Ridiculous new Firewall

[Mr. Consumer]

I think that those who think about the new Firewall are confusing the terms configure and protection.

The new firewall apart from the new interface, has not only the same protection, but more than the previous one with new additional protections.

What if it is that some sections are predetermined and can not be modified, but if add rules, although in 99% of users do not need to modify anything in general of any firewall of any known antivirus.

Maybe that should be modified if necessary, but we must give a margin to improve what is new.

For the rest the criticisms are without clear foundation, because this firewall complies with the same as the previous one, if not more (it is assumed)

No, you missed my main point.
Show me how I can do this in the new Avast Firewall? You can't.

Windows Firewall:
https://www.minitool.com/news/block-program-with-windows-firewall-009.html

ESET Firewall:
https://support.eset.com/en/kb2843-create-a-firewall-rule-to-allowdisallow-use-of-a-certain-application-in-my-windows-eset-home-product

Bitdefender Firewall:
https://www.bitdefender.com/consumer/support/answer/13425/

[bob3160]

I think that those who think about the new Firewall are confusing the terms configure and protection.

The new firewall apart from the new interface, has not only the same protection, but more than the previous one with new additional protections.

What if it is that some sections are predetermined and can not be modified, but if add rules, although in 99% of users do not need to modify anything in general of any firewall of any known antivirus.

Maybe that should be modified if necessary, but we must give a margin to improve what is new.

For the rest the criticisms are without clear foundation, because this firewall complies with the same as the previous one, if not more (it is assumed)

No, you missed my main point.
Show me how I can do this in the new Avast Firewall? You can't.

Windows Firewall:
https://www.minitool.com/news/block-program-with-windows-firewall-009.html

ESET Firewall:
https://support.eset.com/en/kb2843-create-a-firewall-rule-to-allowdisallow-use-of-a-certain-application-in-my-windows-eset-home-product

Bitdefender Firewall:
https://www.bitdefender.com/consumer/support/answer/13425/

Some simple advice.
The firewall offers excellent protection. For the techie who is looking to do his own tweaks,
you may be better of using a different product.
For the majority of users, this is an excellent product that keeps you computer safe.
For most of us, this is exactly what we are looking for. Full protection without all the bother
of having to learn the ins and out of how to manage all the complexities of a software firewall.

[Asyn]

Show me how I can do this in the new Avast Firewall? You can't.

Sorry to ask, but did you read the article provided in Reply #1..!?

[Mr. Consumer]

Show me how I can do this in the new Avast Firewall? You can't.

Sorry to ask, but did you read the article provided in Reply #1..!?

I did, and I figured that out by myself even before I started this thread.
The list contains applications that has been executed on my PC so far. I can't add manually add something that hasn't been executed yet. The previous Firewall had that option, the new one doesn't.
That's the point I made more than once here. The current Firewall doesn't have this basic feature that every other software Firewall in the world has.

[DavidR]

Show me how I can do this in the new Avast Firewall? You can't.

Sorry to ask, but did you read the article provided in Reply #1..!?

I'm of the opinion if you don't like something, then don't use it and be done with it.

I haven't installed the firewall option in Avast Free 21.10.xxxx as for now I continue to use the Windows 10 firewall and I haven't touched it at all in over 4 years of using this win10 laptop.  I haven't has a single issue.

I used to Use Agnitum Pro Firewall (I had a life time license until it got sold), I initially started it up on default, training mode (for just over a week) to recognise the programs I used and how I worked/used the internet.  After that I rarely had to do anything to it. 

I honestly believe that for the vast majority they don't have to tweak their firewall to within an inch of its life, as my experience of the windows firewall on default settings attests.

[bob3160]

 @Mr Consumer: Do you ever read what's addressed to you or do you just keep posting?
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=309426.msg1668819#msg1668819

[Asyn]

Show me how I can do this in the new Avast Firewall? You can't.

Sorry to ask, but did you read the article provided in Reply #1..!?

I did, and I figured that out by myself even before I started this thread.
The list contains applications that has been executed on my PC so far. I can't add manually add something that hasn't been executed yet. The previous Firewall had that option, the new one doesn't.
That's the point I made more than once here. The current Firewall doesn't have this basic feature that every other software Firewall in the world has.

Advanced/Expert users can set the firewall to "ASK" for full control.

[Flourgrader]

@Mr. Consumer,
I posted in this forum pretty much the same subject as is in your thread,
on December 04, 2021
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=309072.0;topicseen

Are these the options which you are complaining about not been
able to access any more in
Avast Premium Security ?
Program Version: 21.11.2500 (build 21.11.6809.528)
UI version:          1.0.683
Please,
see screenshot attached.

[Mr. Consumer]

Show me how I can do this in the new Avast Firewall? You can't.

Sorry to ask, but did you read the article provided in Reply #1..!?

I'm of the opinion if you don't like something, then don't use it and be done with it.

I haven't installed the firewall option in Avast Free 21.10.xxxx as for now I continue to use the Windows 10 firewall and I haven't touched it at all in over 4 years of using this win10 laptop.  I haven't has a single issue.

I used to Use Agnitum Pro Firewall (I had a life time license until it got sold), I initially started it up on default, training mode (for just over a week) to recognise the programs I used and how I worked/used the internet.  After that I rarely had to do anything to it. 

I honestly believe that for the vast majority they don't have to tweak their firewall to within an inch of its life, as my experience of the windows firewall on default settings attests.

You're right. I like Windows Firewall but the main issue I have with it is that any program/installer with admin rights can create a firewall rule without my knowledge. That's a huge downside of it. This is also one of the weak point of Microsoft Defender. With admin rights, it's very easy to put items into exclusions. Otherwise, Windows Firewall is great. It even has one feature that I really like which is, it notifies me when something tries to use inbound connection in Private firewall mode. Other AV firewall don't have this as far as I can remember.
But the downside that I just said is the main reason for not liking Windows Firewall.

@Mr Consumer: Do you ever read what's addressed to you or do you just keep posting?
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=309426.msg1668819#msg1668819

I did but looks like you haven't read mine. I already said that it doesn't matter how an average user use it. Like you, they don't touch the firewall anyway, so there's absolutely no reason to dumb it down like they did. The feature I'm talking about was very useful. Avast didn't care that expert users wouldn't like it.

Show me how I can do this in the new Avast Firewall? You can't.

Sorry to ask, but did you read the article provided in Reply #1..!?

I did, and I figured that out by myself even before I started this thread.
The list contains applications that has been executed on my PC so far. I can't add manually add something that hasn't been executed yet. The previous Firewall had that option, the new one doesn't.
That's the point I made more than once here. The current Firewall doesn't have this basic feature that every other software Firewall in the world has.

Advanced/Expert users can set the firewall to "ASK" for full control.

I used Firewall in ask mode before when I used ESET. They have the best Interactive firewall of all products and makes Avast look average. But anyway, I don't prefer using it in ask mode anymore. So it's not an option. I complained here to let Avast know that some users are not happy with their new approach, and as a consumer of Avast, I have all right to do this. I'm sure you understand it. Thanks for trying to help.

@Mr. Consumer,
I posted in this forum pretty much the same subject as is in your thread,
on December 04, 2021
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=309072.0;topicseen

Are these the options which you are complaining about not been
able to access any more in
Avast Premium Security ?
Program Version: 21.11.2500 (build 21.11.6809.528)
UI version:          1.0.683
Please,
see screenshot attached.

Yeah, you are right. It's not available anymore.

[Asyn]

Show me how I can do this in the new Avast Firewall? You can't.

Sorry to ask, but did you read the article provided in Reply #1..!?

I did, and I figured that out by myself even before I started this thread.
The list contains applications that has been executed on my PC so far. I can't add manually add something that hasn't been executed yet. The previous Firewall had that option, the new one doesn't.
That's the point I made more than once here. The current Firewall doesn't have this basic feature that every other software Firewall in the world has.

Advanced/Expert users can set the firewall to "ASK" for full control.

I used Firewall in ask mode before when I used ESET. They have the best Interactive firewall of all products and makes Avast look average. But anyway, I don't prefer using it in ask mode anymore. So it's not an option. I complained here to let Avast know that some users are not happy with their new approach, and as a consumer of Avast, I have all right to do this. I'm sure you understand it. Thanks for trying to help.

You're welcome.

[bob3160]

@ Mr Consumer
You certainly have a right to express your thoughts.
You also need to realize that no company can ever make everyone happy.
That's just a fact of life. Since we are all different, satisfying everyone is an impossibility.
The best anyone or any company can do is to make the majority happy.

[miguelgrado]

I think that those who think about the new Firewall are confusing the terms configure and protection.

The new firewall apart from the new interface, has not only the same protection, but more than the previous one with new additional protections.

What if it is that some sections are predetermined and can not be modified, but if add rules, although in 99% of users do not need to modify anything in general of any firewall of any known antivirus.

Maybe that should be modified if necessary, but we must give a margin to improve what is new.

For the rest the criticisms are without clear foundation, because this firewall complies with the same as the previous one, if not more (it is assumed)

No, you missed my main point.
Show me how I can do this in the new Avast Firewall? You can't.

Windows Firewall:
https://www.minitool.com/news/block-program-with-windows-firewall-009.html

ESET Firewall:
https://support.eset.com/en/kb2843-create-a-firewall-rule-to-allowdisallow-use-of-a-certain-application-in-my-windows-eset-home-product

Bitdefender Firewall:
https://www.bitdefender.com/consumer/support/answer/13425/

In addition to being able to put the firewall in mode to block any new connection or ask, we can block active or inactive applications from Firewall -applications.

From configuration -firewall rules, we can from the application rules tab, we can modify the rules created automatically, to block incoming connection, outgoing etc. we can modify the basic rules and as for the network rules, we can create new ones to our liking,

I really believe that we can configure the firewall without problem and the information it offers is clear and more than enough. what more can you ask for??

I believe and without offending, because I have used most firewalls on the market, that this is the best and for 99% of users do not need to touch or modify anything in a Firewall, therefore their beliefs are not being objective

Best regards

[Mr. Consumer]

@ Mr Consumer
You certainly have a right to express your thoughts.
You also need to realize that no company can ever make everyone happy.
That's just a fact of life. Since we are all different, satisfying everyone is an impossibility.
The best anyone or any company can do is to make the majority happy.

It's true, I agree, of course. I'm just frustrated that they crippled down a perfectly fine firewall since nobody asked for it. That's it, nothing more.

I think that those who think about the new Firewall are confusing the terms configure and protection.

The new firewall apart from the new interface, has not only the same protection, but more than the previous one with new additional protections.

What if it is that some sections are predetermined and can not be modified, but if add rules, although in 99% of users do not need to modify anything in general of any firewall of any known antivirus.

Maybe that should be modified if necessary, but we must give a margin to improve what is new.

For the rest the criticisms are without clear foundation, because this firewall complies with the same as the previous one, if not more (it is assumed)

No, you missed my main point.
Show me how I can do this in the new Avast Firewall? You can't.

Windows Firewall:
https://www.minitool.com/news/block-program-with-windows-firewall-009.html

ESET Firewall:
https://support.eset.com/en/kb2843-create-a-firewall-rule-to-allowdisallow-use-of-a-certain-application-in-my-windows-eset-home-product

Bitdefender Firewall:
https://www.bitdefender.com/consumer/support/answer/13425/

In addition to being able to put the firewall in mode to block any new connection or ask, we can block active or inactive applications from Firewall -applications.

From configuration -firewall rules, we can from the application rules tab, we can modify the rules created automatically, to block incoming connection, outgoing etc. we can modify the basic rules and as for the network rules, we can create new ones to our liking,

I really believe that we can configure the firewall without problem and the information it offers is clear and more than enough. what more can you ask for??

I believe and without offending, because I have used most firewalls on the market, that this is the best and for 99% of users do not need to touch or modify anything in a Firewall, therefore their beliefs are not being objective

Best regards

I had a typhoid fever a couple of years ago and I became so weak for 12-13 days. So I wasn't able to feed myself. My family members had to feed me. Food was getting in my mouth alright, but I was fully depended on them.
That's what happened to Avast Firewall. It gets the job done, but now I lack some basic controls that I had over it.

[DavidR]

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I had a typhoid fever a couple of years ago and I became so weak for 12-13 days. So I wasn't able to feed myself. My family members had to feed me. Food was getting in my mouth alright, but I was fully depended on them.
That's what happened to Avast Firewall. It gets the job done, but now I lack some basic controls that I had over it.

There seems to be no pleasing you, no matter what anyone says, you appear to have made your mind up (not to eat so to speak).

So I feel this topic has run its course and you should make your choice.

[Mr. Consumer]

<snip>
I had a typhoid fever a couple of years ago and I became so weak for 12-13 days. So I wasn't able to feed myself. My family members had to feed me. Food was getting in my mouth alright, but I was fully depended on them.
That's what happened to Avast Firewall. It gets the job done, but now I lack some basic controls that I had over it.

There seems to be no pleasing you, no matter what anyone says, you appear to have made your mind up (not to eat so to speak).

So I feel this topic has run its course and you should make your choice.

What is there to made my mind of? Avast removed some features from the firewall. If you're blind to a fact like that, then that's your issue.
I also said in my post to not give any excuse or justify the ridiculous decision. You ignored that, so your fault.
 Looks like you are the one who made up your mind that you would defend your beloved Avast no matter what.