well I have done the manual update and it is saying VPN or something already up to date. HOWEVER I am still getting the exclamation mark and it still says I am on virus definition 121003-1. It is 2 am and I am tired but I am fed up with this. Been fannying around with manual updates, rootfixes and following net advice jargon for ages. I have never had this issue with Norton or Kapersky. I was told this Avast was the best. Only had it a month and regret it now. I have sent off as support ticket as have paid version.