Avast WEBforum

Other => General Topics => Topic started by: Yanto.Chiang on March 12, 2011, 03:40:28 AM

Title: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: Yanto.Chiang on March 12, 2011, 03:40:28 AM
Dear All Japan's evangelist and others,

We are feel condolence for this tragedy, May God keep your family more stronger to face this tragedy.


Cheers,
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: nmb on March 12, 2011, 03:46:31 AM
Yes,

A bad day for many.  I hope they recover from this soon.

There was a alert to your country too, isn't it yanto? How is everything there?
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: NON on March 12, 2011, 10:06:35 AM
Hello everyone,

Thanks to my god and all of you, I'm alive.

I heard this tsunami also attacks Hawaii, California and some other countries. I hope all people affected to this earthquake / tsunami survive too.

NON
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: Asyn on March 12, 2011, 10:17:15 AM
Hello everyone,

Thanks to my god and all of you, I'm alive.

Hi NON,
I just heard that there was an explosion (reactor block) in Fukushima..!! :(
Be sure to get some iodine tablets..!
All the best to you and the people in Japan..!!!
asyn
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: bob3160 on March 12, 2011, 01:28:47 PM
Some devastating pictures (http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Huge-Japan-quake-spawns-tsunami/ss/events/wl/031111japanquake;_ylt=AllQbvh1eMDXWBFF6IGqqe1v24cA;_ylu=X3oDMTFlMmRvMXJiBHBvcwM0BHNlYwN5bl9yXzNzbG90X3NsaWRlc2hvdwRzbGsDc2xpLWV2LWxpbms-#photoViewer=/110312/481/urn_publicid_ap_org9e1ab6337a924eb5b12a38dfc7dc4172)

Sad to hear that things aren't getting better but still declining.
A nuclear disaster isn't something any one needs to go through.  :'(
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: YoKenny on March 12, 2011, 01:39:08 PM
The most disturbing news:
Blast destroys part of Japan nuclear plant
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/03/12/earthquake-japan-nuclear-explosion.html
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: NON on March 12, 2011, 01:50:52 PM
According to the announcement from government just now, the core is still unharmed though there is some sign of meltdown.
Now they're trying to cool it with sea water and radiation level seems decreasing.

I'm on Sendai, Miyagi, but fortunately tsunami didn't reach to my block and electricity and water supply is back now.
I can see some near-coast cities are nearly disappear... :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: Asyn on March 12, 2011, 04:46:56 PM
According to the announcement from government just now, the core is still unharmed though there is some sign of meltdown.
Now they're trying to cool it with sea water and radiation level seems decreasing.

Please don't believe this..!! :(
I've contacts to IAEA in Vienna, they see the situation much more critical..!!!
Please get those iodine tablets for you and your family..!!!
asyn
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: Charyb on March 12, 2011, 04:54:45 PM
Earthquake, tsunami, and a possible nuclear disaster. What an overwhelming feeling. I hope the international community throws as much money and people at this as possible to help these folks out.
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: NON on March 12, 2011, 05:55:43 PM
According to the announcement from government just now, the core is still unharmed though there is some sign of meltdown.
Now they're trying to cool it with sea water and radiation level seems decreasing.

Please don't believe this..!! :(
I've contacts to IAEA in Vienna, they see the situation much more critical..!!!
:( :( :(

Then there must be some kind of news blackout...
AFAIK no Japanese TV station aired the plant explosion movie, I only see it on the Internet. We can see some pictures after explosion though.

Currently, evacuation radius is enlarged to 20km and some cesium was detected in the plant site.
Fortunately there is 100km intervals between plant and here, but seems we should have extreme caution. :(

Now here is nearly AM 2:00. I hope this will not become worse more...
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: BJ_GeOrgE on March 12, 2011, 06:56:08 PM
my condolences to japan and its people and wish you this disaster to be as less horrible as it can be..lets hope the number of dead people will stop rising soon..well here the news say that the explosion of the nuclear plant is much lower in danger level than in tsernobil or pensylvania..though some radiation has been leaked but now seems to be decreasing and has been detected in 3 people who were tested in a hospital..also according to what japanese president said(at least thats what they said in the news here) the radiation level near the nuclear plant is in the highest approved level..

Non take care you and your family and use any precaution for the radiation as you never know whats the truth about that and it doesnt worth the risk
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: Asyn on March 12, 2011, 07:28:26 PM
Fortunately there is 100km intervals between plant and here, but seems we should have extreme caution. :(

Sorry, that I have to tell you that 100km is way too close to be safe. :(
If you have the possibility, go away there asap..!!
If not, get/take those tablets, keep everything closed as good as you can and watch the weather report..!!
Good luck, :-\
asyn
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: Lisandro on March 12, 2011, 07:40:25 PM
Hope people get together to help.
My condolences to the victims families.
May God comfort you in such tragedy.
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: MAG on March 12, 2011, 09:12:04 PM
Fortunately there is 100km intervals between plant and here, but seems we should have extreme caution. :(

Sorry, that I have to tell you that 100km is way too close to be safe. :(
If you have the possibility, go away there asap..!!
If not, get/take those tablets, keep everything closed as good as you can and watch the weather report..!!
Good luck, :-\
asyn

I really hope that is an overreaction.

I haven't heard any reliable information so far to be able to judge, but it is at least beginning to sound more like any release is essentially over. Lets all hope so.

My sympathy goes to all those affected.
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: sarojg on March 12, 2011, 09:24:17 PM
My condolences to Japan as well... I can't even imagine what this must be like for them... truly horrifying.  God bless the survivors and responders to deal as well as possible in very difficult circumstances.

As far as the U.S. goes, 2 people were washed out to sea and not rescued because they stupidly put themselves in harm's way; there was a lot of damage to a few harbors on the west coast... but we're talking nits compared to the monstrous tragedy in Japan... that doesn't stop the U.S. major news orgs totally focusing on "what if" scenarios for the U.S. populations and censoring the news from Japan.  Much more accurate news on the internet and it is truly horrifying.
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: Hermite15 on March 12, 2011, 09:27:43 PM
the government there might be attempting to avoid a general panic, and that's understandable. But still this is not Russia in the 80's... Japan is a democracy and from what I read the authorities are doing their best to help and protect. This said yes, the nuclear situation is absolutely critical, this has been unfortunately confirmed by several analysts on most major channels, CNN, Reuters etc...
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: Asyn on March 12, 2011, 09:50:15 PM
I really hope that is an overreaction.

Honestly, I hope that, too..!!! But from what I know, it isn't. :(

...that doesn't stop the U.S. major news orgs totally focusing on "what if" scenarios for the U.S. populations and censoring the news from Japan.

Censoring..!!?? Why..??? :o
Btw, it seems Japan is also censoring. :(
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: Hermite15 on March 12, 2011, 09:58:56 PM
lol there's no censorship, especially on US channels ::)... why would they censor anything from Japan, and what would they censor... take a look at CNN "iReport" web site or Citizen tube, these sites are full of raw videos coming over from anywhere in the world, videos that will be published or not, but will remain accessible in any case.

 This said there's little - public - info from Japan itself on the actual nuclear situation. But this doesn't stop them, the Japanese, to already collaborate very closely with the US - yes right now - in order to avoid a disaster. The US has already sent stuff to cool the reactors, or at least attempt to. And once again there's no need to pour oil and stigmatize the US (or Japan) by inventing stories ::)
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: YoKenny on March 12, 2011, 11:45:50 PM
Look at Google's Resources related to the Japanese earthquake and tsunami.
http://www.google.com/crisisresponse/japanquake2011.html

Headline on CNN:
Japan races to tame nuclear plant, find survivors
Report: Half of town is missing

http://www.cnn.com
Japan struggles with nuclear reactors in wake of quake
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/03/12/japan.nuclear/index.html?hpt=T1 <== videos
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: NON on March 13, 2011, 05:17:01 AM
The Japan Meteorological Agency corrected the scale of the earthquake: Magnitude 8.8 to 9.0.
And the agency also predicted that aftershock which is over magnitude 7 would happen at 70% possibility.

Another meltdown possibility at Fukushima Daiichi plant No.3 reactor, and trying to cool it now.

Got worse... :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: SafeSurf on March 13, 2011, 08:13:18 AM
there's no censorship, especially on US channels
That's a joke!  Most of the channels are owned by a few companies, so there is major censorship.  Thanks goodness we get international news to get the real stories.  Things are slightly better now with the current Administration, but we have a long way to go!
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: osants911 on March 13, 2011, 08:23:45 AM
Another meltdown possibility at Fukushima Daiichi plant No.3 reactor, and trying to cool it now.


They are now started to cooling it down using sea water.
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: Dim@rik on March 13, 2011, 08:27:41 AM
Hello everyone,

Thanks to my god and all of you, I'm alive.

I heard this tsunami also attacks Hawaii, California and some other countries. I hope all people affected to this earthquake / tsunami survive too.

NON

Храни Вас Бог - God bless you.
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: Dim@rik on March 13, 2011, 08:29:46 AM
Some devastating pictures (http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Huge-Japan-quake-spawns-tsunami/ss/events/wl/031111japanquake;_ylt=AllQbvh1eMDXWBFF6IGqqe1v24cA;_ylu=X3oDMTFlMmRvMXJiBHBvcwM0BHNlYwN5bl9yXzNzbG90X3NsaWRlc2hvdwRzbGsDc2xpLWV2LWxpbms-#photoViewer=/110312/481/urn_publicid_ap_org9e1ab6337a924eb5b12a38dfc7dc4172)

Sad to hear that things aren't getting better but still declining.
A nuclear disaster isn't something any one needs to go through.  :'(

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2011/03/massive_earthquake_hits_japan.html
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: SafeSurf on March 13, 2011, 08:40:53 AM
@ NON and everyone else in Japan, we are all thinking of you and wishing the best.
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: osants911 on March 13, 2011, 08:45:47 AM
My deepest condolences to the victims and the people of Japan.  :'(
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: Tarq57 on March 13, 2011, 08:55:01 AM
Some balance, folks.

The media love melodrama. At times, watching the various commentaries about this, I have felt the distinct impression that they would actually like a meltdown (or worse) to happen.

The reactors went into emergency shut-down as a result of the earthquake; a design feature in case of serious damage.
As a result, the power they had been supplying to the grid was no longer present (of course) and the power supply to the reactors failed in overload.
A reactor takes quite a long time to shut down and start cooling down; heat (serious heat) is still produced in the core for several hours afterward. A supply of cooling water is essential.
The water would have been pumped and there would have been no drama if the mains supply held up. It didn't. The generators used to supply emergency power were flooded shortly afterward by the tsunami. So, no coolant.

It appears the explosion at no. 1 reactor was as a result of cooling water being applied to the superhot core, which also produces hydrogen gas, which then exploded, blowing the roof off in a spectacular fashion. This was not a nuclear explosion.

The authorities are now using sea water to remove excess heat. This will probably work. It will also pretty much be the end of the useful life-span of the reactors. (They don't like salt water; a maintenance/longevity issue; it's not intrinsically hazardous.)

It would seem to me that the authorities are likely to be so busy trying to control this situation during a time of crisis, and take the precaution of an evacuation space around the plants, and monitor anyone who was there for effects of radioactivity (there has been radioactive gas released) that they are probably unable to offer a definitive and authoritative statement of reassurance to the watching media.

This could go to a melt-down scenario. My feeling is that it probably will not. If it does, it would be quite different from the Chernobyl situation, where the containment area was destroyed, allowing a vast radioactive release. Provided the containment area remains intact a melt down is very serious, but not catastrophic.

Catastrophic is better defined by the huge number of people near the coast that did not have time to escape the tsunami - it was too close, despite the warning system working correctly.

Please avoid scaremongering, and I'd suggest not buying into the "fear"  mantra that the worlds' media - as Safesurf mentioned, run by a very small number of organizations - are trying to sell us.

My sincere condolences to anyone who has lost loved ones in Japan. A horrid thing to happen. Best wishes.
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: Hermite15 on March 13, 2011, 10:32:33 AM
there's no censorship, especially on US channels
That's a joke!  Most of the channels are owned by a few companies, so there is major censorship.  Thanks goodness we get international news to get the real stories.  Things are slightly better now with the current Administration, but we have a long way to go!

you got an example of a major info that was kept silent by CNN, just one - taking the current situation in Japan for instance - ???  ::) well I guess the medias have to be owned by a few companies, it's the same here in France, so what? they wouldn't survive economically otherwise... the end result is that the US/Canada and(some countries in)the EU have anyway the freest press on the planet.

 Oh one last thing, when you mention "international" news, you mean who? if you don't trust CNN/BBC/Reuters/AFP/AP etc... then who do you trust?
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: YoKenny on March 13, 2011, 01:14:37 PM
there's no censorship, especially on US channels
That's a joke!  Most of the channels are owned by a few companies, so there is major censorship.  Thanks goodness we get international news to get the real stories.  Things are slightly better now with the current Administration, but we have a long way to go!
That's why I am glad I live in Canada:
Japan's nuclear crisis grows
Partial meltdown already underway at one reactor in quake region

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/03/13/japan-quake-nuclear.html

I agree with Tarq57
Quote
My sincere condolences to anyone who has lost loved ones in Japan. A horrid thing to happen. Best wishes.
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: Iso-G on March 13, 2011, 04:27:39 PM
The media love melodrama. At times, watching the various commentaries about this, I have felt the distinct impression that they would actually like a meltdown (or worse) to happen.
I agree with you.

Please remember the energy of earthquake is tremendous.

Using log E=4.8+1.5M to convert the magnitude to energy (where E is energy [J] and M is magnitude of an earthquake), the energy of this earthquake (M9.0) in Japan is 10^(4.8+1.5x9.0) = 10^18.3 = 2.00E+18 [J].

The energy of "Little Boy", the atomic bomb dropped in Hiroshima, is 6.28E+13 [J], so that it is equal to x30,000 of Hiroshima.
Even if this earthquake brings the great deal of harm, it is not mysterious.

However, the nuclear power plant in Fukushima, Japan is still enduring.
The current stage of the nuclear plant in Fukushima is still far from Three Mile Island.
Chernobyl is the farthest land.
Many people including the Self‐Defense Forces of Japan are working hard to make the reactor core cooling.
I wish and guess the nuclear power plant in Fukushima is made cool down by this week end.


Now excellent rescue parties from Europe (Swiss, German, UK ...), USA and the other countries came in Japan and they are rescuing the victims as well as they can.
And USA ships (an aircraft carrier, destroyers etc) were arrived and they are also  undertaking the duty of the rescue.
I wish to express our gratitude to them as one of Japanese and wish a lot of people are rescued.
I wish to express my gratitude for consideration of everybody to say nothing of me.

Iso-G

P.S.
@Trevor
I'm alive in Tokyo.
I'll send an email to you with the file tomorrow. ;)
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: NON on March 15, 2011, 03:48:31 AM
Iso-G, grad to hear you're alright. :)

Shamefully I forgot to say thanks to all of the support from many countries :-[
Again thanks to all of your support and consideration.
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: Dwarden on March 15, 2011, 04:34:31 AM
My deepest condolences to victims or these who lost anyone in Japan.

I also hope Japan will resolve all the issues and recover fast.
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: sanctuaryforever on March 15, 2011, 05:31:27 AM
I cant imagine what it must be like there but I hope things recover quickly, my condolences go out to those that have suffered and those who have lost loved ones it is a deeply tragic event that no one should have to bare
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: sayaka on March 15, 2011, 12:04:03 PM
Hi, Yanto

Thank you for your message to Japanese forum, too. I would like to say thank you to everyone who feels sad and sorry for Japanese people.

I don't know what else to say...
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: Hermite15 on March 15, 2011, 02:05:43 PM
Quote
Microsoft says 'sorry' after Japan quake marketing gaffe
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/14/microsoft_apologises_about_bing_japan_quake_tweet/

(http://regmedia.co.uk/2011/03/14/bing_japan_quake.jpg)
(http://regmedia.co.uk/2011/03/14/bing_japan_quake_2.jpg)
Title: Japans Tsunami 11 March 2011
Post by: hawasakigirl on March 16, 2011, 04:11:05 AM
Our news just told about a tsunami warning for the Pacific area,
following a sea-quake rated to 7,9.  Thats a lot

Good luck, dear friends from down under -
and lets hope it wont come that bad.
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: kashifaltaf on March 17, 2011, 12:36:38 PM
It is difficult to stop my tears when I saw that clips. There are tragic scenes and helpless people who could not do something. But believe God. He is Owner of this Universe. He can do as His will.
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: ManyQs on March 18, 2011, 02:46:48 PM
I cant imagine what it must be like there but I hope things recover quickly, my condolences go out to those that have suffered and those who have lost loved ones it is a deeply tragic event that no one should have to bare

I'm afraid there will be no such thing here as a quick recovery. This one is going to take a serious length of time and much dedication to even come close to getting things back on track.

Aftershocks and other earthquakes are still a constant strain on the nerves along the entire coast from Miyagi down through Shizuoka. I mean we had one right near Mt. Fuji a few nights ago that was mighty strong and sincerely freaked me out because I could feel very strong P waves instead of the usual S waves we had been feeling from the other quakes and I knew straight away it was a new quake somewhere near. That sort of scares you first and then makes you kind of angry at whatever Gods are doing this to us. They had a very good shake a day or two before the Shizuoka one and that was in Nagano. The experts will tell you there is no connection with those that are going off all up and down the coast from Miyagi right into Tokyo Bay, but something is going on, for sure. I've been here for a couple decades and we've never had this level of intensity of quakes on Honshu from Tokai to Tohoku. Like I wrote above, it does tend to get on one's nerves.

Shortages are severe up in Miyagi and less so as one moves south into the Kanto region where it's not too rough right now, but could be in another week, if food distribution does not improve.

Obviously, everyone along the coast and further inland have very serious worries about whether they can maintain get a handle of the containment ponds holding those fuel rods. The latest efforts today seem to be providing some success and tomorrow they may get power to the cooling pumps to containment pools for reactors 5 and 6, which would be a major relief. The other four are going to require continued fire truck shooting of water because the damage to the pumps isn't clear yet, so even having power to the pumps may not help. It's a very tough job the SDF and other personnel are performing.

Unfortuanely, some lives have been lost right in the evacuation centers in the hardest areas due to lack of heat, food, and medicine. I'm referring to people that survived the initial hours of the disaster and were gotten into evacution centers, but because of a lack of supplies getting in they weakened and died. True, not a whole lot, but it shows the degree of suffering still be felt by those that are supposedly safe -- the infrastructure is just busted all to heck. And there are just so many choppers to go around.

Yep, Mother Nature kicked us real good in the butt and then add the Fukushima Plant 1 disaster on top of that and ... Well, I'm just trying to give you some idea of what we have going down here. You might think I'm painting a grim picture, but there's no other way to paint it -- it really is very bad. But if they can get control of the Fukushima Plant No. 1 (Daiichi) under control and slowly improve that situation I think we'll see a lifting of spirits and then it'll possibly make the other hardships a little easier to cope with.

Oh well, just thought you might have been asking for that sort of explanation from someone who is here.

...
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: bob3160 on March 18, 2011, 05:48:52 PM
ManyQ,
Thanks for the update. This way those of us on the forum at least know exactly
whats going on.
It is hard to hear without getting a little emotional.  :'(
Unfortunately the only help most of us can offer are the contributions we make to the relief organizations.
Please take care and keep every one informed. If you can thing of anything specific any of the forum members
can do that will accomplish more than the standard contributions, please let us know that too,
I still haven't forgotten the help I received from some on here 5 years ago before my wife's transplant. :)
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: ManyQs on March 20, 2011, 03:37:58 AM
Well, bob3160, since I read your post I had been putting notes onto a text document for an eventual response with some thoughts on how y'all folks could really help us out here once the primary emergency is over, but one thing or another has kept me from refining that document and so let me just do a quick post to state that the situation is improving in areas outside the hardest hit; improving significantly at the Fukushima power plant; frequency of aftershocks and other quakes has dropped quite a bit; but the hardest hit areas are really still in the thick of trouble of all kinds. Well, there are some improvements up there, but obviously not as fast as one would think they'd be.

I'm quite serious in that first sentence about an idea I have that I'd like to pass along to all members and guests here in the Avast Community about something you can do for us here in Japan, other than making donations, but I am also a bit worried about the topic being locked, as this isn't really about the main reason for this sub-forum. Any chance this thread/topic will be allowed to remain for a bit before it's locked?

...
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: Gargamel360 on March 20, 2011, 04:30:07 AM
I'm quite serious in that first sentence about an idea I have that I'd like to pass along to all members and guests here in the Avast Community about something you can do for us here in Japan, other than making donations, but I am also a bit worried about the topic being locked, as this isn't really about the main reason for this sub-forum. Any chance this thread/topic will be allowed to remain for a bit before it's locked?
This is off-topic in a good way.  With some of the stuff I have seen ignored here, I would be surprised if this got locked.

But, if you want to be double-sure before you try something, maybe e-mail Vlk first, try and clear it ahead of time.

You have a very hard working and determined people, if Nihon/Nippon ended up underwater, I would bet you guys would either devise a way to make it float again or figure out how to live submerged.  If anyone can overcome such a disaster like this, I would put you guys at the head of the line.  
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: bob3160 on March 21, 2011, 01:44:38 PM
Japan earthquake, before and after images (http://www.abc.net.au/news/events/japan-quake-2011/beforeafter.htm)  :'(
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: ManyQs on March 23, 2011, 02:46:57 AM
Very interesting images there, bob3160.

Okay, I think I wrote above that things seemed to be improving and in some ways I suppose that's true, but events in the area of shaking have NOT been cool.

We had two 6.3 magnitude shakes yesterday and then from 7:15 this morning for about 45 minutes or so we had an amazing series of shakes that were very strong and I don't yet know if already damaged buildings were brought down or not.

To be honest I thought I saw a way to give those outside of Japan a little idea of how very, very tiresome all this shaking has become, but for me to go any further might be considered that I am spamming, but I really am not.

I've just got to hope that my 5 plus years of membership here will and the odd circumstances will allow me some slack with what I will next post.

I started a thread about 5 or 6 hours after the 1446 shake on March 11th at the site in my signature. And this morning I did about two hours of work on page 6 to help people to get just a tiny idea of what we are experiencing.

By the way, everybody, the March 11th earthquake was not the beginning of this disaster. This all actually started on March 9th.

Anyway, I really, really hope I'll not be accused of spamming. Please don't take my post that way. I am sincerely interested in letting outsiders get even a bit of an idea of just how hard this is getting on our nerves over here. And this morning may have resulted in more deaths, but I haven't had time to check. It took me about two hours to do that work I have posted about above. I haven't even had any bread for breakfast, yet. And, yes, I still have some bread. And it's not even moldy yet.
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: Tarq57 on March 23, 2011, 02:54:39 AM
ManyQ's,

I don't think anybody will think you are spamming, nor take any action about what you are posting.
Like most everyone else on the planet, I wish you all the best, and hope the situation in Japan becomes tenable soon.

I have friends in Christchurch. Not as serious an earthquake, but the aftershocks just go on. And on.  They do not respect the fear of a child, the time of day or night, or the exhaustion of an adult.

You guys must be tired out. Try and stay safe.
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: ManyQs on March 23, 2011, 03:18:38 AM
I appreciate your post, Tarq57. Thank you.

But please don't be angry if I disagree with you on one point. If any earthquake kills or even badly injures anybody I think it has just been labelled "serious" even if it may not have been as strong as another.

And you are so correct about children from age about 4 or 5 to 10 or so. Maybe earlier than 4 years old.

Point is at a very young age it may almost seem like a game. But there is that one age group where they know it's bad but it's really hard to get them to understand why it's happening. I think after 10, maybe younger, it can be explained so that they get it.

Whether understanding the science of this stuff helps the nerves or not, can't really say. Maybe not.

And I haven't even covered the power outages, the worries about the Fukushima Daiichi power plant.

We got a long way to go.

By the way, I forgot -- almost -- I think another member here may have thought I am Japanese, but I am a round-eye from across the ocean. True, I've been here a few decades, but it still should be made clear, I suppose, that I am not of Japanese birth. You know, full disclosure, or some such thing.

Oh yes, and this stubborn gaijin (foreigner) isn't going anywhere. Too old to up and run from Mother Nature.
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: ManyQs on March 26, 2011, 09:51:54 AM
I think it's safe for me to finally post that the aftershocks have subsided quite a bit, if anyone is still keeping an eye on this thread. Of course, last time I made that report we were hit with a string of scary ones. I've unpacked my huge "run-out-the-door" bag that I put together within hours of getting home and cleaning up the mess all about.

Of course, the world is now keeping a wary eye on what is happening in Fukushima, and setbacks are to be expected, but I think they are making progress.

I want to also help you when you are trying to decide what news reports to believe about this or that is a radiation hazard. When the government issues an evacuation warning/order for Mito City in Ibaraki Prefecture you can start to believe that matters are out of control. Otherwise, I think a lot of the doom-and-gloom some nedia folks are putting out is for selling their product.

Don't get me wrong, there is a lot to do at the Fukushima powerplant and we will be suffering through rolling blackouts until winter, but we aren't going to turn into a radioactive wasteland, I don't think.

I had a rather chilling moment a few hours ago as I started setting up the first steps to doing some research and I posted that a short time ago over there where I pointed y'all before. Don't want to push that too much as it's not so polite. Still, it was a rather chilling experience.

That's my report for now and hopefully the next will be be full of even more hope and then I have a request of y'all in the Avast Community, as I noted in an earlier post.

Well, before that you might say a prayer, if you're inclined to such, for those folks that are up north that are still in deep trouble and for the workers at the Fukushima plant. That would be a good thing. Donations are always a good thing in times like this. As a matter of fact what was that line in "Kelly's Heroes" -- positive waves, right? Aim positive waves in our direction. It will help, I'm sure.

End of report.
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: SafeSurf on March 26, 2011, 10:34:18 AM
Thanks for your report ManyQs.  We will look forward to your update in the near future and will be thinking of you and your country.
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: ManyQs on April 07, 2011, 05:02:42 PM
We just had one nasty aftershock about ten minutes ago and we DO have a tsunami warning up which means not a lot of time for some folks if they were down close to the water's edge.

(http://www.jma.go.jp/en/tsunami/imgs/0/2/03_03_00_20110407233432.png)
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: Asyn on April 07, 2011, 05:10:07 PM
We just had one nasty aftershock about ten minutes ago and we DO have a tsunami warning up which means not a lot of time for some folks if they were down close to the water's edge.

Sorry to hear/read that. :(
Good luck to your people...!!!!!
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: NON on April 07, 2011, 05:20:35 PM
ManyQs, glad you're okay.
It seems you're in more near place than me... please take care...

Hope this aftershock will not result more disaster. :(
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: ManyQs on April 07, 2011, 05:30:39 PM
Seems there are some issues at present at the Onagawa Nuclear Power Plant, but obviously details are a bit sketchy. Gotta hope for the best.

Strange, just about ten or so hours ago I was telling some of my staff we'll need a bit of luck to get through the trouble at Fukushima and this aftershock was exactly the kind of bad luck I was referring to. But it might not be so bad at Fukushima from what I'm hearing right now. They had 9 workers they got to safety and the TEPCO people just closed their press conference.

My, my -- we want the Jishin God to stop it, please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Afraid there are reports of gas leaks and fires up in Miyagi Prefecture, but I couldn't catch what city, or cities. There is a power issue in both Miyagi and Yamagata Prefectures. That is they lost power over a very wide area right after the quake ended. And now there are reports that Aomori, Akita Prefectures have also lost power.

Man, we're in the _____ again. This will be an all nighter for a lot of folks.
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: Asyn on April 07, 2011, 06:05:09 PM
The tsunami warning has been reversed.
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: ManyQs on April 07, 2011, 07:33:25 PM
The tsunami warning has been reversed.

Yep, that's very good news when we see that. Still other issues to resolve but the tsunami issue out of the way is a big load off a lot of minds. But a lot of folks without power and some reports of fires, so it's going to be a bit before it's all clear on this last one.

A week or so ago I decided to get serious at studying these earthquakes and learned that the 1964 Alaskan earthquake generated 10,000 aftershocks over a period of a year, so that sort of helped me understand and come to grips with a long time of shakes. Doesn't help, though, when a strong one like we just had hits.
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: Asyn on April 07, 2011, 07:41:32 PM
Doesn't help, though, when a strong one like we just had hits.

I can hardly imagine, as I've never experienced an earthquake of this strenght.
They say it was a 7.1, not sure other sources talk about 7.4...??
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: NON on April 08, 2011, 01:21:38 AM
I can hardly imagine, as I've never experienced an earthquake of this strenght.
They say it was a 7.1, not sure other sources talk about 7.4...??
According to Japan Meteorological Agency, its magnitude is 7.4.

There are about 100 people got injured by this aftershock... hope they'll recover soon.
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: ManyQs on April 08, 2011, 02:54:23 AM
Yep, we're not hearing about any deaths, and that's good. All the power plants are seemingly okay, including a few that are of the oil/coal burning type that were knocked off line. Sure need those back up and running ASAP. Power is an issue in all areas north and east of the Tokai region and south of Hokkaido.

I saw that post a couple up about not imagining what it might be like and it's hard to put in words about these constant aftershocks and how they get on one's nerves, but here's something that might help.

Y'all might know that odd feeling when you had a baseball cap on for a long time and then take it off and for an hour or so it sometimes feels like it's still on your head. Same thing with a heavy backpack.

Well, that's sort of a bit like what it's like here these days. We've had so many aftershocks that we can actually feel that sometimes we can be sitting in our homes or some spot that we spend much time at and it will feel in the seat of our pants that it's shaking, but it's not. Sometimes it's such a strong feeling that you have to look at your favorite "shake indicator" to see if there really is any shaking going on. "Shake indicators" are like a hanging light, a mirror is good, or any type of thing on a desk or cabinet or shelf within easy sight that shakes before other stuff.

Anyway, that false alarm shaking is a constant with me and I suppose a lot of other folks. Then, of course, there is the shaking that is no false alarm, like last night. Just that that one was a whole lot worse than the earlier ones. In fact, they say it was the strongest one yet. Let's hope that remains so.

EDIT at just after noon on the 8th here in Japan.

Yep, we're not hearing about any deaths, and that's good.

I'm editing this because the NHK noon news indicates there have been some deaths and out of respect to those that died I want to edit my post, but I don't want to add an extra post.
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: ManyQs on April 11, 2011, 11:15:12 AM
I guess it was a celebration of the one month since the 9.0, but we just had a 7.1M, a 6.0M, a 5.6M and those were all in the space of about thirty minutes and we've had -- rats, one right now -- I was going to write so many smaller ones since the 7.1 about 15 or so past 5pm JST.

Man, this is so very uncool!!


Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: NON on April 11, 2011, 11:29:23 AM
I guess it was a celebration of the one month since the 9.0, but we just had a 7.1M, a 6.0M, a 5.6M and those were all in the space of about thirty minutes and we've had -- rats, one right now -- I was going to write so many smaller ones since the 7.1 about 15 or so past 5pm JST.

Man, this is so very uncool!!
Small tremble continues continuously since this 7.0 aftershock...  :'(

Hey, it comes again right now...
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: ManyQs on April 21, 2011, 05:02:46 PM
Well, I've been poking around the site off-and-on over the past few hours so it seems impolite to not post a sort of update here. In fact, we just had a magnitude 6 just off the coast of Chiba Prefecture a short time ago. Nice sharp jolt that was. It doesn't seem to pay anymore to even think the seismic activity has dropped off because just about when one starts to feel a little less threatened a nice jolt comes along to remind us that Mother Nature is the boss.

AND there is the very real continued threat of the Fukushima Daiichi Power Plant and that is not going to go away for at least another 6 months. In fact, the early results from trying to get those cute little robots into the containment buildings is not all heartening. 99% humidity in one building had the poor robot's camera lense all steamed over. Debris in the other stopped the other robot pretty much at the door.

The French company, Avera, states the earliest they can build that processing plant for water treatment (removing radioactve substances) will be June, at the earliest.

Fukushima Daiichi is like a kind of threat we are learning to live with, just like the expert opinion that the possibility of strong aftershocks in the 7 to 8 range is still very real. We get a 6M now and just shrug it off as no real big deal.

Anyway, I just felt it was impolite to post elsewhere and not here. I mean, y'all folks have posted some very kind words of support and that's appreciated, for sure.
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: bob3160 on April 21, 2011, 06:21:18 PM
Thank you again for continuing to keep us updated.
An update from a forum member is worth a lot more than reading it in the paper.
You are there and are able to give us first hand reports.
Please continue to update us when ever your able to do so and please stay safe.  :)
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: ManyQs on April 25, 2011, 01:56:05 AM
It is Monday morning here in Japan and in appreciation to the sometimes dangerous work they have done and will do I'd like to note that the Japanese Self-Defense Forces and the various branches of the United States military over here will be conducting their third "massive search" for missing and I think we can presume by now, deceased, victims. I believe we're talking about some 30,000 plus troops poking around all along the beaches and along paths the tsunamis took inland and choppers above and even more searches out at sea.

This is no small thing when one considers these troops will need field support, food and medical backup, and all sorts of stuff. Fuel for all the helicopters and vehicles. And they all have to have some backup for any emergency that might arise like a chopper going down.

And this is the third such operation.

Just thought it might be good to tip a hat to them, so to speak.
Title: Re: Japan's Tsunami @ 11 March 2011
Post by: ManyQs on May 01, 2011, 04:35:47 PM
Well folks, there are two schools of thought on this, but I personally have no clue. One is that we are fixin' to have another biggie and the other is just the opposite -- that stress is being relieved and all is going to be just fine.

You see in the last five days we've had about 170 aftershocks up and down the coast between Akita and Chiba prefectures. Up and down, south to north, north to south, down and up, and on and on and on.

To put that into some perspective, on the 25th there were 15. On the 26th there were 10. From the 27th to now it's been the Earhtquake Shuffle, or whatever this dance should be called. 170 in five days is about 34 a day or at least one an hour. Today they've been bunched up at times and sometimes as many as 4 or 5 an hour. But not so strong most of the time. From time to time a strength 3 or 4 on the Japanese scale so one doesn't completely forget Mother Nature is doing Her thing.

Who knows what it all means. I'm sure no two experts will agree, so we just wait and see, eh?

But I figured this was as good a time as any to update y'all on the situation here.

As for the Fukushima Daiichi Power Plant, it's still a serious situation being contained and very slowly getting ever so slightly better. There we need luck, for sure. No big quakes is the biggest bit of luck we need. Then the human factor type of luck -- no big mistakes.

And that's the way it is right now, folks. Your Friendly Far East Earthquake (FFEE) reporter with another update.