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Offline Lisandro

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Temptation...
« on: December 09, 2005, 01:28:36 AM »
This is the first firewall in Portuguese (Brazil): Outpost firewall.
Another antivirus in Portuguese (Brazil): NOD32
Both in a full Portuguese (Brazil) webpage: http://www.protagon.com.br/home/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12&Itemid=26

NOD32 is becoming more and more popular... the detection is becoming better,
response times too... we can follow at http://www.av-test.org/

How I wish we have this...
I'm being tentated to test  ;D

Where is my Portuguese webpage for avast?
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Re: Tentation...
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2005, 03:17:08 AM »
Not to mention that you don't even know when NOD32 is installed on your system until you take a look at your system tray and see that icon. It's unbelievable effective and in the same time quite light on system resources. Best of all, there is no such a thing as prolonged boot time (after logging in to Windows)... boom, type your password, hit the enter, and in just few seconds (almost literally) your up and running...
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Re: Tentation...
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2005, 03:41:51 AM »
Ill be testing it on my system tomorrow. :o
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Re: Tentation...
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2005, 08:38:08 AM »
Hey guys!

I would just like to add that one of the main reasons i went with Nod32 over avast(i had the pro version of avast) was the scanning speed, that's right scanning speed is soooo fast with Nod32 for example avast always took around 3 hours to scan my HDD(with archive scanning and highest settings) while Nod32 does the same job(in-depth analysys that's the thoroughest scanning in Nod32) in just 35-45 minutes!

Not to mention that you don't even know when NOD32 is installed on your system until you take a look at your system tray and see that icon. It's unbelievable effective and in the same time quite light on system resources. Best of all, there is no such a thing as prolonged boot time (after logging in to Windows)... boom, type your password, hit the enter, and in just few seconds (almost literally) your up and running...

That is also true!My pc boots up way faster than it did with avast!Now don't get me wrong guys i'm not saying Nod32 is the best and avast sucks or anything like that but all i am saying is in my opinion avast pro version needs some work to become attractive enough to buy it(at least for me) .But the home version of avast is definately the best FREE AV and i recommend it to all my friends and family, i think alwil has to offer something more in the pro version if they want to get more customers(or keep the ones they have).



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Re: Tentation...
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2005, 09:32:07 AM »

NOD32 is becoming more and more popular... the detection is becoming better,
response times too... we can follow at http://www.av-test.org/



I totally agree. NOD32 is almost the best antivirus I've ever seen, it's very effective (especially the detection rates) while it's extremely fast and very light on resources and NOD32's heuristics is real and so strong. I don't know how ESET can do this excellent jobs.

I can buy NOD32 about $7 in my country but unfortunately, I personally don't like NOD32, I don't like its interface and the way its configurations work so finally, it's all comes down to your preferences.
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Re: Tentation...
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2005, 10:07:40 AM »
I can buy NOD32 about $7 in my country but unfortunately, I personally don't like NOD32, I don't like its interface and the way its configurations work so finally, it's all comes down to your preferences.

I kindda got used to the GUI(it's actually very logical) but i hated it at first also.IMHO Bitdefender has the best GUI ever.So clean and logical.But i don't care about the GUI(ofcourse it's nice to have a good lookin' AV) the most important thing for me is the program itself and how good it does the job it was suppose to.BTW i think AVG has the ugliest GUI of all times(darn win 3.11 look) but if it were a good AV i wouldn't hesitate to use it despite the ugly GUI.


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Re: Tentation...
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2005, 10:11:40 AM »
I would just like to add that one of the main reasons i went with Nod32 over avast(i had the pro version of avast) was the scanning speed, that's right scanning speed is soooo fast with Nod32 for example avast always took around 3 hours to scan my HDD(with archive scanning and highest settings) while Nod32 does the same job(in-depth analysys that's the thoroughest scanning in Nod32) in just 35-45 minutes!

I'm not saying NOD isn't fast, but you cannot simply compare the settings if you don't know what exactly they mean. The "Thorough" scan in avast! scans all files, and the whole files - every single byte of them. It is easily possible that NOD doesn't do that even on the highest settings, because it's probably an overkill (to scan everything). Besides, it would be necessary to compare the number of unpacked files from the archives... they may vary as well. So, even though you use the "highest possible setting" in each program, they may not really correspond to each other (i.e. it's not a good idea to compare the time).

I'd suggest to use the Standard Scan (with archives on) for a deep scan in avast! - it should be enough, IMHO.

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Re: Tentation...
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2005, 10:16:35 AM »
I'm not saying NOD isn't fast, but you cannot simply compare the settings if you don't know what exactly they mean. The "Thorough" scan in avast! scans all files, and the whole files - every single byte of them. It is easily possible that NOD doesn't do that even on the highest settings, because it's probably an overkill (to scan everything). Besides, it would be necessary to compare the number of unpacked files from the archives... they may vary as well. So, even though you use the "highest possible setting" in each program, they may not really correspond to each other (i.e. it's not a good idea to compare the time).

I'd suggest to use the Standard Scan (with archives on) for a deep scan in avast! - it should be enough, IMHO.



Igor even a fast scan with archive scanning disabled(with avast) is slower on my comp than the highest scanning setting in Nod.What do you say about that?Not to mention it detects more than avastBTW.

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Re: Tentation...
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2005, 10:20:28 AM »
As I said, I'm not saying that NOD isn't fast - just that you may be comparing uncomparable settings (thus getting a bigger difference in time than it really is).

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Re: Tentation...
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2005, 10:33:05 AM »
As I said, I'm not saying that NOD isn't fast - just that you may be comparing uncomparable settings (thus getting a bigger difference in time than it really is).


I get it Igor, i just wanted to make a point and that is that you guys need to work on the scanning speed.I as a user don't care which methods my AV uses to scan i just want the scan over as fast as possible.But isn't it funny how Nod detects more than avast and scans faster at the same time?
 

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Re: Tentation...
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2005, 11:09:19 AM »
Hi ReVaN,

Nod32 is the product of choice for power users, + fast, low resource usage, - high maintenance cost (yearly).
I know once that NOD32 used a reduced database concentrating on "in the wild" viruses instead of a fully historical one. They depend on a heuristic engine for way-back and bleeding-edge issues. So the WebScanner of Avast will be surely missed.
And here it is like comparing apples and pears. AV product has the VB 100. Had difficulty finding crippled "Zoo" viruses. So it is true that NOD32 is more than hype only, and "it did not fail to catch the worm" as any "good ÄV-bird" should. Some governments see Nod32 as their product of choice (e.g. Uruguay).

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Re: Tentation...
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2005, 11:12:08 AM »
Damian!

Nod32 had http scanning waaaaay before avast ;)

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Re: Tentation...
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2005, 11:57:09 AM »
Damian! Nod32 had http scanning waaaaay before avast ;)
ReVaN, as far I know, or you don't know how WebShield works or you overestimate Nod32 capability of scanning http traffic.
You should know exactly how WebShield works before traffic is cached in the HDD. Nod32 does not do that.
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Re: Tentation...
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2005, 12:09:27 PM »
Damian! Nod32 had http scanning waaaaay before avast ;)
ReVaN, as far I know, or you don't know how WebShield works or you overestimate Nod32 capability of scanning http traffic.
You should know exactly how WebShield works before traffic is cached in the HDD. Nod32 does not do that.

Hmmm i said that Nod32 has http scanning and it had it before avast.And that's all dude.I never mentioned anything about caching or anything like that.

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Re: Tentation...
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2005, 12:33:35 PM »


Hmmm i said that Nod32 has http scanning and it had it before avast.And that's all dude.I never mentioned anything about caching or anything like that.

Exactly...

And Igor... isn't there any way to make avast! starts faster at boot time and not hammering a HD the way it does... there are numerous threads I posted in explaining what's happening (and attaching all those screenshots to show my startup processes and how different applications, like those from Sysinternals, sees my processes). See here:

http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=17701.msg152166#msg152166

And it's not just on my end, but on other people's ends... there must be something you guys can do about it, not just saying: "...well, that's about it, we can't do much more..."

How is it even possible ? There must be something, I mean other AVs solved those problems...

Thanks in advance

P.S. I don't wanna be a pain in the rear end, but all I want is to see my belowed AV working the way we all want. That's all.
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