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Hermite15

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rogue AV bypassing Comodo sandbox
« on: July 05, 2010, 09:11:35 PM »
thanks to Pondus who let me know about it ;) anyway doesn't really matter much to me as I only run CIS firewall with Def+ (including the sandbox now) and AV of course completely deactivated. But that's interesting. What would interest me more is how Avast sandbox would have resisted...

http://malwareresearchgroup.com/?p=1715
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AYeIDI4CB4&feature=player_embedded
« Last Edit: July 05, 2010, 09:13:29 PM by Logos »

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Re: rogue AV bypassing Comodo sandbox
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2010, 10:14:17 PM »
What's Comodo's reaction to this breach ???

I guess we'll soon see what they have to say:
http://forums.comodo.com/melihs-corner-ceo-talkdiscussionsblog/rogue-anti-virus-products-t37547.0.html;msg412702#msg412702
« Last Edit: July 05, 2010, 10:22:51 PM by bob3160 »
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Re: rogue AV bypassing Comodo sandbox
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2010, 10:21:13 PM »
Melih will accuse other security companies and tell us that comodo is the best there was and the best now and the best there will be
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Re: rogue AV bypassing Comodo sandbox
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2010, 10:34:02 PM »
Melih will accuse other security companies and tell us that comodo is the best there was and the best now and the best there will be

for once I agree with you (yes ;D ) that's exactly what they will do + they will accuse the tester (from malware research group) of doing things the wrong way.

 Expecting reactions after Bob's post there ;D

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Re: rogue AV bypassing Comodo sandbox
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2010, 10:44:33 PM »
Hi Logos,

Well it is just as with everything, you have the optimist, that reacts to bob's posting like I quote from there:
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I'm sure it'll be fixed soon. I also wouldn't mind a comment from the Staff to confirm my suspicions.
I wonder how long that will be there, I know Comodo does not like to welcome critical opinion.
All that is coded, bob told me once, can be uncoded, by-passed, developers have to invest time in finding those holes and exploitable code bits, if the malcreants cannot break it as a whole, they do it in parts, this is so for all code, and this is for all software as long as a machine can render more efficiently as the coder's brains, we stay in this rat hole, my friends, tails knit firmly together...

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Re: rogue AV bypassing Comodo sandbox
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2010, 10:48:31 PM »
okay but here we got two problems, not just one:

1 this rogue was known by Comodo and they updated their software (so they say...) to catch it and not be vulnerable to it anymore.

2 the same rogue now is able to bypass their sandbox, completely uninstall Comodo, and install itself after a reboot. Worse scenario one can imagine.

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Re: rogue AV bypassing Comodo sandbox
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2010, 11:00:15 PM »
Hi Logos,

You know how the Mod replied:
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MRG, yes.  Comodo is fully aware of this.
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Re: rogue AV bypassing Comodo sandbox
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2010, 11:29:37 PM »
I and others told them from the beginning that things could jump out of the sandbox and at first they denied it and then claimed it was fixed in 4.1. I guess it wasn't  ;)

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Re: rogue AV bypassing Comodo sandbox
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2010, 11:36:45 PM »
I and others told them from the beginning that things could jump out of the sandbox and at first they denied it and then claimed it was fixed in 4.1. I guess it wasn't  ;)

Happy to be Comodo free.  ;)

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Comodo + fake meds
 
Seems Comodo still aren't bothering to check who they're supplying SSL certificates to. Nice to know they give a damn isn't it.
http://hphosts.blogspot.com/2010/06/comodo-fake-meds.html

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Re: rogue AV bypassing Comodo sandbox
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2010, 12:21:38 AM »
Hi Logos,

You know how the Mod replied:
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MRG, yes.  Comodo is fully aware of this.
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Up till now, the Mod hasn't replied to my post.
The only reply has been from a user and he would also like a reply from Comodo.
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Re: rogue AV bypassing Comodo sandbox
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2010, 12:24:50 AM »
Look like i do good great for stay away of Comodo. ;D

I hear a War that start soon. Comodo vs MRG or maybe Users vs Comodo.

lol....

Lucky Comodo he thinked to got a product of high quality. Look like no also the version was Premium im sure they will say the Complete would have block it lol.

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Re: rogue AV bypassing Comodo sandbox
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2010, 05:39:36 AM »
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Comodo + fake meds
 
Seems Comodo still aren't bothering to check who they're supplying SSL certificates to. Nice to know they give a damn isn't it.
http://hphosts.blogspot.com/2010/06/comodo-fake-meds.html
[/quote] This certificate problem is not unique to Comodo. All of the vendors have had the same things happen.

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Re: rogue AV bypassing Comodo sandbox
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2010, 09:37:28 AM »
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Comodo + fake meds
 
Seems Comodo still aren't bothering to check who they're supplying SSL certificates to. Nice to know they give a damn isn't it.
http://hphosts.blogspot.com/2010/06/comodo-fake-meds.html
This certificate problem is not unique to Comodo. All of the vendors have had the same things happen.
[/quote]

true, we've been through that before, Verisign etc...they've all done that unfortunately, whether they were tricked or not is another topic. Yokenny posted in the thread I started about that here, I was blaming myself Comodo and after collecting more info, I posted additional links, that might have included that one:
http://www.ccssforum.org/malware-certificates.php
Yokenny must have read that, but he had to post his link again ::) ...of course :D You  know what Yokenny, you're just like Comodo, you're no better then they are...you could work for them ;) may be they're hiring ??? ;D

 Back to topic: in the the thread Tech linked to, they're indeed as predicted (was actually posted before my thread here but I didn't know it) doing their best to attack the method. Comodo as usual won't recognize anything, marking their difference here with other companies, especially Avast. I mean I've seen Avast recognize flaws or mistakes several times, Comodo never. For Comodo, a tester proving that Comodo has a flaw is a criminal and a malware provider himself ;D
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Re: rogue AV bypassing Comodo sandbox
« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2010, 10:37:08 AM »
Maybe they will push an update soon  :P