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Hermite15

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Re: I know where you live...
« Reply #45 on: August 12, 2010, 02:28:05 AM »
Uhm... did you read the rest of my post?  I clearly said they could pay to get it my IP address.  I appreciate the knowledge you are trying to drop on me but please read first.  I don't get why you are so adamant on trying to prove me wrong based on another aspect of how your data is kept.  Like I also said in my previous post there are other ways to get your personal data... before all of this even existed.

I don't use the software that they provide sorry.  I use Trillian or did you miss that from the post you are referencing that I said I used MSN?  :)

I edited my last post...
 okay, trillian won't make any difference, unless you use OTR which you probably don't and never heard of. But hey, as long as you don't transmit sensitive info that's alright. Be careful when you're going to the supermarket, and don't worry about getting screwed on the net ;)

 ps: only reason you're running Trillian is because it's multi-protocol, not for security concerns that you don't have anyway. I hate chatting, and that's what you do, you're chatting. Bye ;)

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Re: I know where you live...
« Reply #46 on: August 12, 2010, 02:31:05 AM »
TA Logos at ... whatever you were trying to do.  I appreciate you demeaning me and all.  It was good fun :).

Quips and puns make take up space but internet trolls never bug me :P

Hermite15

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Re: I know where you live...
« Reply #47 on: August 12, 2010, 09:29:50 AM »
TA Logos at ... whatever you were trying to do.  I appreciate you demeaning me and all.  It was good fun :).

Quips and puns make take up space but internet trolls never bug me :P

wow internet trolls...that must be something you know about finally ;D I mean man you're asking for it. First your throwing a pseudo and cheap paranoid description of your daily life, and then you're telling us that Internet might spy but it doesn't matter, you're cool, not like the paranoid rest ;D may be time to stop taking those pills, or change the brand ???
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Re: I know where you live...
« Reply #48 on: August 12, 2010, 03:17:58 PM »
Basic Simple fact you can't hide on the internet.
GPS is just another tool. Like all tools, it also has a double edge.
Why are there so many paranoid people in this world or, maybe it's because this is a security related forum that makes
the mix a little lopsided >> ???  ;D ;D
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Re: I know where you live...
« Reply #49 on: August 12, 2010, 03:26:54 PM »
yeah there are extremes, on all sides:

 1 those who won't feel the need to protect their systems at all
 2 those paranoid about threats they're very unlikely to ever experience ;D
 3 those who worry about being worried :D hiding their face behind their hand when passing by a street cam

1 & 3 are sometimes the same it seems :) As to #2, it's sometimes a hobby ;D
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Re: I know where you live...
« Reply #50 on: August 12, 2010, 07:01:45 PM »
Logos... for a mature elderly fellow you are pretty confrontational.  What is the deal with putting me "in my place?"  I am not really paranoid I just think it's kind of odd the lengths private corporations are willing to go for advertising and marketing.  Aside from the means already taken.  It's kind of scary how obsessed people are with profit.  As well as potential means law enforcement could take to giving citations.  I really don't appreciate being treated as such when just having a casual conversation.  It's just a conversation about the potential something could be taken to.  If you really read that as me being "worried" or "paranoid" and that is your idea of "helping" me.  You have a really bad way of helping, it's more like pushing people away.  This board is turning into every other one I've visited.  People care more about being right, in their own mind, and putting people in their place than getting along and talking with others.  Again... I don't really get why you are constantly demeaning me.  I'm new to this forum and if you want new and repeat visitors you probably should treat people a bit better.  In the few days I've frequented these forums I've seen a good bit of arrogance.  Why are you implying I'm taking pills because I have an opinion you can't seem to grasp because you refuse to see things other than how you want?  Would it really make you feel better if I had psychological problems that warranted taking pills and you were harassing me over it?  Seriously... how immature can you get.

Hermite15

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Re: I know where you live...
« Reply #51 on: August 12, 2010, 07:04:08 PM »
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...and that is your idea of "helping" me

I never said I wanted to help you ;D

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Re: I know where you live...
« Reply #52 on: August 12, 2010, 07:10:15 PM »
It's amazing to get trolled here.  I never thought it would happen... usually it's by 15 year-old people.

Edit:  Seriously Logos... if you don't care about what I'm actually talking about why do you bother responding?  It's getting really old.

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Re: I know where you live...
« Reply #53 on: August 12, 2010, 10:10:51 PM »
Hi folks,

Stay on topic, please and do not change the discussion for something else. A side remark about "being paranoid" has been taken out of proportion. There is a big difference between being security aware, security savvy and paranoid. A paranoid is not knowing what is coming at him, her, it. It could be the shadow of a shrub on a dark night that looks like a werewolf, and one cries 'werewolf'.
The security aware also does not know exactly, but he is aware of some possibilities that could  be threatening security, and the security savvy knows what technological measures are being taken. Here in this last case for instance to make it impossible almost for a person to hide from tracking, so one can be traced for whatever reason right away. In the case of ad-launching, marketing, etc. this is not threatening to the person, only a minor nuisance, and can be beneficial even, but being used to exactly know where dissidents are could be a life-threatening technique. What an advantage is geo-location in the hands of a system that wants it to neutralize its adversaries? So you must think out the whole scale of possibilities for what it is being used for and can be used for, and for what it is already being used very subtly, and hordes of people do not even know about these aspects or can't be bothered to think about it. Those who give a sketch of what it all could lead to and the possible abuse, are not to be called paranoid or fear-mongering or old-fashioned etc. etc., they are not telling about blind panic, they are pointing about unwelcome developments that "could materialize". And while you are "the frog in the hot tub" then and you do not jump out while the temperature is getting up very, very gently it could fry your hind legs without you even knowing that it would hurt,

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Re: I know where you live...
« Reply #54 on: August 12, 2010, 11:10:12 PM »
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Stay on topic

Thanks Polonus. And that's exactly the reason why I atarted a new topic that should deal exclusively with geolocation and how to disable it on programs and phones.

See here.

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Re: I know where you live...
« Reply #55 on: August 13, 2010, 01:31:52 AM »
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Stay on topic

Thanks Polonus. And that's exactly the reason why I atarted a new topic that should deal exclusively with geolocation and how to disable it on programs and phones.

See here.
I'm glad you did that. This way we have a serious post just for the removal for those that feel it's an invasion of privacy.
The fact still remains, that there are many of us who don't feel that way and think that GPS is a great tool if properly used.
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Re: I know where you live...
« Reply #56 on: August 13, 2010, 10:53:06 AM »
yes, of course it's a great tool. And those worried about being spied should remember that unless a judge asked for it, i.e. allowed the cops to do it (spy you) it's not gonna happen. That's the legislation in the EU and the US too. Same like with Internet browsing and getting your ISP communicate your name and address (corresponding to IP and time); all these things need legal procedures to be done, so there's no reason to worry for a majority.

 edit: just as an example, there's a new law against piracy in France. And ISPs are currently fighting with the administration to get a refund every time they will have to communicate the name and address of someone (through an IP&time search). Why? because that costs the ISP money >>> about 8 Euros each time. So they're not gonna do it randomly everyday etc...
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