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Socram13

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False Positives "FIX"
« on: June 21, 2012, 10:06:00 AM »
Hi, is my 1st post ;D
I've been thinking and I think the new release of avast could include a new way of dealing with false positives.
Sometimes we use programs less "legal" as cracks, keygen ...
It's annoying when avast isolates some files to quarantine, which in fact are not harmful and is often difficult to deal with it.
So I thought in a way that each time a file was detected by real-time shield, you could have the option to ignore the supposed virus, while you have to enter a captcha code to confirm.
« Last Edit: June 21, 2012, 10:25:02 AM by Socram13 »

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Re: False Positives "FIX"
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2012, 02:12:29 PM »
It isn't less legal, it is illegal (aside from any moral issue) and on the official avast support forums we couldn't condone that action.

Avast has long since taken the decision that there won't be a single click option to 'ignore' and allow it to run immediately, there is too much risk of accidental clicking of that button and allowing malware to run. That is why they took the decision that exclusion would be a manual step as it is.

I somehow doubt avast would introduce a means of making it less annoying for you to run your cracks or keygens.
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Re: False Positives "FIX"
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2012, 03:54:15 PM »
It isn't less legal, it is illegal (aside from any moral issue) and on the official avast support forums we couldn't condone that action.

Avast has long since taken the decision that there won't be a single click option to 'ignore' and allow it to run immediately, there is too much risk of accidental clicking of that button and allowing malware to run. That is why they took the decision that exclusion would be a manual step as it is.

I somehow doubt avast would introduce a means of making it less annoying for you to run your cracks or keygens.

Is illegal but is used by many computer users, even Corporates uses that kind of stuff...
The accidental clicking can happend, but thats why i think about captcha.
You talk like just me using that programs, people just don´t have courage to admit, and we talk about anti-virus, and their HIGH false positive alerts.

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Re: False Positives "FIX"
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2012, 04:25:37 PM »
It matters not who uses it, it is still illegal and as I said on the official avast support forums we couldn't condone that action.
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Re: False Positives "FIX"
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2012, 04:33:36 PM »
Keygens are illegal and many include viruses. The readme usually says the antivirus will detect the keygen because it is illegal, however, that is not always the case.


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Re: False Positives "FIX"
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2012, 04:31:34 AM »
I like to collect keygens and their assembler demos. Avast should not judge what users think or do about their computing experience.

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Re: False Positives "FIX"
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2012, 05:04:17 AM »
@AlKaboom: none of us have the right to pirate software. moreover there are many malicious keygens.

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« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2012, 06:05:38 AM »
I like to collect keygens and their assembler demos. Avast should not judge what users think or do about their computing experience.

Well,these keyloggers are vectors to malware...telling u...u wanna see...u wanna see..what happens...when u allow your feeling to get in front of u...when u start thinking with your other head...then u must go and run some keyloggers and run on-demand scanners then..u will find infections live on your computer..

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Re: False Positives "FIX"
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2012, 10:58:37 AM »
I like to collect keygens and their assembler demos. Avast should not judge what users think or do about their computing experience.

I agree with him...
Starting with the operating system, how many have actually a purchased version?
I gave the example of keygen, actually carry some risk, but what most use are the "cracks", especially for games and there over the years I have rarely seen a case of virus associated. I usually send emails to the support of avast with false positive where, for example: DLLs (Dynamic Link Library) that can opened with a hex editor program can check for malicious code, and is a safe way to have sure. Of course not of all people do.
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Re: False Positives "FIX"
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2012, 11:46:45 AM »
As said, you won't get any support regarding such issues here.
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Re: False Positives "FIX"
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2012, 04:34:32 PM »
As Asyn and DavidR say, keygens and cracks are illegal and you will not receive any help on the avast! forums for your illegal activities.

As for "purchased" keygens, what's the point of paying for a keygen when you can get the program (and support it)?

If you like the program, don't you want to give money so they can continue development?

How would you like it if someone else was selling keygens for YOUR software ILLEGALLY and avast! was not detecting it? You would be mad, n'est-ce pas?

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Re: False Positives "FIX"
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2012, 05:24:12 PM »
If i exercise activities considered illegal, it just concerns me.
I also buy software, but it is often necessary to experiment first and then maybe buy later.
I do not know why some defending companies which continued to take their profits.
I think everybody should stop here to talk for or against the particular activities that each one in their pc, and Avast does not serve as counsel for the software companies...

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Re: False Positives "FIX"
« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2012, 05:25:34 PM »
well its not just avast! but also other AV's do detect keyloggers...u must read my previous reply....its better not to think with your other head and not allow your feelings to get in front of u. ;D

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Re: False Positives "FIX"
« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2012, 05:29:07 PM »
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If i exercise activities considered illegal, it just concerns me.
if it is not malicious......it may be detected by sandbox as suspicious...you can still run it
or as PUP if pup scan is on (default off in quick/full scan)  PUP = Possible Unwanted Program

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Re: False Positives "FIX"
« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2012, 05:42:19 PM »
If i exercise activities considered illegal, it just concerns me.
I also buy software, but it is often necessary to experiment first and then maybe buy later.
I do not know why some defending companies which continued to take their profits.
I think everybody should stop here to talk for or against the particular activities that each one in their pc, and Avast does not serve as counsel for the software companies...
Theft concerns everyone, not just the thief.  Theft drives up prices for the customers who actually pay, and in the case of cracks, also help distribute malware.  So Avast! (being both an antivirus and a profit-driven company) have dual reasons for detecting cracks.  People crack Avast! licenses also. 

I get what you mean by not wanting your AV to be a nanny, but you are flat out in the wrong here,  and you show an inability to think beyond your LAN.  Whether that is because of physical or mental immaturity or both is anyones guess.....but everything is not open source, and trying to turn a profit is no sin....unlike theft.