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Re:Avast review rated #11
« Reply #30 on: May 19, 2004, 09:21:39 PM »
That site has

Bitdefender as #1
Here is virusbtn.com rating
http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archives/products.xml?bitdefender.xml

PcCillin as #2
Here is virusbtn.com rating
http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archives/products.xml?trend.xml

Avg as #3
Here is virusbtn.com's rating
http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archives/products.xml?avg.xml

and our AVAST is ranked 11th
again here is virusbtn.com's ranking
http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archives/products.xml?avist.xml

Seems to me that our AVAST can hang with any of those and outright trounce most or all of the 11 on the list.  Futher proof that this review is CRAP!

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Re:Avast review rated #11
« Reply #31 on: May 19, 2004, 10:24:05 PM »
We are loosing time with this rank...  :-*
Ask to anybody is avast is the 11th or not  :P
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Re:Avast review rated #11
« Reply #32 on: May 19, 2004, 11:55:15 PM »
 ;D :o

http://www.anti-virus-software-review.com/index.html

WHERE THE HELL IS IN FEATURE COMPARSION TABLE AVAST 4.1 ?

i answer myself, they NOT included it to make sure rest of AVs not looks like joke :)
(ok to be fair just most) ...
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Re:Avast review rated #11
« Reply #33 on: May 20, 2004, 01:18:25 AM »
I won't bother writing them myself, but I'm sure others here still will (besides the ones who already have, that is).

One suggestion is to facetiously "compliment" them on apparently having invented what must be brand-new testing methods and benchmarks, since their results disagreed with just about every other third-party service's assessment of not only avast but the others as well.
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Re:Avast review rated #11
« Reply #34 on: May 20, 2004, 02:02:29 AM »
Scanning Capabilities   Avast!Pro 4.1.396   Avast!Home 4.1.396
On-access Scanning   Yes   Yes
Realtime Scanning   Yes   Yes
On-demand Scanning   Yes   Yes
Scheduled Scanning   Yes   Yes
Heuristic Scanning   Yes   Yes
Manual Scanning   Yes   Yes
Script Blocking   Only infected   No
Scan Compressed Files   Yes   Yes
Auto-Clean Infected Files   Yes   Yes
Quarantines Infected Files   Yes   Yes
Email POP3 Protection   Yes   Yes
WebMail Protection   Yes   Yes
Instant Messaging Protection   Yes   Yes
Other Features      
Password Protect Settings   Yes   No
Pass ICSA Tests   Yes   Yes
Integrated Firewall   No it's AV   No it's AV
Updates      
Automatic Definition Updates   Yes   Yes
Automatic Program Updates   Yes   Yes
Manual Definition Updates   Yes   Yes
Manual Program Updates   Yes   Yes
Yearly Subscriptions to Definition Updates   Yes   Yes
Technical Support      
Toll-Free Phone   No   No
Fee-based Phone   Yes   Yes
Email   Yes   Yes
Chat   Yes   Yes
Knowledge Base/FAQs   Yes   Yes
Product details   Yes   Yes
Supported Configurations      
Windows 95   Yes   Yes
Windows 98/98SE   Yes   Yes
Windows ME   Yes   Yes
Windows NT 4.0   Yes   Yes
Windows 2000 Pro   Yes   Yes
Windows 2003 Server   Yes   Yes
Windows XP/XP Pro   Yes   Yes
Macintosh   No   No
Linux   No *1   No *1
MS-DOS   No *2   No *2


*1 - Avast use standalone product for Linux, VBA100%award      
*2 - For this obsolete OS there is Avast! 7.5 , still updated      

No mention this product received various VBA100% awards.
No mention this product support also various P2P programs.
No mention this product support critical PUSH update feature.
...etc..

- Avast help files is part of installation, reachable over F1 in AV main program window.
- Avast support forums actively visited by Alwil staff
- various types of tests for viruses are usually in rating very good upto 100%
- Your script blocking description is incorrect, AV must know this script flaw/exploit to
be able block it , so they can't stop virus if these script definitions are not updated too.
Or You meant script blocker which totally prevent execution fo ANY Java, VBS, VM etc scripts?
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Script Blocking  
Script Blocking technology monitors Java and VBS scripts and alerts users of virus-like behavior. They stop these viruses before they can infect a system without needing virus definitions.    

Your site is now point of jokes for publishing awfull reviews.

P.S. Your miserable score for NOD32 (probably top1 AV in world) seems to be questionable too ...

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well let see if they learned theirs lesson  ;D ;)
« Last Edit: May 20, 2004, 02:16:56 AM by Dwarden »
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Re:Avast review rated #11
« Reply #35 on: May 20, 2004, 09:24:49 PM »
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Macintosh   No   No

and I want to see this Fixed SOON
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Staind

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Re:Avast review rated #11
« Reply #36 on: May 20, 2004, 10:39:20 PM »
Hello.

I recently read your list of Anti virus reviews and I'd have to say that
the review is total bogus (found here:
http://www.anti-virus-software-review.com/). I hate to inform you of
this but Grisoft AVG has only passed four AV "INW" tests, while Avast!
passed nine.  To say that AVG's scanner is much better than Avast is
totally bogus (VirusBT ratings here:
http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archives/products.xml?).  Another thing
is,  Avast! has much more features than AVG, allowing real time scanning
of applications such as trillian, kazaa, DC++, etc.  AVG does not offer
these features.  Also, when AVG picks up a virus there is no automatic
removal, you must scan the entire computer to remove the virus while
Avast!'s resident shield can do it for you.

Another thing is you didn't specify the entire amount of support that
Avast! offers you (which I know other people have already sent you
emails about).  They have a forum, phone and email support.  Plus, a
large group of dedicated users who are willingly to help at any time.  
Maybe if your reviewer actually went to the Avast! website (which is
www.avast.com , please forward that to him) he would realize this.

My last problem with the review is the reviewer claiming that Avast!
looked like shit: "It also would have a much better look if it was
consistent throughout the package. For example, the "on-demand" scanner
window has a nice interface which is intuitive and easy to use. Most of
the other screens have a standard Microsoft Windows look and feel to
them. Overall, it doesn't seem quite as polished as many of the other
programs reviewed."  Well, I'm sorry but when you rate an Anti virus
based on it's look there's a fucking problem.  That comment really
pissed me off, because AVG looks like it's from some Windows 3.1 -
blocky, disgusting and overall shitty.

Thanks for reading.
PS. I also liked how the reviewer did not know how to average scores.  
Since when did getting 5 ratings of "2" result in an overall score of
1.5?, I also liked how in the review Ease of setup was marked as rated
3, while in the overview it was marked as rated 2.  It's obvious the
person who did this review is biased, and should be stopped from making
more reviews so people don't miss out on great products, such as Avast!

S.Z.Craftec

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Re:Avast review rated #11
« Reply #37 on: May 20, 2004, 11:05:51 PM »
My last problem with the review is the reviewer claiming that Avast!
looked like shit: "It also would have a much better look if it was
consistent throughout the package. For example, the "on-demand" scanner
window has a nice interface which is intuitive and easy to use. Most of
the other screens have a standard Microsoft Windows look and feel to
them. Overall, it doesn't seem quite as polished as many of the other
programs reviewed."  Well, I'm sorry but when you rate an Anti virus
based on it's look there's a fucking problem.  That comment really
pissed me off, because AVG looks like it's from some Windows 3.1 -
blocky, disgusting and overall shitty.

As one of two avast! skin designers, I must interupt here... no one tried to rate avast! by it's look. They just mentioned that as one of few other normal things that should be rated in all programs, not just avast! Let's be realistic... GUI or Graphical User Interface is very important... very important. Maybe not to you, but to all others, that's for sure. Just ask them, I'm 100% sure what kind of answers you'll get...

Second thing - if you already answered to them regarding avast! look the way you did, you could also mention that their review maker forgot to take a closer look at avast! and all other features as changeable skins. I mean, if someone has all those privileges to review such a good product, he needs to know product that he reviews as his own palm... he can not make review and I'm 300% sure he doesn't know anything about avast! forum , avast! skins download section, or any other useful part of this comunity....

As they already forgot, you could mention that there are some nasty, gamey, modern, professional, plain or neat skins in there... something little for everybody. Just try to find one thematic that is not covered by our skins. I think, we deserved that people find out about our hard work, at least...

If they said "avast! is ugly, no graphic interface, blah, blah...", you could say this: "...no it's not true ! avast! has more than 15 good looking skins. You just have to try them and find one apropriate for you...", and not "f**k the look of the program..."

You reacted on their review, so you could give them some directions.

Cheers !
« Last Edit: November 06, 2004, 01:48:21 PM by S.Z.C »

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Re:Avast review rated #11
« Reply #38 on: May 21, 2004, 02:05:40 AM »
My main point was though, that GUI shouldn't have really been added into the ratings. Honestly, if you had a choice between a crap looking Anti virus and could find every virus, or one that looked great and found very few viruses which are you going to pick? (luckily, Avast! looks great and finds viruses :P)

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Re:Avast review rated #11
« Reply #39 on: May 21, 2004, 02:06:04 AM »
Oh, his response to me was very fulfilling:

Forget Grisoft, what about the other products that are ranked higher?

Why aren't you ranking yourself against the top products?

-sorry about the double posting.
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Re:Avast review rated #11
« Reply #40 on: May 21, 2004, 02:20:22 AM »
Oh, his response to me was very fulfilling:

Forget Grisoft, what about the other products that are ranked higher?

Why aren't you ranking yourself against the top products?

-sorry about the double posting.

Sorry, but I realy don't understand who are you talking to... why should I rank myself against those top products ? Not quite clear to me I must confess... Probably, that's just quote from someone's reply to your letter to them... I don't know... put that under quotes next time please, it will be much clearer...

My point was... when  they said avast is ugly, you were angry like we all were angry, but you didn't say to them that they are wrong about that... the truth is - avast! is not ugly, avast! is very, very "pretty"... let them find me one antivirus that has so much nice skins and what's most important, in the same time catches so many viruses... this product is top product ! It's efficiency, it's look and what's most important Alwil cares what their customers and users think about their products... I think those things puts avast! directly to the top... correct me if I'm wrong...
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Re:Avast review rated #11
« Reply #41 on: May 21, 2004, 06:17:10 AM »
 ;DI just got avast last week and have told a few more people about it. It s great. Had Norten 2003 and it crashed my puter  (windows Me)  all the time . Took it off and used A V G  It missed a lot of virus. I rate avast #1
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Re:Avast review rated #11
« Reply #42 on: May 21, 2004, 09:14:02 AM »
Hi Everyone

I just wanted to add my two cents worth as well.  I just wanted to let everyone know that I have used 8 out of the 11 products (including Avast!) listed on that review page so I feel that I should have a fair idea on how they all rate against Avast!.  They are BitDefender, AVG, Norton, McAfee, PC-Cillin, , Etrust EZ Antivirus, Panda Antivirus (Platinum and Titanium) and finally Avast! Antivirus Pro.

Let me assure you all that NONE of them rate as good as Avast.  I have just about tried all the antivirus products out there and I have uninstalled every single one of them except for Avast.  The simple reason is the fact that avast inserts a note on all incoming and outgoing messages on whether the email is cleaned, the database file that is has used and the date that it was scanned/tested.  I know that AVG has this as well, but what has been mentioned on this thread earlier, AVG doesn't pick up anywhere as near viruses/trojans that avast does.

I  have Avast Pro as my antivirus, Sygate Personal Firewall Pro and the firewall that comes with XP as my firewall.  I also use Foxmail as my email client.  I can now finally say that I feel safe with these products whereas previously, I couldn't.  

Lastly, I would like to say a very big thankyou to the developers that put all their hard work into creating Avast HE and Pro.  You have made a terrific product that we can all be proud of.  It's a shame that not many others are aware of how good this antivirus product really is.  The majority of people normally go for the "big name" products like Norton, McAfee, Panda and AVG.

Also, would also like to thank everyone for their input with this forum.  I have had the need to ask for help in the past and a response has been quickly given, but I can't say the same thing to the support for Norton or McAfee.

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Re:Avast review rated #11
« Reply #43 on: May 21, 2004, 10:13:49 AM »
If you guys are interested in a serious review, please look here: http://agn-www.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/vtc/agn_content_vtc.htm

All the other reviews are "coloured".

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Re:Avast review rated #11
« Reply #44 on: May 21, 2004, 11:55:56 AM »
- Reply to bear020369 -

I  have Avast Pro as my antivirus, Sygate Personal Firewall Pro and the firewall that comes with XP as my firewall.  I also use Foxmail as my email client.  I can now finally say that I feel safe with these products whereas previously, I couldn't.  

Just one small remark... that's good that you finally can feel safe. It's not neccessary to have two firewalls activated, though. If you have hardware fireawall, then it's good thing to have software firewall too, but certainly not 2 software firewalls... it's almost same like you never want 2 antiviruses to run in the same time on your computer. Believe me, you will not be more protected, but the only thing is, you can make your system much more unstable using 2 firewalls in the same time... believe me, they can fight each other...

My advice: turn OFF Windows standard  firewall, and use your Sygate only, of course accompanied by avast! (Greatest antivirus in the world). Sygate is fantastic product, and also it's very light on system resources... believe me, it will give you enough protection that you safely can go and disable Windows firewall. Two software firewalls can give you just headache and troubles...

Thanks for reading this !

S.Z.C
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