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Offline .Nightwolf.

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why does avast 2014 collects information?
« on: December 05, 2013, 09:23:50 AM »
I've been using avast for years with pleasure. Now i get a message that there's a program update. When i want to install it i get the message that avast collects and sends information from the computer. Sorry but i won't allow the installation then. I'm gonne search another free scanner then. I don't like this kind of things... too bad for avast. Hope they ever gonna change this again!!!

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Re: why does avast 2014 collects information?
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2013, 09:43:25 AM »
no private info... it is info about files checked against known clean files

all AV are doing this now, and those who dont are working on it

around 200 000 new malware files are found evry day, so this is one way of handling that large amount of malware found, checking files against reputation

http://www.av-test.org/en/statistics/malware/


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Re: why does avast 2014 collects information?
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2013, 12:32:44 PM »
Thanks for your explanation Pondus. I didn't know that. Just was a bit worried by that message. Maybe i'll change my thoughts later. Still gonna wait a while for the update.

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Re: why does avast 2014 collects information?
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2013, 04:57:54 PM »
No matter WHAT information is Avast collecting, don't you thing it should be CUSTOMER right to decide when, what and who is collecting ANYTHING?

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Re: why does avast 2014 collects information?
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2013, 05:08:44 PM »
No matter WHAT information is Avast collecting, don't you thing it should be CUSTOMER right to decide when, what and who is collecting ANYTHING?
if you want a AV with lower protection rate...turn it off

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Re: why does avast 2014 collects information?
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2013, 05:58:24 PM »
No matter WHAT information is Avast collecting, don't you thing it should be CUSTOMER right to decide when, what and who is collecting ANYTHING?
The "non-personal" information avast is collecting is to provide the user base with better protection.
If my information is used to help protect another user...great!
It's called "the cloud" for a reason. But if you don't want to help
avast and their users with better protection, so be it.

Good luck with an inferior product.

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Re: why does avast 2014 collects information?
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2013, 06:11:33 PM »

all AV are doing this now, and those who dont are working on it


That's quite a bold statement. Are you really involved in the development of the the AVs out there or are you just guessing?

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Re: why does avast 2014 collects information?
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2013, 06:32:35 PM »

all AV are doing this now, and those who dont are working on it


That's quite a bold statement. Are you really involved in the development of the the AVs out there or are you just guessing?

It is the trend. More and more we are seeing more software using "the cloud" to improve their product(s).

edit: Both Pondus and myself are users like you and are not employed by avast. We are users dedicated to
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Re: why does avast 2014 collects information?
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2013, 10:02:29 AM »

all AV are doing this now, and those who dont are working on it


That's quite a bold statement. Are you really involved in the development of the the AVs out there or are you just guessing?
no guesswork



McAfee 2008.  http://arstechnica.com/security/2008/09/mcafee-moving-to-the-cloud-for-antivirus-protection/

or F-secure.  http://forum.avast.com/index.php?action=post;quote=1031140;topic=141918.0;last_msg=1031157
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Cloud-based, real-time protection against all online threats   

Norman.  http://www.norman.com/home_and_small_office/products/norman_antivirus
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Faster threat identification through cloud-based real time technology ensures that the protection is always up to date.

Kaspersky  http://blog.kaspersky.com/ksn/

so surf the websites of Panda (the one that started with it)  / Norton / TrendMicro / Bitdefender......
and you find the same




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Re: why does avast 2014 collects information?
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2013, 06:22:32 PM »

no guesswork

Blatant misdirect. Nobody was talking about the cloud. Besides, it wouldn't necessary to send info to Avast just to get cloud updates. The info, that's what it was about.

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Re: why does avast 2014 collects information?
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2013, 06:38:55 PM »

no guesswork

Blatant misdirect. Nobody was talking about the cloud. Besides, it wouldn't necessary to send info to Avast just to get cloud updates. The info, that's what it was about.

And they use the cloud to get the information.
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Re: why does avast 2014 collects information?
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2013, 06:46:46 PM »

no guesswork

Blatant misdirect. Nobody was talking about the cloud. Besides, it wouldn't necessary to send info to Avast just to get cloud updates. The info, that's what it was about.

Sorry but your prior posts did indirectly point towards using the cloud as an additional enhancement to off-line based detections.

Reply #6 and the text you quoted was in relation avast using the cloud for the transmission/receipt of files active/being scanned. So quoting only a small part of the post, is taking it in isolation and out of context. And the fact that other AVs are doing the same to improve overall detections.
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Re: why does avast 2014 collects information?
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2013, 10:14:04 PM »
...."By the way your ISP has a record on every website you have ever visited.".... By the way my ISP  has no record on every website I visited. I'm the one who decide what and when they record any website!  Did you ever heard about TOR?

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Re: why does avast 2014 collects information?
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2013, 11:13:38 PM »
Even Tor isnt secure like that, im sure your isp still has some info on you.

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Re: why does avast 2014 collects information?
« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2013, 12:03:17 AM »
If Cloud information on files helps Avast make for better protection, then i'm all for it, as All Av's are doing this type of thing nowadays.   As No personal identifiable information states is sent, then that has no problem with myself, and For the top notch protection from internet based threats, then that is great... 

When using an Antivirus you have to have some trust when using the programs...I'm sure Microsoft MSE/Windows Defender do same thing or something similar with there Malware Active Protection Service built into there antivirus.   Though personally I tend to trust Avast more myself, as they've been in business in the security field numerous years...

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