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wabashjake

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Multi-layer security app mix
« on: December 23, 2005, 08:46:29 PM »
Would like some input from the forum members on setting up a solid multi-layer security system, preferably made up of fee/low cost solutions, with avast! as the centerpiece.

Currently running on my WinXP SP2 machine:

avast!
Ad-Aware
Spybot Search & Destroy
Spyware Blaster

About to add Kerio Personal Firewall.

The machine is behind a router.

Does this seem like a fairly solid setup?  Or too flimsy?  Or overkill?

Thank you!
Jacob

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Re: Multi-layer security app mix
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2005, 09:09:13 PM »
Looks exactly like my own setup Jacob.I would recomend an alternate browser like Firefox Flock or Opera too.Should be fine as long as you keep all your programs updated, run regular scans and the most important thing is to use your head especially while surfing.Ohh and it wouldn't hurt if you ran an online scan from time to time too. :)

BTW Welcome to the forum!

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Mikey
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Re: Multi-layer security app mix
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2005, 09:12:21 PM »
I'll just add full operational system updates, maybe a script blocker (or a browser extension), ewido (free) is a non-resident scanner for spyware and trojans (www.ewido.net).

About to add Kerio Personal Firewall.
Even behind a router, a firewall will be good  8)
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Re: Multi-layer security app mix
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2005, 09:38:22 PM »
Yes wabashjake,

And whenever you decide to occasionally run java on your XP machine, run Sun Java, the latest version. It is safer. I like your set up, but I would also like to include SSM, System safety Monitor (free and very good). So my multilayer security would be:
Antivirus Solution Avast, Anti-Ad- &Spyware Solution, the trio Ad-Aware, Spybot S&D, SpywareBlaster and the very fast Bazooka (also for their background site), Kerio personal Firewall seems a good Software Firewall Solution,  behind a router is the good Hardware Packet Filter Solution, Alternate browser like Mickey's proposal Flock, Opera or FF 1.5 or Seamonkey, in the browser Adblock and NoScript, Anti-Trojan Solution Ewido or A-squared, System Monitor Solution, I would choose the free System Safety Monitor. And that concludes Polonus's multilayer safety suggestion, with this you really will have some rest, update and patch everything well, and run the machines for normal duty only with User Rights. Safe surfing with such a system is almost guaranteed,

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Re: Multi-layer security app mix
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2005, 12:55:01 AM »
System safety Monitor (free and very good)
Kerio personal Firewall
I think it's too much security programs doing the same: low level protection. SSM works good without other program that monitors injection (program being started by another one). SSM is for advanced users in my opinion. Could silent block things and avoid the normal working of the computer. Normal users won't even know what is happening  :P
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Re: Multi-layer security app mix
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2005, 01:03:05 AM »
I agree with Tech SSM is only for advanced users and it has a tendency to suck up resources but if you are a little on the "paranoid" side and an advanced user you should definitely try it out. ;) Otherwise your setup is good and like i said always keep your apps updated(especially windows) try to find a nice alternate browser(Opera is suppose to be the safest) and stay clear from porn and crack sites and you should be fine...



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Re: Multi-layer security app mix
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2005, 04:05:01 AM »
i think he don't need SSM / Protect Guard if he going to buy and use Kerio PF ...

best to get this new Sunbelt Kerio Personal Firewall (cost only 15 USD) with HIPS support

http://www.sunbelt-software.com/Kerio.cfm

as SSM is for very advanced users
and Protect Guard is blacklisted by PunkBuster (it's possible to obey it but it's bit complicated)
so if You are gamer PG is like dead for You ...
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Re: Multi-layer security app mix
« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2005, 04:55:44 AM »
Well If we are talking about multiple residents listen to this:

  • Avast Pro
  • Ewido Guard
  • Ms AntiSpyware RealTime Agents (Except the Startup Files & Startup Registry Files Monitor)
  • Spyware Guard
  • Zone Alarm Pro

No problems whatsoever!

I began with only Zone Alarm and an antivirus resident. I had no problems so I added up a Trojan resident. Still no sign of low memory usage and lag of system performance. Added two spyware guards.
I must tell you that I'm on 512MB.

P.S. Also, I have World Community Grid program (Voluntary science community research) running non stop at low priority and I have no problems opening larger applications (up to 40MB each in active mem)

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« Last Edit: December 24, 2005, 01:56:21 PM by Zagor »

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Re: Multi-layer security app mix
« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2005, 10:26:08 AM »
My Windows XP Pro SP1 machine:

Opera 9 TP 1
Avast Home 4.6.744
Zonealarm 4.5.538.001
Spybot 1.4
Microsoft antispyware Beta 1

I'm fine with this protection ;)
« Last Edit: December 24, 2005, 10:29:28 AM by Hannu »

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Re: Multi-layer security app mix
« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2005, 03:38:44 PM »
Well If we are talking about multiple residents listen to this:

  • Avast Pro
  • Ewido Guard
  • Ms AntiSpyware RealTime Agents (Except the Startup Files & Startup Registry Files Monitor)
  • Spyware Guard
  • Zone Alarm Pro
SpywareGuard hasn't had any developement for a considerable time, a year or more I think, I took it off my system after it stoped geting regular updates. A security program without updates is an out of date program and we all know what that means, a false sense of security and potential weakness.
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Re: Multi-layer security app mix
« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2005, 05:11:55 PM »
SpywareGuard realy had no updates since year and a half I belive.

Programers at the Javacool Software swear that often updates are not important for SpywareGuard heuristics engine.

At their forum the daily basis question from their users is why are there no new updates?
Of course heuristics is also important to update, maybe not often as
malware signatures, but it needs new detection algorythms.

SpywareGuard has not protected me much since I installed it. But don't get me wrong, I'm not talking about malware passing trough. I'm talking about the rare cases of spyware infections. Anyway, since my MS Antispyware is doing all the work, I will soon uninstall the Guard

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Re: Multi-layer security app mix
« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2005, 05:25:35 PM »
I will just list the rest of my protection, which is all non-resident:

  • Bit Defender Free
  • a Squared Free
  • Spybot S&D
  • AdAware SE Personal
  • TrendMicro AntiSpyware Web Scanner
  • Rootkit Revealer
  • F-Secure's Black Light
  • Spyware Blaster
  • Occasionally I'm experimenting with different new products

Note that I haven't had any serious infection. Also my surfing habbits are very strict. Never visit suspicious links and sites. Scanning every downloaded file with multiple scanners...

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Re: Multi-layer security app mix
« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2005, 06:49:50 PM »
 :) As I mentioned in another thread, IF you have Spybot AND
    SpywareBlaster, it has been reported by a few Users that
    after a Spybot Update, some items in SpywareBlaster's
    "Protection" will become "unenabled" and will need to be
    "reenabled" . Have seen nothing on the Spybot forums
     under what circumstances this happens .

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Re: Multi-layer security app mix
« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2005, 07:07:39 PM »
:) As I mentioned in another thread, IF you have Spybot AND
 SpywareBlaster, it has been reported by a few Users that
 after a Spybot Update, some items in SpywareBlaster's
 "Protection" will become "unenabled" and will need to be
 "reenabled" . Have seen nothing on the Spybot forums
 under what circumstances this happens .

Really?Strange it never happened to me and i've been using both programs for quite some time now.Can you please give a link so we can read more about it?Thanks!

P.S: A MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL OF YOU!!!

Greets from Slovenia,

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stevejrc

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Re: Multi-layer security app mix
« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2005, 08:03:57 PM »
simliar problem seen when installling IE-Spyads, its best to use one program to add restricted sites (or activeX block lists etc):

"Here's what's happening: as of this writing, there are a few problems with invalid entries or outdated items in the Restricted sites lists used by Spybot and SpywareBlaster. Those invalid and outdated entries are removed  during the installation of IE-SPYAD and not replaced. Spybot and SpywareBlaster will report that these invalid or outdated "items" or protections have been disabled."

https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/ehowes/www/res/ie-spyad.txt
« Last Edit: December 24, 2005, 08:07:05 PM by stevejrc »