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Prevx attitude agaisn't AV companies
« on: May 22, 2009, 01:01:06 PM »
Hi,

After look at Prevx website I saw they display a chart with what other AV's failed to detect on their opinion.

This chart is useless because doesn't have enough information to evaluate it, and I don't know if this is a legal attitude from them.

I, and other user, already ask to Prevx support to explain that on Wilders Security forum, but every reply didn't have any sense...
You can see it here, and on the next 2 pages...

Can the avast! team say something about this?

What is your opinion?

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Re: Prevx attitude agaisn't AV companies
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2009, 01:27:30 PM »
-= ESET is myteriously one of the lowest.. ESET has the best proactive detection, moreover, avast at the bottom..? I guess they're just jealous..!! :P :P :P I love debates.. Maybe, I'll consider joining.. :-)
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Re: Prevx attitude agaisn't AV companies
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2009, 03:10:27 PM »
1) our user base is quite huge... no surprise that we are "too bad" in the graph..
2) i don't know if PrevX is able to get the exact configuration of each AV product (running shields and their sensitivity), so the misses may be caused by the wrong usage of an primary antivirus
3) anything else is in the competence of PrevX, their marketing practices are not our bussiness

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Re: Prevx attitude agaisn't AV companies
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2009, 03:12:45 PM »
But they can just publish that without any problem?

Did you read their explanation?
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Re: Prevx attitude agaisn't AV companies
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2009, 03:32:21 PM »
as far as PrevX does not break the law (in my opinion it's legit but it makes a negative feeling to show the weaknesses of others rather than to show own advantages) there's nothing to punish them for...

this only represents my opinion, i'm not speaking for our company now..

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Re: Prevx attitude agaisn't AV companies
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2009, 03:59:37 PM »
Can we trust in such a company? I've used earlier Prevx freewares... they became sharewares... I hate this. I never used a Prevx program again.
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Re: Prevx attitude agaisn't AV companies
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2009, 04:03:12 PM »
-= I just felt curious & researched.. Their graph says that IEXPLORER.EXE a.k.a

(1) SC Keylogger
(2) Colfusion
(3) Infostealer
(4) Delf.s / Delf

was not detected by Avast, Symantec, ESET & etc.. but:

Avast 2007 VPS
Symantec 2007
ESET 1.14136


-= They should be a little more "professional".. and do their advertisement in a noble way..
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Re: Prevx attitude agaisn't AV companies
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2009, 04:07:46 PM »
Prevx - Good Idea
False Positives - Bad Idea
Unfortunately, Prevx suffers from many false positives and causes many problems. IMHO
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Re: Prevx attitude agaisn't AV companies
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2009, 05:32:04 PM »
Ok this is rather a bit, insulting for AV companies...

As far as im concerned, im an Avast! user and it hurt my feelings... :'(

Dnt decide on ur own as if ur the BOSS^^ >:(

Uhhhh they are sooo arrogant!"Other security products are failing..."uhhh i feel sicK!

BTW does their chart have some proofs if it is really 100% correct?

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Re: Prevx attitude agaisn't AV companies
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2009, 12:11:56 AM »
Hi cinchez,

If you use these practices it will certainly backfire on you. This is building bad karma for them. A better policy is respect for competitors and a positive attitude towards the strong aspects of programs and tools.
We have a forum here where next to using avast, users are also advised to use many specific anti-malware tools and supporting non-resident av/anti-malware and analyzing products. We have friendly relations with geeks from friendly av forums, I know some also are active here even when they are not using avast themselves (I consider that as a big complement for the know-how stored here), we have many a contact with people that are official malware fighters from anti-malware forums and trained and qualified at anti-malware universities or now malware analyzers for instance for MBAM (miekiemoes). This has not worked out wrong for the avast webforum. I cannot say that off-course as contributor to the forum, but I think where anti-malware lore is concerned we are one of the better forums around, well at least I can say this I learned an awful lot here and found many a good virtual friend here,

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Re: Prevx attitude agaisn't AV companies
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2009, 07:11:50 AM »
@polonus

Thanks sir^^

Its just,,,somehow my feelings blurted out 4 that particular reason^^
and i seem to cant hold it^^

so that happened^^
Sorry^^

Thanks again^^ ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Prevx attitude agaisn't AV companies
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2009, 04:08:21 PM »
I would say that is perfectly valid, when it comes as something in the region of a 70MB download, for a program which theoretically be (as) light (as a 'Cloud'). This is over twice the size of avast, which is firmly fixed in Terra Firma...
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Re: Prevx attitude agaisn't AV companies
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2009, 04:33:23 PM »
-= I feel very sorry for Panda..
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Re: Prevx attitude agaisn't AV companies
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2009, 04:41:04 PM »
-= I feel very sorry for Panda..
I feel very sorry for Panda users ;D
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