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Title: Avast hasn't improved detecting the number of malware count against Comodo AV
Post by: SpeedyPC on December 18, 2010, 10:36:17 AM
Please don't have a go at me just because I'm a Comodo fanboy and I'm still using Avast AV free version okay ;D, Avast hasn't improved detecting the number of malware count against Comodo AV see for yourself and you judge for yourself Avast.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRreh8G4bLw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRreh8G4bLw) Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbtdeIFcTfc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbtdeIFcTfc) Part 2

I'm getting a bit worried about Avast :'( hasn't improved detecting the number of malware count against Comodo AV review between Comodo and some other AVs against the FREE version.
Title: Re: Avast hasn't improved detecting the number of malware count against Comodo AV
Post by: BJ_GeOrgE on December 18, 2010, 03:43:11 PM
i'm not gonna have a go with you because youre a comodo fanboy..i like comodo too(their firewall at least)..the problem with the detection test you show us is that first of all the avast is in beta version(he uses avast 5.1.822).secondly you can never know if thats a fraud.for example he can use 7.000malware and add 3.000 clean files and say that this folder contains 10.000 malware..then scans with avast and finds a percentage..then he adds 10.000 malwares and no clean files and scans with comodo etc.
dont get me wrong i'm not saying that this is a fraud i just say you cant know for sure if its a legitimate test..i dont know if comodo av can detect more than avast and i think that depends on the personal opinion of each user and the personal "tests" we run at home,because of the fact that there is no official test including both of them in it..maybe if av-comparatives adds comodo in its tests then we will have a clearer image but untill then use the av that suits you most(according to your needs and usage).. ;)
Title: Re: Avast hasn't improved detecting the number of malware count against Comodo AV
Post by: essexboy on December 18, 2010, 03:51:55 PM
Numbers are for statisticians - what really counts is the types of malware killed.  So if eight variants have just one name with Avast who cares ? Not I
Title: Re: Avast hasn't improved detecting the number of malware count against Comodo AV
Post by: bob3160 on December 18, 2010, 04:01:08 PM
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maybe if av-comparatives adds comodo in its tests then we will have a clearer image
I believe the choice to be included or not is also up to the Company.
So, why isn't Comodo included ???
Title: Re: Avast hasn't improved detecting the number of malware count against Comodo AV
Post by: SpeedyPC on December 18, 2010, 04:02:49 PM
While I was watching it and I fully realise about 60% is crap! showing the Comodo test why? they scan it twice :o during test.
Title: Re: Avast hasn't improved detecting the number of malware count against Comodo AV
Post by: bob3160 on December 18, 2010, 04:05:07 PM
While I was watching it and I fully realise about 60% is crap! showing the Comodo test why? they scan it twice :o during test.
You mean why did it miss those 500 plus infections in the first scan .  :o
Title: Re: Avast hasn't improved detecting the number of malware count against Comodo AV
Post by: BJ_GeOrgE on December 18, 2010, 08:06:26 PM
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maybe if av-comparatives adds comodo in its tests then we will have a clearer image
I believe the choice to be included or not is also up to the Company.
So, why isn't Comodo included ???
maybe they dont feel ready yet.havent tried it though so i cant say anything about its performance..
Title: Re: Avast hasn't improved detecting the number of malware count against Comodo AV
Post by: Brandonn2010 on December 19, 2010, 01:43:46 AM
Comodo may do well on YouTube tests, but most more professional reviews says it has a bad antivirus, and Def+ leaves it up to the user which usually isn't a good thing.
Title: Re: Avast hasn't improved detecting the number of malware count against Comodo AV
Post by: origwildman on December 20, 2010, 07:18:54 PM
Any time I look at these type of posts I must ask is the test(S) being done truly without bias, if there is any advertisement for any type of security products a big red flag goes up for me. Also what type of baddies are being identified in these tests. Nope the bottom line is a simple one, do the security products I have installed on my machine provide me with the protection I desire. What works well for me may not work at all for you, it is a matter of personal choice. Over the years I have tried all the FREE virus protection software and some have done a better job for me than have others. Currently using AVAST because AVIRA messed up my SpywareBlaster.

Thanks
origwildman
  
Title: Re: Avast hasn't improved detecting the number of malware count against Comodo AV
Post by: Dwarden on December 21, 2010, 01:40:27 AM
what makes it interesting

why this person not alter settions for the scanner from windows explorer?

he adjusted File System Shield which is something else

the crucial one is
Scan Computer > Scan now > Scan from Windows Explorer > Sensitivity

seems like playing tricky tricks with results here we are :)
Title: Re: Avast hasn't improved detecting the number of malware count against Comodo AV
Post by: nsm0220 on December 21, 2010, 04:50:09 AM
keep this up avast will be removed from gdata in no time and comodo is not bad it better than avast
Title: Re: Avast hasn't improved detecting the number of malware count against Comodo AV
Post by: Vladimyr on December 21, 2010, 05:54:08 AM
Hi SpeedyPC
How you title your post is up to you, but to me there's more than enough criticism of these so-called "tests" on the Comodo forum  ::) http://forums.comodo.com/news-announcements-feedback-cis/comodo-av-10k-samples-test-t66531.0.html to make me think twice about using such a provocative heading. (Unless of course you are hoping for a hostile response ;D)

I tried the latest CIS (again) a couple of months ago just because 'Tech' was talking about it. It was so good at finding malware... it blocked over 100 safe files! ???
Title: Re: Avast hasn't improved detecting the number of malware count against Comodo AV
Post by: SpeedyPC on December 21, 2010, 06:21:45 AM
Hi SpeedyPC
How you title your post is up to you, but to me there's more than enough criticism of these so-called "tests" on the Comodo forum  ::) http://forums.comodo.com/news-announcements-feedback-cis/comodo-av-10k-samples-test-t66531.0.html to make me think twice about using such a provocative heading. (Unless of course you are hoping for a hostile response ;D)

I tried the latest CIS (again) a couple of months ago just because 'Tech' was talking about it. It was so good at finding malware... it blocked over 100 safe files! ???

I'm only question about the Avast AV not Comodo AV, Vladimyr and I wouldn't even touch the Comodo AV with a 10 foot pole for the next 2 years and beside Avast has been in the AV security business longer then Comodo.

Vladimyr IF Comodo has beaten Avast in their overall detection rate in their free product by the av-comparatives and ICSA Labs test, and this could lead to a worry against Avast. Also I'm not looking for a hostile response I just wanted to make sure Avast is keeping them selfs in the lead.
Title: Re: Avast hasn't improved detecting the number of malware count against Comodo AV
Post by: Vladimyr on December 21, 2010, 06:31:09 AM
Definition: 10 foot pole = expendable PC  ;)
Title: Re: Avast hasn't improved detecting the number of malware count against Comodo AV
Post by: Lisandro on December 21, 2010, 11:56:00 AM
I tried the latest CIS (again) a couple of months ago just because 'Tech' was talking about it. It was so good at finding malware... it blocked over 100 safe files! ???
Sorry. But I think I've only advocated for better protection by the so-called "deny all" policy from Comodo.
After all, the Behavior Shield of version 5.1 (passive) and 6 (active) will try to fill this feature.
The clean files blocked seem to be blocked by the autosandbox and not by the antivirus.
Comodo software development is going very slow.
I'm really disappointed of what they did with Comodo Time Machine.
Title: Re: Avast hasn't improved detecting the number of malware count against Comodo AV
Post by: SpeedyPC on December 21, 2010, 01:09:42 PM

Comodo software development is going very slow.


+1 :-[ :-\ :o



I'm really disappointed of what they did with Comodo Time Machine.


Off the Topic:- What happen Tech did your PC got kill really bad :'( lucky for me I would never touch this and it really did mess up with friend PC when I helped him out reformatting the whole HD :'( :'(
Title: Re: Avast hasn't improved detecting the number of malware count against Comodo AV
Post by: Vladimyr on December 21, 2010, 02:19:25 PM
I tried the latest CIS (again) a couple of months ago just because 'Tech' was talking about it. It was so good at finding malware... it blocked over 100 safe files! ???
Sorry. But I think I've only advocated for better protection by the so-called "deny all" policy from Comodo.
After all, the Behavior Shield of version 5.1 (passive) and 6 (active) will try to fill this feature.
The clean files blocked seem to be blocked by the autosandbox and not by the antivirus.
Comodo software development is going very slow.
I'm really disappointed of what they did with Comodo Time Machine.
No need to apologize Tech. I did it for the adventure! ;D
Title: Re: Avast hasn't improved detecting the number of malware count against Comodo AV
Post by: YoKenny on December 21, 2010, 02:35:41 PM
Definition: 10 foot pole = expendable PC  ;)
;D

Comodo software development is going very slow.


+1 :-[ :-\ :o



I'm really disappointed of what they did with Comodo Time Machine.


Off the Topic:- What happen Tech did your PC got kill really bad :'( luck for me I would never touch this and it really did mess up with friend PC when I helped him out reformatting the whole HD :'( :'(
No wonder I do not use Comodo!
Title: Re: Avast hasn't improved detecting the number of malware count against Comodo AV
Post by: Vladimyr on December 21, 2010, 03:23:39 PM
Off Topic... but, speaking of poles.

Having been invited to visit the Olympic venue in Sydney in 2000, as I walked through the "Athletes Village" a man dressed in a lycra bodysuit and carrying a long pole walked towards me. "Are you a pole vaulter?" I asked.
"No. I'm German." he said, "But how did you know my name is Walter?"
Title: Re: Avast hasn't improved detecting the number of malware count against Comodo AV
Post by: Xeolyte on December 21, 2010, 08:04:36 PM
I use the Comodo Firewall but not the Defense+. Defense+ requires informed decisions and sometimes even informed decisions are not enough to make the right choice. I think  Melih's original premise was to make anti-virus obsolete. I gave it a try, but the software was forever in "school" and became so annoying "learning" that I disabled it.

It has always been my policy never to use software that combines anti-virus and firewall together for the reason that it's very easy for hackers to disable both at the same time. The best firewall in the world in my opinion used to be AtGuard (I miss it terribly and was begging the authors along with other users to make it XP compatible). It was straight forward and virtually idiot proof.

Since I'm not up to 20:

Black Ice – Built 1/5/09 - Corsair (4 x 2GB Memory) - Corsair Power Supply - Intel core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz CPU - Zalman 2 Ball CPU Cooler - MSI Platinum ATX Intel MB - 4-HD 250GB – SATA - Saitek Eclipse II Keyboard (back lit! for working in the dark) - Sapphire Radeon Video Card – Dual Boot – XP Pro – Win 7 32 - Comodo Firewall – Avast Anti-Virus
Title: Re: Avast hasn't improved detecting the number of malware count against Comodo AV
Post by: Darth.Mikey on December 22, 2010, 12:25:27 AM
Hmmm Xeolyte ?

If i am reading your system specs correctly, you have 8gb of ram right ? Why run 32bit OSes on that system then ? Just wondering...
Title: Re: Avast hasn't improved detecting the number of malware count against Comodo AV
Post by: Lisandro on December 22, 2010, 12:41:07 AM
I use the Comodo Firewall but not the Defense+. Defense+ requires informed decisions and sometimes even informed decisions are not enough to make the right choice. I think  Melih's original premise was to make anti-virus obsolete. I gave it a try, but the software was forever in "school" and became so annoying "learning" that I disabled it.
That's the HIPS heritage... ::)
Title: Re: Avast hasn't improved detecting the number of malware count against Comodo AV
Post by: nsm0220 on December 22, 2010, 01:47:09 AM
you guys need a better hips and anti virus. your anti virus did not did good

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5POyE8_FVA
Title: Re: Avast hasn't improved detecting the number of malware count against Comodo AV
Post by: Vladimyr on December 22, 2010, 02:32:57 AM
keep this up avast will be removed from gdata in no time and comodo is not bad it better than avast
you guys need a better hips and anti virus. your anti virus did not did good

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5POyE8_FVA

Keep this up... and maybe someone will eventually take the bait.
Title: Re: Avast hasn't improved detecting the number of malware count against Comodo AV
Post by: Gargamel360 on December 22, 2010, 03:03:45 AM
Keep this up... and maybe someone will eventually take the bait.
Can I bite?

you guys need a better hips and anti virus. your anti virus did not did good
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5POyE8_FVA
....words fail...see attachment
Title: Re: Avast hasn't improved detecting the number of malware count against Comodo AV
Post by: Marc57 on December 22, 2010, 03:10:48 AM
All these videos are good for is a good laugh. These guys have no freaking idea what they're doing. The guy in the first video (with the 10,000 malware) couldn't figure out why he was having trouble moving all those files to the chest. Maybe it was because the chest was full?? Maybe the next time you're going to test THAT many files, You might want to increase the amount of space the chest can use.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/marc57/5lardh.gif)


I'll bite also.

you guys need a better hips and anti virus. your anti virus did not did good

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5POyE8_FVA

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/marc57/huh.gif)  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/marc57/Iconfused.gif)
Title: Re: Avast hasn't improved detecting the number of malware count against Comodo AV
Post by: Llanziel on December 22, 2010, 05:37:39 AM
I tried CIS 5. Is good, but its false positives are many. Its sandbox is too intrusive, they need to add more trusted signatures to their whitelist and improved it. Really It caused me headache, i chose NOT sandbox again, and it continued sandboxing tha same aplication. The only thing that make its protection good is the Defense+.

avast! have better virus database than Comodo.

Edit: I still prefer avast!
Title: Re: Avast hasn't improved detecting the number of malware count against Comodo AV
Post by: nsm0220 on December 22, 2010, 07:41:19 AM
all anti virus haves a fp or 2
Title: Re: Avast hasn't improved detecting the number of malware count against Comodo AV
Post by: yongsua on December 22, 2010, 07:47:07 AM
all anti virus haves a fp or 2

Ya,you are right.But if too many FP's is just too bad,just like Panda and Trustport.
Title: Re: Avast hasn't improved detecting the number of malware count against Comodo AV
Post by: nsm0220 on December 22, 2010, 08:02:33 AM
panda haves less fb than Trustport
Title: Re: Avast hasn't improved detecting the number of malware count against Comodo AV
Post by: yongsua on December 22, 2010, 08:04:56 AM
you guys need a better hips and anti virus. your anti virus did not did good

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5POyE8_FVA

Why did they test the BETA version?It is just ridiculous. ???
Title: Re: Avast hasn't improved detecting the number of malware count against Comodo AV
Post by: nsm0220 on December 22, 2010, 08:14:42 AM
in the 5.0.594 version, it did worse in tests http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjFO1u7oxA8 it let 2 rootkits in
his pc
Title: Re: Avast hasn't improved detecting the number of malware count against Comodo AV
Post by: yongsua on December 22, 2010, 08:21:45 AM
in the 5.0.594 version, it did worse in tests http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjFO1u7oxA8 it let 2 rootkits in
his pc


Maybe he can use the version of 5.0.677 to test again.As you know,there is no 100% perfect antivirus.
Title: Re: Avast hasn't improved detecting the number of malware count against Comodo AV
Post by: SpeedyPC on December 22, 2010, 10:09:47 AM
Could somebody please LOCK this thread it getting a bit out of hand, I believe we've all have covered enough details about this topic.

Thank you.

Title: Re: Avast hasn't improved detecting the number of malware count against Comodo AV
Post by: yongsua on December 22, 2010, 10:21:30 AM
Could somebody please LOCK this thread it getting a bit out of hand, I believe we've all have covered enough details about this topic.

Thank you.



+1
Title: Re: Avast hasn't improved detecting the number of malware count against Comodo AV
Post by: logos on December 22, 2010, 10:59:17 AM
@nsm0220 if you got something else in mind, I mean other than bashing Avast in all your posts - and when I say all I mean all - just let us know ;D I mean obviously that's the only reason why you're here, this bashing, you're bored or what? I mean if you don't like the product (which is your damned right), why coming here at all? you think you're helping anyone? :D
Title: Re: Avast hasn't improved detecting the number of malware count against Comodo AV
Post by: logos on December 22, 2010, 11:00:03 AM
Could somebody please LOCK this thread it getting a bit out of hand, I believe we've all have covered enough details about this topic.

Thank you.



I agree
Title: Re: Avast hasn't improved detecting the number of malware count against Comodo AV
Post by: yongsua on December 22, 2010, 11:15:34 AM
@nsm0220 if you got something else in mind, I mean other than bashing Avast in all your posts - and when I say all I mean all - just let us know ;D I mean obviously that's the only reason why you're here, this bashing, you're bored or what? I mean if you don't like the product (which is your damned right), why coming here at all? you think you're helping anyone? :D

If I am not wrong,I think he just come here and learn form everyone.I don't know why he keep on bashing Avast!Besides,I only know that he is using GDATA currently,maybe he don't encourages Avast! to works with Gdata and wants another replacement.I am so sorry to you nsm0220 if i had already offended or misunderstood you.
Title: Re: Avast hasn't improved detecting the number of malware count against Comodo AV
Post by: Llanziel on December 22, 2010, 05:46:28 PM
Could somebody please LOCK this thread it getting a bit out of hand, I believe we've all have covered enough details about this topic.

Thank you.



I agree


I hit a search in the avast! Help section and found this:

Modifying or Deleting a Post

To modify a post, click the Modify button and make your changes. Note that most forums are likely to be configured to show the date and time of the last edit, but the administrator(s) may also allow a short period to elapse before this happens.

To delete a post, click the Delete button followed by OK from the Remove this message? box that appears. Some forums may also allow you to remove topics or polls that you start, but the buttons for these are usually at the bottom of the page.

http://forum.avast.com/index.php?action=help;page=post

Sincerely, I never see this box when I'm the autor of the topic.
Title: Re: Avast hasn't improved detecting the number of malware count against Comodo AV
Post by: Altarir. on December 22, 2010, 07:18:50 PM
Sincerely, I never see this box when I'm the autor of the topic.

deleting 3-page topic would be epic. epic fail, that is

Could somebody please LOCK this thread it getting a bit out of hand, I believe we've all have covered enough details about this topic.

Thank you.

blocking nsm0220 would be a lot more effective
Title: Re: Avast hasn't improved detecting the number of malware count against Comodo AV
Post by: nsm0220 on December 22, 2010, 07:54:36 PM
@nsm0220 if you got something else in mind, I mean other than bashing Avast in all your posts - and when I say all I mean all - just let us know ;D I mean obviously that's the only reason why you're here, this bashing, you're bored or what? I mean if you don't like the product (which is your damned right), why coming here at all? you think you're helping anyone? :D

If I am not wrong,I think he just come here and learn form everyone.I don't know why he keep on bashing Avast!Besides,I only know that he is using GDATA currently,maybe he don't encourages Avast! to works with Gdata and wants another replacement.I am so sorry to you nsm0220 if i had already offended or misunderstood you.

the apology is ok 
Title: Re: Avast hasn't improved detecting the number of malware count against Comodo AV
Post by: nsm0220 on December 22, 2010, 08:01:00 PM
Sincerely, I never see this box when I'm the autor of the topic.

deleting 3-page topic would be epic. epic fail, that is

Could somebody please LOCK this thread it getting a bit out of hand, I believe we've all have covered enough details about this topic.

Thank you.

blocking nsm0220 would be a lot more effective

stay out of this Altarir.
Title: Re: Avast hasn't improved detecting the number of malware count against Comodo AV
Post by: Altarir. on December 22, 2010, 08:06:48 PM
stay out of this Altarir.

improving the way you troll will do you a lot of good

unconstructive critism of avast is old as hell. try something better
Title: Re: Avast hasn't improved detecting the number of malware count against Comodo AV
Post by: Vlk on December 22, 2010, 09:10:42 PM
I guess the original topic of this thread has been exhausted - and I'm thus closing it.