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Consumer Products => Avast Free Antivirus / Premium Security (legacy Pro Antivirus, Internet Security, Premier) => Topic started by: danny96 on March 30, 2011, 09:17:28 PM
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From yesterday using Malwarebytes Pro version
1) Avast! updating VDB as usually - then system locked-up and computer said: "Microsoft Windows 7 doesn't respond. Terminate app?", clicked "No", after 2-3 secs same question... I clicked OK then. But still getting same question. Restarted computer and all is OK now.
2) Downloading "suspicious" file - Malwarebytes blocked a dangerous file...blah...blah...blah and then something about AvastSvc.exe. Huh...
The question: Is malwarebytes resident shield compatible with Avast! and Outpost security ?
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There should never be more than one resident antivirus-software running simultaneously.
That's an endless source for problems.
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You have overlapping security for starters.
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The question: Is malwarebytes resident shield compatible with Avast! and Outpost security ?
Overkilling...
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Overkilling...
Overkilling ;D
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The question: Is malwarebytes resident shield compatible with Avast! and Outpost security ?
Overkilling...
+1 on that note.
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Hmm, the people here said that Malwarebytes pro cooperate with avast! and some people there have also malwarebytes pro+avast!
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Hmm, the people here said that Malwarebytes pro cooperate with avast! and some people there have also malwarebytes pro+avast!
I heard that too, however I don't like multiple AV-Scanner working residently.
And it is overkill. MBAM is great once you get hit, but when you use Avast with all relevant shields... it never happend to me.
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Cooperate. Yes.
Necessary or mandatory. No.
MBAM is quite good in new malware ITW. It removes old malware from the database to avoid it gets so big. They still not developed the incremental updates...
avast keeps the protection for old and new.
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Hmm, the people here said that Malwarebytes pro cooperate with avast! and some people there have also malwarebytes pro+avast!
I have MBAM pro on both of my systems and they work well togther. 8)
I don't have Outpost security installed.
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Hmm, the people here said that Malwarebytes pro cooperate with avast! and some people there have also malwarebytes pro+avast!
I have MBAM pro on both of my systems and they work well togther. 8)
I don't have Outpost security installed.
There is a huge difference between working fine together and working fine under a malware attack. Have you actually tested it out? Have you gone over to MDL and downloaded about 20 links and see what happens.
You maybe be able to have to fighting pit bulls together in the same room tired up. But when you untie them look out. Anytime two programs fight over the same malware someone losses. That someone being the user. The only thing MBAM Pro is really good for is IP blocking. But using a secure DNS takes care of that without adding additional processes.
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Have you actually tested it out? Have you gone over to MDL and downloaded about 20 links and see what happens.
Talking to you is like talking to a Bit Bull! ::)
Yes I have tried MDL!
Maybe you should become a member of MBAM forum and see how many problems there are between MBAM and avast!
http://forums.malwarebytes.org
See the post by DraKuL:
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=75032.15
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I also run both of them together on my three system's 1 xp and 2 win7 64's and also just about every system i look after and never an issue, MBAM is not an av so it does play nicely with most av's but if your having a problem you may need to add the exclusion's to the file system shield, i also add MBAM to the trusted processes in BhS just to be safe.
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And has I have already said................Add a secure DNS like ClearCloud and your just as safe if not safer WITHOUT added processes or $.
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And has I have already said................Add a secure DNS like ClearCloud and your just as safe if not safer WITHOUT added processes or $.
What are you talking about?
There is discuss about Compatibility issues between avast! and Malwarebytes, so leave this topic and create your own... >:(
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Exactly.............I am providing a free alternative solution without the need to worry about compatibility or adding additional processes or spending money.
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Exactly.............I am providing a free alternative solution without the need to worry about compatibility or adding additional processes or spending money.
There's already built-in protection in the new IE but we're talking about malwarebytes vs. avast! >:(
BTW Of-course we all want the AV without any running processes, for free and without compatibility issues...
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Exactly.............I am providing a free alternative solution without the need to worry about compatibility or adding additional processes or spending money.
Clear cloud maybe free but not trouble free as there is quite a few false positive's on legit site's that take ages for them to rectify where as danny already has the paid version of MBAM he might as well use it and if MBAM has any false positive's there fixed in a couple of hour's.
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Hmm, the people here said that Malwarebytes pro cooperate with avast! and some people there have also malwarebytes pro+avast!
I have MBAM pro on both of my systems and they work well togther. 8)
I don't have Outpost security installed.
There is a huge difference between working fine together and working fine under a malware attack. Have you actually tested it out? Have you gone over to MDL and downloaded about 20 links and see what happens.
You maybe be able to have to fighting pit bulls together in the same room tired up. But when you untie them look out. Anytime two programs fight over the same malware someone losses. That someone being the user. The only thing MBAM Pro is really good for is IP blocking. But using a secure DNS takes care of that without adding additional processes.
I'm using both these software, have the real time protection running on both. I spoke to an admin and he confirmed that it was developed to run with other AV software without causing any conflicts. He actually said that Avast! and MBAM will work fine together! So far there are minor conflicts with MBAM and McAfee, Trend Internet Security PRO, AVG, Norton and MSE and it could be overcome by adding them to exclusions on the AV product, but with Avast he said that we need not exclude any files even!
but if you have MBAM PRO you will get popups saying "process blocked avastsvc.exe or skype.exe" and the reason for this is, MBAM has certain IP addresses that are blacklisted/ suspicious, and Skype uses P2P connection and it might try to connect with one of those IPs, and as for avastsvc.exe, its because Avast's web shield intercepts the connections that are both in/out bound and if one of these connections are listed in MBAMs suspicious IP list, it will block that connection and give a popup. but this doesnt mean that your computer is infected!! Nor does it mean that it has conflicts with Avast!
As for dieselman, your posts are somewhat misleading, try to read other people's posts properly, give it some thought before you reply. You constantly keep saying that MBAM and Avast WILL conflict! Well the admins of MBAM confirmed that it wont and I'm certain that they know more about MBAM than you ;D
but anyway you MAY be right, there MIGHT be an instance where they conflict, but you can say that about MS Windows as well, at a particular instance, given the right condition, Avast (or any other software) might conflict with Windows... This doesnt mean that we cant have other Software installed.. The important thing is, there are no known compatibility issues upto now. The Avast! forum members confirmed it, I confirm it since I have both these running, and MBAM admins confirmed it. THAT for me, is good enough. :)
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From yesterday using Malwarebytes Pro version
1) Avast! updating VDB as usually - then system locked-up and computer said: "Microsoft Windows 7 doesn't respond. Terminate app?", clicked "No", after 2-3 secs same question... I clicked OK then. But still getting same question. Restarted computer and all is OK now.
2) Downloading "suspicious" file - Malwarebytes blocked a dangerous file...blah...blah...blah and then something about AvastSvc.exe. Huh...
The question: Is malwarebytes resident shield compatible with Avast! and Outpost security ?
I hope my post explained your second issue - about the suspicious activity. but the popup I got did not mention anything about downloading a file. as for your question - I'm using Avast Internet Security and MBAM PRO both running real time. Have had no issues upto now. :) Not sure if it has conflicts with Outpost Security. Its very unlikely that MBAM will have issues with Avast Free while having none with Avast Internet Security so I would rule that out. It might be with Outpost firewall. Try contacting the Outpost FW forum moderators and see.
about your first issue - again that might be because of a conflict with outpost security as I have had no issues while updating Avast! but if that issue is sorted now, no need to worry about it, maybe it was just a one-time thing.
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From yesterday using Malwarebytes Pro version
1) Avast! updating VDB as usually - then system locked-up and computer said: "Microsoft Windows 7 doesn't respond. Terminate app?", clicked "No", after 2-3 secs same question... I clicked OK then. But still getting same question. Restarted computer and all is OK now.
2) Downloading "suspicious" file - Malwarebytes blocked a dangerous file...blah...blah...blah and then something about AvastSvc.exe. Huh...
The question: Is malwarebytes resident shield compatible with Avast! and Outpost security ?
I hope my post explained your second issue - about the suspicious activity. but the popup I got did not mention anything about downloading a file. as for your question - I'm using Avast Internet Security and MBAM PRO both running real time. Have had no issues upto now. :) Not sure if it has conflicts with Outpost Security. Its very unlikely that MBAM will have issues with Avast Free while having none with Avast Internet Security so I would rule that out. It might be with Outpost firewall. Try contacting the Outpost FW forum moderators and see.
about your first issue - again that might be because of a conflict with outpost security as I have had no issues while updating Avast! but if that issue is sorted now, no need to worry about it, maybe it was just a one-time thing.
OMG
Comodo Firewall - Had Problems, needed to uninstall
Outpost Security - Uninstall??
What firewall is compatible? No one?
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Exactly.............I am providing a free alternative solution without the need to worry about compatibility or adding additional processes or spending money.
User has already purchased MBAM, like I said earlier read the posts properly :) as for additional memory/process usage - MBAM and SAS are both super light processes, right now MBAM uses only 3200k of RAM - while running in the background.
as for danny, money well spent! its totally worth it for a one-time purchase :)
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Exactly.............I am providing a free alternative solution without the need to worry about compatibility or adding additional processes or spending money.
There's already built-in protection in the new IE but we're talking about malwarebytes vs. avast! >:(
BTW Of-course we all want the AV without any running processes, for free and without compatibility issues...
IE............Anyone who has a brain does not use IE.
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From yesterday using Malwarebytes Pro version
1) Avast! updating VDB as usually - then system locked-up and computer said: "Microsoft Windows 7 doesn't respond. Terminate app?", clicked "No", after 2-3 secs same question... I clicked OK then. But still getting same question. Restarted computer and all is OK now.
2) Downloading "suspicious" file - Malwarebytes blocked a dangerous file...blah...blah...blah and then something about AvastSvc.exe. Huh...
The question: Is malwarebytes resident shield compatible with Avast! and Outpost security ?
I hope my post explained your second issue - about the suspicious activity. but the popup I got did not mention anything about downloading a file. as for your question - I'm using Avast Internet Security and MBAM PRO both running real time. Have had no issues upto now. :) Not sure if it has conflicts with Outpost Security. Its very unlikely that MBAM will have issues with Avast Free while having none with Avast Internet Security so I would rule that out. It might be with Outpost firewall. Try contacting the Outpost FW forum moderators and see.
about your first issue - again that might be because of a conflict with outpost security as I have had no issues while updating Avast! but if that issue is sorted now, no need to worry about it, maybe it was just a one-time thing.
OMG
Comodo Firewall - Had Problems, needed to uninstall
Outpost Security - Uninstall??
What firewall is compatible? No one?
Check my post again, I said it MIGHT be the fault :) best thing to do is to contact the outpost FW customer support
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Exactly.............I am providing a free alternative solution without the need to worry about compatibility or adding additional processes or spending money.
User has already purchased MBAM, like I said earlier read the posts properly :) as for additional memory/process usage - MBAM and SAS are both super light processes, right now MBAM uses only 3200k of RAM - while running in the background.
as for danny, money well spent! its totally worth it for a one-time purchase :)
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmm MBAM uses more ram then that. I just enabled real time and its two processes take up 95MB of ram using Process Hacker.
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IE............Anyone who has a brain does not use IE.
Ahhh, I see... why's that? Just being curious...
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IE............Anyone who has a brain does not use IE.
Ahhh, I see... why's that? Just being curious...
If you have to ask a question like that then you need to go back to security school. Chrome and Firefox have been safer for years now. Firefox 4.0 w/ABP and No Script is more secure then IE 9,8,7 all day long. Heck IE 9 does not even have a free ad blocker addon.
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Did you add exclusion's to avast for your firewall and allow all instances of avast in the firewall danny ? as im using OP Firewall Pro with no issue's and DavidR use's OP as well.
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If you have to ask a question like that then you need to go back to security school. Chrome and Firefox have been safer for years now. Firefox 4.0 w/ABP and No Script is more secure then IE 9,8,7 all day long. Heck IE 9 does not even have a free ad blocker addon.
There are, I believe, also politeness-schools available.
As well as other installation I can imagine you fitting in perfectly. ;D
Just wanted to know on what facts your statement was based. Now I know. Thank you for the answer.
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Exactly.............I am providing a free alternative solution without the need to worry about compatibility or adding additional processes or spending money.
There's already built-in protection in the new IE but we're talking about malwarebytes vs. avast! >:(
BTW Of-course we all want the AV without any running processes, for free and without compatibility issues...
IE............Anyone who has a brain does not use IE.
Dieselman, I made a post in another topic - HIPS, where everyone went way off topic and started swearing at eachother. In my post I had a message for you, obviously you havent read it. I will copy paste it here.
@ dieselman - true enough you helped others ( atleast thats what you thought you did) but be a bit more considerate about others when you post a reply, you come out a bit too strong and a bit too self-righteous which can annoy others.. So here after when you reply be a bit more "friendly".. Go through other posts and see how the other forum members help people. You can now take a cheap shot at me or read and understand what I said. Upto you my friend. Please note that this post was made earlier.
You seem to be very arrogant which annoys others. This topic was opened by Danny and he was asking about MBAM and Avast compatibility issues, theres no reason for you to insult him like that. Is this what you call "helping others" when you said thats what you do in forums ? You can never post a reply in a decent manner can you? Also about IE, he didnt ask about IE, he was asking about MBAM. If you don't like IE you can start a thread elsewhere and start thrashing it, but not here.
Also read reply #18 of this topic.
cheers!
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It would help others along with alot of you if you simply did your homework. Can Avast and MBAM Pro place nice together. Yes. But MBAM's power comes from its on demand scanning. Its real time protection is very poor. ALl you really need to stay safe is a real time antivirus and firewall. Then lock down your system with a hardening tool such as Emet 2.0. If you want more protection then simply add a sandbox such as Sandboxie or BufferZone. MBAM is a fantastic on demand scanner. It is a second opinion scanner to use if your real time protection misses something. Go around and watch the reviews on MBAM Pro and you will notice what I am saying. Clear Cloud can have false positives. I had 2. I submitted them and within 24 hours it was cleared up. Also there is OpenDNS.
Here is a good review. See how MBAM did not find anything till it scanned. Sure it blocked known bad IP's but so does a secure dns.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W1oXv33EmM
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Exactly.............I am providing a free alternative solution without the need to worry about compatibility or adding additional processes or spending money.
There's already built-in protection in the new IE but we're talking about malwarebytes vs. avast! >:(
BTW Of-course we all want the AV without any running processes, for free and without compatibility issues...
IE............Anyone who has a brain does not use IE.
There you go again Dieselman, trying to belittle people with your post's again just because they use ie and the 9 version come's with tracking protection, active x filtering, popup blocking and smart screen filter which does make it quite secure.
Your smugness and arrogance and total lack of respect toward's other member's here is disgusting and it's no wonder there is alot of profanity throwen in your direction, you would think that someone like your self would be used to abuse and swearing.
Im sure multiple people in this forum would like you to crawl back into the hole that you came from as you are thoughly disliked on this forum and i dare say that is the general consensis to the other forum's you took part in, i for one would not urinate on you if you were on fire so do us all a favour and leave.
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LOL..................all of these which you mentioned tracking protection, active x filtering, popup blocking and smart screen filter have been around since IE 8. The tracking protection was there but been improved since IE 8. IE still lacks an ad blocker and script blocking. IE is also the most attacked web browser. Ask any security professional how to stay safe and they will tell you "Use an alternative browser". Even MajorGeeks tells you this. Google safe surfing and you will see the same advice. One of the first steps in making the step to safe surfing is using an alternative browser such as Firefox,Chrome or Opera. I would think members with a lot of stars next to there names would know this by now.
Notice something...............Not once have a swore. Wanna know why? Maturity my friend.
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@dieselman
Internet Explorer is also good & safe browser. All these security features were updated and improved so browser is even more secure. It's also more faster. But! this has nothing to do with my topic, so please start a new topic about browsers where you can spam as you want to. This was the last sentence about browsers so please shut up. Or as I said, create new topic.
About your video on youtube
Video was created on 1.07.2010
Don't you think that something changed? For example that malwarebytes' is now better?
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Thats not my video and there are others like it. Same results. MBAM is one of the best on demand scanners. That is what is made for for originally. To pick up the slack where your av left off. Test it for yourself over at MDL.
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Thats not my video and there are others like it. Same results. MBAM is one of the best on demand scanners. That is what is made for for originally. To pick up the slack where your av left off. Test it for yourself over at MDL.
... ::) >:(
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You people are funny. You all think adding on more protection is better. Well sorry to say thats not the truth. Wilders Security is a great place for info. If you enable UAC,DEP,SEHOP, and ASLR you are already more protected then most. Just use Emet 2.0 and enable protection for any browsers or p2p programs.
Ask yourselves this..................Why are you using Avast if you think you need MBAM Pro to back it up? Should you feel confident enough in Avast's protection? I sure do.
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You people are funny. You all think adding on more protection is better. Well sorry to say thats not the truth. Wilders Security is a great place for info. If you enable UAC,DEP,SEHOP, and ASLR you are already more protected then most. Just use Emet 2.0 and enable protection for any browsers or p2p programs.
Ask yourselves this..................Why are you using Avast if you think you need MBAM Pro to back it up? Should you feel confident enough in Avast's protection? I sure do.
Avast! + Malwarebytes' Pro are certified combination. They should cooperate and create a good protection.
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solution is very simple, disable malwarebytes' web shield - avast!'s network+web shields are better I think
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Good idea danny boy but you still have a program using 95MB of ram and adding on two additional processes for what? Nothing.
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I think it boils down to personal preference.
On one machine, that is shared, I have avast Free, and MBAM free which I (try to ;)) scan with regularly, and keep up with things on it.
On another, all I have is avast Free and Winpatrol Free.
I am comfortable with these setups, but given the option, I possibly would take the pro version of MBAM for the shared pc at least, but not having ever used MBAM pro, I can't really judge anything about it.
For me, the detections from each (while they may overlap, and cause some issues - understandable) are different. (for instance MBAM pro could stop some Rogues from installing before some AVs - that is the point of MBAM after all...)
For a lesser powered machine, the pro version of mbam in conjunction with an AV may not be the best option but the free version is still an option.
That's my opinion anyway...
Something else I want to add as a general thing to all here. What you use is your choice, based on your opinions. So insulting another user because their opinion differs, is completely uncalled for. Whether you agree or not. The whole point of this thread is to get a balanced view of everyone's opinions, not to call out each other on what they use.
Seeing loads of thread degenerate into users bickering back and forth at the moment... :(
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Good idea danny boy but you still have a program using 95MB of ram and adding on two additional processes for what? Nothing.
Actually the two processes only use 36MB on my system's and that while it's scanning, you most likely have the gui open which is not needed with the pro version.
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Good idea danny boy but you still have a program using 95MB of ram and adding on two additional processes for what? Nothing.
Actually the two processes only use 36MB on my system's and that while it's scanning, you most likely have the gui open which is not needed with the pro version.
Nope..................You are wrong. MBAM tray and MBAM services were using 95MB of ram when just sitting at idle.
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Good idea danny boy but you still have a program using 95MB of ram and adding on two additional processes for what? Nothing.
Actually the two processes only use 36MB on my system's and that while it's scanning, you most likely have the gui open which is not needed with the pro version.
Nope..................You are wrong. MBAM tray and MBAM services were using 95MB of ram when just sitting at idle.
Dont know why it's so high on your system, my crappy old xp with 512 mb ram uses about 34 mb, the system on on now uses 36 meg and my other win 7 system uses 31 mb but they all jump to around 80 mb if i open the gui.
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Nope..................You are wrong. MBAM tray and MBAM services were using 95MB of ram when just sitting at idle.
On Windows 7 MBAM is only using 5,728K and on XP it is using 34MB just like craigb says.
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OK, that's enough.
Any "memory usage" numbers are complete rubbish - without knowing how the program works internally, which you don't unless you're the author maybe, they don't mean a thing.
Substitute any random number and you'll be exactly as close to the truth as you are when you're looking at the numbers in Task Manager or similar tool.
Summing the numbers of various processes together is especially funny.