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Socram13

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Re: False Positives "FIX"
« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2012, 08:08:55 PM »
If i exercise activities considered illegal, it just concerns me.
I also buy software, but it is often necessary to experiment first and then maybe buy later.
I do not know why some defending companies which continued to take their profits.
I think everybody should stop here to talk for or against the particular activities that each one in their pc, and Avast does not serve as counsel for the software companies...
Theft concerns everyone, not just the thief.  Theft drives up prices for the customers who actually pay, and in the case of cracks, also help distribute malware.  So Avast! (being both an antivirus and a profit-driven company) have dual reasons for detecting cracks.  People crack Avast! licenses also. 

I get what you mean by not wanting your AV to be a nanny, but you are flat out in the wrong here,  and you show an inability to think beyond your LAN.  Whether that is because of physical or mental immaturity or both is anyones guess.....but everything is not open source, and trying to turn a profit is no sin....unlike theft.

LOL "physical or mental immaturity," When arguments do not work, people start offending others.
I'm in this business for some time, I discussed with many fanboys, for example, AMD (ATI) vsNVIDIA, INTELvsAMD, APPLEvsMICROSOFT ...
What was never realized because of defending something, so fiercely, when in most cases no one gains anything from it.
I realize that part of the "avast to defend" against cracks for it, but for example the MSE microsoft also detecting a false positive rate very low, and an effective rate of virus still quite reasonable. (Will not say to switch to MSE)
It is simply impossible to talk to people who only comes what interests them, and some online communities are full of religious followers of mind closed. I'm sure many of these religious sin, and then want to come with moral lessons to others.
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Re: False Positives "FIX"
« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2012, 09:25:20 PM »
Believe me, I am one of the least...."fanboyish" people here, but I am a pretty strong anti-piracy pundit, because I like the Web the way it is, and every theft brings us one step closer to walled gardens.

And I'm not arguing.....theft is theft, the Web might give you a nice little cushion to hide behind, but the bottom line is, when you steal, someone else pays for your theft, be it the company or their customers. 

Bottom line, an "Ignore" option has been discussed (and shot down/ignored) in the past, on the grounds that if you are smart enough to know what is safe or not, or like playing with fire, then you should also be smart enough to know how to use exclusions.   An Ignore option would lead to over half the people who run into a detection just blindly Allowing whatever they "trust", then they come crying later that Avast! did not protect them, though they muzzled their own guard dog. 

And crack detections are not (and will probably never will be) considered false positives, except by the people trying to use them to have their cake and eat it too.   Back to the Darknet with you, have a nice day.


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Re: False Positives "FIX"
« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2012, 10:02:30 PM »
I have seen many keygens/cracks that contain malware, and my bottom line is if I see them I will remove them.  If the infected person puts them back on the system then I will cease to assist period, no arguing they can clean themselves.  If I find the OS is pirated I will remove the working crack and then point them to MS.  There are plenty of free programmes out there that do a similar job to the paid for ones.  And for an OS well Linux is free

 

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Re: False Positives "FIX"
« Reply #18 on: June 22, 2012, 10:06:02 PM »
Believe me, I am one of the least...."fanboyish" people here, but I am a pretty strong anti-piracy pundit, because I like the Web the way it is, and every theft brings us one step closer to walled gardens.

And I'm not arguing.....theft is theft, the Web might give you a nice little cushion to hide behind, but the bottom line is, when you steal, someone else pays for your theft, be it the company or their customers. 

Bottom line, an "Ignore" option has been discussed (and shot down/ignored) in the past, on the grounds that if you are smart enough to know what is safe or not, or like playing with fire, then you should also be smart enough to know how to use exclusions.   An Ignore option would lead to over half the people who run into a detection just blindly Allowing whatever they "trust", then they come crying later that Avast! did not protect them, though they muzzled their own guard dog. 

And crack detections are not (and will probably never will be) considered false positives, except by the people trying to use them to have their cake and eat it too.   Back to the Darknet with you, have a nice day.



Different visions will always exist in relation to various issues, but I just posted the idea I had, to stop avast automatically delete(quarantine) files when you open, especially RAR's.
I work with debuggers and hex, and obviously this untrusted programs, also emerge as a source of my study.
Ignore/SKIP then CAPTCHA will be a great feature,but maybe as you say most users really can be misled about the true or false virus, and so I will have to continue to use the exclusions as a way to avoid major problems.
I think there is no more to say on the subject. Nice day to you too.
PS:THEFT or no THEFT everybody has their conscience, but there are many others stuff that are more important in the world and nobody cares about

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Re: False Positives "FIX"
« Reply #19 on: June 22, 2012, 10:21:23 PM »
There is little point in continuing this as avast have the final say in this and they have long since chosen to protect the majority of their users, by not making it too easy to exclude files.

It has to be a positive action to exclude and just adding complexity captcha 'into' the alert window (if it can be done) isn't something that I believe they would do when a process exists to exclude already.

A company has to have its moral and legal conscience, not to mention they can't possibly condone it on an official website. After all you or others could also be trying to rip them off by using cracks/keygens, etc.
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