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Re: Lastest Windows Update Problems
« Reply #360 on: February 09, 2015, 01:09:58 PM »
Hallo,

after many time to check the problem with your program an KB3000850 I like to ask you Asyn how I get the driver patch 722 because in my actually setup.exe is always 712.

Or is this patch only for specially people ...

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Re: Lastest Windows Update Problems
« Reply #361 on: March 02, 2015, 09:34:13 PM »
Are the issues relating to KB3000850 resolved now if I'm running the latest version of Avast (free version, 2015.10.0.2208, from installer downloaded on the 13th of February)? Only KB3000850 is now showing up as an important update for Windows 8.1 as of today and I wanted to avoid any problems.

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« Reply #362 on: March 17, 2015, 12:40:42 PM »
I am using the latest free Avast! and simply cannot get this (newly) important update to install with win 8.1.  I've given up trying to get it to go.  The windows update troubleshooter keeps finding (and supposedly correcting) database corruption problems but this does no good.  This is just a report of the fact that the problem is back btw.

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Re: Lastest Windows Update Problems
« Reply #363 on: March 17, 2015, 04:29:51 PM »
I had latest version of Avast 2015.2214 free  and had trouble with a windows update KB 2267602 (windows defender update) for win 8.1. It continually failed  giving me a error code 80070005.

I could not get it to install until I completely uninstalled avast . (disabling it did not help)

(I do not have windows defender running on the machine of course)

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Re: Lastest Windows Update Problems
« Reply #364 on: March 19, 2015, 01:19:24 PM »
Similar experience here.

Perfectly working system until KB3000850 installed and now get intermittent slow machine.

Googling bought me here, sure this is something Avast must be looking into?
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Re: Lastest Windows Update Problems
« Reply #365 on: March 19, 2015, 04:07:31 PM »
I had latest version of Avast 2015.2214 free  and had trouble with a windows update KB 2267602 (windows defender update) for win 8.1. It continually failed  giving me a error code 80070005.

I could not get it to install until I completely uninstalled avast . (disabling it did not help)

(I do not have windows defender running on the machine of course)
If you use Avast on Windows 8.1, you should not be using Windows Defender.
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Re: Lastest Windows Update Problems
« Reply #366 on: March 19, 2015, 09:04:17 PM »
For me, running Avast disables Defender.

However when installing the dreaded windows update defender kept on enabling/disabling itself and generated lots of warnings.

So tonight I rolled back to a disk image taken before the update installed, uninstalled Avast, applied the windows update and waited half an hour and then reinstalled Avast.

Time will tell if this has solved the go slows.
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Re: Lastest Windows Update Problems
« Reply #367 on: March 20, 2015, 02:13:25 AM »
Hi Baz8755,

It appears Windows Defender is integrated into 8.0 and 8.1 Windows, so it is not possible to uninstall it:  http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_8-windows_install/can-windows-defender-be-uninstalled-on-windows-8/8facf286-c6b1-4994-b789-3a921b979e81
It does appear your issues lie with Defender conflicting with Avast!, tho.  As long as you had Defender enabled during your Windows Updates after uninstalling Avast! you should be ok.  Defender would've provided your antivirus protection while you were updating.  Just be sure to manually disable it before re-installing Avast!. 

See below.

Suggest reading the reply from Patrick Barker and clicking the url link there to get more information.  At least you will know how to turn it off manually in the future should this issue ever come up again.   :)

(Slowdowns are what happens when two resident antivirus programs fight over scanning the same file at the same time, and much worse side-effects can happen too.)
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Re: Lastest Windows Update Problems
« Reply #368 on: March 20, 2015, 03:03:30 AM »
Similar experience here.

Perfectly working system until KB3000850 installed and now get intermittent slow machine.

Googling bought me here, sure this is something Avast must be looking into?

I got that update on December 1st 2014

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Re: Lastest Windows Update Problems
« Reply #369 on: March 20, 2015, 10:11:08 AM »
Hi Baz8755,

It appears Windows Defender is integrated into 8.0 and 8.1 Windows, so it is not possible to uninstall it:  http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_8-windows_install/can-windows-defender-be-uninstalled-on-windows-8/8facf286-c6b1-4994-b789-3a921b979e81
It does appear your issues lie with Defender conflicting with Avast!, tho.  As long as you had Defender enabled during your Windows Updates after uninstalling Avast! you should be ok.  Defender would've provided your antivirus protection while you were updating.  Just be sure to manually disable it before re-installing Avast!. 

See below.

Suggest reading the reply from Patrick Barker and clicking the url link there to get more information.  At least you will know how to turn it off manually in the future should this issue ever come up again.   :)

(Slowdowns are what happens when two resident antivirus programs fight over scanning the same file at the same time, and much worse side-effects can happen too.)

A couple of things

1) I got the cursed update on Sunday 15th and until that point I had never gone into Windows Defender and turned it off, during the update I got all kinds of warnings about AV not running and Defender started up and then crashed etc. Eventually things settled down and all seemed fine apart from the occassional slow boot, my PC normally takes only a few seconds to login but when going slow it would take several minutes.

2) When I did my new install by rolling back to prior to release, uninstalling Avast, Applying update, re-installing Avast. I never disabled Defender and defender is now saying AV is being handled by another program and will not let me into any of it's config to shut it donw, I expect this it is the way it always worked before the update in that it should detect Avast and not start up.

I am hoping that the way I have configured things now will be stable, (ie Avast running and Defender not running due to detecting Avast). Problems may occur if Defender somehow starts due to not detecting Avast but this should never happen unless something somewhere is broken.
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Re: Lastest Windows Update Problems
« Reply #370 on: March 24, 2015, 06:53:49 PM »
Yes as the latest installer has the fixed driver

Download Avast Uninstall Utility to your Desktop.
Download the correct version of Avast 
Avast Free
Avast Pro
Avast Internet Security
Avast Premier
Disconnect from the net
Uninstall Avast via control panel

  • Run the uninstall tool and accept the reboot to safe mode
  • Once complete reboot your system
  • Reinstall Avast
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1.- I have Windows 8.1
2.- I had Avast.
3.- I Installed KB3000850.
4.- I had some problems, as everybody.
5.- I followed your cleaning and removing Avast procedure
6.- I reinstalled Avast but I still have problems, Windows crashes randomly and I can only move the mouse without being able to do anything.
7.- Uninstalling Avast and problems are solved

What can I do? I want to continue to use Avast!
« Last Edit: March 24, 2015, 09:30:01 PM by ciborio »

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Re: Lastest Windows Update Problems
« Reply #371 on: April 11, 2015, 05:29:36 PM »
Still having issues myself

Everything was fine before this patch and although my workaround seemed to have cured it I have still having the following 3 random issues on boot that never occured before the patch

1) Extremely slow startup and performance
2) Logging in cannot find profile and creates default profile
3) The Group Policy Client service failed the sign-in The universal unique identifier (UUID) type is not supported

I never had any of these issues before the patch but now am getting one of these at least once a week. In all cases a reboot solves the issue.

So I am still no closer to knowing if it's an issue with Avast or the patch itself but other forums have suggest that removing Avast does seem to stop the issues. This is something that I do not want to do as I have been an Avast user for more years than I care to remember.

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Re: Lastest Windows Update Problems
« Reply #372 on: April 11, 2015, 05:37:14 PM »
There are  two other thing you could try:
Start with this - http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Open-the-Windows-Update-troubleshooter
If that doesn't work, then do the following:
uninstall KB3000850.
Reboot.
Check for Windows updates.
When you again see the update for KB3000850, disable Avast till the computer is restarted:

Once that's done, start your update.
When the update completes, reboot and see if you receive any other messages.
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Re: Lastest Windows Update Problems
« Reply #373 on: April 11, 2015, 06:20:58 PM »
That's pretty much what I did to get the patch installed

*I rolled back to a drive image prior to patch.
*Unistalled Avast
*Installed Patch
*Re-installed Avast

It does seem that this patch and Avast do not want to play nicely together, 90% of the time they will tolerate each other and the other 10% all hell breaks loose.
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Re: Lastest Windows Update Problems
« Reply #374 on: April 12, 2015, 10:11:30 AM »
I have a theory as to what is going on with my machine that may help track the issue.

Bearing in mind I have successfully installed the patch and that my issues intermittent I think it may be down to the timing of logging in after boot up.

My machine is a windows 8.1 laptop that is using the quick shutdown/startup. The go slows/profile issues seem to occur if I do not login instantly the machine has booted, also the problems seem not to occur if I wait a minute or so after booting.

So I am guessing there is a point during startup when windows/Avast are doing things and if you happen to login at that point you will get go slows/default profiles/etc.....

Just a theory but with over 30 years as a software developer myself I know every little clue helps ;)
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