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Re: WHY is Chrome a part of Avast 8 installer?
« Reply #60 on: May 29, 2013, 09:05:03 PM »
I agree wholeheartedly with Fred S, mjt, jbaumann, Tetsuo, Grifter02, timbirr, and am just as livid as supergills. (Schmidthouse and others who have suggested that some users are too ignorant to use a custom install or to uncheck the install Chrome option have no idea what the heck they're talking about. There is simply just no option presented when updating via the UI.)


Those who say "just uninstall it" just don't get it. My computer belongs to me, not to Emsisoft. Surreptitiously installing software on my computer and then expecting me to deal with the cleanup is unethical. Sadly, Emsisoft has been guilty of this highly unethical practice for a long time. It was discussed in this forum over a year ago, when they were piggybacking some other Google software on the UI updater. There is absolutely no excuse for this. It would be simple to offer an opt-out with the UI updater. It would also avoid offending loyal users. Emsisoft has offered no explanation why it treats loyal users (those with Avast already installed) different worse than newcomers (those downloading Avast for the first time).
Where does Emsisoft enter into this equation ???
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Re: WHY is Chrome a part of Avast 8 installer?
« Reply #61 on: May 29, 2013, 09:15:26 PM »
Where does Emsisoft enter into this equation ???

Clearly it was not intentional. The user just accidentally "mistook" Avast Software" for "Emsisoft" (or vice versa) in his post.

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Re: WHY is Chrome a part of Avast 8 installer?
« Reply #62 on: May 29, 2013, 09:16:57 PM »
Where does Emsisoft enter into this equation ???

Clearly it was not intentional. The user just accidentally "mistook" Avast Software" for "Emsisoft" (or vice versa) in his post.
That's a heck of a typing error.....
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Re: WHY is Chrome a part of Avast 8 installer?
« Reply #63 on: May 29, 2013, 09:18:17 PM »

That's a heck of a typing error.....

C'mon, not a big deal in the general context of his post!

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Re: WHY is Chrome a part of Avast 8 installer?
« Reply #64 on: May 29, 2013, 09:23:12 PM »
This question is usually best answered by the author. :)
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Re: WHY is Chrome a part of Avast 8 installer?
« Reply #65 on: June 02, 2013, 01:37:24 AM »
Yet again a perfectly legitimate thread has sunk into a battle of personal criticism.

Emsisoft is mentioned and all hell breaks loose.
This really is taking fanboyism to the extreme. :o
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Re: WHY is Chrome a part of Avast 8 installer?
« Reply #66 on: June 05, 2013, 02:44:01 AM »
I too am upset by the invasive install of Chrome and also: "ASPCA We-care reminder"!
To be fair, it is possible that the "ASPCA We-care reminder" came from the upgrade of FoxIt reader - I'm not sure.
In any case, Avast has overstepped it's bounds. I have been a paying customer of Avast for a couple of years now - on three computers, and that is coming to an end. Avast is supposed to scan for PUP, and it gave me one! That is unforgivable. I am livid that Avast would do this - even if the "ASPCA We-care reminder" was from FoxIt reader.
I will NEVER give Avast a dime of my money again. I paid them so they would not resort to adware nor nag screens, and look what I get for it. We are done Avast.

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Re: WHY is Chrome a part of Avast 8 installer?
« Reply #67 on: June 05, 2013, 03:04:41 AM »
SNIP> (Schmidthouse and others who have suggested that some users are too ignorant to use a custom install or to uncheck the install Chrome option have no idea what the heck they're talking about. There is simply just no option presented when updating via the UI.)
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To set the record straight, in the 6 posts/replies I've offered early in this thread, I have never suggested, implied or stated anyone to be "too ignorant to use a custom install or to uncheck the install Chrome option"  ::)
I have simply stated my experience with the "install Chrome option".
That's the fact. :)
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Re: WHY is Chrome a part of Avast 8 installer?
« Reply #68 on: June 05, 2013, 03:24:50 AM »
I never noticed MSE using excessive RAM but I did notice its detections rates are low (I'm not the only one, it's been getting low ratings in AV reviews), possibly because it doesn't update itself very often, ...

My impression is that its biggest weakness is in the detection of zero-day threats, where it lags behind most other AVs. Its detection rate for "widespread and prevalent malware" - which usually is signature-based - is at or about 100%. So I don't think the frequency of its updates is a major factor in its poor showing.