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SAS HAS GONE SOUTH
« on: January 21, 2009, 03:04:21 AM »
Is there another application out there that is as good as SAS ? Why? I have been using it since last April, but in the past few weeks it has become slower, and slower doing updates. Now after the first update down loade, the second half of the down load finally tells me (ctrl/alt/del), SAS is no longer responding ?? Today I un installed and reinstalled it twice.same prob. (WINDOWS ME). THANKS

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Re: SAS HAS GONE SOUTH
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2009, 03:36:21 AM »
SAS has never been fast on updates as it downloads the complete signature database unlike avast's incremental updates. Though I'm on dial-up so that is a little over 2MB so it is sloooow but that hasn't changed substantially since I started using it.

So it may be more to do with your connection, though not responding certainly isn't a connection issue. You are going to be hard pressed to find quality anti-spyware applications as good as SAS that will even run on winME.

I don't know if MBAM will work on winME, its downloads are a little smaller about 1.2MB.
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Re: SAS HAS GONE SOUTH
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2009, 04:07:43 AM »
I have recently noticed that the "gap" between the first (and main) part of the SAS updates has become a bit longer, then the second part of the update proceeds relatively quickly.
Try giving it a little longer. Could also try updating at different times of the day, there may be a particular time window when the servers aren't quite so busy.
As David says, SAS is a quality app; MBAM is the only other I know of in its' league. I don't know if that works on ME.
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Re: SAS HAS GONE SOUTH
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2009, 01:09:54 PM »
I just can't understand why doesn't they implement incremental updates...
I use SAS very little times, I just update it when I need...
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Re: SAS HAS GONE SOUTH
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2009, 03:07:46 PM »
I agree with others that it's likely a connection issue...  I've got SAS on both this machine, running Windows Me and my other which runs XP Pro and the downloads are slow on both due to a dial-up connection...

As to the issue of MBAM on Windows Me; I believe I checked that and learned that it is NOT possible to run MBAM on a Windows Me machine...

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Re: SAS HAS GONE SOUTH
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2009, 04:08:26 PM »
I just can't understand why doesn't they implement incremental updates...
I use SAS very little times, I just update it when I need...

I asked them that very thing, explaining that as a dial-up user downloading the full database every time is a pain in the rear, not to mention the additional bandwidth and load on their servers. I also mentioned avast's incremental update as a great example to follow.

I got a prompt response saying that it was to ensure integrity of the database so that someone/malware couldn't remove signatures and we all know avast can do that too with incremental updates, we do get a little spoilt with the avast updates ;D
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Re: SAS HAS GONE SOUTH
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2009, 07:09:46 PM »
Thanks to all !!!, and Tarq57, same identical situation.

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Re: SAS HAS GONE SOUTH
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2009, 07:48:47 PM »
I recently added MBAM (free version) to my defense "arsenal", so now include  that and SAS for my weekly on-demand scans.  Since both products update with full-database replacement rather than incrementally, I quickly decided there was no point updating other than just before a scan.

One other thing I'd like to see changed for both products, besides incremental updates (if possible).  Neither one apparently cleans up after itself after updating, so there's 3 or 4 megs of temp files left behind each time that need removed with Disk Cleanup.  Not a big deal, it just seems a little sloppy to me for such otherwise high-quality apps.
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Re: SAS HAS GONE SOUTH
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2009, 09:50:51 PM »
@MikeBCda;

Might I suggest a little program that I use...  It's called "CleanTemp"...  You can Google it to find it...  Works fine on both of my machines and cleans up after SAS quite nicely...  :)

I run this automatically first thing in the morning so that I don't have to worry about running Disk Cleanup or the like manually.

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Re: SAS HAS GONE SOUTH
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2009, 01:46:12 AM »
 SUPERAntiSpyware.com Replied:

Hi
You must be using a dial-up connection.  SUPERAntiSpyware is a very Internet-heavy application (our updates are very large).  It is normal for it to take a long time to download and start up.  Our program will be "not responding" while downloading while over dial-up.  Our updates are about 8mb if you want to use that in your estimation on how long it will take, based on what you know if your connection speed.

Sorry we can't be more help
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Re: SAS HAS GONE SOUTH
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2009, 01:53:29 AM »
Well their guestimate on updates is way off 8MB would take 24-32 minutes on dial-up at 3-4 mins per MB. My updates take about 5-6 minutes, though I don't tend to time it, just start it off and continue browsing (normally the forums).
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Re: SAS HAS GONE SOUTH
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2009, 02:04:30 AM »
I don't know DavidR, When I start and end SAS it is about 45min to an hour for me, and I am on dial-up. It has just (for me any way) gotten longer and longer and that was there answer.

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Re: SAS HAS GONE SOUTH
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2009, 03:09:11 AM »
If MBAM works with winME the updates are about half the size.

But even though I have the Pro version of SAS I generally only update once a week and carry on browsing whilst it is downloading in the background.
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Re: SAS HAS GONE SOUTH
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2009, 03:34:26 AM »
Assuming the temp files left behind are essentially a copy of the downloaded update, SAS is currently around 2.8 megs (total for both parts) and, as others have noted, MBAM about half that.
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Re: SAS HAS GONE SOUTH
« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2009, 03:05:37 PM »
I don't notice any temp files left behind, what are they called and were are they located ?
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