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Re: [COVID-19] - News & Discussion
« Reply #150 on: May 19, 2020, 05:01:07 PM »
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Re: [COVID-19] - News & Discussion
« Reply #151 on: May 24, 2020, 12:43:14 PM »
According to these data, in the Netherlands and the UK no-one has recovered.
Re: https://ourtechtrends.com/corona-live-updates/

In the USA 446927 recovered. How come?

Conclusion - not a single soul is immune from statistics and darned lies?

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Re: [COVID-19] - News & Discussion
« Reply #152 on: May 24, 2020, 02:08:20 PM »
@Damien,
Statistics is a way of using numbers to prove my point even when it's not the truth.
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Re: [COVID-19] - News & Discussion
« Reply #153 on: May 24, 2020, 03:21:02 PM »
According to these data, in the Netherlands and the UK no-one has recovered.
Re: https://ourtechtrends.com/corona-live-updates/

In the USA 446927 recovered. How come?

Conclusion - not a single soul is immune from statistics and darned lies?

polonus

pol, that's because neither the UK nor the Netherlands keep a record of recovery numbers.

The chart should have stated "N/A" or similar,

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Re: [COVID-19] - News & Discussion
« Reply #154 on: May 24, 2020, 03:23:57 PM »
What a dummy!


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Re: [COVID-19] - News & Discussion
« Reply #155 on: May 24, 2020, 06:23:50 PM »
According to these data, in the Netherlands and the UK no-one has recovered.
Re: https://ourtechtrends.com/corona-live-updates/

In the USA 446927 recovered. How come?

Conclusion - not a single soul is immune from statistics and darned lies?

polonus

Ultimately, those infected, minus those who died = those who recovered.

The problem being, those not detected, asymptomatic, or the tens of thousands still being treated, or self-isolated and not confirmed as infected. 
Or as they say in statistics, rubbish in rubbish out.
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Re: [COVID-19] - News & Discussion
« Reply #156 on: May 24, 2020, 10:13:20 PM »
@DavidR,

That's why I fear that a covid-19 app is never gonna work. It is just gonna give us all a false sense of being secure.
(yep, for what actually?). Any sneeze or cough could be "that particular sneeze or cough",
especially when the elderly start to sneeze and cough.  ;D

In the old days lepers moved around with a rattle, now the alleged old corona prepper will cling to a smartphone app.
Even when they make it mandatory it does not seem to change the overall situation much i.m.h.o.

We all going to experience a plandemic crash of the economy, bigger then we have ever seen.
Better to steer away earlier than later from the situation at hand, because this seems to me to be the nastiest part.

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Re: [COVID-19] - News & Discussion
« Reply #157 on: May 24, 2020, 10:26:35 PM »
@DavidR,

That's why I fear that a covid-19 app is never gonna work. It is just gonna give us all a false sense of being secure.
(yep, for what actually?). Any sneeze or cough could be "that particular sneeze or cough",
especially when the elderly start to sneeze and cough.  ;D
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Would you believe that in the Army I had to take a Testing Techniques and Analysis course, essentially what to test, when to test, how to test and validation (statistics) of training.  Even harder to believe was that this course was two weeks long. 

All this to prevent the rubbish in element so you didn't get rubbish out. 

The major problem is from statistics, you can manipulate the answers you get by the parameters you set.  As they also say, Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics.
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Re: [COVID-19] - News & Discussion
« Reply #158 on: May 27, 2020, 08:35:54 AM »
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Re: [COVID-19] - News & Discussion
« Reply #159 on: May 27, 2020, 01:33:09 PM »
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Re: [COVID-19] - News & Discussion
« Reply #160 on: June 01, 2020, 08:00:27 AM »
Should you trust the Apple/Google contact-tracing app?
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Re: [COVID-19] - News & Discussion
« Reply #161 on: June 01, 2020, 11:15:58 AM »
Should you trust the Apple/Google contact-tracing app?
https://blog.avast.com/should-you-trust-contact-tracing-apps

Aren't Governments already working on contract tracing apps ?

Though UK Government IT initiatives in the past have been woeful, I have little confidence in them.  But the current UK Government scheme for covid-19 tracking, the data is meant to be kept for 20 years.  Supposedly stored on Amazon computers but not accessible by Amazon, I find that hard to believe.

Now do I trust Google or Apple, probably even less than Governments.
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Re: [COVID-19] - News & Discussion
« Reply #162 on: June 02, 2020, 12:41:13 PM »
But the current UK Government scheme for covid-19 tracking, the data is meant to be kept for 20 years.  Supposedly stored on Amazon computers but not accessible by Amazon, I find that hard to believe.
Wow, 20 years, that's a crazy timeframe. :o I wonder if anyone accepts such TOS. ???
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Re: [COVID-19] - News & Discussion
« Reply #163 on: June 02, 2020, 04:27:44 PM »
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« Reply #164 on: June 02, 2020, 06:28:42 PM »
But the current UK Government scheme for covid-19 tracking, the data is meant to be kept for 20 years.  Supposedly stored on Amazon computers but not accessible by Amazon, I find that hard to believe.
Wow, 20 years, that's a crazy timeframe. :o I wonder if anyone accepts such TOS. ???

I believe they said it was to be a guideline information database for possible future infections.

Me being me find that hard to swallow as would be signing up for the app in the first place. 

In some other related information, they consider the hoaxers reporting false infection from a location where the population density is high.  Scaring the pants of people and provoking an adverse/false response from governments.  We all know there are plenty of these cranks about.
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