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barathon

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avast and thunderbird 2.0.0.5
« on: July 31, 2007, 11:24:16 AM »
hi,

yesterday I changed my electronic mail service.
now I am with Thunderbird and previously I was with OE6.

when I send a message with OE6, it is possible to have a note in the outgoing message: "clean message"

with Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 this note does not appeared. :'(

have you some explainations?

thanks ;)

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Re: avast and thunderbird 2.0.0.5
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2007, 11:50:41 AM »
There is no difference in the way avast treats OE6 and Thunderbird (in fact avast has not got a clue that you are using either of them). 

What kind of account is this you are sending messages on?  Is this a regular POP/SMTP account? 

What is the port that you are using to connect to the SMTP server (is it port 25?).

Remember that you cannot see the added message in the "Sent" folder because the "clean" message is not added until the whole message is being transmitted out of your system.  The "clean" message can only be seen by the person the message is being sent to.
« Last Edit: July 31, 2007, 11:54:24 AM by alanrf »

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Re: avast and thunderbird 2.0.0.5
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2007, 10:10:09 AM »
Hi,
my accounts are the same in OE6 and TB 2.0.0.5
the POP/SMTP are the same:
pop: 110
smtp 587

the probleme is perhaps with TB
thanks :)


this the message in OE6
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Avast! Antivirus: Message entrant propre.

Base antivirus (VPS): 000762-4, 30/07/2007
Test du: 31/07/2007 13:56:05
avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software.
 
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Avast! Antivirus: Message sortant propre.

Base antivirus (VPS): 000762-4, 30/07/2007
Test du: 31/07/2007 11:12:02
avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software.
 
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Re: avast and thunderbird 2.0.0.5
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2007, 10:25:08 AM »
In your account in OE6 you are using SMTP port 25 to send out your emails.

When you set up this account in Thunderbird (I have to guess for some good reason to you) you decided not to use port 25 for SMTP (as you do in OE6) but to use port 587 (and probably TLS as the security option).

You have chosen with Thunderbird to use a secured connection to send your mail.  Secured connections cannot be scanned by avast (or any other antivirus product).  So avast does not scan the outbound message at all and the "clean" note is not inserted.

If you want the "clean" note inserted by avast you would need to edit the SMTP entry for the account in Thunderbird, set the port to 25 and the security option to "None".

If you want the mail scanned by avast and you want to use the secure connection there are other options available - but they are a bit more complex to set up.  Let us know if you want to do that.   
« Last Edit: August 03, 2007, 10:28:56 AM by alanrf »

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Re: avast and thunderbird 2.0.0.5
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2007, 09:03:16 AM »
I would like to use secure connection and than the mail would be scanned by avast. Could you give me some instructions?

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Re: avast and thunderbird 2.0.0.5
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2007, 03:26:50 PM »
I've a doubt about using avast with thunderbird without SSL. I've set up the mail client to work with avast throught POP, but the email than I receive don't show any message.

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Re: avast and thunderbird 2.0.0.5
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2007, 03:38:07 PM »
I've a doubt about using avast with thunderbird without SSL. I've set up the mail client to work with avast throught POP, but the email than I receive don't show any message.
Do you use any firewall? Is ashMaiSv.exe allowed to connect?
Are you using ports 110/25 (default) to receive and send email?
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Re: avast and thunderbird 2.0.0.5
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2007, 04:01:34 PM »
I use a firewall (Comodo). But I make a test with the firewall disabled and the message isn't showed.

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Re: avast and thunderbird 2.0.0.5
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2007, 04:09:41 PM »
Can you post a screenshot of this message?
To know how to post a screenshot, see http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=8982.0
You can use Gadwin PrintScreen to get a screenshot (http://www.gadwin.com/printscreen/) or the free version of WinSnap 1.1.10 (http://www.filehippo.com/download_winsnap/?2173).
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Re: avast and thunderbird 2.0.0.5
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2007, 04:25:32 PM »
A screenshot of your message? I'm sorry, I don't understand English very well, and I don't understand what do you try to tell me

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Re: avast and thunderbird 2.0.0.5
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2007, 04:32:50 PM »
A screenshot of your message? I'm sorry, I don't understand English very well, and I don't understand what do you try to tell me
The message is on a window.
I want to see this window to help you. You can capture (copy) this window using a screenshot application.
Then you post the picture (attach the file) here.
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Re: avast and thunderbird 2.0.0.5
« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2007, 04:40:17 PM »
I put a screenshoot of your message. I don't know if you want the forum message, the "message of infection or not" than I want to show with avast, the notification message that I receive on my email.
« Last Edit: September 12, 2007, 04:49:41 PM by breixo »

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Re: avast and thunderbird 2.0.0.5
« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2007, 04:58:16 PM »
I've a doubt about using avast with thunderbird without SSL. I've set up the mail client to work with avast throught POP, but the email than I receive don't show any message.


I assume you are talking about the insertion of a clean note ?
If so, first I feel this is of limited use as if it is being scanned then a clean note is rather pointless as if the email was infected all hell would break loose. Secondly if there is no alarm then you could assume it is clean. Thirdly I don't trust clean notes no matter what AV inserts them as there already a number of malicious email which have a 'this email has been scanned by (insert AV of choice) and is clean.' So I just don't see the value other than giving a warm fuzzy feeling in the insertion of a clean note.

If you are downloading the email directly from gmail using Thunderbird and using the SSL ports then avast isn't able to scan or insert a clean note in secure email. There is an extension that you can download gmail.

Before you check about clean note insertion first you have to confirm that avast is even scanning the email. The avast icon will rotate; there will be activity on the Internet Mail detailed view, Last scanned: and Scanned total: fields; there will be information in the email headers to indicate that it has been scanned, this happens for all scanned email regardless if you have asked for the insertion of a clean note.
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Re: avast and thunderbird 2.0.0.5
« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2007, 05:17:10 PM »
Yes, I was asking about a clean note. The provider than I'm using is Yahoo, and I'm using the 110 port (POP), but there is no activity. avast is not scanning the emails, but I don't know the reason.

Thank you very much, and thank you by your patience.