Author Topic: Melih Abdulhayoğlu: genius, madman, or just purporting another cloud scanner?  (Read 52008 times)

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The only winning post on their forum is to not post!
I'm the one they are trying to goat into posting and boy would I like to  >:( but,
it serves no purpose other than playing into their hands.
Stay away and allow them to continue to make fools out of themselves.  :)
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From my reading of this, it is like uploading a file to Virus total and then scanning it with all other AV's - but the difference is that the file is not shared, it is kept within one company.  To me that does not sound right or ethical

End of rant  ;D

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Quote from: Melih link at Comodo Forum=topic=66827.msg473641#msg473641 date=1293727479
BTW

I heard that some guys claim that the AV industry is working towards creating a "realtime sharing" and claims that its difficult to achieve.

Well...2 ways to achieve that...either share the samples or the results...They both achieve the same purpose for the end users.

DACS is available to any AV company for them to use. We will give them a license for free! And run the service for them for free

Also I heard that someone says that we don't want to spend money and don't want to create our own signatures hence we launched DACS.

My answer: Any AV company can send us their samples and we will generate the signatures for them for FREE! Yes, we will take on the cost of analysing and generating signatures for them for free!

Melih

Smart move I must say as Melih is thinking really quick and smart 8)....................any way it time for me to shut up and don't get involved 8) 8)
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Sounds more like a desperate move to me.  :)
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Sounds more like a desperate move to me.  :)

You reckon Bob 8)........................Maybe have to wait and see 8) 8)
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time for a little fun... following pics are showing:

1 a "Komodo" CEO at work
2 his forum herd playing (not sure what they're doing tbh ;D )


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LMAO! @Logos careful that long tail can give you a nasty whip ;D
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Please don't pick on the poor Comodo Dragon, it's not his fault.  :)
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Has Melih gone totally off his rocker ???

Melih has removed all the OFF the topic crap from https://forums.comodo.com/news-announcements-feedback-cis/dacs-released-distributed-and-collaborative-scanning-t66827.0.html;msg473622#msg473622

To a new topic call Bob, who accepted a Job to promote AVAST, is coming to our forums to bad mouth us - 2

https://forums.comodo.com/news-announcements-feedback-cis/bob-who-accepted-a-job-to-promote-avast-is-coming-to-our-forums-to-bad-mouth-us-2-t67144.0.html;msg473046#msg473046
I have no intentions of giving him the satisfactions of a reply. That kind of stupidity doesn't need a reply, it speaks for itself.  :(

About the topic about Bob... what can i say...? Hmmm... i would say: What the hell is going over Melih's mind?
And to be sincere: This all mess between Avast! vs. COMODO doesn't have the minimal of sense in my opinion.
It's better to back off and let this for once... Time will do his job and eventually turn this upside down (about Comodo situation) and I'm gonna laugh...

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this whole idea behind "trusted volunteers" running all the scanning seems a bit suspicious to me, u could look at it as a legal smokescreen because having real computer users with their AV's being the scanners just doesnt make sense and heres why.

Say for example that you are the volunteer and ur using Norton as ur AV. so someone submits a file to be scanned and thru the P2P network it gets written to ur disk (it has to, ther wuld be no other way to scan it). Let's say the file recieved by ur computer is actual malware, that means Norton would popup alerts at u letting u know in realtime, multiply this by however many potential hundreds to thousands of users submitting files to be scanned through DACS, the volunteers computers would be completely unusable from constant AV alerts.

Its simply impractical with the system Comodo is saying, thats why it feels like the idea of these "trusted volunteers" is simply a legal smokescreen for a bunch of machines Comodo has themselves which are simply scanning on-demand, not real volunteers who have AV's installed and running on their systems like implied by Comodo just to get past legal obligations. just sounds like one big coverup to me.

I don't trust them, they are being very vague and using dishonest business practices. but i guess we will see how it unfolds in the end.
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One interesting post at Wilders which may be a consideration

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What if the file your talking about essexboy  is one that Norton doesn't yet detect ???
Does that mean that this trusted volunteer now has an infected computer ???
We all know that there is no perfect AV.

(I see that wilders has now closed that Threat.)
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very good and interesting thinking from that poster essexboy, as melih said himself:

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CIS will use DACS... you can simply use CIS to take advantage of DACS. You don't need to be a contributor. We have enough contributors already and not looking for anymore tbh.

Melih

http://forums.comodo.com/news-announcements-feedback-cis/dacs-released-distributed-and-collaborative-scanning-t66827.0.html;msg470176#msg470176

... this reminds me of something I said in the beginning of this thread here, if sued, Comodo will argue "it's not us, it's the users" ... while hiding behind that smoke screen and having Comodo computers at work and using the AV's output for the benefit of... CIS.

edit: and reading Ewen's post, "users" will effectively transmit files to each other, without the use or need of a centrlized server >>> this would be completely suicidal on a big scale. ... meaning that it won't happen that way at all of course ;D

http://forums.comodo.com/news-announcements-feedback-cis/whats-dacs-and-what-does-it-stand-for-t65415.0.html;msg473027#msg473027


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What if the file your talking about essexboy  is one that Norton doesn't yet detect ???
Does that mean that this trusted volunteer now has an infected computer ???


according to Ewen's post (see my link above), technically the files are transmitted from peer to peer, not just the output of a scan as I first thought (I should have read his post with more patience in the first place)... so yes a participant's computer can get infected. But that won't happen, because the circle of participant is just a few users, already selected ;D

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And that Avast! trades virus data with their colleagues in the business as well as giving away over 120M copies of their AV. 
130 Millions
http://www.avast.com/security-software-home-office
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Correcting myself: 141+ Million users http://www.avast.com/community
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I was referencing the free ones-something well over 90% of the total, per Vlk.