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olmor

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Lost explorer icons on Win98
« on: October 02, 2006, 07:50:43 AM »
Hello!

I'm using Avast! 4.7 Home (892) on Windows 98 SE Russian.
I have such problem.
I start Avast! scanner from shortcut and select directories to scan (with treeview), then I start scanning and close program.
After this some icons in Windows Explorer disappears (icons in Quick launch, icons iside My computer, etc.).

Can you fix this bug?

Thank you.
Oleg.

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Re: Lost explorer icons on Win98
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2006, 11:15:23 AM »
I'm afraid we can't.
This looks like the problem with "low resources", quite common on Windows 9x, unfortunatelly. The only thing I can suggest is to reduce the number of programs running simultanously (e.g. in the system tray, running automatically when Windows start).

olmor

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Re: Lost explorer icons on Win98
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2006, 12:12:15 PM »
Igor,

Ok. I can live with it. I've just want to help you to find a bug.
I was able to reproduce such problem on 2 other computers with Win98SE with standard Windows install (no additional programs, only Win98 + avast 4.7 Home).
System resources are >85% free. The problem is appeared only if I select some directories to scan (third option on the right side of Avast scanner window). There is no problem if I scan local or removable drives (first and second option).
Maybe you have a glance on it in a free time. Just start Avast scanner, select directories to scan, close program, and open 'My computer'.
I think there is something wrong in dialog where user selects directories.

Regards,
Oleg

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Re: Lost explorer icons on Win98
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2006, 02:05:22 PM »
I have exactly the same problem with my Windows 98SE I noticed as that
simply related to small the icones 16/16 of the menu to start and in
the large explorer the icones appears...  therefore it must have small
a bug obliged rebooter and all becomes again normal!!

Cordially  ;)

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Re: Lost explorer icons on Win98
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2006, 09:00:19 PM »
Silence :(

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Re: Lost explorer icons on Win98
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2007, 04:59:17 PM »
The only thing I can suggest is to (try to) use the skinless Simple User Interface... don't have anything better, sorry.

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Re: Lost explorer icons on Win98
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2007, 06:39:23 PM »
I have exactly the same problem with my Windows 98SE I noticed as that
simply related to small the icones 16/16 of the menu to start and in
the large explorer the icones appears...  therefore it must have small
a bug obliged rebooter and all becomes again normal!!

Cordially  ;)

The same thing happens on Win95.  This problem only happens for me with the newest release version and current beta and only after an on-demand scan.  I shut down all other programs (except Avast! providers) during the on-demand scan and set it to standard, no archive.  I am not sure how much "resource" Avast! needs but this is what it has to work with on my old system:

total memory 128M
VCACHE  20M max, 3M min
4GB free hard drive space
Swap file set for 200M min, no max

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Re: Lost explorer icons on Win98
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2007, 06:57:28 PM »
I am not sure how much "resource" Avast! needs but this is what it has to work with on my old system:
It should be enough...
http://www.avast.com/eng/system-requirements-avast-home.html

For a computer running Windows® 95/98/Me:
486 Processor, 32MB RAM and 50MB of free hard disk space.
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Re: Lost explorer icons on Win98
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2007, 08:26:53 PM »
I tried a little experiment.  I unchecked only the box "enable skins for explorer extension" in program settings.  The box "Enable skins for simple user interface" is still checked.  I have run the on-demand scan twice but the icons never disappeared.  I don't know if this is a permanent fix or not.  I will post again later.

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Re: Lost explorer icons on Win98
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2007, 01:07:30 AM »
As Igor said... the skinless option seems to be a solution for low-memory systems.  ::)

The only thing I can suggest is to (try to) use the skinless Simple User Interface... don't have anything better, sorry.
The best things in life are free.

Gort

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Re: Lost explorer icons on Win98
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2007, 05:42:39 AM »
I tried a little experiment.  I unchecked only the box "enable skins for explorer extension" in program settings.  The box "Enable skins for simple user interface" is still checked.  I have run the on-demand scan twice but the icons never disappeared.  I don't know if this is a permanent fix or not.  I will post again later.


Problem still hasn't reoccurred while using the above settings.  If anyone else is having problems this is worth a try.  Good luck.  :)

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Re: Lost explorer icons on Win98
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2007, 01:52:39 PM »
I tried a little experiment.  I unchecked only the box "enable skins for explorer extension" in program settings.  The box "Enable skins for simple user interface" is still checked.  I have run the on-demand scan twice but the icons never disappeared.  I don't know if this is a permanent fix or not.  I will post again later.


Problem still hasn't reoccurred while using the above settings.  If anyone else is having problems this is worth a try.  Good luck.  :)


We have bad news.  The above changes don't prevent the problem.  Disabling all skins didn't help either.  The only fix that works for us is to avoid scanning archives during on-demand scans.  Good luck.

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Re: Lost explorer icons on Win98
« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2007, 03:37:38 PM »
Well I would suggest that isn't a bad idea anyway.

Archive (zip, etc.) files are by their nature are inert, you need to extract the files and then you have to run them to be a threat. Long before that happens avast's Standard Shield should have scanned them and before an executable is run that is scanned. Thorough is also by its design very thorough and perhaps a little overkill for routine use, were a Standard scan without archives should be adequate.
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Re: Lost explorer icons on Win98
« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2007, 05:54:59 PM »
The only fix that works for us is to avoid scanning archives during on-demand scans.
Another proof that low-resources computer will have troubles with skins, archive scanning, etc., all them high-resources consuming...
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Re: Lost explorer icons on Win98
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2007, 04:41:45 PM »
I am not sure how much "resource" Avast! needs but this is what it has to work with on my old system:
It should be enough...
http://www.avast.com/eng/system-requirements-avast-home.html

For a computer running Windows® 95/98/Me:
486 Processor, 32MB RAM and 50MB of free hard disk space.

Only the latest release version and the current beta cause this problem on our computers.  ???