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Offline chris..

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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2018, 09:15:31 PM »
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Didn't you tried "passive mode" rather than uninstalling avast ?

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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2018, 09:38:33 PM »
Also ended up installing the patch from Microsoft Update Catalog for Win10 1709:
https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=KB4056892

It seem to be the most reliable way.

Something is clearly wrong with Windows Update. Searching for info about KB4056892 not being offered by WU, I found reddit posts stating that some systems with Windows Defender only, didn't receive the update either. It looks like MS tried some new thing to avoid system disruption due to early release of the update, which isn't working properly...

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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2018, 09:39:27 PM »
avast, can you please test this. You have users stating that they have the latest version of your software installed, have verified that the registry key exists, but are not able to get the MS update until they uninstall avast antivirus, at which point they immediately are able to download the update through the normal Windows Update mechanism. You should be able to reproduce this issue and offer a solution.

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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2018, 10:06:30 PM »
Surprise:  I'm supposedly not vulnerable!!

Doesn't this piece of software detect vulnerabilities in IME only? That's quite different from current problems.
« Last Edit: January 05, 2018, 10:08:12 PM by Lexor »

Offline SimmonsTheMad33

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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2018, 10:21:54 PM »
Surprise:  I'm supposedly not vulnerable!!

Yes you are!

This tool checks for a vulnerability in the Intel Management Engine. That is a completely separate problem from both Meltdown and Spectre.

This^

The IMEI vulnerability is a whole other issue than Meltdown and Spectre
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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2018, 10:24:34 PM »
For all of you that uninstalled avast and then managed to download the microsoft patch, did you reinstalled avast without issue afterwards? Another option I am thinking at would be to stop using avast and use another anti-virus...

I am a bit surprised that no one from avast is communicating on this issue...

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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2018, 10:32:04 PM »
You can download the tool directly from Intel at: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/27150?v=t   The page that provides documentation is:
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000025619/software.html 
The tool doesn't support MS-systems below W7!
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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2018, 10:41:37 PM »
Still waiting for that registry key. Why am I not getting the micro-update? on windows 7 and using avast free.

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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2018, 10:43:27 PM »
Removed Avast on my newer Intel I7 based laptop, and did receive the update right after restart after Defender was activated, have not tried reinstalling Avast Free yet, but I might, as rest of the systems using Avast Free, Desktop did it manually with the windows catalog update way

don't know why couldn't get it from WIndows update with Avast installed, reg key was there, so makes no sense, Malwarebytes supposedly was up to date the program said

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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2018, 10:51:09 PM »
Hi,
if you have required registry value in QualityCompat key, then there is nothing more Avast can do, because Microsoft is controlling Windows update process, so please don't panic if the update was not delivered yet. It was not delivered to my development PC (no AV installed) too, although I was trying to check for update manually multiple time.

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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #25 on: January 05, 2018, 10:58:08 PM »
Hi,
if you have required registry value in QualityCompat key, then there is nothing more Avast can do, because Microsoft is controlling Windows update process, so please don't panic if the update was not delivered yet. It was not delivered to my development PC (no AV installed) too, although I was trying to check for update manually multiple time.

I'll wait and see what happens on patch Tuesday.
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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #26 on: January 05, 2018, 11:09:16 PM »
Hi,
if you have required registry value in QualityCompat key, then there is nothing more Avast can do, because Microsoft is controlling Windows update process, so please don't panic if the update was not delivered yet. It was not delivered to my development PC (no AV installed) too, although I was trying to check for update manually multiple time.
How do I obtain the key?

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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #27 on: January 05, 2018, 11:15:28 PM »
Still waiting for that registry key. Why am I not getting the micro-update? on windows 7 and using avast free.

I have the registry key for Windows 7, but not Windows 10. I can think of three options.

1. Uninstall / reinstall Avast! to see if the registry key is created
2. Uninstall Avast! and update Windows 10
3. Uninstall Avast!, update Windows 10, reinstall Avast!

Thoughts about how to proceed?

Offline Patrick2

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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #28 on: January 05, 2018, 11:18:13 PM »
So would it be safe to reinstall Avast on machine I removed it from to obtain the update yesterday or should I wait til after Tuesday to do that?

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Offline toastman

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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #29 on: January 05, 2018, 11:40:37 PM »
Still waiting for that registry key. Why am I not getting the micro-update? on windows 7 and using avast free.

I have the registry key for Windows 7, but not Windows 10. I can think of three options.

1. Uninstall / reinstall Avast! to see if the registry key is created
2. Uninstall Avast! and update Windows 10
3. Uninstall Avast!, update Windows 10, reinstall Avast!

Thoughts about how to proceed?

I did item 1 above and the registry key has been created. I checked for updates and none were found. I suppose that I will wait for patch Tuesday and see if my machine catches any updates then.