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Dch48

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Re: Avast folks, I made a mistake
« Reply #60 on: July 05, 2010, 09:19:09 PM »
Mac--MSE stands for Microsoft Security Essentials which is their new free antivirus product. It gets it's update through the Windows Update system so you have to have that turned on to stay updated. What I was saying is that if you never installed MSE, you would not get updates in WU related to antivirus.

If you've been getting a lot of Windows Updates, it's probably because that computer wasn't used for a while before you got it. The updates can pile up and a lot of times you will only receive an update after the one previous to it has been installed. After you get caught up, you should only get updates once a month unless Microsoft thinks something is critical enough that they provide what is called an "out of band" update before the normal "Patch Tuesday" (the second Tuesday of every month) comes along.  The combination of past unapplied updates and a dialup connection can make getting XP up to date seem interminable but it will eventually get there  ;D.

It's also pretty apparent that since there is no manufacturer info, the machine was either home built or built by a small computer shop. You can get a lot of information about what is in it by right clicking on My Computer, clicking on Properties, then on the Hardware tab and finally on Device manager. You can then look through all the entries there to see what processor, disk drives, sound and video cards, and many other things, are present.

I used to do computer troubleshooting over the phone and I encountered people who know far less than you. I told one guy to right click and he said "what?" I said "click your right mouse button". To which he replied "Right mouse button? I only have one mouse".  Another guy was wanting to install something that was on 3 or 4 floppy disks. I told him to insert the first disk and run setup from it. A few minutes later he says "It says to insert the second disk". I told him that was normal and to do what it said. He comes back about 30 seconds later and says, "Okay, I put the second disk in but now they're both in there and it won't work and I can't get either one of them back out".  Compared to those people, you're a computer guru so keep plugging and you'll get it.


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Re: Avast folks, I made a mistake
« Reply #61 on: July 06, 2010, 03:08:49 AM »
Invariably the movie is promoted as a ... wardrobe malfunction regarding some Hollywood starlet. The reality is even less appealing.)
Lovely choice of wording, never heard that one before.  ;D
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Re: Avast folks, I made a mistake
« Reply #62 on: July 06, 2010, 05:36:29 AM »
Invariably the movie is promoted as a ... wardrobe malfunction regarding some Hollywood starlet. The reality is even less appealing.)
Lovely choice of wording, never heard that one before.  ;D
Wouldn't it have to be less appealing?  ;D

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Re: Avast folks, I made a mistake
« Reply #63 on: July 06, 2010, 06:13:45 PM »
No if anything appears to be missing, it will matter.

In case you don't know about Windows Security Center
- Start button -> Control Panel -> Security Center

This will take you to Windows Update options, Firrewall, and Virus protection

In the pane on the left hand side, you click the second choice down 'Check for the latest Windows updates'
The should take you to Windows Download Center, but you may be waylaid while yr browser is checked
You need the correct software

You are given a choice of checking the Express recommended updates / or Custom with optional as well.
In both cases you can expand the update info to see what they comprise.

NEXT go to Virus protection and press Recommendations
This will take you to Windows settings for an antivirus - you will want to choose to monitor Yourself
By checking this box, you are allowing avast to take command of antivirus responsibilities
This both offline (System) and online (Web).
The next update actions avast as Windows virus protection - check update turns Virus Protection 'ON'
and the green light comes on

You might as well run at least Windows firewall - so Firewall tab also wants green light 'ON'
You will find info on different and available free firewalls when you search the avast forum

you may know it all this about Security Center yrself anyway
sorry to be so mechanic about all Mac_Muz but often we get other users, newbs and that come to the forum, so you give us a opportunity to put down some stuff, our experiences and that

Oh yes the orange 'a' ball in system tray, right-hand corner of screen, you can right-click that icon
what opens is choices for for avast Control, top of the list is avastUI ('Open avast! user interface')
The page that opens is Summary and gives Current Status
- if this page does not open or if the page is not Secured then the installation may have been unstable

Under the MAINTENANCE tab you see various Options including yr Update choices
All that is needed is an engine and definitions update for Windows at action avast and green light turn 'ON"

I know how to go there this way. - Start button -> Control Panel -> Security Center.

Being mechanical is very good for me.

I think I have a handle on avast, with the right clickings and selections of things. Avast is set to auto update and it does. Just before i installed the wrong avast I had AVG and I ran a scan on that. Some items were in the AVG version if the chest, but it was all deleted so far as i know when AVG was uninstalled.

With Avast 4.7 Pro i ran a scan and it came up clean. Then Once i got settled on How To uninstall 4.7 pro and installed 5.0 I ran another scan and came up clean.

With the old already in the box adaware I ran a scan and it came up clean. It was uninstalled for malaware bytes which was installed and ran a scan to be clean.

A main worry of mine was corrupting the registery, which i may have done, but I see no problems yet if it is. If the registry is found to be sick I am in deep kimshee, since I don't know how to deal with that. But that is another bridge to cross.

The win98 system was bad from day 1 and brand new, so i was expecting xp to be as bad. I knew what the win 98 set up was since I had help to buy it. What I didn't know was that state of the art is a 90 day deal at best. So I spent too much money, thinking the PC would be good for 20+ years. My cars, trucks vans and bike all meet that criteria. I sell them off after i can no longer stand to look at them. I was pretty sure the PC would never see a salted winter road in Cow Hampster either.

I will need to spend a little time to review the win update sections, and turn on UpDates. Review what is on the left and etc. I will get it turned back on, and see if i can request updates, rather than allow them to come at random times.

I will seek out with the detailed instructions on how to allow avast to over rule windows, but accept windows.

Thank you!  Mac... BTW I am Mac a real one.. The Muz was added because so many sites needed more letters, and I shoot flintlocks a kind of muzzle loader, hence the Muz. So it's fine by me if I am called just mac.

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Re: Avast folks, I made a mistake
« Reply #64 on: July 06, 2010, 07:10:16 PM »
Mac--MSE stands for Microsoft Security Essentials which is their new free antivirus product. It gets it's update through the Windows Update system so you have to have that turned on to stay updated. What I was saying is that if you never installed MSE, you would not get updates in WU related to antivirus.

If you've been getting a lot of Windows Updates, it's probably because that computer wasn't used for a while before you got it. The updates can pile up and a lot of times you will only receive an update after the one previous to it has been installed. After you get caught up, you should only get updates once a month unless Microsoft thinks something is critical enough that they provide what is called an "out of band" update before the normal "Patch Tuesday" (the second Tuesday of every month) comes along.  The combination of past unapplied updates and a dialup connection can make getting XP up to date seem interminable but it will eventually get there  ;D.

It's also pretty apparent that since there is no manufacturer info, the machine was either home built or built by a small computer shop. You can get a lot of information about what is in it by right clicking on My Computer, clicking on Properties, then on the Hardware tab and finally on Device manager. You can then look through all the entries there to see what processor, disk drives, sound and video cards, and many other things, are present.

I used to do computer troubleshooting over the phone and I encountered people who know far less than you. I told one guy to right click and he said "what?" I said "click your right mouse button". To which he replied "Right mouse button? I only have one mouse".  Another guy was wanting to install something that was on 3 or 4 floppy disks. I told him to insert the first disk and run setup from it. A few minutes later he says "It says to insert the second disk". I told him that was normal and to do what it said. He comes back about 30 seconds later and says, "Okay, I put the second disk in but now they're both in there and it won't work and I can't get either one of them back out".  Compared to those people, you're a computer guru so keep plugging and you'll get it.



Dch, That's nice to know, that once a month updates could be expected. I was getting more than several a day. This system was off line for 60 days just here where i know it was off line. before that I can assume it was off line a time, but no clue as to how long a time that was. Too many things all down loading at random and at the same instant gag up the 56 k dial up, and if you ask me the systems gags to a stand still.

In order to do anything i turned that up dates off, and expected a warning or notice by now telling me a up date was in the wings waiting for permissions. So far not a thing has happened that i would see to say any update is waiting.

As a x foreign car tech, I know better than to stuff 2 floppies into one drive. What i don't know is what I should do if anything about this system thinking it does have an 'A" Drive. Once it did, and i am sure because there is washer and screw marks in the mount rails inside the case. I am dead sure that there WAS an 'A' drive, and I am as sure the xp system thinks it IS Still there!

I am dead certain that there is no 'A' Drive device period, at this time inside the tower. So should I try and tell xp it's gone? Or should I install one of several A drive units hanging out? There is a dead gateway system here with one, my old dell hell, both ran Win 98. Then there is a beater xp running at 750 Hrz or something with less than 1 gig memory that all it did was read a set up for a machine we used to make, and is scrap for parts.

I can run a screw driver just fine ya know.  ;D The thing is I will never use a floppy disk in my life again so far as I know.

The other drive in this box is a dvd burner/reader. I KNOW it is. I was going to add another, and even bopught one, but there is no 2nd port for the IDE port. I didn't know what SATA was and had i bought one of the dvd drives for SATA it would be installed now.

Then I was told I didn't need 2 dvd burners in the first place. The shipping just about equaled the cost of the dvd burner, so shipping it back at more cost isn't a wise idea since that will far exceed the cost spent for the unit itself.

I had envisioned myself making millions doing Japanese Beetle porn DVD movies  ;D

I fooled around in sys info, and if this works this is what it says there.
OS Name   Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Version   5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 Build 2600
OS Manufacturer   Microsoft Corporation
System Name   GWYN
System Manufacturer   MSI
System Model   MS-7309
System Type   X86-based PC
Processor   x86 Family 15 Model 107 Stepping 1 AuthenticAMD ~2109 Mhz
BIOS Version/Date   MS-7309 V1.9, 8/31/2007
SMBIOS Version   2.5
Windows Directory   C:\WINDOWS
System Directory   C:\WINDOWS\system32
Boot Device   \Device\HarddiskVolume1
Locale   United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer   Version = "5.1.2600.5512 (xpsp.080413-2111)"
User Name   GWYN\Monack
Time Zone   Eastern Daylight Time
Total Physical Memory   2,048.00 MB
Available Physical Memory   1.31 GB
Total Virtual Memory   2.00 GB
Available Virtual Memory   1.96 GB
Page File Space   3.79 GB
Page File   C:\pagefile.sys

it worked.

Gwyn is my wife. I have no idea what Monack is, means or nuthin'. The folks that gave this tower to use had the name Gywn\Monack installed the day i turned it on, and that name is as good as any to me.


More or less going in this way, ' My Computer, clicking on Properties, then on the Hardware tab and finally on Device manager. You can then look through all the entries there to see what processor, disk drives, sound and video cards, and many other things, are present.' I can open everything and made a print screen file, but I will be damned if I can figure out how to get the file on here. And then the page is more than one page long. So the bit map I made is pretty big in size.


What really happens if I right click on the short cut to my computer to get Properties is only 2 tabs show general and shortcut, w/ short cut being the one highlighted.

Then if i open Start/My Computer/ right click properties, then I see 7 tabs, of which one is hardware/device manger, and from there is where and how i made the paint Prt Screen.

I can use windows explore too, not as well on xp maybe, but that will come.

On the old win98 Dell, i had a MS Game of WW-2 air planes, but don't recall the name of the game. It was Euro theater, and the game had around 9 planes you could fly.

With a little help I ended up with every plane in the game flyable to some point or another, and added 300+ more more planes from the web, plus I changed weather, locations around the world and few not in the world, and learned about the file system in windows explore that way somewhat. Once I even had a patch, well I still do on a disk, but don't know if it would work on xp. The patch allowed the game to be played with no disk in a drive.

That isn't important anyway, since no one plays that game any more on line. It was just a way to keep my interest to learn the file system really. Other than that on line back then for the game i was Cpt Von Dervare, and I was infamouse in a Focke-Wulf 190.   Somebody has to be the bad guy  ;D And i was. If you say Von Dervare several times fast it comes to you just what that means.  ;D

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Re: Avast folks, I made a mistake
« Reply #65 on: July 06, 2010, 10:00:10 PM »
@ Mac_Muz

As you do not like to show your country in your profile nor choose to update your signature in your PROFILE you seem to need a bit of assistance to become comfortable with your system.  ???

Your hotmail.com email is visible for spammers and scammers.

Dch48

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Re: Avast folks, I made a mistake
« Reply #66 on: July 06, 2010, 11:18:58 PM »
So--you have a dual core AMD processor on an MSI motherboard with 2 gigs of RAM. That's not too shabby. MSI makes very good AMD based motherboards. You're actually a little ahead of my desktop which also has MSI and AMD but only an Athlon64 3500+ single core processor. If you could only get a high speed internet connection, you'd be fine for the next 3 years at least which is when Microsoft ends all support for XP.
Your system could run Windows 7 if you ever get the urge to update.

I also started with Win98SE and have many games from that day. I can get them all to run in XP. Some don't require any modifications but some have to be run in compatibility mode which is very easy to set up. I still play Need For Speed 3, Hot Pursuit and still have all my modified  downloaded tracks and cars, some of which I have modified myself. I have a '57 Chevy car that I downloaded and since it was way too fast and not realistic enough in performance, I modified it to have the two speed Powerglide automatic transmission and the actual gear ratios, tire sizes, redline RPM, and shift points that a real '57 with the V8 engine would have. It's very slow from a standing start but not bad at all once it gets going. Just like the actual car was. (I had one as my first car and have always loved them).

Mac_Muz

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Re: Avast folks, I made a mistake
« Reply #67 on: July 07, 2010, 01:17:36 AM »
@ Mac_Muz

As you do not like to show your country in your profile nor choose to update your signature in your PROFILE you seem to need a bit of assistance to become comfortable with your system.  ???

Your hotmail.com email is visible for spammers and scammers.

That isn't true, what is my time to be inside when chore must happen. I will fill that info out, and probably more than anyone wants or cares about.

Any place i ever went on line my e-mail is open to all, and yeah I get plenty of junk mail, all sort of 'confidential offers from Africa, I seem to have a lot of relitives in diamond mining. Even the FBI is said to be wanting a chat with me over riches and gold I never saw. Then it seems I need all sorts of meds like viagra, and bust size improvements. Why I even get prayers for Alah. Must be that Muz thing eh?

After i reply to Dch and follow some directions mkis gave me I will fill out that profile.

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Re: Avast folks, I made a mistake
« Reply #68 on: July 07, 2010, 01:26:22 AM »
Dch, I took a few flying lessons, but in married life with a son money got tight, so I never got a lic. What I learned made me a bad a$$ in the game. Most guys had just stock game planes so in most games on line I used a stock plane the 190. That thing flies like a brick, but if you are clever you can dive in and kill a bomber and fly away at faster speeds than the Mustang can, just like in real war. I took out a lot of bombers in the bomb run game from below, concentrating fire on the tail and one engine. then roll over and dive for more speed and get away. The only other game I had was the normal lesson game for flying 2000 something by MS.

I didn't know you could have a 57 chevy game and mod the car to suit you.

Well off to follow mkis instructions and then do up the profile.

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Re: Avast folks, I made a mistake
« Reply #69 on: July 07, 2010, 01:37:20 AM »
mkis, I can't find, NEXT go to Virus protection and press 'Recommendations'.

All 3 green lights are on, but I want to do this:
NEXT go to Virus protection and press Recommendations
This will take you to Windows settings for an antivirus - you will want to choose to monitor Yourself
By checking this box, you are allowing avast to take command of antivirus responsibilities
This both offline (System) and online (Web).
The next update actions avast as Windows virus protection - check update turns Virus Protection 'ON'
and the green light comes on

Mac_Muz

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Re: Avast folks, I made a mistake
« Reply #70 on: July 07, 2010, 01:51:38 AM »
test? Did the profile and can find no submit after doing it. Hoping this post does it...some how

Nope try again.

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Re: Avast folks, I made a mistake
« Reply #71 on: July 07, 2010, 01:59:06 AM »
Looks like you already have actioned avast as (resident) antivirus for yr Windows.

In Start - Control Panel - Security Center you have three tab sections in the main pane - Firewall, Automatic Updates, and Virus Protection
- under Virus Protection you will see Recommendations - click this and dialog box opens and you will see the box to tick -
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Re: Avast folks, I made a mistake
« Reply #72 on: July 07, 2010, 02:10:24 AM »
mkis, I can't find the button or word 'Recommendations' there????

Working out my profile I got a too big flag. I was trying a common avatar I use but avast says it is too big and does not say how big it can be. I have no art program in this system, The one I had on win 98 won't run in xp. That was photoshop 3 that came with a scanner. Simple and easy to use, but I tried to run that dc and it won't.

I see 3 vertical tabs in Security Center, but when i click on Virus Protection it opens up a bit more to say avast reports it is upto date. No box to check off, no word 'Recommendations'.

how that got done i can't say.
« Last Edit: July 07, 2010, 02:14:15 AM by Mac_Muz »

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Re: Avast folks, I made a mistake
« Reply #73 on: July 07, 2010, 02:30:33 AM »
Ok the profile is done. 2 things are my year and month are real, the day is a lie, but close to the right day.

The map I did is about 6 miles from where i really live. Not to be a lie, but to show a unique geological form. A on land Ring Dike, and once I lived almost exactly on the location marker.

What is left of the volcano tops out just over 3,200 ft, but is said to have once towered over Mt Everest at 42,000ft. The little ponds around are very deep vents.

Since I can't seem to get my avatar working, this is a link to my on line albums.http://s290.photobucket.com/albums/ll275/Mac_Muz/   There are many albums


This pic is a drawing my wife made for me to be a part of a paint job i did on a bike, and another 55x55 image is my common avatar. I know this one is too big

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Re: Avast folks, I made a mistake
« Reply #74 on: July 07, 2010, 02:43:50 AM »
Re: Security Centre "recommendations",

My security centre (XP Home) doesn't have the word "recommendations", either. I wonder if this is a difference between "XP Home" and "Pro"?

(See screenshot below. Mac, I suspect that in the Antivirus options, yours will look identical. For info only, my "auto updates" is in amber because I have it set to "notify" rather than to automatically download and install them. MS doesn't seem to like that, but I don't mind. ;))
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