especially because I know exactly how you feel. Keeping my fingers crossed for you my buddy !  ;)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: shgoh on October 30, 2007, 12:51:33 AM
Hi guys, after I did a clean install of Leopard yesterday, my iMac is basically unusable! It freezes so frequently that you can't really use it. It froze at the welcome video right after I installed Leopard. In my 1st hour of running Leopard, it froze 3 times and screen blackout twice. So I virtually gave up and pack it back into the box! :'(

Anyway, I've just sent it back to an Apple Approved Service Provider today, and we'll see what happens from there.
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on October 30, 2007, 01:09:58 AM
Too bad to hear this, and your first experience with Apple was really bad. I was almost 100% sure it's an hardware problem because lines like those inside those two screenshots you posted are pointing that something bad is going on with either video card, memory or even processor. Random screen deviations are almost certain sign of some kind of hardware failure.

As I mentioned before, your time is precious, so is your money you spent on something like that. Never say: "...oh this is nothing, I can live with that..." It's not nothing, it is a big, huge deal. They are selling their products as something super polished, so you expect to get that for the money you spent. You have all rights to be satisfied, so do not give up until they give you brand new thing, even though Kyle may say they will not give it to you because it was custom order. Do not take NO as an answer. You are valuable customer and they have to treat you like that, otherwise they and their business will go down and nothing else. You paid for brand new machine, you don't want something fixed... if that's the only option, ask for some kind of discount. It is not your fault, you reported this problem in within those 15 days from the first day you purchased it, so they have to fix it.

Again, good luck and please keep us posted.
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on October 30, 2007, 02:49:04 AM
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It is not your fault, you reported this problem in within those 15 days from the first day you purchased it, so they have to fix it.

Its Actually Covered for the first year. Keep us posted on what they find out.
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: bob3160 on October 30, 2007, 09:10:59 PM
Here's an article for the apple lovers on this forum.  :)

5 apps I can’t live without in Leopard (http://blogs.zdnet.com/Apple/?p=985&tag=nl.e622)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: FreewheelinFrank on October 31, 2007, 08:56:20 AM
BBC News Player - Apple Leopard's New Features (http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/newsid_7060000/newsid_7067800/7067845.stm?bw=bb&mp=rm&news=1)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on October 31, 2007, 06:15:27 PM
I know this was before Leopard was released but this is what InfoWorld Test Center chief technologist Tom Yager had to say about Leopard. Of course they were testing the latest release before Leopard went gold.

Leopard, 'a beautiful upgrade' says Tom Yager

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Outtake:

Tom Yager is a big time geek, and I mean that in the best way possible. As the ' InfoWorld Test Center chief technologist' he gets his hands on all kinds of cool tech, and has used more OSes than most people ever dreamed of (heck, most people would be hard pressed to name more than 2 OSes, but that is beside the point). I point all this out because Tom knows what he is talking about, and recently he was moved to talk about Leopard.

Tom calls Leopard 'a beautiful upgrade,' and in no uncertain terms lauds it as the best OS choice out there. He goes as far as saying that Leopard is more important than the iPhone, which I actually agree with. Read the full post to get even more excited about Friday

Read Tom's article (Oct.17th):

http://weblog.infoworld.com/yager/archives/2007/10/take_me_home_le.html (http://weblog.infoworld.com/yager/archives/2007/10/take_me_home_le.html)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on November 01, 2007, 05:34:51 AM
Here is a little of my THoughts on Leopard. I hope Sasha will chime in on his thoughts too ;)


Ok this is the System im running Leopard on
iBook G4
1.33Ghz PowerPC G4 Processor
1GB of RAM
I will upgrade my Dual-Core intel Mac Tomorrow

Here goes:


Lots of changes in the system preferences but most stuff is still in the same place just reworded  to make it a little easier for non-technical users

Speed - About the same as Tiger on Single Processor Systems (Multi-core machine will see improvement)

Memory Usage- About the same as tiger overall.  Does use a little more if your using the Spaces Feature

New Dock - the stacks feature is VERY nice.

Spaces - I can really see this being great on my Laptop since the screen is so small. but if you have a good size monitor ( like my big one on my desktop) its not as useful.

Time Machine - Easy way for backups for most non tech-savvy users. Experienced users will find it lacking (I still prefer manual backup)

Networking - Finally easy access to network drives from the sidebar.

Features I cant wait to try out:

Screen Sharing - LOVE this feature and cant wait to try it. Once I upgrade my Mac Mini I will try controlling the Mini from work with my Laptop.

Back to My Mac - This feature will require a .Mac subscription ( I have one)  basically it lets me see my Mac Mini's  Harddrive from anywhere in the world with my laptop. So if i get to work and cant find a file on my laptop i can connect to the Mac at home and get it from there. Wonderful.


Overall Impression - It runs as good as Tiger did on my laptop. I expect it to really improve the speed of my dual-core mini though.
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on November 01, 2007, 01:14:04 PM
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Here is a little of my THoughts on Leopard. I hope Sasha will chime in on his thoughts too ;)

Sure thing  ;)

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Ok this is the System im running Leopard on
iBook G4
1.33Ghz PowerPC G4 Processor
1GB of RAM
I will upgrade my Dual-Core intel Mac Tomorrow


My experiences are based on running OS X Leopard on Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz, 2 Gb RAM, 320 GB HD, ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro 256 Mb

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Here goes:

Lots of changes in the system preferences but most stuff is still in the same place just reworded  to make it a little easier for non-technical users

Yes that's really nice, they thought of all new users and Windows converts as well. They made this learning curve a lot less curvier LOL.

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Speed - About the same as Tiger on Single Processor Systems (Multi-core machine will see improvement)

I'm telling you, a lot faster than Tiger on Intel Core 2 Duo machines. Also all those candies, bells and whistles, nice animations are perfectly smooth... out of this World.

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Memory Usage- About the same as tiger overall.  Does use a little more if your using the Spaces Feature

...or Expose and Widgets, but that is so minor I can't even notice anything.

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New Dock - the stacks feature is VERY nice.

3D look with reflection of your desktop and every window that you drag close to the Dock... unbelievable pleasant for the eyes. I like stack feature (FAN) but also I found GRID very nice and very useful indeed.

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Spaces - I can really see this being great on my Laptop since the screen is so small. but if you have a good size monitor ( like my big one on my desktop) its not as useful.

Laptops - no doubt, but I found it so useful even on my 20 inches LCD on my desktop... mostly I never have less than 3 or 4 huge applications open in the same time, so I could've really used some more space... guess what... Apple gave it to me, thanks Apple ! ;)

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Time Machine - Easy way for backups for most non tech-savvy users. Experienced users will find it lacking (I still prefer manual backup)

Still didn't try it, have to buy another external drive. Not sure if my existing external 160 Gb one will be enough

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Networking - Finally easy access to network drives from the sidebar.

Yes they changed a lot of things here. In no seconds I was able to access my shared drives on my Windows machine. On my Windows machine XP, I am able to see my Mac on my network, browse, copy files and it is unbelievable how easy everything now is. The only problem I am having is, I have no clue how to find my Windows machine on my Mac. The only thing I managed so far, as I already mentioned, is that I am able to super easy connect to my shared drives on my Windows machine. I want to see whole computer though...

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Features I cant wait to try out:

Screen Sharing - LOVE this feature and cant wait to try it. Once I upgrade my Mac Mini I will try controlling the Mini from work with my Laptop.

Sure me too, but I am not sure it works with Windows -> Mac and backwards... for now I use pcAnywhere CrossPlatform and it works like a charm.

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Back to My Mac - This feature will require a .Mac subscription ( I have one)  basically it lets me see my Mac Mini's  Harddrive from anywhere in the world with my laptop. So if i get to work and cant find a file on my laptop i can connect to the Mac at home and get it from there. Wonderful.

Yes incredible feature although I don't have .Mac subscription, just testing it for 60 days I believe... I don't really need it, since I can connect to my Mac from wherever I want using pcAnywhere as I mentioned earlier...

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Overall Impression - It runs as good as Tiger did on my laptop. I expect it to really improve the speed of my dual-core mini though.

You'll see  :)

Now few from me:

1. They should have removed that spinning beachball cursor finally... it looks "too happy", kind of childish. Few people from work complained about the same thing... not a big deal though, but I've noticed they changed even smaller things for the better, and this cursor thingie could use some TLC for sure.

2. Sounds in OS X haven't changed like from the first OS X release, LOL. They really need some upgrade.

3. Spaces - I want to be able to set different background wallpaper for each space... it would be nice, although not that important.

Don't have any more wishes... this OS X made me so happy that's for sure. I'm loving it and I keep falling in love every day more and more. Every decent human being deserved to be able to get a Mac. I know prices are still pretty high, but I hope something will change eventually.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on November 01, 2007, 03:28:18 PM
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The only problem I am having is, I have no clue how to find my Windows machine on my Mac. The only thing I managed so far, as I already mentioned, is that I am able to super easy connect to my shared drives on my Windows machine. I want to see whole computer though...

Well you could share the whole C drive on the PC but other than that I dont know.
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on November 01, 2007, 06:18:14 PM
shgoh my buddy, is there any update on your Mac's situation ? Let us know when there is something new.
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: bob3160 on November 01, 2007, 09:20:02 PM
Leopard suffers the post release blues (http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=896&tag=nl.e589)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on November 01, 2007, 09:27:53 PM
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Some Apple users are so frustrated that they are considering going down the same road that some Vista users have gone down - and reverting back to the previous version of the OS.

Hahaha, I almost pied my pants when I read this... I bet MS is planting these stories. Totally untrue.

Author of the article mentioned this at the end:

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Now I’m going to be honest and say that I’ve not seen any of these bugs that people are talking about.  Partly that’s down to my Mac being a clean install running nothing but the Mac OS...

Same here... not a single issue so far. And even if there are some, I am sure Apple will be on them in no time... not like MS with Vista issues... already been few months since the release of Vista and nothing is patched yet... even worst, we'll have to wait till the mid-next-year for fixes.
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on November 01, 2007, 09:51:47 PM
Well he does not list any specific issues in his article. I for one would think that if there were serious issues then the Mac user forums (like Macworld's forum and Apple's Own Discussion boards) would be swarming with angry users. This is simply not true. Now there are users that are Downgrading back to tiger but they are doing so because some software has not yet been updated for leopard. One Big one is Adobe Acrobat. And Adobe has already said a update will be out by the end of the year so they wont wait long.


Also Leopard no longer includes Classic. Classic was the Mac OS 9 emulation environment that allowed users to run non OS X native apps in a special emulated environment. Its been 5 years since OS 9's EOL so this affects a very small number of users though.


Aside from those two reasons most users have upgraded to leopard or are planning to. The ones that Stick with tiger are mostly older PowerPC G3 users
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: shgoh on November 01, 2007, 10:53:17 PM
shgoh my buddy, is there any update on your Mac's situation ? Let us know when there is something new.

Hi Sasha...no news since I sent it in to an AASP ::)

It's been 3 days so I might just give them a call later.
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: bob3160 on November 02, 2007, 12:39:54 PM
Leaky Leopard? (http://www.lockergnome.com/nexus/zicoz/2007/10/31/leaky-leopard/)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: bob3160 on November 02, 2007, 12:43:41 PM
Mac Help is Great in OS X Leopard (http://chris.pirillo.com/2007/10/30/mac-help-is-great-in-os-x-leopard-3/)


( See Kyle I don't only post negative items about Apple  :) )
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on November 02, 2007, 09:31:36 PM
Leaky Leopard? (http://www.lockergnome.com/nexus/zicoz/2007/10/31/leaky-leopard/)

I'd comment on this... to tell the truth, I don't even use OS X built in firewall (even though it's good thing). I have my router/firewall, plus I installed third party application widely used by many Mac lovers, called Little Snitch. Many things could try, but nothing will fool this little application.
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on November 03, 2007, 02:15:47 AM
Apple did mess up the firewall a little but im sure on of the update will improve tis behavior. (10.5.2, 10.5.2 etc)


Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: shgoh on November 03, 2007, 02:19:18 AM
Okay, I've called up the AASP and they told me that they have to replace the logic board in my iMac. I'm not sure what it is but I'm definitely unhappy about repairing my "less than 2 weeks old" iMac. So I called up Apple support to demand that either they replace my iMac or I'm gonna return it to them. So Apple agreed to send a courier to pick it up from me next week, and I'm gonna have a new one! ;D
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on November 03, 2007, 02:31:48 AM
Logic Board is Mac Speak for Motherboard.

Most likely a Bad GPU but they have to replace the whole board because its soldered on.

Glad they are giving you a new mac :)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on November 03, 2007, 03:17:08 AM
Okay, I've called up the AASP and they told me that they have to replace the logic board in my iMac. I'm not sure what it is but I'm definitely unhappy about repairing my "less than 2 weeks old" iMac. So I called up Apple support to demand that either they replace my iMac or I'm gonna return it to them. So Apple agreed to send a courier to pick it up from me next week, and I'm gonna have a new one! ;D

I am not happy at all you had to go through all this my friend, but I am soooooo happy you won this game. I told you... do NOT take NO as an answer. It wasn't your fault it happened, so you have all rights to ask for satisfaction. Apple on the other side onece again proved they are true professionals.

Great news! Let us know when you get your new aluminum monster.  ;D
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: justin1278 on November 03, 2007, 04:00:49 AM
Great to hear you're getting a new one, did they say anything about how long it would take for them to ship the new one?

I hope you have a better experience with the new one, and this one should have Leopard already installed ;)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: bob3160 on November 06, 2007, 12:54:00 AM
Five big differences between Mac OS and Windows (http://www.cnettv.com/9742-1_53-31308.html)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: justin1278 on November 06, 2007, 04:28:30 AM
Five big differences between Mac OS and Windows (http://www.cnettv.com/9742-1_53-31308.html)

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With Windows, you get a Blue Screen that lets you know something's wrong, with Mac, you get a swirling beach ball

I find that funny lol, although I think the beach ball looks better then a BSOD with a bunch of references you don't really understand...
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on November 06, 2007, 04:54:17 AM
And its called by mac users:

The Spinning Beach Ball of Doom lol

Really the beach ball means the machine is working much like the hourglass does on WIndows.

A more accurate comparison would be on windows you get the BSOD and on Mac (and any UNIX based machine) you get a Kernel Panic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_Panic

Which looks like this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:MacOSX_kernel_panic.png
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: shgoh on November 06, 2007, 06:23:17 AM
Thanks guys, hopefully the new one doesn't give me any more headache! It seems like the new iMacs are quite problematic, with lots of display and freezing issues in the Apple forum! :'(
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on November 07, 2007, 01:27:25 AM
Display problems like you had are hardware related and they can be easily resolved... ask for another machine.

Freezings on iMacs are software related and mostly are happening when using iLife software. I've read that there will be some updates in next few weeks to solve those problems. I personally never had anything like that, and every single application works perfectly. The only problem I had was with iMovie when I switched to Leopard, but the problem was iMovie just didn't want to start. The very next day, Apple released some set of updates and the problem with iMovie not starting properly was solved immediately.
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on November 07, 2007, 02:36:43 AM
Thanks guys, hopefully the new one doesn't give me any more headache! It seems like the new iMacs are quite problematic, with lots of display and freezing issues in the Apple forum! :'(
Well remember the only people posting on the apple forum are people with problems. Much like the Avast home/pro forum section here. Most people are quite happy with their aluminum iMac.

Also there is a software update specifically for the Aluminum iMac if it does not automatically show up in Software Update you can manually download it below:

Leopard version:
http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/imacsoftwareupdate13leopard.html

Tiger Version:
http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/imacsoftwareupdate121tiger.html

Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on November 08, 2007, 03:49:16 AM
Also iMac Owners Apple ahs released a Hard Drive firmware update

http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/harddriveupdate10.html

BACK UP YOUR DATA BEFORE INSTALLING THAT UPDATE!
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on November 08, 2007, 04:10:34 AM
Hey Kyle, why do I get this ?

(http://www.imgplace.com/directory/dir2963/1194491378.jpg)

Could it be that I already downloaded it with one of those automatic updates ?
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on November 08, 2007, 04:16:15 AM
Sasha, it Means your computer does not contain one of the affected hard drive models.

Don't worry not every iMac shipped with the problem drives, be glad yours didnt  ;)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on November 08, 2007, 04:20:08 AM
Great news, thanks Kyle !

Yes, I found few other people having some "problem", hehe... although they are on Mac Pro...

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=383394 (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=383394)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on November 09, 2007, 03:35:50 AM
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Great news, thanks Kyle !

Yes, I found few other people having some "problem", hehe... although they are on Mac Pro...

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=383394
Well the hard Drive update is also for the Mac Pro so those users got their Fix Too  ;)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on November 09, 2007, 03:39:52 AM
Attn Little Snitch Users:

Version 2.0 has been released!

ITs $24.95 for new users or $12.95 to upgrade from Version 1.x

users of 1.x that have a serial starting with 32 get to upgrade for free (Sasha since you bought it so recently you should get the free update)

Details are here:
http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/11/08/snitch/index.php


Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on November 09, 2007, 04:07:54 AM
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Great news, thanks Kyle !

Yes, I found few other people having some "problem", hehe... although they are on Mac Pro...

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=383394
Well the hard Drive update is also for the Mac Pro so those users got their Fix Too  ;)

Yes, I know... I posted it because they had same "problem" like I did... their machines also didn't need that update so I guess they have some newer versions of HD hardware just like me.
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: shgoh on November 13, 2007, 12:57:53 AM
My replacement iMac is finally here! ;D Hopefully it works perfect this time!
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on November 13, 2007, 01:35:26 AM
Attn Little Snitch Users:

Version 2.0 has been released!

ITs $24.95 for new users or $12.95 to upgrade from Version 1.x

users of 1.x that have a serial starting with 32 get to upgrade for free (Sasha since you bought it so recently you should get the free update)

Details are here:
http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/11/08/snitch/index.php


Yes my upgrades are free! Yeepee!

'cause I purchased it just few weeks ago and my serial number starts with 32...

(http://www.imgplace.com/directory/dir3070/1194914065.jpg)

My replacement iMac is finally here! ;D Hopefully it works perfect this time!

Super! Let us know how it's going.  ;)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: shgoh on November 13, 2007, 04:33:24 AM
Oh yea, I've got one stupid question! :P I'm running Leopard now, but iLife is missing! I thought it's suppose to be coupled with iMac? ???
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on November 13, 2007, 05:19:17 AM
iLife doesn't come with Leopard. It is just bundled with new iMacs. Did you get your iMac with Leopard preinstalled or with Tiger and then you upgraded it to Leopard ?

Not sure what's the deal with new systems with Leopard preinstalled, but I know that when I bought my iMac with Tiger, I also got 2 disks with OS X and some utilities and among them, iLife.

If you have those disks, just browse through the folders and search for iLife applications. That's what I did when I installed Leopard and everything works great... actually the only problem I had was with iMovie because it wouldn't start, but the next day I downloaded some updates and among them there was iMovie update... now everything works perfectly.

How's your new iMac ? Noticed any display problems so far (hope not) ?
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: shgoh on November 13, 2007, 12:26:40 PM
It came with Tiger pre-installed, but I did a clean install of Leopard, that's why iLife is lost. Anyway I reinstalled them using the system discs. So far so good my friend, so fingers crossed! ;D
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on November 13, 2007, 01:31:36 PM
Hehe, that's exactly how I lost my iLife, so I had to reinstall it from those 2 disks. First time I installed Leopard I was just upgrading from Tiger, but after few days I decided to do clean install of Leopard... I backed up all my personal data to external HD, and transition was piece of cake. I am really happy with this new OS version.
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: shgoh on November 13, 2007, 11:58:54 PM
There's actually 2 things which I'm not very impressed with Apple!  8)

1) I don't understand why the new iMac owners before 1st Oct, for e.g. Sasha, are not entitled to the Leopard upgrade program!

2) My initial plan is to buy my iMac after Leopard is released on 26 Oct, but from the Leopard upgrade program, it is stated that Mac owners who bought their systems between 1st Oct till end of Dec are eligible for the upgrade. OBVIOUSLY, I assumed that iMac is not going to couple with Leopard till next year! However, the new Macs now all are shipped with Leopard, and now I've got 2 copies of Leopard! ::)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on November 14, 2007, 02:36:44 PM
There's actually 2 things which I'm not very impressed with Apple!  8)

1) I don't understand why the new iMac owners before 1st Oct, for e.g. Sasha, are not entitled to the Leopard upgrade program!

2) My initial plan is to buy my iMac after Leopard is released on 26 Oct, but from the Leopard upgrade program, it is stated that Mac owners who bought their systems between 1st Oct till end of Dec are eligible for the upgrade. OBVIOUSLY, I assumed that iMac is not going to couple with Leopard till next year! However, the new Macs now all are shipped with Leopard, and now I've got 2 copies of Leopard! ::)


Well Why didnt every PC sold since Vista was in development get Vista for Free?

Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on November 14, 2007, 07:12:05 PM
That's why Kyle has this in his signature:

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The Mac is not perfect...

In general I don't mind... but sometimes even if you close your eyes and pretend you don't see or hear anything, Apple politics gets you this way or another. Some things I will never understand, but I am just trying to not to think about that too much and use this tool (iMac) to the maximum. It really does what it's supposed to do and it does that fabulously. Bill Gates, Steve Jobs... they're no saints that's for sure, but I still respect both of them and there is no doubt they both are geniuses. True, Bill Gates is a little bit less of a saint than Steve, but at the end both of them are falling into the same basket. Bill Gates - like him or not, but he gave so much money to charities, hungry people all around the World... so much that Steve will never even earn that amount in his whole lifetime  ;)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: bob3160 on November 14, 2007, 10:08:45 PM
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Well Why didnt every PC sold since Vista was in development get Vista for Free?

Knocking Microsoft isn't an answer for an Apple question.

All this proves is that neither one is perfect but doesn't answer the question that was raised.  :'(
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: shgoh on November 14, 2007, 10:49:04 PM
Well Why didnt every PC sold since Vista was in development get Vista for Free?

Well, to me at least, this is not a decent comparison.

Knocking Microsoft isn't an answer for an Apple question.

All this proves is that neither one is perfect but doesn't answer the question that was raised.  :'(

Couldn't have agree more!

But I still love my Mac! 8)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: justin1278 on November 14, 2007, 10:56:03 PM
Well Why didnt every PC sold since Vista was in development get Vista for Free?

True, not every PC did get a free upgrade while Vista was in development, but many PC's purchased toward the end of last year (October) when Vista was nearing completion did get Vista for free when it was released at the end of January.
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: FreewheelinFrank on November 14, 2007, 11:09:55 PM
Well Why didnt every PC sold since Vista was in development get Vista for Free?

True, not every PC did get a free upgrade while Vista was in development, but many PC's purchased toward the end of last year (October) when Vista was nearing completion did get Vista for free when it was released at the end of January.

*£10 delivery charge.

Apparently trying to actually get the "free" upgrade was a bit of a nightmare.

http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=27578.0 (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=27578.0)

For some reason, I never bothered to get it.  ::)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: justin1278 on November 15, 2007, 04:22:59 AM
*£10 delivery charge.

Apparently trying to actually get the "free" upgrade was a bit of a nightmare.

http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=27578.0 (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=27578.0)

For some reason, I never bothered to get it.  ::)

I believe it depends on the PC manufacturer. Sony was not charging shipping for the free upgrade I heard.
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: FreewheelinFrank on November 15, 2007, 09:10:14 AM
*£10 delivery charge.

Apparently trying to actually get the "free" upgrade was a bit of a nightmare.

http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=27578.0 (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=27578.0)

For some reason, I never bothered to get it.  ::)

I believe it depends on the PC manufacturer. Sony was not charging shipping for the free upgrade I heard.

The Manufacturer's site directed me to a MS site.
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: shgoh on November 21, 2007, 12:44:03 AM
My 1st CD burning on my Mac failed with an error code! I thought it's supposed to be easy? Did you guys use any external burning software?

One more thing, any good privacy cleaner (like ccleaner for Windows) on Mac that can clear browser history, recent playlists, recent folders in Finder etc?
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on November 21, 2007, 01:13:38 AM
Oh I'm sure you'll have a lot more "trouble" than just this... it's because you're used of doing things the Windows way. Once you completely start thinking "Apple" you'll see how everything is actually easy... a lot easier than on Windows.

I burn my CDs/DVDs using built-in Disk Utility (Applications/Utilities) or simply by dragging/dropping files/folders onto the CD/DVD icon followed by clicking BURN. Never failed here...
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on November 21, 2007, 04:40:06 AM
You can burn Discs as Sasha said but i Like Roxio's Toast software
http://www.toast.com

If Toast is a little too much for you there are other great burning apps like this one:
http://www.radicalbreeze.com/blaze/index.shtml

I used DiscBlaze for quite a while before I got Toast.

The Freeware SimplyBurns is another widely used app but ive never tried it
http://simplyburns.berlios.de/

Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: shgoh on November 21, 2007, 12:05:02 PM
Thanks guys, but how about a privacy cleaner (like ccleaner for Windows) on Mac that can clear browser history, recent playlists, recent folders in Finder etc? ???
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: bob3160 on November 22, 2007, 03:25:08 PM
All Mac - Mostly Free (http://macrecon.com/software/)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on November 22, 2007, 05:00:30 PM
Thanks Bob this is a wonderful find !
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: bob3160 on November 22, 2007, 05:17:17 PM
Thanks Bob this is a wonderful find !
Just don't tell Kyle.... :) ;D :)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on November 23, 2007, 03:48:36 PM
Hahaha...

Pssssst... KYLE!... pssssst... pssst KYLE !... pssst... KYLE !

Take a look in here... Kyle! here!
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: shgoh on November 24, 2007, 01:09:49 AM
Thanks guys, but how about a privacy cleaner (like ccleaner for Windows) on Mac that can clear browser history, recent playlists, recent folders in Finder etc? ???

Can someone comment on this please??? ???
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on November 24, 2007, 02:55:02 AM
Hahaha...

Pssssst... KYLE!... pssssst... pssst KYLE !... pssst... KYLE !

Take a look in here... Kyle! here!

Yeah i see ;D
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Can someone comment on this please???

Well there is OnyX that offers Cache cleaning and other performance optimizations. Use my lots of Mac users
http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/system_disk_utilities/onyx.html

Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on November 24, 2007, 03:02:14 PM
You just have to tell him that version 1.8.3 is just for Tiger and it doesn't work on Leopard. He will need to wait for version 1.8.4 which is Leopard compatible, and right now there is only version 1.8.4b (Beta, use at your own risk).

See here:

http://www.titanium.free.fr/pgs2/english/download.html (http://www.titanium.free.fr/pgs2/english/download.html)

I personally would wait for final release because I've heard some people had some problems with this beta release.
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: shgoh on November 26, 2007, 07:17:33 PM
Thanks guys! ;D
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: shgoh on December 03, 2007, 05:48:00 AM
Oh yea, why is bittorrent client downloading so slowly on Mac OS X? ???

By the way...I love your avatar Sasha! ;D
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on December 03, 2007, 06:02:23 AM
Hmmm... not sure why is that happening on your end. Maybe some setting needs to be tweaked or something ?

I use Transmission... uTorrent for Mac is still not out, so I use that one. Haven't noticed any slowdowns comparing to my Windows torrenting.

http://transmission.m0k.org (http://transmission.m0k.org)

Hehe, like my avatar ? It's not 100% precise but it's 100x100 pixels anyway, so I didn't have to pay attention to details that much.
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on December 04, 2007, 04:49:39 PM
Ive been using azureus for quite some time and see no diffence in speed between Windows, Mac  or Linux
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: shgoh on February 27, 2008, 07:08:27 AM
After having my iMac for some time, just thought of sharing my desktop with you guys! 8)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on February 27, 2008, 01:39:20 PM
After having my iMac for some time, just thought of sharing my desktop with you guys! 8)

Nice and I see you also have an iPhone or iPod Touch

FYI Apple Released New MacBooks and MacBookPros on Tuesday
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on February 27, 2008, 01:39:29 PM
Great one shgoh!

Here is mine (back then when I was still running Tiger):

Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on February 27, 2008, 01:44:02 PM
Hey Kyle,

My Book (made using iPhoto) is here. Lady from FeDex called me last night and I am about to leave my apartment for work, but on my way I'll stop and pick it up. I am so excited. Will post back how it looks like, but it will have to be after 7-8'ish tonight when I am back from work.
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: shgoh on February 28, 2008, 01:02:07 PM
yea...i've got an unlocked iphone! :P New mac books??! will check it up! btw...is macbook air good? any opinions?
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on February 29, 2008, 02:34:07 AM
yea...i've got an unlocked iphone! :P New mac books??! will check it up! btw...is macbook air good? any opinions?

Well the MacBookAir is excellent if you travel constantly. Otherwise the MacBook is cheaper and has better specs. Essentially you are paying for the portability (3.0lbs) on the Air. I have an iBook (the predecessor to the MacBook) and its very easy to carry around, but If I traveled for a living I would look at the Air.

Remember Air has no optical drive, and the battery is not user changeable (You Apple Service Provider or Retail store can change in just a few Minutes though in case of a defective battery, but thats useless on a long flight)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on February 29, 2008, 02:38:26 AM
Yes, AIR is super nice product except to me it looks more like something for showing off, rather than something that will make your work more productive.

I've already decided... New MacBook Pro is my next Apple purchase. Super powerful, super bad, not thin like AIR, but in the same time a lot thicker when it comes to features. That's what I'm looking for.
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on February 29, 2008, 05:23:03 AM
Yes, AIR is super nice product except to me it looks more like something for showing off, rather than something that will make your work more productive.

I've already decided... New MacBook Pro is my next Apple purchase. Super powerful, super bad, not thin like AIR, but in the same time a lot thicker when it comes to features. That's what I'm looking for.

Well Apple has been known to show off its engineering and design team from time to time. (MacBookAir, PowerMac G4 Cube, iMac G4)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on February 29, 2008, 12:36:29 PM
Yes, that's well known fact, but I sure don't mind it. They can show off because they really have something to show off. They are always ahead of their competition at least by a mile. Oh, what am I saying? When it comes to design, they simply don't have competition.

What I was trying to say was... I meant, those who are rushing to buy it. I strongly believe that new MacBook Pro, even new MacBook now are a lot better investment that the AIR one.
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on February 29, 2008, 01:53:21 PM
Yes, that's well known fact, but I sure don't mind it. They can show off because they really have something to show off. They are always ahead of their competition at least by a mile. Oh, what am I saying? When it comes to design, they simply don't have competition.

What I was trying to say was... I meant, those who are rushing to buy it. I strongly believe that new MacBook Pro, even new MacBook now are a lot better investment that the AIR one.
Yea, the MacBook is such a awesome machine, I just wish it had a better Graphics Card. The Intel IGP is fine for most things but when I boot into windows with boot camp I want to be able to play games. Of course the MacBook Pro has a stellar GPU but I prefer the smaller size of the MacBook.
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on February 29, 2008, 03:16:27 PM
Yup! That's few reasons there I don't want to go with MacBook even though it is a nice machine. First, I refuse to use anything less than 15.4" screen simply because viewable area on 13" is too small... resolution too. I need at least something like 15.4" to be able to decently work in all applications I use.

Yes, MacBook Pro's NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT with 256MB of GDDR3 memory and dual-link DVI makes this machine a little monster. Not to mention they come with 2 Gb and 200 or 250 Gb HDs. I simply love it.
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on March 02, 2008, 06:56:12 AM
Yup! That's few reasons there I don't want to go with MacBook even though it is a nice machine. First, I refuse to use anything less than 15.4" screen simply because viewable area on 13" is too small... resolution too. I need at least something like 15.4" to be able to decently work in all applications I use.

Yes, MacBook Pro's NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT with 256MB of GDDR3 memory and dual-link DVI makes this machine a little monster. Not to mention they come with 2 Gb and 200 or 250 Gb HDs. I simply love it.

Yeah its a nice Machine. Most likely going to Pick one up after the Warranty Expires on My iBook.
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: shgoh on March 10, 2008, 02:21:18 AM
my mighty mouse scroll stopped scrolling downwards...i guess there's dirt trapped in it...try a bit of a search online and realized it's a common problem...try cleaning it but in vain....any advices? ???
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on March 10, 2008, 04:25:49 AM
Unfortunately I have no advice for you my friend. I keep my mouse clean, cleaning it every day after I use it. Never had any problems with it... my mouse is not wireless, it is one of those hardwired ones (I prefer using wired ones) but that shouldn't have any difference.

Edit: I actually might have one advice... many of my co-workers found a wonderful solution. Buy any MS or Logitech mouse out there and you solved all your problems. Quality is superb, believe it or not, even if you go with cheapest $15 MS one. Apple Mighty mouse is something wonderful, but the only minus I would give it because it is not easily serviceable. Buying new one is pretty expensive if you ask me... There are a lot better solutions out there for even less money. I'm sure you felt it already on your own skin. Find one of those 5 button mouses so you can assign all actions to the buttons, just like on your mighty one.

If MS mouse gets dirty, all you need is to unscrew few screws and problem is solved in less than 5 minutes. One of the most popular one among all my Mac friends, is this one (Logitech)... little more expensive, but nothing performs like this one:

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/mice/devices/130&cl=us,en (http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/mice/devices/130&cl=us,en)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: shgoh on March 10, 2008, 09:14:49 AM
Thanks Sasha...buying a MS or Logitech mouse is definitely a good option!...only disadvantage is that it doesn't look as nice 8)...anyway...i think i have a 12 months warranty on the mighty mouse...so i'll see how it goes....
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: Hard_ROCKER on March 10, 2008, 11:23:30 AM
Personally i gave up on Logitech wireless mouses, had the MX 1000 and with all those problems with losing the signal sometimes and not wanting to re-charge(and i was not the only one with these probs), i dumped that rat and went with a good wired gaming mouse from RAZER and haven't regreted it. With Logitech it seems the cheap wired mouses(never ever had a problem with those cheap wired ones and i had ALOT of them) are more quality made than the expensive wireless ones, atleast that was my experience with them. My friend has the MX Revolution and he deeply regrets having bought that one. The upper scroll wheel is already kaput and he only bought the thing just 2 months ago.
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on March 10, 2008, 12:56:22 PM
Yes, like with everything else I guess. Some people like it and some not. I am not crazy about wireless mouses/keyboards either... don't want to constantly think if I have to recharge it, or it suddenly dies on me while I am in the middle of typing an urgent email... wire was never on my way anyway.

Shgoh, take a look in here:

http://koolinus.wordpress.com/2007/08/06/logitech-mx400-a-mighty-mouse-replacement (http://koolinus.wordpress.com/2007/08/06/logitech-mx400-a-mighty-mouse-replacement)

This guy is pretty happy with Logitech one Miha talked about, but why I posted this link is mostly because this guy mentioned some sheet-of-paper-mighty-mouse-upside-down cleaning method. Will not hurt to try it...

Anyway, like MIha pointed out, no matter how Logitech is good company, I would go with Razer or if you want with any Microsoft mouse. There is even one made with Apple users in mind:

http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/productdetails.aspx?pid=103 (http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/productdetails.aspx?pid=103)

And I simply adore this one:

http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/productdetails.aspx?pid=064 (http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/productdetails.aspx?pid=064)

Edit: Oh yes... I've heard that Apple is even selling Razer mouse in their retail stores. Reviews by people using it are very good and they seem pretty happy with this little more expensive digital rat.
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: Hard_ROCKER on March 10, 2008, 01:19:55 PM
Probably the best thing to do is to go to your local store and try out a few different mouses, see how they fit in your hand, try which one has the right sensitivity for you, being an addict gamer myself i prefer those high sensitivity mouses for my FPS needs(preferably from Razer or MS like Sash said). Point i am trying to make is, try before you buy.


EDIT:

@Sash: I was talking about the MX 1000 not the the MX 400, see here:

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/mice/devices/783&cl=gb,en (http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/mice/devices/783&cl=gb,en)

But you are right, the MX 400 is a great mouse. And it's cheap aswell. I use it on my linux rig and my neighbor uses it aswell. I can tell you that mine was thrown against the wall a few times, it's a little battered now but amazingly it still works great. The MX 518 is also a good one(so very good for gaming), but i still prefer Razer products.
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: Hard_ROCKER on March 10, 2008, 01:52:34 PM
Edit: Oh yes... I've heard that Apple is even selling Razer mouse in their retail stores. Reviews by people using it are very good and they seem pretty happy with this little more expensive digital rat.

Hey Sash, is this the Razer mouse you meant ?

http://www.razerzone.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=16 (http://www.razerzone.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=16)

Looks great to me and the colours are perfect for mac's. Not bad at all. The prices seem to be around the same as the Logitech MX 518.
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on March 10, 2008, 03:32:29 PM
Yes, that's exactly what they are selling at Apple stores. The only problem I still couldn't find anything Razer in Canadian Apple stores... at least not yet.

Here is Apple USA page:

http://www.apple.com/games/gettingstarted/peripherals/index3.html (http://www.apple.com/games/gettingstarted/peripherals/index3.html)

The price is super affordable as well... the only problem is that if you click on the image, it says that product is currently not available at stores... not sure why.

Here is another thing you can buy at Apple Canada stores... as strange as it may sound, Apple sells this Microsoft mouse and it sells pretty good. Price is little bit over the top, but hey... it's quality is something to talk about.

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/canadastore.woa/wa/RSLID?mco=7E50163B&nplm=TM970VC/A (http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/canadastore.woa/wa/RSLID?mco=7E50163B&nplm=TM970VC/A)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: bob3160 on March 10, 2008, 03:59:21 PM
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The only problem I still couldn't find anything Razer in Canadian Apple stores... at least not yet.
Why not buy your stuff "on line".
The prices have to be better than buying it from an Apple store.  :)
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: .: Mac :. on March 10, 2008, 04:42:57 PM
Usually if you have owned the mighty mouse less than a year your Apple Store will exchange it for a new one.
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on March 10, 2008, 09:39:17 PM
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The only problem I still couldn't find anything Razer in Canadian Apple stores... at least not yet.
Why not buy your stuff "on line".
The prices have to be better than buying it from an Apple store.  :)

Well, this one is easy... just because I hate waiting for the stuff to be shipped over here. I rather pay some extra and get it same moment, than waiting few days. Usually it ends in pulling my hair out, LOL.  ;D

I waited 4-5 days for my book I've created in iPhoto to be shipped from California, and I almost went gray  ;D
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: shgoh on March 11, 2008, 01:28:01 AM
Yea...Razer mouse would be cool!...i used to have one for my desktop...and currently i have a razer mouse pad for my imac 8)...i think i would consider a razer mouse after my mighty mouse warranty runs out!
Title: Re: Apple released all new iMac
Post by: szc on March 11, 2008, 04:13:35 PM
Good news for Canadians interested in buying a Razer DeathAdder Gaming Mouse - Black. It's available at Best Buy stores and best of all, take a look at its price. Regular price is $79.99 and now it's on sale... $49.99 after $30 instant rebate (means you get it $30 off at the spot).

http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0926INGFS10097083&catid=20390 (http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0926INGFS10097083&catid=20390)