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Re: NEW: RC release 11.2.2257 is out
« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2016, 03:25:26 AM »
+ Silent Update process is ready
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Re: NEW: RC release 11.2.2257 is out
« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2016, 04:35:51 PM »
i think that after update to version 11.2.2257,things are much better now,i've got faster startup.good work Avast

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Re: NEW: RC release 11.2.2257 is out
« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2016, 07:53:08 PM »
+ Silent Update process is ready
What is it?

Will be described in final release notes. Shortly, for future versions of Avast we would like that Avast updates automatically, silently by default. Previous update settings will be preserved.

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Re: NEW: RC release 11.2.2257 is out
« Reply #18 on: March 25, 2016, 08:23:52 PM »
+ Silent Update process is ready
What is it?

Will be described in final release notes. Shortly, for future versions of Avast we would like that Avast updates automatically, silently by default. Previous update settings will be preserved.

Given the adverse user reaction of the silent (background) installation of the SafeZone Browser. I would be very wary about taking that step, you only have to browse the forums to see the anger about this.

We have also seen the reaction forums in the past, to forced program updates from old avast versions - even when updates were set to Manual Update.

What is the urgency/reason to even contemplate silent program updates.

Personally I hate forced program updates in any program, it is my system and I would like to control what happens on it and when.
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Re: NEW: RC release 11.2.2257 is out
« Reply #19 on: March 25, 2016, 08:35:50 PM »
+ Silent Update process is ready
What is it?

Will be described in final release notes. Shortly, for future versions of Avast we would like that Avast updates automatically, silently by default. Previous update settings will be preserved.
I update almost everything manually, so if silent update is forced, I'll look for something else.

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Re: NEW: RC release 11.2.2257 is out
« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2016, 08:49:12 PM »
+ Silent Update process is ready
What is it?

Will be described in final release notes. Shortly, for future versions of Avast we would like that Avast updates automatically, silently by default. Previous update settings will be preserved.

Given the adverse user reaction of the silent (background) installation of the SafeZone Browser. I would be very wary about taking that step, you only have to browse the forums to see the anger about this.

We have also seen the reaction forums in the past, to forced program updates from old avast versions - even when updates were set to Manual Update.

What is the urgency/reason to even contemplate silent program updates.

Personally I hate forced program updates in any program, it is my system and I would like to control what happens on it and when.

We should do better communication about SafeZone Browser launch.

Silent option will be default. If you decide to change it to manual, we gonna keep this change for future releases.

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Re: NEW: RC release 11.2.2257 is out
« Reply #21 on: March 25, 2016, 09:11:40 PM »
With the launch of Safezone browser, I came really close to removing Avast from every single PC, and Android Phones, but so far trying to stick it out a little longer, still have to finish removing SafeZone browser on Windows 10 Desktop, left over folders and such.    Not sure if keeping it on any other of the machines that got it or not. 

So will this silent updating be for only Definitions in the future or Program updates or both?

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Re: NEW: RC release 11.2.2257 is out
« Reply #22 on: March 25, 2016, 10:24:52 PM »
+ Silent Update process is ready
What is it?

Will be described in final release notes. Shortly, for future versions of Avast we would like that Avast updates automatically, silently by default. Previous update settings will be preserved.

Given the adverse user reaction of the silent (background) installation of the SafeZone Browser. I would be very wary about taking that step, you only have to browse the forums to see the anger about this.

We have also seen the reaction forums in the past, to forced program updates from old avast versions - even when updates were set to Manual Update.

What is the urgency/reason to even contemplate silent program updates.

Personally I hate forced program updates in any program, it is my system and I would like to control what happens on it and when.

We should do better communication about SafeZone Browser launch.

Silent option will be default. If you decide to change it to manual, we gonna keep this change for future releases.
I'm a bit puzzled ??? Having just shot oneself in one foot, Will shooting yourself in the other foot make things better ???
This almost sounds like a how to book on committing ones self destruction.  :'(
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Re: NEW: RC release 11.2.2257 is out
« Reply #23 on: March 25, 2016, 10:34:25 PM »
+ Silent Update process is ready
What is it?

Will be described in final release notes. Shortly, for future versions of Avast we would like that Avast updates automatically, silently by default. Previous update settings will be preserved.

Given the adverse user reaction of the silent (background) installation of the SafeZone Browser. I would be very wary about taking that step, you only have to browse the forums to see the anger about this.

We have also seen the reaction forums in the past, to forced program updates from old avast versions - even when updates were set to Manual Update.

What is the urgency/reason to even contemplate silent program updates.

Personally I hate forced program updates in any program, it is my system and I would like to control what happens on it and when.

We should do better communication about SafeZone Browser launch.

Silent option will be default. If you decide to change it to manual, we gonna keep this change for future releases.
I'm a bit puzzled ??? Having just shot oneself in one foot, Will shooting yourself in the other foot make things better ???
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Well the limp won't be so noticeable having shot the other foot.

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In all seriousness though, as I asked earlier:
What is the urgency/reason/benefit to even contemplate silent program updates ?

For most people they won't like that as we have seen in the past. But my major concern is these updates invariably occur shortly after boot (seen instup.exe in task manager lots and it is a bit of a hog) for those that shutdown systems at night. There really has to be a reasonable delay after boot to let the system settle down.

Also if these silent updates come in and as it is now program updates require a reboot, how will this requirement be handled or will there not be a reboot requirement ?
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Re: NEW: RC release 11.2.2257 is out
« Reply #24 on: March 25, 2016, 11:32:32 PM »
I'm staying with 2245 until all this nonsense shakes out, one way or another.
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Re: NEW: RC release 11.2.2257 is out
« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2016, 11:51:33 PM »
People with Windows XP, Vista or 7 can't install it if the system doesn't support the SSE2 instruction set.
This means millions of users can't use the latest avast version. :(

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Re: NEW: RC release 11.2.2257 is out
« Reply #26 on: March 25, 2016, 11:52:25 PM »
I am still happy with an automatic update every 240 minutes.
Besides the SafeZone browser surprise all is working correctly.

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Re: NEW: RC release 11.2.2257 is out
« Reply #27 on: March 26, 2016, 02:43:39 AM »
I do wonder if the DNS resolver issues and stuck application threads were fixed ;)

cause I'm totally not sure ... so let's see
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Re: NEW: RC release 11.2.2257 is out
« Reply #28 on: March 26, 2016, 09:08:09 AM »
Certificate problem with  avast 11.2.2257 in windows 10 build 14279.
No problem with avast disabled.

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Re: NEW: RC release 11.2.2257 is out
« Reply #29 on: March 26, 2016, 12:02:28 PM »
+ Silent Update process is ready
What is it?

Will be described in final release notes. Shortly, for future versions of Avast we would like that Avast updates automatically, silently by default. Previous update settings will be preserved.

Given the adverse user reaction of the silent (background) installation of the SafeZone Browser. I would be very wary about taking that step, you only have to browse the forums to see the anger about this.

We have also seen the reaction forums in the past, to forced program updates from old avast versions - even when updates were set to Manual Update.

What is the urgency/reason to even contemplate silent program updates.

Personally I hate forced program updates in any program, it is my system and I would like to control what happens on it and when.

We should do better communication about SafeZone Browser launch.

Silent option will be default. If you decide to change it to manual, we gonna keep this change for future releases.
I'm a bit puzzled ??? Having just shot oneself in one foot, Will shooting yourself in the other foot make things better ???
<snip>

Well the limp won't be so noticeable having shot the other foot.

@ hectic-mmv
In all seriousness though, as I asked earlier:
What is the urgency/reason/benefit to even contemplate silent program updates ?

For most people they won't like that as we have seen in the past. But my major concern is these updates invariably occur shortly after boot (seen instup.exe in task manager lots and it is a bit of a hog) for those that shutdown systems at night. There really has to be a reasonable delay after boot to let the system settle down.

Also if these silent updates come in and as it is now program updates require a reboot, how will this requirement be handled or will there not be a reboot requirement ?

In a past we used to release new version each 3-4 version per year. Newly, we would like to release new version every month. Its inconvenient to ask for reboot so often so thats why silent updates are introduced. This brings us to opportunity to react on issues in a shorter time.

About reboot. Good point, update should be planned not immediately after reboot. To apply all the changes update requires reboot and there will be reboot request after certaion amount of time without reboot which is remotely configurable.