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Re: WHY is Chrome a part of Avast 8 installer?
« Reply #45 on: May 19, 2013, 02:49:19 PM »
I was not complaining about option to install Google products with Avast installer.
I was complaining about glorification of worst spying browser ever.Chrome (Chromium)
is just horrible,over-simplified,dumb browser without bookmarks sidebar.Fonts are awful,
pale and tiny.I am waiting for Opera with Blink engine.

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Re: WHY is Chrome a part of Avast 8 installer?
« Reply #46 on: May 19, 2013, 02:58:58 PM »
Bob please. But this constant whining and complaining about Chrome and the Assumption that Google is spying on you is getting pathetic. I am supporting Avast. Like I said a million times Adobe packs things like Norton Secuurty Scan and McAfee Security Scan into there installers. So why don't people complain to them? People complain when it's there own Demise that got then Chrome to begin with.
Simple, antagonizing someone doesn't solve their problem. This is a help forum therefore most of those posting in here have a problem.
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Re: WHY is Chrome a part of Avast 8 installer?
« Reply #47 on: May 27, 2013, 01:38:12 AM »
Let me add another "WHINE."

When CHROME was installed by AVAST (against my wishes), it screwed up my hyperlinks in my word documents.

So, when I clicked on hyperlinks in my word documents, I received an error....

As far as I can figure, Chrome set itself up as the default program for this during the install. When I uninstalled CHROME, there was no longer an association on my computers for this.

It took me a good 10-15 minutes to figure out the problem and reset FireFox as the default.

Thanks again, Avast! :o

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Re: WHY is Chrome a part of Avast 8 installer?
« Reply #48 on: May 27, 2013, 04:17:05 PM »
I also got Chrome installed without my having an option to NOT install it.  The checkbox window appeared for about a half-second and then went away while the installer whipped Chrome onto my machine.  I am very unhappy that Avast has made the decision to bundle other software with their own and am thinking seriously about moving on to another A/V product.

Additionally, after the upgrade I am no longer offered the opportunity to renew my registration.  I have no renewal button, only an Upgrade button that doesn't allow the registration of the normal (free) version.  What's up with that?

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Re: WHY is Chrome a part of Avast 8 installer?
« Reply #49 on: May 27, 2013, 05:15:22 PM »
Would it be possible to get Support package or at least setup.log to investigate what and why happened?

thank you
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Re: WHY is Chrome a part of Avast 8 installer?
« Reply #50 on: May 27, 2013, 05:37:55 PM »
How about install.log?  I've cut out everything prior to the 26th of May.

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Re: WHY is Chrome a part of Avast 8 installer?
« Reply #51 on: May 27, 2013, 11:27:51 PM »
I'm finished with Avast. On advice elsewhere on this forum I have tried downloading and executing a new install rather than an update but in spite of selecting Custom install and Minimal installation the b####y thing still started installing Chrome. Note my next sentence : IT WASN'T IN THE LIST!!!

It wouldn't let me cancel the installation and I couldn't stop it with Task Manager so in desperation I hit the power button. Then when I booted up I had to wait for Windows to repair the installation.  >:(

For those of you who think that Chrome is the best thing since sliced bread let me make it quite clear - I DECIDE WHAT I WANT ON MY COMPUTER!! If Avast can't accept that simple principle then they can go hang. I'm going to switch to MSE.
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Re: WHY is Chrome a part of Avast 8 installer?
« Reply #52 on: May 27, 2013, 11:35:23 PM »
I'm finished with Avast. On advice elsewhere on this forum I have tried downloading and executing a new install rather than an update but in spite of selecting Custom install and Minimal installation the b####y thing still started installing Chrome. Note my next sentence : IT WASN'T IN THE LIST!!!

It wouldn't let me cancel the installation and I couldn't stop it with Task Manager so in desperation I hit the power button. Then when I booted up I had to wait for Windows to repair the installation.  >:(

For those of you who think that Chrome is the best thing since sliced bread let me make it quite clear - I DECIDE WHAT I WANT ON MY COMPUTER!! If Avast can't accept that simple principle then they can go hang. I'm going to switch to MSE.

Add/Remove programs/Uninstall Google Chrome. Its that easy.

FYI.........MSE has an extremely poor detection rate and uses a lot of ram.

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Re: WHY is Chrome a part of Avast 8 installer?
« Reply #53 on: May 28, 2013, 10:42:47 AM »
Add/Remove programs/Uninstall Google Chrome. Its that easy.

No, it's not easy at all if you understand what Windows registry is, how it works and how deeply Google installs its stuff on a system, including services and updaters. 
By the way, it'd be greatly appreciated if some users could stop posting such annoying and trolling replies in threads related to the Google stuff issues.

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Re: WHY is Chrome a part of Avast 8 installer?
« Reply #54 on: May 28, 2013, 11:13:58 AM »
It's not just Google either. Nearly all software leaves lots of junk scattered throughout the registry after an uninstall which bloats and fragments it. I used Revo uninstaller to try and remove all the Avast c$$p left over and there was quite a lot of it.

Aventador, you're still missing the point. It should not be necessary to uninstall Chrome. It should be offered as an option, not installed by default.

Whatever the shortcomings of MSE I've installed it and will give it a try. At least it hasn't tried to install a lot of unwanted software!
« Last Edit: May 28, 2013, 11:18:39 AM by mjt »
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Re: WHY is Chrome a part of Avast 8 installer?
« Reply #55 on: May 28, 2013, 02:34:36 PM »
...FYI.........MSE has an extremely poor detection rate and uses a lot of ram.

I never noticed MSE using excessive RAM but I did notice its detections rates are low (I'm not the only one, it's been getting low ratings in AV reviews), possibly because it doesn't update itself very often, depending on scan on boot settings (which are worthless if one doesn't reboot often).

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Re: WHY is Chrome a part of Avast 8 installer?
« Reply #56 on: May 28, 2013, 02:39:07 PM »
...FYI.........MSE has an extremely poor detection rate and uses a lot of ram.

I never noticed MSE using excessive RAM but I did notice its detections rates are low (I'm not the only one, it's been getting low ratings in AV reviews), possibly because it doesn't update itself very often, depending on scan on boot settings (which are worthless if one doesn't reboot often).
It doesn't use excessive ram but does use more ram and system resources than avast!. Their update rate can't compare with avast!'s streaming update feature.
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Re: WHY is Chrome a part of Avast 8 installer?
« Reply #57 on: May 28, 2013, 10:25:30 PM »
...FYI.........MSE has an extremely poor detection rate and uses a lot of ram.

I never noticed MSE using excessive RAM but I did notice its detections rates are low (I'm not the only one, it's been getting low ratings in AV reviews), possibly because it doesn't update itself very often, depending on scan on boot settings (which are worthless if one doesn't reboot often).
It doesn't use excessive ram but does use more ram and system resources than avast!. Their update rate can't compare with avast!'s streaming update feature.

The chances of a safe user coming across any "streamed" update is quite slim.
As for MSE well in the hands of a good safe surfer then detection rates are immaterial.

I have used windows computers for approximately 7 years and never been infected but that is nothing to do with any security installed but browsing habits.

Im not quite certain what sort of internet users need "spectacular" detection rates but its obviously for the wreckless.
But by far MSE is far more stable than avast will ever be.
Just perusing through this forum there are endless tales of blue screens and now chrome being sneaked in through the backdoor.

MSE or any other free av do not do that.
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Re: WHY is Chrome a part of Avast 8 installer?
« Reply #58 on: May 28, 2013, 10:55:52 PM »
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that is nothing to do with any security installed but browsing habits.
Not to burst your bubble but, there is no such thing as safe surfing.
Websites get infected all the time and it's quite possible for you to go to
one of "your safe sites", get redirected and wind up infected.
That isn't blowing smoke but happens to be fact.

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Re: WHY is Chrome a part of Avast 8 installer?
« Reply #59 on: May 29, 2013, 08:54:46 PM »
I agree wholeheartedly with Fred S, mjt, jbaumann, Tetsuo, Grifter02, timbirr, and am just as livid as supergills. (Schmidthouse and others who have suggested that some users are too ignorant to use a custom install or to uncheck the install Chrome option have no idea what the heck they're talking about. There is simply just no option presented when updating via the UI.)


Those who say "just uninstall it" just don't get it. My computer belongs to me, not to Emsisoft Avast. Surreptitiously installing software on my computer and then expecting me to deal with the cleanup is unethical. Sadly, Emsisoft Avast has been guilty of this highly unethical practice for a long time. It was discussed in this forum over a year ago, when they were piggybacking some other Google software on the UI updater. There is absolutely no excuse for this. It would be simple to offer an opt-out with the UI updater. It would also avoid offending loyal users. Emsisoft Avast has offered no explanation why it treats loyal users (those with Avast already installed) different worse than newcomers (those downloading Avast for the first time).
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