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Re: Goodbye
« Reply #45 on: June 07, 2006, 02:33:02 PM »
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Disagreeing is fine but even this thread is starting to get adversarial.
I guess that will be just cause to close another thread  ???  :'(
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Re: Goodbye
« Reply #46 on: June 07, 2006, 02:55:41 PM »
I guess that will be just cause to close another thread ??? :'(
Bob,

I'm not calling for that at all.  I'm just saying if we're here to help or here seeking help we shouldn't alienate each other.

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Re: Goodbye
« Reply #47 on: June 07, 2006, 03:20:28 PM »
Dear justin1278 - and others,
I too was intrigued when I heard about a new, free, full-featured AV coming out. When it did, I was the first one to post about it on Wilders. I still am very curious to see how it will perform in the future, once it is finally ready. And I certainly hope it becomes better than avast, and avast again becomes better than it, and so on. Why? Because that would be in my best interest, as a user. I don't have any problem with anyone helping them in making it a solid product, I think this is lawful, and in the past I also helped security products becoming better (avast, ewido and others - as much as I am able, of course).
On the other hand, what I DON'T like is going to another product's forum (a competitor's one) and starting an argument. What I DON'T like, is telling others "Do you think you could post your comments in my post in the avast! forums?" (http://forums.comodo.com/index.php/topic,377.0.html) so that they can "help" you. what I DON'T like is Commodo forums trying to create "fanatics" (just take a look at their smilies) about a product THAT IS STILL IN BETA!!!
I would really appreciate it if you just created a post saying "Hey guys, I just switched to another AV, because I think avast doesn't have a good enough detection for me, because the support is lusy ... (whatever else you want goes here)...". But advertising another AV here? That really doesn't look good, I hope you understand that Justin. And the only reason I am writting all these is because I never want to see another thread like this here
"Hi folks,

the time has arrived - after several severe warnings about all the flames here I am forced to close the Off Topic forum. I am very sorry to do this but I do not see any other alternative. I think this was quite unique place on the Internet where friends can meet and discuss different stuff. Unfortunately, sometimes I feel like it is a kindergarten.

I hope all of you will understand our step. I would like to thank to all of you who help us not only to support avast! but to keep this site to be such a wonderful place.

Please do not use the other specialized forums for offtopic stuff.

Take care!

Pavel"

I hope you do understand that. I have nothing personal against you (or anybody else).
Peace.

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Re: Goodbye
« Reply #48 on: June 07, 2006, 04:31:50 PM »
Hi Spyros,

I can understand your reaction, but you have to consider a few things here. One there is an enormous difference between positive remarks and negative remarks.
Being critical of a anti-virus product is a good thing, the makers of the product should continue to have such an attitude.
When I talk about a clever solution, for instance the DrWeb pre-hyperlink scanner plug-in or add-on for IE, FF or Flock, I present this technology not to criticize Avast for not having a similar service, but to let our users have the benefit of this small valuable tool. In that respect I am not advertising another AV solution. I would not have the rest of the product, because I do not like the FP of the heuristics of DrWeb's, one of it big limiting qualities. It flags toolbarcop, nukenabber etc. as malware, where the function of these tools can be both for good and bad purposes.

I can understand that the young dogs, that want to change the AV world try to jump the band-wagon a bit. Who wasn't young, and idealistic. I have a milder perspective. Do not think black-and white, think shades of grey.

There are also success stories, members are turned into real malware specialists and analyze to undo evil. Isn't that great. Look for the positive aspects here, not for the negative. Be grateful to Avast for this forum,

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Re: Goodbye
« Reply #49 on: June 07, 2006, 04:38:49 PM »
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Being critical of a anti-virus product is a good thing
Polonus, that's a true statement however, that's not the real reason for this thread.
All you have to do is read the whole  thread started on the Comodo Forum.
It sounds more like spite than anything else to me.
There are many things I think can be improved with avast! but this thread isn't
what's going to accomplish that task.
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Re: Goodbye
« Reply #50 on: June 07, 2006, 04:39:39 PM »
Polonus, we are saying almost the same thing. I wrote above that he has every right to critisize avast if he feels it is a weak product. Of course, saying "Please avast, import this great feature that XYZ antivirus has, in order to make avast better" is also perfectly normal, as you did. But in my perspective, this is not what's going on in this thread. And as I said, I don't have anything personal with anybody here, in contrary, I always enjoy Justin's posts, but I think things have gotten a little bit too far in this thread.

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Re: Goodbye
« Reply #51 on: June 07, 2006, 05:14:07 PM »
Why not send the file to alwil anyways?  Isn't it a good thing to at least try to send it so that others may be safe from it?  Or is that some form of protest against avast?  There is a chance...however small..that they would add it.  You said you have friends on the forum here...  Why not send it so that they have a chance of being protected against it?

You are right :'(, I have friends here and don't want them to get infected, so I will give my sample to Alwil, I have scanned the file at Virus Total[/size]
again and here are the results. IF any of you would like a copy of this sample please e-mail me (e-mail is in my profile) that way you may test the file with avast! and see when/if they add it to detection. I really appreciate your comments and posts, it shows you guys really care, and that is one of the reasons I am sticking around... Though I doubt Alwil will add this file at least you guys know I tried :). This sample is one of my ways of saying thank you for helping me and giving me a great forum for over a year.  Here are todays results of this malwares scan.





« Last Edit: June 07, 2006, 05:35:40 PM by justin1278 »

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Re: Goodbye
« Reply #52 on: June 07, 2006, 05:14:47 PM »
Ok I sent the file.
« Last Edit: June 07, 2006, 07:38:05 PM by justin1278 »

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Re: Goodbye
« Reply #53 on: June 07, 2006, 05:15:22 PM »
If anyone wants the sample file I sent plz e-mail me, I will send it to you (encrypted of course) so you can see if avast! detects it later
« Last Edit: June 07, 2006, 07:39:38 PM by justin1278 »

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Re: Goodbye
« Reply #54 on: June 07, 2006, 05:22:01 PM »
[You are right :'(, I have friends here and don't want them to get infected, so I will give my sample to Alwil ...

Thanks Justin.

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Re: Goodbye
« Reply #55 on: June 07, 2006, 05:31:29 PM »
Why not send the file to alwil anyways?  Isn't it a good thing to at least try to send it so that others may be safe from it?  Or is that some form of protest against avast?  There is a chance...however small..that they would add it.  You said you have friends on the forum here...  Why not send it so that they have a chance of being protected against it?

You are right :'(, I have friends here and don't want them to get infected, so I will give my sample to Alwil, I have scanned the file at [size=12p]Virus Total[/size]
again and here are the results. IF any of you would like a copy of this sample please e-mail me (e-mail is in my profile) that way you may test the file with avast! and see when/if they add it to detection. I really appreciate your comments and posts, it shows you guys really care, and that is one of the reasons I am sticking around... Though I doubt Alwil will add this file at least you guys know I tried :). This sample is one of my ways of saying thank you for helping me and giving me a great forum for over a year.  Here are todays results of this malwares scan.







;)  That's very cool of you.  I for one appreciate it greatly.

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Re: Goodbye
« Reply #56 on: June 07, 2006, 05:36:11 PM »
Hi,

Thank you I just hope they add it to detection. :)

Regards,

Justin
« Last Edit: June 07, 2006, 05:56:34 PM by justin1278 »

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Re: Goodbye
« Reply #57 on: June 07, 2006, 05:42:09 PM »
The fact that no one from Alwil / Avast! team has replied to this topic greatly suggests that they don't really care what goes on within the community.  This thread, from my perspective, was started as a wake up call to Alwil - that members are leaving because the community feels they simply don't care.  Sadly, this thread only supports that statement and inspires that feeling.

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Re: Goodbye
« Reply #58 on: June 07, 2006, 05:46:03 PM »
Thank you Staind,

This topic has become a "hot" topic, and is at the top of the board, they must have noticed it by now, they are most likely just ignoring it. I'm betting eventually that the moderators will close it.

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Re: Goodbye
« Reply #59 on: June 07, 2006, 06:47:33 PM »
Ooops sorry about the double post... :-[
Just edit out the contents of the duplicate post.

e.g. Edit, Duplicate post content deleted, etc.
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