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Firewalls and conflicts with avast 7
« on: May 31, 2012, 09:44:18 PM »
hi guys im what you call a average/moderate user  * looked at the recent thread Best firewall with avast " and im at a cross roads Comodo privitefirewall or Online armor now from what i can tell some firewalls have been having conflicts mainly comodo from what i can see have trouble operating alongside avast due to a flaw   on the part of some firewalls not willing to adapt to windows 7 code is that correct?
anyway what i need is a maximum security possible with minimal alerts also  advice on which of the 3 firewalls can co-exist the best with avast and the needed exclusions to make that happen thanks guys i love avast free

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Re: Firewalls and conflicts with avast 7
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2012, 01:16:15 AM »
All three I gave links to play well with avast and Win7.  :)

http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=98423.msg784711#msg784711
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Re: Firewalls and conflicts with avast 7
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2012, 02:16:23 AM »
yeah I saw that and its what help me narrow the choices down but this thread worries me
http://forums.comodo.com/firewall-help-cis/comodo-firewall-and-avast-7-t82382.0.html
and so does here
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=93953.0
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=317663
 also im not a advanced user so i don't know what rules and exclusions and such should be made for each firewall to work effectively
i think comodo seems to be the best firewall but im worred about the things i have read in the links above has anyone found a successful fix to the comodo issue
i do alot of online shopping and such so really need the best solution i dont have a nat so i need this firewall
« Last Edit: June 01, 2012, 03:31:27 AM by asianmusicguy »

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Re: Firewalls and conflicts with avast 7
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2012, 03:55:17 AM »
yeah I saw that and its what help me narrow the choices down but this thread worries me
http://forums.comodo.com/firewall-help-cis/comodo-firewall-and-avast-7-t82382.0.html
and so does here
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=93953.0
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=317663

Yes Comodo does not have control on outbound traffic under Windows 7. Niether Windows firewall. A pity.


...also im not a advanced user so i don't know what rules and exclusions and such should be made for each firewall to work effectively..

So better to try other firewall because Comodo has a steep learning curve. Try to learn using a simpler firewall and when you feel ready, and if everything has been worked out between Comodo and Avast!, switch to Comodo later on.

A good place to read about free firewalls:

http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-firewall.htm

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Re: Firewalls and conflicts with avast 7
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2012, 04:19:02 AM »
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Re: Firewalls and conflicts with avast 7
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2012, 04:26:48 AM »
i see from that limk that zonealarm isnt that great whats the learning curve on OA?and if i choose OA what settings do i need to modify so they can coexist well  also how good is outpost these days for reference on my home pc I amused to the autmatic like nature of kap kasperky pure
« Last Edit: June 01, 2012, 04:41:04 AM by asianmusicguy »

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Re: Firewalls and conflicts with avast 7
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2012, 08:19:07 AM »
Outpost free 6.51 ( the standalone firewall ) is still available from sites like Filehippo http://www.filehippo.com/download_outpost_firewall/ but the program is no longer updated, you can download the free Outpost suite 7.1.1 http://free.agnitum.com/ and disable during install all other features bar the firewall. Outpost and Online Armor http://www.emsisoft.com/en/software/oa/ are very similar in there usability, set them to auto learn for the first week exclude the firewall program in the File System Shield exclusions and set all instances of your AV to allow all in the applications list.

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Re: Firewalls and conflicts with avast 7
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2012, 07:16:58 PM »
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exclude the firewall program in the File System Shield exclusions and set all instances of your AV to allow all in the applications list.
can you explain this part ?
 thanks

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Re: Firewalls and conflicts with avast 7
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2012, 07:30:11 PM »
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exclude the firewall program in the File System Shield exclusions and set all instances of your AV to allow all in the applications list.
can you explain this part ?
 thanks
Not much else to explain really, add the firewall program file to the exclusions in the avast file system shield and the avast processes such as AVAST.SETUP, AVASTSVC.EXE, AVASTUI.EXE you would set to allow all in the applications list of the firewall ( not sure if applications is the correct name in OA, might be processes ).

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Re: Firewalls and conflicts with avast 7
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2012, 08:09:59 PM »
alright thanks but im a little concerned OA doesn't? allow auto updates something like that's ok   for MBAM but for a firewall?

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Re: Firewalls and conflicts with avast 7
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2012, 08:49:47 PM »
alright thanks but im a little concerned OA doesn't? allow auto updates something like that's ok   for MBAM but for a firewall?

Rarely a firewall needs updates. The updates done, at most, is to add programs to its white list so that the firewall let the program thru. Now if the firewall has some kind of malware detection or heuristic capability you may recive updates once in a while, but not always. I use Comodo Firewall with D+ and only update the program when there is a new version. Asyn, an Avast! Über, still uses Comodo 3.14 which is at least a couple of years old, but one of its best stable firewall.

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Re: Firewalls and conflicts with avast 7
« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2012, 09:01:14 PM »
hmm alright then
i really want so based on what we have discussed online armor free is a good choice?
 really wanted to go with comodo but the no outbound worried me
can anyone do a little step by step guide for me id be so greatful
« Last Edit: June 02, 2012, 04:41:34 AM by asianmusicguy »

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Re: Firewalls and conflicts with avast 7
« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2012, 05:52:56 AM »
After the install set your exclusions in avast before letting OA reboot the system, once you have restarted the system set your security programs to allow all in OA then reboot again.
OA has always required two boots to fully install and uninstall.
Anymore info will have to given by one off the members that are still using OA as many things have probably changed since i used it  ;)

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Re: Firewalls and conflicts with avast 7
« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2012, 03:53:52 PM »
Online Armor has issues with Flash Player updates. That's why I switched to Private Firewall.
Before installing OA Free do complete scans with avast, MBAM and SAS. If this is not done OA Free will
"think" everything on your machine is "safe".  Also Online Armor is currently beta testing a new version.
No word as to when it will be a full release.  :)
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Re: Firewalls and conflicts with avast 7
« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2012, 05:44:49 PM »
im nit worried about the flash issue i can always diable it well it updates but will the beta fix that?
also your member safe surf gave a great post on OA recently on how to exclude avast found it yesteday ill be damned if i can find it again tho
and im pretty sure my system is clean as ive been running a trial of kasperky pure and using cc cleaner and mbam  weekly
« Last Edit: June 02, 2012, 06:05:04 PM by asianmusicguy »