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Title: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 05, 2014, 04:37:51 PM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1412519676205-99807.png)
  Some New shortcuts in Windows 10 (http://www.pcworld.com/article/2691390/these-are-windows-10s-new-keyboard-shortcuts.html#tk.nl_today)

Snapping window: Windows key + Left or Right — Can be used with UP or DOWN to get into quadrants.
Quadrants is the new Snap view mode that pins apps to the four quarters of the screen.
Switch to recent window: Alt + Tab – LeBlanc says: "Hold shows new Task View window view, let go and switches to app."
Task view: Windows + Tab – LeBlanc says: "New Task view opens up and stays open."
Create new virtual desktop: Windows key + Ctrl + D
Close current virtual desktop: Windows key + Ctrl + F4
Switch virtual desktop : Windows key + Ctrl + Left or Right
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 05, 2014, 04:42:36 PM
               Windows 10 In Pictures (http://www.pcworld.com/article/2690852/windows-10-in-pictures-see-the-technical-previews-new-features.html#tk.nl_today)
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1412520058963-68356.png)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Michael (alan1998) on October 05, 2014, 09:33:26 PM
Does windows 10 include any significant performance boosts?

Most of the current "Virtual Desktop", I think will be stupid since VirtualBox, Virtual PC etc are already out.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on October 05, 2014, 09:37:01 PM
Well, it runs much better than Window 8.1 in my VMs on the same specs.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 05, 2014, 10:11:01 PM
Well, it runs much better than Window 8.1 in my VMs on the same specs.
I think that's more wishful thinking than actual fact since windows 8 was already pretty optimized.
I've installed it on a separate partition on the same drive as Windows 8.1. I really find no speed difference between
the two OS.
That said, I haven't run any tests to confirm or deny that perception.
To me those types of tests really mean very little.
Just like my AV it's actual real world usage that determines what I think of the product. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 06, 2014, 02:48:00 AM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1412559974858-59473.png) (http://youtu.be/Q8USjwGwCB8)
      http://youtu.be/Q8USjwGwCB8 (http://youtu.be/Q8USjwGwCB8)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Asyn on October 06, 2014, 06:49:31 AM
Thanks for this thread Bob, subscribed. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: pmcguire1 on October 06, 2014, 01:11:37 PM
My 64bit win10 won't accept Avast - campatability issue.
When will this be resolved ?
Have others experienced it ?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 06, 2014, 01:38:38 PM
My 64bit win10 won't accept Avast - campatability issue.
When will this be resolved ?
Have others experienced it ?
avast! at this point does not support this new and still in development OS.
Patience. avast! will work in Windows 10 when it gets closer to being officially released.
Right now Windows 10 is still a Preview Release. Not even in beta stage.
If you're running Windows 10 then your default protection is provided by Microsoft Defender.
There are some other AV's that work on Windows 10. More information available at:
http://answers.microsoft.com/thread/db2eb108-feee-4c4b-831b-cd56934eb28d (http://answers.microsoft.com/thread/db2eb108-feee-4c4b-831b-cd56934eb28d)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on October 06, 2014, 06:09:57 PM
Hi Bob
Snip> "There are some other AV's that work on Windows 10"

Bob, my concern is 'How effective' or 'reliable' would any 3rd. party AV be in an OS who's code will be constantly changing

Edit: Yes, and I also think this will be/is a very good Topic  ;)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 06, 2014, 08:39:18 PM
Hi Bob
Snip> "There are some other AV's that work on Windows 10"

Bob, my concern is 'How effective' or 'reliable' would any 3rd. party AV be in an OS who's code will be constantly changing

Edit: Yes, and I also think this will be/is a very good Topic  ;)
It should be just as effective as it was in Windows 8.1 since Windows 10 basically uses the same OS with some modifications.
Can't wait till avast! will be among those that can be installed on Windows 10. Right now, it's Windows Defender. I just can't bring myself to installing a competitors product.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Michael (alan1998) on October 07, 2014, 02:28:53 PM
I noticed a massive increase like Steven, Bob.

My Virtual Machine takes only a few seconds to boot up. Non-SSD, 32GB of HDD Space + 4GB of RAM... Windows 8.1 for me took the same time on an SSD (32GB) w/ 16GB's of RAM.

Main difference being, 8.1 (My first OS) took the same time too boot on my SSD, and 4times as much ram as Windows 10 does on VirtualBox.

I will be Dual Booting my system within the next 8 hours. I already have EUFI and all that jazz. It'll be interesting to see whether or not my system will co-operate. I've not received conformation that Windows 10, my BIOS and GPU will support Win 10. If not, well, Intel Adapter is what I'll be using -_-

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 07, 2014, 02:54:35 PM
Interesting. Keep us informed. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 07, 2014, 03:37:44 PM

(http://static.neow.in/images/uploaded/2014/10/screen_shot_2014-10-06_at_10.29.22_am.jpg)

          How to uninstall preview updates in Windows 10 (http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-10-how-to-uninstall-preview-updates)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Michael (alan1998) on October 07, 2014, 04:21:26 PM
Interesting. Keep us informed. :)

Will do. Anyone else want to know how it works out? You and Geekstogo want to know lol
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 07, 2014, 04:53:54 PM

snip

          How to uninstall preview updates in Windows 10 (http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-10-how-to-uninstall-preview-updates)
Some additional pictures:
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1412696688613-43770.png)
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1412696861527-46770.png)
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1412696964379-36112.png)
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1412697305627-38200.png)
The trick is to hold down the shift key before you select Restart

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on October 07, 2014, 06:24:30 PM
I had a problem getting into 10 because I installed it while on my wireless connection. That would have been fine except that the driver Win 10 picked for my wireless card didn't work right. When I got to the part about setting up my account, it kept saying I needed to be connected to the internet. I skipped that step and went on with the rest. The result was that when I tried to get into Win 10 from then lock screen, I couldn't because no account was set up. What I did to fix this was to connect through a cable, go to the screen shown by Bob and choose reset. I had to make sure I was targeting the Win 10 partition and not the Win 7 one because I would have lost everything if it was targeted wrong. After the somewhat lengthy reset process the setup for Win 10 began all over again and I was able to set up my account. Everything then went smoothly and I was able to fully get into the preview. The wireless card still wouldn't function and I had to manually trick the computer into installing the same driver used in Win 7. I reported the problem through the Windows Feedback app.

I guess the moral of the story is that you should connect through an Ethernet cable when installing the preview and not depend on a wireless connection working right.

Since I have it in a dual boot setup with Win 7, I can definitely say that 10 is faster than 7 but then so is 8/8.1. I really have no way to compare 10 with 8 as far as performance but in other areas, it's much better. You never get a glimpse of the "Metro" screen on a desktop PC unless you really set out to see it and the Start Menu just about takes away the need to install any third party utilities like Classic Shell. I could do without the tiles in the right pane but they can be removed and the whole thing can be customized how you want it. The only thing missing is the option to add the IE browser favorites to the Start Menu. The option is not there like in 7 and 8. I'm hoping it was just an omission on their part and I did report it through the feedback. Jumping right to a favorite site right from the Start Menu is the thing I use the Start Menu for more than anything else. You can pin the Favorites folder but then you have to click the shortcut, open the folder, and double click on the favorite. Having Favorites in a mouse over menu directly in the Start Menu is so much better. Maybe somebody will figure out a way to do it if MS doesn't add it back.

Windows 10 is simply what Windows 8 should have been from the very beginning. All the uproar about a new UI and new ways of doing things would have been greatly reduced and the OS would be more widely accepted than it is.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 07, 2014, 06:37:43 PM

@Dch48,I have both a 32 and 64 bit Dell Laptop on which I installed Windows 10 on it's own partition.
Both computer use a WiFi connection and both had no problems.
The install of Windows 10 on the 32 bit system was actually done at my Senior Center where the
WiFi signal is marginal at best.
Guess it has to do with the WiFi card installed in your particular system.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on October 07, 2014, 06:50:06 PM

@Dch48,I have both a 32 and 64 bit Dell Laptop on which I installed Windows 10 on it's own partition.
Both computer use a WiFi connection and both had no problems.
The install of Windows 10 on the 32 bit system was actually done at my Senior Center where the
WiFi signal is marginal at best.
Guess it has to do with the WiFi card installed in your particular system.
Yeah, when I searched for a solution to the problem I saw that my card had the same problem in Win 8 and none of the drivers released for 8 or 8.1 would work right. That's most likely why the driver Win 10 selected didn't work either. It is the combination Bluetooth 2070/ Broadcom 4313GN 802.11 b/g/n Wireless Adapter. I have never used the Bluetooth part though.

I think it is always a good idea to connect with a cable anyway. When I installed Ubuntu in a separate partition a while back (and subsequently removed it after less than a day) it specifically said to connect through a wired connection and not wireless.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 07, 2014, 06:52:55 PM
Wired connection isn't always available. Especially not here at the senior center.... :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Michael (alan1998) on October 07, 2014, 10:47:56 PM
So, Dual Boot is well, delayed. The program I was using, isn't reading the EHDD I have. Need to find an actual FlashDrive.

Got a flashdrive, setting stuff up :). This will answer a few questions
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 07, 2014, 11:00:16 PM
So, Dual Boot is well, delayed. The program I was using, isn't reading the EHDD I have. Need to find an actual FlashDrive.

Got a flashdrive, setting stuff up :). This will answer a few questions
Why not set a a new partition on your current HD ? Then burn the iso to a dvd and install from there ???
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Michael (alan1998) on October 08, 2014, 01:54:32 AM
Windows 10 wasn't seeing the new partition, but I see what went wrong. Little late to fix though... I will reinstall seven on the weekend, then try again. The virtual Machine was SO EASY, the actual computer, not soo much!


(The new partition was being read as NO MEDIA )
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on October 08, 2014, 03:11:24 AM
I had a problem getting into 10 because I installed it while on my wireless connection. That would have been fine except that the driver Win 10 picked for my wireless card didn't work right. When I got to the part about setting up my account, it kept saying I needed to be connected to the internet. I skipped that step and went on with the rest. The result was that when I tried to get into Win 10 from then lock screen, I couldn't because no account was set up. What I did to fix this was to connect through a cable, go to the screen shown by Bob and choose reset. I had to make sure I was targeting the Win 10 partition and not the Win 7 one because I would have lost everything if it was targeted wrong. After the somewhat lengthy reset process the setup for Win 10 began all over again and I was able to set up my account. Everything then went smoothly and I was able to fully get into the preview. The wireless card still wouldn't function and I had to manually trick the computer into installing the same driver used in Win 7. I reported the problem through the Windows Feedback app.

I guess the moral of the story is that you should connect through an Ethernet cable when installing the preview and not depend on a wireless connection working right.

Since I have it in a dual boot setup with Win 7, I can definitely say that 10 is faster than 7 but then so is 8/8.1. I really have no way to compare 10 with 8 as far as performance but in other areas, it's much better. You never get a glimpse of the "Metro" screen on a desktop PC unless you really set out to see it and the Start Menu just about takes away the need to install any third party utilities like Classic Shell. I could do without the tiles in the right pane but they can be removed and the whole thing can be customized how you want it. The only thing missing is the option to add the IE browser favorites to the Start Menu. The option is not there like in 7 and 8. I'm hoping it was just an omission on their part and I did report it through the feedback. Jumping right to a favorite site right from the Start Menu is the thing I use the Start Menu for more than anything else. You can pin the Favorites folder but then you have to click the shortcut, open the folder, and double click on the favorite. Having Favorites in a mouse over menu directly in the Start Menu is so much better. Maybe somebody will figure out a way to do it if MS doesn't add it back.

Windows 10 is simply what Windows 8 should have been from the very beginning. All the uproar about a new UI and new ways of doing things would have been greatly reduced and the OS would be more widely accepted than it is.
If your wireless/blue tooth card is always problematic then it might be wise to upgrade it to something better, I recently upgraded my laptops Atheros wireless/blue tooth card to an Intel 7260 ac and it's much better and only cost $20 :)
Concerning favourites...why not just drag and pin the links to the IE icon in the taskbar! then a right click on the IE icon will show all your sites for quick access and the private browsing is also accessed easiest via the same right click.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on October 08, 2014, 04:38:07 AM
If your wireless/blue tooth card is always problematic then it might be wise to upgrade it to something better, I recently upgraded my laptops Atheros wireless/blue tooth card to an Intel 7260 ac and it's much better and only cost $20 :)
Concerning favourites...why not just drag and pin the links to the IE icon in the taskbar! then a right click on the IE icon will show all your sites for quick access and the private browsing is also accessed easiest via the same right click.
I could do that but I have like 100 sites in my favorites, organized into folders for Computer stuff, Forums, etc. I'd have to pin them one by one. I also never use Private browsing.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on October 08, 2014, 04:54:26 AM
100 favourites :o just the most commonly used few then ;)

I always use the private browsing for banking and online purchasing, that's what it's for :)

Back to topic discussion now :-X
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 08, 2014, 03:45:41 PM
Registry tweak enables faster start-up for Apps in Windows 10 (http://winaero.com/blog/speed-up-the-startup-of-desktop-apps-in-windows-10/) (Thanks to Winearo)
(http://winaero.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/startup-delay-Windows-10-600x309.png)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on October 08, 2014, 04:13:36 PM
There are multiple speed up tweaks provided here http://www.askvg.com/collection-of-registry-tweaks-for-windows-7/ they also work on Win10 in one simple registry script download, the download also come with a script to remove the tweaks if you don't want them.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Michael (alan1998) on October 09, 2014, 02:34:38 AM
Read THIS (http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2014/10/06/windows-10-spying/)

It is the most jaw dropping thing you will ever read about Windows 10. Talk about a MASSIVE invasion of ones privacy.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on October 09, 2014, 02:46:21 AM
It's a technical preview, so just like every other technical preview over the years they will collect information to see what and how the OS is being used and performing, while using a preview version you are supposed to be forwarding information about usage performance and bugs discovered as well.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on October 09, 2014, 03:45:21 AM
Read THIS (http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2014/10/06/windows-10-spying/)

It is the most jaw dropping thing you will ever read about Windows 10. Talk about a MASSIVE invasion of ones privacy.
Nothing new. The same things have gone on in every preview version. It's much ado about nothing once again.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 09, 2014, 02:20:48 PM
Read THIS (http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2014/10/06/windows-10-spying/)

It is the most jaw dropping thing you will ever read about Windows 10. Talk about a MASSIVE invasion of ones privacy.
If that bother you, I suggest you never sign up to do any beta testing. Not even for avast!.
Sharing information of all types is a part of the beta testing process. Easy enough to avoid by simply no participating.
You wouldn't share your precious information but you also miss out on all the fun and excitement of being among the first
to try something brand new. :)
You can also find a further explanation about the so called "key Logger" claim at:
http://www.zdnet.com/windows-10-youve-got-questions-ive-got-answers-7000034462/ (http://www.zdnet.com/windows-10-youve-got-questions-ive-got-answers-7000034462/)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 09, 2014, 04:15:20 PM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1412867604866-23889.png) (http://youtu.be/HPbwlBOpW0w)
             http://youtu.be/HPbwlBOpW0w (http://youtu.be/HPbwlBOpW0w)
Just to clarify, once pinned to the Start Menu, a right click option also gives you the option to
unpin it from the start menu. The same goes for the task bar pin.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on October 09, 2014, 06:00:48 PM
Read THIS (http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2014/10/06/windows-10-spying/)

It is the most jaw dropping thing you will ever read about Windows 10. Talk about a MASSIVE invasion of ones privacy.
If that bother you, I suggest you never sign up to do any beta testing. Not even for avast!.
Sharing information of all types is a part of the beta testing process. Easy enough to avoid by simply no participating.
You wouldn't share your precious information but you also miss out on all the fun and excitement of being among the first
to try something brand new. :)
You can also find a further explanation about the so called "key Logger" claim at:
http://www.zdnet.com/windows-10-youve-got-questions-ive-got-answers-7000034462/ (http://www.zdnet.com/windows-10-youve-got-questions-ive-got-answers-7000034462/)
Good old Ed Bott, always the voice of reason. He's one of the few commenters/ reviewers I can stand.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on October 09, 2014, 06:02:52 PM
I think there already is too much on the taskbar. I removed the store and I would like to be able to remove the task view and search icons as well. Currently, you can't but I hope they add the ability in at some point.

Another quirk. In CCleaner, the OS is reported as Windows 8.1 Enterprise Preview. Something didn't get changed in the code.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Michael (alan1998) on October 09, 2014, 09:15:48 PM
Very True bob!

I'm not so much bothered by M$ watching me (actually, I could careless). But in the hours of my frustration, I didn't bother reading jackcrap from the install stuff, so I was unaware. It's the price I pay, I guess... Regardless, I know, M$ won't steal anything like banking info, or purposely watch you too see all of one's personal activites.

I will most likely dual boot anyways and only use 10 when I need it or want to test some more things. 10 is too unsafe without AV's or anything... Although, your best AV, is common sense, in my opinion

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Pondus on October 09, 2014, 10:32:09 PM
Windows 10's 'built-in keylogger'? Ha ha, says Microsoft – no, it just monitors your typing
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/10/07/windows_10_data_collection/

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on October 10, 2014, 06:11:52 AM
Since Avast does not work in Windows 10 yet, I can suggest temporarily using the free Bitdefender version. It does work and although you may not like it's lack of configuration options, it is certainly better then the built in Defender.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 10, 2014, 10:30:05 AM
Since Avast does not work in Windows 10 yet, I can suggest temporarily using the free Bitdefender version. It does work and although you may not like it's lack of configuration options, it is certainly better then the built in Defender.
I'll stick with Defender and wait for Avast to get things sorted out. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on October 10, 2014, 10:52:26 AM
Actually Defender is quite good against traditional viruses ( manual checking will deliver 3-4 updates a day )  and the areas it lacks in can be covered by MBAM Pro and the free version of MBAE.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 10, 2014, 10:54:55 AM
Actually Defender is quite good against traditional viruses ( manual checking will deliver 3-4 updates a day )  and the areas it lacks in can be covered by MBAM Pro and the free version of MBAE.
MBAM Pro slows down the entire system. I'm back to using it in on demand mode.
One of these days they'll get that part resolved.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on October 10, 2014, 11:01:08 AM
Yeah the pro version does have a bit of a hit on system performance, the new beta is marginally lighter I feel but it could still do with some more performance tuning to the MBAMService.exe which is still sitting on 60mb.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on October 10, 2014, 05:07:42 PM
Actually Defender is quite good against traditional viruses ( manual checking will deliver 3-4 updates a day )  and the areas it lacks in can be covered by MBAM Pro and the free version of MBAE.
Defender is very weak against new threats. Sure it's good for the known stuff, but every AV out there does that. MBAM Pro might be good for the new things but it's not very lightweight. MBAM free is just an after the fact removal tool.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on October 10, 2014, 05:45:38 PM
Isn't that what I've just said ;D

I'd still rather the pre-mentioned setup as opposed to using BD free, I found BD extremely taxing on system resources plus it seems that the product is going to be let wither and die...it gets VP updates but thats all and no product development in god knows how long ::)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 10, 2014, 08:29:20 PM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1412965470810-29847.png)
Any one else having this problem???


(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1412965724817-69408.png)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on October 11, 2014, 04:45:40 AM
Isn't that what I've just said ;D

I'd still rather the pre-mentioned setup as opposed to using BD free, I found BD extremely taxing on system resources plus it seems that the product is going to be let wither and die...it gets VP updates but thats all and no product development in god knows how long ::)
Really? I find BD free to be the lightest, least taxing AV I have ever used. It's the only one I have ever allowed to do automatic scans because even the deep scans take place fast and with no noticeable performance impact. It's true that there have been no product updates in over a year but why fix what ain't broke?

I only suggested it as a temporary solution until Avast becomes compatible and I will totally stand by my statement that it is better than Windows Defender.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 11, 2014, 03:37:46 PM
Please let's not go off on which AV is better but concentrate on Windows 10 News, Problems, additions,
new features, etc. Thanks :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on October 11, 2014, 10:20:18 PM
Please let's not go off on which AV is better but concentrate on Windows 10 News, Problems, additions,
new features, etc. Thanks :)
It is news since Avast is not compatible. Any alternative to Defender is a valid topic since any vendor's product gives better protection.  Avast's incompatibility could be considered as one of the problems with using the preview.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Michael (alan1998) on October 11, 2014, 10:31:33 PM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1412965470810-29847.png)
Any one else having this problem???


(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1412965724817-69408.png)

No, I didn't have that issue. Although, my system did freeze once in a while.

(Intel i7 3770, GTX 760, 16GB RAM, GTX 760 with the drivers installed)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on October 12, 2014, 07:09:18 PM
The function works fine for me and I have had no freezes.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Chris Thomas on October 16, 2014, 08:08:22 PM
Disable Keylogger (Microsoft recording what you do) in Windows 10


After installing windows 10 and before creating your account please open cmd.exe

with Shift + F10

use Sc.exe to delete the 2 services
run this:
Code:

sc delete dmwappushsvc
sc delete diagtrack

and deny system accessing the file AutoLogger-Diagtrack-Listener.etl with cacls

go to the dir
Code:

cd c:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Diagnosis\etlogs\autologger
echo "" > AutoLogger-Diagtrack-Listener.etl
cacls  AutoLogger-Diagtrack-Listener.etl  /d SYSTEM

If you have no problem with Microsoft collecting data and you use Win 10 in vmware. Then no need to do it.

Source : http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/57339-Guide-Way-to-Disable-Keylogger
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on October 18, 2014, 11:58:43 PM
I don't feel there's any need to do it at all.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 23, 2014, 03:02:02 PM
                Are you running the latest Build ???
New Update Build 9860 of Windows 10 Technical Preview Now Available for Download (http://www.askvg.com/new-update-build-of-windows-10-technical-preview-now-available-for-download/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AskVG+%28AskVG%29)
(I'm updating right now.)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on October 23, 2014, 09:03:19 PM
I got it too but it was a bit of a hassle. It failed miserably over my wireless connection. More than 2 hours stuck on downloading. When I plugged in, it downloaded in about 15 minutes but then took about 2 hours to completely install. Most settings were retained except for drivers. I had to go through the same process as the first time to get wireless working and the driver for the HP drive protection had to be reinstalled. I also had to enter a product key to get activated. Something I did not have to do when I first installed the preview. I am using the Enterprise version however.

For me, there aren't really any big changes that matter and I wish I could make that silly notifications icon go away. They also did not add the ability to remove the search and task view icons or add IE favorites to the Start Menu. Therefore, the biggest issues I had still remain and a new one is added.

I do have two strange issues however, when Windows is set to skip password entry and log in automatically, on the Welcome screen there are now 2 pictures of me. If I set it to require the password, there is just the one as it should be. The other thing is that when I tell the computer to restart, it automatically starts up Windows 10 and skips the screen to choose the OS. At first I thought that was only happening while in 10 but it also happened when I restarted from Windows 7. To get the OS choice screen, I have to do a full Shutdown and then a cold boot.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 23, 2014, 09:10:42 PM
Go tho msconfig and select 8.1 as the default, reboot and you'll see your boot options menu again.
I have the same problem with the dual pictures as you.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 25, 2014, 02:33:25 PM
A comparison between the latest release and the older one:
http://youtu.be/QBJPaYICbRw (http://youtu.be/QBJPaYICbRw)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on October 25, 2014, 06:29:24 PM
A comparison between the latest release and the older one:
http://youtu.be/QBJPaYICbRw (http://youtu.be/QBJPaYICbRw)
He highlights features I never use or will ever use. Ho hum.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 25, 2014, 09:22:37 PM
A comparison between the latest release and the older one:
http://youtu.be/QBJPaYICbRw (http://youtu.be/QBJPaYICbRw)
He highlights features I never use or will ever use. Ho hum.
I'm sure you aren't the only Windows 10 PR user. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on November 07, 2014, 03:09:33 PM

(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1415369046683-43482.png)If you don't use the Search and Task View Bar in windows 10,
Here's how to remove them:
http://www.askvg.com/how-to-remove-search-and-task-view-icons-from-windows-10-taskbar/ (http://www.askvg.com/how-to-remove-search-and-task-view-icons-from-windows-10-taskbar/)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on November 07, 2014, 06:36:59 PM
Nice. Now how to remove the silly Notifications icon
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on November 14, 2014, 12:03:37 PM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1415966301974-90778.png)
http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2014/11/12/new-build-available-to-the-windows-insider-program/ (http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2014/11/12/new-build-available-to-the-windows-insider-program/)


(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1415966561932-44918.png)

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on November 14, 2014, 05:55:19 PM
After reading about it, I might skip this new build. In fact, I may just delete the partition and drop out of the testing. I hardly ever boot into it anyway.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on November 14, 2014, 08:22:44 PM
After reading about it, I might skip this new build. In fact, I may just delete the partition and drop out of the testing. I hardly ever boot into it anyway.
You were never forced to install it in the first place. :) I personally like to know what's coming down the pike. :)
Keeping up with Windows 10 is one way of doing that.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on November 14, 2014, 09:25:31 PM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1416000223811-33359.png)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on November 29, 2014, 11:46:05 PM

(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1417297510473-81567.png) (http://youtu.be/Bnd6myHWgQM)
        http://youtu.be/Bnd6myHWgQM (http://youtu.be/Bnd6myHWgQM)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: polonus on November 29, 2014, 11:54:34 PM
Hi bob3160,

As always you are "a well-informed man" as you spread all of this latest knowledge.
I am amazed. How many avast users did you instruct to use the av solution properly?

Damian
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on November 30, 2014, 01:48:38 AM
Hi bob3160,

As always you are "a well-informed man" as you spread all of this latest knowledge.
I am amazed. How many avast users did you instruct to use the av solution properly?

Damian
I'm very close to 20,000. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on January 16, 2015, 11:58:33 PM

        (http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1421449072004-58709.png)
"Windows 10: The Next Chapter," Microsoft put up a page where people can access the webcast (http://news.microsoft.com/windows10story/) next week.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on January 21, 2015, 10:08:35 PM

(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1421874498738-70090.png)
Microsoft will offer free upgrades to Windows 10 (http://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-to-deliver-free-windows-10-upgrades/?tag=nl.e404&s_cid=e404&ttag=e404&ftag=CAD1acfa04) -- the next version of its operating system --
First for Windows 8.1 users and then for Windows 7 users, the company announced Wednesday.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: abruptum on January 21, 2015, 11:57:56 PM
Good news,but I'll stay with Windows 7 until the bitter end.
I just can't stand all that flatness.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Lisandro on January 22, 2015, 12:28:13 AM

(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1421874498738-70090.png)
Microsoft will offer free upgrades to Windows 10 (http://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-to-deliver-free-windows-10-upgrades/?tag=nl.e404&s_cid=e404&ttag=e404&ftag=CAD1acfa04) -- the next version of its operating system --
First for Windows 8.1 users and then for Windows 7 users, the company announced Wednesday.
Hurra!!!
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on January 22, 2015, 12:39:53 AM
Excellent,  ;D
Didn't see 'when' (Date) that free upgrade might be offered
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on January 22, 2015, 12:50:09 AM
Excellent,  ;D
Didn't see 'when' (Date) that free upgrade might be offered
You will have one year from the official release date of Windows 10 to convert your Windows 8 and Windows 7 free of charge.
The conversion or upgrade will first be made available for the Windows 8 platform and then followed for those using Windows 7.
Hope that helps answer your question.
( It was a very interesting webcast this morning and can now be seen recorded at the same link I had posted)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Coolmario88 on January 22, 2015, 04:20:33 AM
Does anybody know if Internet Explorer will be dead in windows 10 or just kept for compatibility?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Staticguy on January 22, 2015, 06:44:16 AM
What's up guys  ;D

Got a very excellent news for all of you. Windows 10 will be offered as a FREE UPGRADE to all users with Windows 7,8, and 8.1. It will be offered for free only for 1 year only. More details here http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/01/windows-10-free-for-all-windows-8-1-and-windows-7-users-for-first-year/

I hope Avast will be reading this and I know Avast Team will be fully prepared for the upgrade so Avast! Antivirus will be compatible for Windows 10.

Thanks to Microsoft for doing this for the very 1st time  :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Lisandro on January 22, 2015, 11:02:18 AM
I hope Avast will be reading this and I know Avast Team will be fully prepared for the upgrade so Avast! Antivirus will be compatible for Windows 10.
Do you have any doubt?
By the way, Avast is already running in Windows 10.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Staticguy on January 22, 2015, 12:27:16 PM
I hope Avast will be reading this and I know Avast Team will be fully prepared for the upgrade so Avast! Antivirus will be compatible for Windows 10.
Do you have any doubt?
By the way, Avast is already running in Windows 10.

Oh really! Avast runs on Windows 10. I didn't know! I was out on vacation during summer holidays. Must have missed it.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on January 22, 2015, 02:21:38 PM
What's up guys  ;D

Got a very excellent news for all of you. Windows 10 will be offered as a FREE UPGRADE to all users with Windows 7,8, and 8.1. It will be offered for free only for 1 year only. More details here http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/01/windows-10-free-for-all-windows-8-1-and-windows-7-users-for-first-year/ (http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/01/windows-10-free-for-all-windows-8-1-and-windows-7-users-for-first-year/)

I hope Avast will be reading this and I know Avast Team will be fully prepared for the upgrade so Avast! Antivirus will be compatible for Windows 10.

Thanks to Microsoft for doing this for the very 1st time  :)
Sometime one should read what's already posted before repeating what's already there. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on January 22, 2015, 02:23:27 PM
I hope Avast will be reading this and I know Avast Team will be fully prepared for the upgrade so Avast! Antivirus will be compatible for Windows 10.
Do you have any doubt?
By the way, Avast is already running in Windows 10.

Oh really! Avast runs on Windows 10. I didn't know! I was out on vacation during summer holidays. Must have missed it.

(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1417297510473-81567.png) (http://youtu.be/Bnd6myHWgQM)
        http://youtu.be/Bnd6myHWgQM (http://youtu.be/Bnd6myHWgQM)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Eddy on January 22, 2015, 02:29:39 PM
Users currently using Windows 7, Windows 8.1 or Windows Phone 8.1 will be allowed a free update to Windows 10 when it is released.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on January 22, 2015, 02:41:04 PM
Users currently using Windows 7, Windows 8.1 or Windows Phone 8.1 will be allowed a free update to Windows 10 when it is released.
Old news. :)

(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1421874498738-70090.png)
Microsoft will offer free upgrades to Windows 10 (http://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-to-deliver-free-windows-10-upgrades/?tag=nl.e404&s_cid=e404&ttag=e404&ftag=CAD1acfa04) -- the next version of its operating system --
First for Windows 8.1 users and then for Windows 7 users, the company announced Wednesday.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Eddy on January 22, 2015, 08:09:37 PM
Skype will come standard with Windows 10:
http://tinyurl.com/ncwlxew
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on January 22, 2015, 09:51:15 PM
I watched the conference and was extremely impressed with what Windows 10 is capable of. What I was most interested in was their statement that 10 would be  much better for gamers and they didn't disappoint. There is a game DVR with which you can record play from any game and save , share, or whatever else you want to do with it. It will also ship with the latest version of Direct X, DX 12 which is greatly improved in performance and capability over DX 11 and will not be made available to Windows 7 users. Owners of Xbox One will be able to stream their games to any device running Windows 10.

On the productivity side, Office will run on any Win 10 device, including phones, and there is a new piece of Hardware, the Surface Hub that will greatly facilitate on line and office meetings. Cortana is also fully integrated. Internet Explorer will still be a part of Windows 10 but there will be another browser option called Spartan which has been mentioned here before.

The most amazing thing is that there will be another new piece of hardware called the Holo Lens, a self contained headset computer. With it, you can make and view holographic images of anything and even more amazingly, save them and print them with a 3D printer.

Even though I won't use some of the new features, and probably won't buy the new hardware, I think Windows 10 is a huge leap forward for personal computing. It's no wonder they skipped the Windows 9 designation and went straight to 10. To me, this looks more like Windows 15 or at least, 12. I know I will be taking advantage of the free upgrade ASAP. (After making a system image of my 8.1 installation first of course. Just to be safe.)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: marywsnyder on January 22, 2015, 10:18:41 PM
Can someone make a screenshot from the menu? Is it the same menu as in Windows 8?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: essexboy on January 22, 2015, 10:20:39 PM
The windows development kit xbootmgr actually works and reduces the boot time for windows 10  ( albeit in my VM )
http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/140262-how-to-speed-up-boot-process-under-windows-vista-or-windows-7/

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on January 22, 2015, 10:55:57 PM
I'm going to try it on an actual install of Windows 10 version 9879 not a VM.
I know it worked in Windows 7 and Windows 8 :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Staticguy on January 23, 2015, 12:14:48 AM
I watched the conference and was extremely impressed with what Windows 10 is capable of. What I was most interested in was their statement that 10 would be  much better for gamers and they didn't disappoint. There is a game DVR with which you can record play from any game and save , share, or whatever else you want to do with it. It will also ship with the latest version of Direct X, DX 12 which is greatly improved in performance and capability over DX 11 and will not be made available to Windows 7 users. Owners of Xbox One will be able to stream their games to any device running Windows 10.

On the productivity side, Office will run on any Win 10 device, including phones, and there is a new piece of Hardware, the Surface Hub that will greatly facilitate on line and office meetings. Cortana is also fully integrated. Internet Explorer will still be a part of Windows 10 but there will be another browser option called Spartan which has been mentioned here before.

The most amazing thing is that there will be another new piece of hardware called the Holo Lens, a self contained headset computer. With it, you can make and view holographic images of anything and even more amazingly, save them and print them with a 3D printer.

Even though I won't use some of the new features, and probably won't buy the new hardware, I think Windows 10 is a huge leap forward for personal computing. It's no wonder they skipped the Windows 9 designation and went straight to 10. To me, this looks more like Windows 15 or at least, 12. I know I will be taking advantage of the free upgrade ASAP. (After making a system image of my 8.1 installation first of course. Just to be safe.)

Why the DX 12 won't be available to Windows 7 users even after it has been upgraded to Windows 10? Also about support, once Windows 7 gets upgraded to Windows 10, will Microsoft increase it's mainstream and extended support given that it has been upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 10. Windows 7 extended support will finish on January 14, 2020. Just curious to know about this. Thanks.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on January 23, 2015, 02:56:40 PM
The windows development kit xbootmgr actually works and reduces the boot time for windows 10  ( albeit in my VM )
http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/140262-how-to-speed-up-boot-process-under-windows-vista-or-windows-7/ (http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/140262-how-to-speed-up-boot-process-under-windows-vista-or-windows-7/)
I does make a difference in Windows 10.
Remember not to use a Third Party Defrag program once you've optimized Windows with this tool.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on January 23, 2015, 03:28:42 PM
The windows development kit xbootmgr actually works and reduces the boot time for windows 10  ( albeit in my VM )
http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/140262-how-to-speed-up-boot-process-under-windows-vista-or-windows-7/ (http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/140262-how-to-speed-up-boot-process-under-windows-vista-or-windows-7/)
I does make a difference in Windows 10.
Remember not to use a Third Party Defrag program once you've optimized Windows with this tool.
So what sort of boot times are we looking at? I'm already booting to a workable screen in 14 seconds with Samsung 840 pro ssd.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on January 23, 2015, 03:36:27 PM
The windows development kit xbootmgr actually works and reduces the boot time for windows 10  ( albeit in my VM )
http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/140262-how-to-speed-up-boot-process-under-windows-vista-or-windows-7/ (http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/140262-how-to-speed-up-boot-process-under-windows-vista-or-windows-7/)
I does make a difference in Windows 10.
Remember not to use a Third Party Defrag program once you've optimized Windows with this tool.
So what sort of boot times are we looking at? I'm already booting to a workable screen in 14 seconds with Samsung 840 pro ssd.
If you read the instructions, you would have noticed that this is not designed for systems that use an SSD drive. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on January 23, 2015, 03:41:25 PM
You caught me out! I didn't read it ;D oh well all my systems are running ssd's now so it's not for me, thanks :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on January 23, 2015, 07:04:45 PM

Don't panic! DirectX12 won't require a new graphics card after all
More information about DirextX12 (http://www.pcworld.com/article/2873545/dont-panic-directx12-wont-require-a-new-graphics-card-after-all.html)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on January 23, 2015, 09:34:53 PM
I watched the conference and was extremely impressed with what Windows 10 is capable of. What I was most interested in was their statement that 10 would be  much better for gamers and they didn't disappoint. There is a game DVR with which you can record play from any game and save , share, or whatever else you want to do with it. It will also ship with the latest version of Direct X, DX 12 which is greatly improved in performance and capability over DX 11 and will not be made available to Windows 7 users. Owners of Xbox One will be able to stream their games to any device running Windows 10.

On the productivity side, Office will run on any Win 10 device, including phones, and there is a new piece of Hardware, the Surface Hub that will greatly facilitate on line and office meetings. Cortana is also fully integrated. Internet Explorer will still be a part of Windows 10 but there will be another browser option called Spartan which has been mentioned here before.

The most amazing thing is that there will be another new piece of hardware called the Holo Lens, a self contained headset computer. With it, you can make and view holographic images of anything and even more amazingly, save them and print them with a 3D printer.

Even though I won't use some of the new features, and probably won't buy the new hardware, I think Windows 10 is a huge leap forward for personal computing. It's no wonder they skipped the Windows 9 designation and went straight to 10. To me, this looks more like Windows 15 or at least, 12. I know I will be taking advantage of the free upgrade ASAP. (After making a system image of my 8.1 installation first of course. Just to be safe.)

Why the DX 12 won't be available to Windows 7 users even after it has been upgraded to Windows 10? Also about support, once Windows 7 gets upgraded to Windows 10, will Microsoft increase it's mainstream and extended support given that it has been upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 10. Windows 7 extended support will finish on January 14, 2020. Just curious to know about this. Thanks.
I meant that those who don't do the upgrade and continue to use Win 7 will not get DX 12. It's included in 10 so of course you'll have it if you upgrade from 7. It may however be available to those who choose to stay with 8.1.

There is also the issue that most Win 7 machines will not have a graphics card that supports DX12 so that will have to be upgraded as well to take advantage of it.

The support cycle would also change to that of Windows 10 if you do the upgrade.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on January 23, 2015, 10:09:03 PM
Quote
There is also the issue that most Win 7 machines will not have a graphics card that supports DX12 so that will have to be upgraded as well to take advantage of it.
It might be wise to read the article in the link I supplied. You may be surprised what will work :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Eddy on January 23, 2015, 11:04:43 PM
http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/01/23/january-build-now-available-to-the-windows-insider-program/
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Cylac on January 24, 2015, 01:40:50 AM
has anybody testing Avast 2015 on the latest Windows 10 Pro Technical Preview build released today? (build: 9926)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on January 24, 2015, 03:33:51 AM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1422066744427-37052.png)
There's already an update once you do the install. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on January 24, 2015, 03:38:19 AM
has anybody testing Avast 2015 on the latest Windows 10 Pro Technical Preview build released today? (build: 9926)
The online installer which worked on the previous build apparently doesn't work on build 9926
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1422067022708-87710.png)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on January 24, 2015, 05:53:04 AM
Quote
There is also the issue that most Win 7 machines will not have a graphics card that supports DX12 so that will have to be upgraded as well to take advantage of it.
It might be wise to read the article in the link I supplied. You may be surprised what will work :)
The article supports exactly what I said and has nothing I didn't already know. Only the newer cards like the AMD GCN next ones and the Nvidia Fermi ones will support DX12.  Computers that were made for or were shipped with Windows 7 very likely will not have such recent cards unless they were upgraded. For AMD, only the R9 270 and above cards will support DX12. My laptop that was made in 2011 and has a first generation A8 APU will not run DX12.  The machine will have to be from the last couple of months of 2013 or later to have a chance at having a compatible graphics card unless, as I said, it has been upgraded by the user. Almost all Windows 7 machines were made earlier than that.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: digmor crusher on January 24, 2015, 06:42:57 AM
ok, so if your computer is older than 2013 should you update to Windows 10.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Staticguy on January 24, 2015, 08:29:47 AM
Quote
There is also the issue that most Win 7 machines will not have a graphics card that supports DX12 so that will have to be upgraded as well to take advantage of it.
It might be wise to read the article in the link I supplied. You may be surprised what will work :)
The article supports exactly what I said and has nothing I didn't already know. Only the newer cards like the AMD GCN next ones and the Nvidia Fermi ones will support DX12.  Computers that were made for or were shipped with Windows 7 very likely will not have such recent cards unless they were upgraded. For AMD, only the R9 270 and above cards will support DX12. My laptop that was made in 2011 and has a first generation A8 APU will not run DX12.  The machine will have to be from the last couple of months of 2013 or later to have a chance at having a compatible graphics card unless, as I said, it has been upgraded by the user. Almost all Windows 7 machines were made earlier than that.

My graphics card is Nvidia GeForce GT 630M and when new version of the graphics card driver is detected by Nvidia GeForce Experience I update it. So is DX12 supported for my graphics card? I bought my laptop on 2014 so I will be able to upgrade my Windows 7 to Windows 10 right?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on January 24, 2015, 01:32:05 PM
ok, so if your computer is older than 2013 should you update to Windows 10.
I have computers older than 5 years that are running windows 10.
Age has nothing to do with "should I upgrade".
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on January 24, 2015, 05:17:47 PM
(http://res2.windows.microsoft.com/resbox/en/windows/main/e631eaeb-66d5-46bd-9888-77b8e98e847a_15.png)
       Download Windows 10 Build 9926 ISO Files (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/preview-iso)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on January 24, 2015, 06:26:21 PM
Quote
There is also the issue that most Win 7 machines will not have a graphics card that supports DX12 so that will have to be upgraded as well to take advantage of it.
It might be wise to read the article in the link I supplied. You may be surprised what will work :)
The article supports exactly what I said and has nothing I didn't already know. Only the newer cards like the AMD GCN next ones and the Nvidia Fermi ones will support DX12.  Computers that were made for or were shipped with Windows 7 very likely will not have such recent cards unless they were upgraded. For AMD, only the R9 270 and above cards will support DX12. My laptop that was made in 2011 and has a first generation A8 APU will not run DX12.  The machine will have to be from the last couple of months of 2013 or later to have a chance at having a compatible graphics card unless, as I said, it has been upgraded by the user. Almost all Windows 7 machines were made earlier than that.

My graphics card is Nvidia GeForce GT 630M and when new version of the graphics card driver is detected by Nvidia GeForce Experience I update it. So is DX12 supported for my graphics card? I bought my laptop on 2014 so I will be able to upgrade my Windows 7 to Windows 10 right?
As Bob said, age has nothing to do with it as long as you're not expecting the graphics features of DX12. If you're satisfied with DX11 (and there are now rumors that some of the DX12 features will be able to be programmed by developers for DX11). In my opinion, given all of the new features and enhancements (DX is just one of them), it wouldn't make much sense not to take advantage of the free upgrade. If your computer runs Win 7, then it can definitely run 10. It's also a way to extend the service life of the machine. Those in the gaming community should definitely go to 10.

As for your card, the GT 630m belongs to the Fermi class and this is a quote from Nvidia;
Quote
NVIDIA will support the DX12 API on all the DX11-class GPUs it has shipped; these belong to the Fermi, Kepler and Maxwell architectural designs
.

Therefore it should support some but maybe not all of the DX12 enhancements.
There is also this article to consider; http://www.polygon.com/2015/1/22/7874793/directx-12-wont-require-a-new-graphics-card-after-all
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Staticguy on January 24, 2015, 09:16:42 PM
@bob3160 and @Dch48: Thanks for your answers about my queries. I am not satisfied about my computer to upgrade to Windows 10. As for my graphics card may not support all features of DX12 as Dch48 mentioned am also satisfied. As long as my upgrade to Windows 10 goes I am also happy that it will extend my laptop lifecycle  :D

As for our desktop computer goes. It is also Windows 7 and it got AMD Radeon HD 7400 Series and will it also support some/all features of DX12? I don't think I will upgrade our desktop computer, because it has got most of my dad's work and programs that he uses during weekends and also he remotely access his office desktop via our home desktop for his office work. Also I don't know if/when his programs will be compatible with Windows 10?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on January 24, 2015, 10:10:19 PM
Comparability has never been a problem. N ot when updating to Windows 8 and not going to Windows 10.
(At the moment, Avast seems to be one casualty in the latest Win 10 version.  :'(  )
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Staticguy on January 24, 2015, 10:27:58 PM
Ok thanks. For now, I will be looking into upgrading my Windows 7 laptop to Windows 10, because I am the only guy using my laptop and I know what's inside lol. I also used Windows 8 Upgrade Assistant and it only needs few minor things to sort out which I can do it myself. I am pretty sure when Windows 10 Upgrade Assistant comes out the results will be similar to the results for Windows 8 Upgrade Assistant. I won't upgrade our Windows 7 desktop to Windows 10 as previously stated
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on January 24, 2015, 11:29:53 PM
Ok thanks. For now, I will be looking into upgrading my Windows 7 laptop to Windows 10, because I am the only guy using my laptop and I know what's inside lol. I also used Windows 8 Upgrade Assistant and it only needs few minor things to sort out which I can do it myself. I am pretty sure when Windows 10 Upgrade Assistant comes out the results will be similar to the results for Windows 8 Upgrade Assistant. I won't upgrade our Windows 7 desktop to Windows 10 as previously stated
Remember that the current Windows 10 is still early pre-release. Converting from Windows 8 or any other OS isn't the right thing to do.
I dual-boot Windows 8.1 as the main (default) OS and Windows 10 as a second choice during boot up. :)

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: essexboy on January 24, 2015, 11:33:43 PM
I am becoming used to the latest version of 10 now, I also could not get Avast to install this time as windows blocked it
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on January 24, 2015, 11:38:17 PM
I updated my VMWare Windows 10 today and the only issue is that its not fitting fullscreen completely, its fitting in from the height not
from the width, but its completely usable.

Installed some standard software but no AV on it and no issues.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on January 24, 2015, 11:44:01 PM
I am becoming used to the latest version of 10 now, I also could not get Avast to install this time as windows blocked it
It actually removes Avast during the update process.  :'(  Any attempt to install it afterwards brings the results I posted earlier.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on January 25, 2015, 12:15:06 AM
                Having Fun with Cortana
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1422141213532-2668.png) (http://youtu.be/bOzqL4qUlVM)
          http://youtu.be/bOzqL4qUlVM (http://youtu.be/bOzqL4qUlVM)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: essexboy on January 25, 2015, 01:01:26 PM
It appears that Cortana is US only at the moment
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on January 25, 2015, 01:55:21 PM
It appears that Cortana is US only at the moment
Move :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: essexboy on January 25, 2015, 02:03:10 PM
:)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on January 25, 2015, 09:15:43 PM
                Having Fun with Cortana
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1422141213532-2668.png) (http://youtu.be/bOzqL4qUlVM)
          http://youtu.be/bOzqL4qUlVM (http://youtu.be/bOzqL4qUlVM)
Watch out Bob, your wife might get the wrong idea and you'll have to tell her it's Jake, from State Farm.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on January 25, 2015, 09:22:56 PM
                Having Fun with Cortana
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1422141213532-2668.png) (http://youtu.be/bOzqL4qUlVM)
          http://youtu.be/bOzqL4qUlVM (http://youtu.be/bOzqL4qUlVM)
Watch out Bob, your wife might get the wrong idea and you'll have to tell her it's Jake, from State Farm.
Alice saw the video before I uploaded it to YouTube so I'm safe for now. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Staticguy on January 25, 2015, 11:29:11 PM
hahahahahahahahaha  ;D. I can't wait to use Cortana  ;D
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Cylac on January 29, 2015, 03:34:51 AM
has anybody testing Avast 2015 on the latest Windows 10 Pro Technical Preview build released today? (build: 9926)
The online installer which worked on the previous build apparently doesn't work on build 9926
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1422067022708-87710.png)
bummer :(
Hopefully there will be an updated version that'll work for us again!

thanks for the info
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Asyn on January 29, 2015, 06:15:41 AM
Hi guys, see: https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=165329.msg1177718#msg1177718
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on January 29, 2015, 03:28:48 PM

(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1422541390502-55193.png)
How to enable the Spartan browser's speedy new Edge engine in Windows 10 today (http://www.pcworld.com/article/2875279/how-to-enable-the-spartan-browsers-speedy-new-edge-engine-in-windows-10-today.html#tk.nl_pwr)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Pondus on January 30, 2015, 11:36:48 AM
Windows 10 Technical Preview Update Rollup: January 27, 2015
http://support2.microsoft.com/kb/3035129/en-us

Quote
Improvements

This update rollup includes a collection of improvements:
Reliability improvements for virtual machine live migrations
Reliability improvements to prevent some system crashes in SettingsSyncHost.exe
Reliability improvements to prevent possible data corruption
Increased power efficiency to extend battery life
A fix for an issue that prevents the new Store (Beta) from appearing on the taskbar
A fix for an issue that could cause users to remain at the "Please Wait" screen when attempting to sign in with a Smart Card connected
A fix for an issue that could cause virtual machines (VMs) to lose connectivity to virtual hard drives (VHDs)
A fix for an issue that could cause error 0x8E5E05E2 when installing apps
A fix for an issue that could cause a delay when opening a new tab in Internet Explorer
A fix for an issue that could cause the system to fail to resume from sleep when connected to multiple monitors with some graphics drivers
A fix for an issue that could cause the Start Menu to be improperly registered and fail to launch
A fix for an issue that prevents launching XBOX Live enabled games that require sign-in, and would incorrectly result in the message, "To use this app, you need to sign in with the Microsoft account that was used to download it."
A fix for an issue that could present the user with the incorrect End-User License Agreement (EULA) during upgrade


Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on January 30, 2015, 02:00:35 PM
If you're on the Fast update schedule for new Builds, you may have gotten this: error code (0x80246017)

Here's the explanation:
"This error is caused by a recent update (KB3035129) from Jan, 29.
This update exposed to users an interface that is not supposed to be shown and offered builds
that are not intended for those users, but for Microsoft employees only."

A fix to correct this error and hide this interface is on its way, so you should not change your update settings
and do not try to download any builds-that will always fail and with the same error code!
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on January 30, 2015, 04:25:56 PM

Collection of Windows 10 Hidden Secret Registry Tweaks (http://www.askvg.com/collection-of-windows-10-hidden-secret-registry-tweaks/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AskVG+%28AskVG%29)
(Thanks to AskVG)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on February 05, 2015, 04:35:07 PM
Download Free Previews of Office Touch Apps for Windows 10 (http://www.askvg.com/download-free-previews-of-office-apps-for-windows-10/)
I used the direct links in the run command (Windows Key and R) to download and install the apps.



ms-windows-store2://PDP?productId=9wzdncrfjb9s      - Word
ms-windows-store2://PDP?productId=9wzdncrfjbh3      - Excell
ms-windows-store2://PDP?productId=9wzdncrfjb5q      - Power Point
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on February 05, 2015, 04:58:01 PM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1423151830574-62335.png)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on February 05, 2015, 07:17:14 PM
9926 is still the latest Build available in germany :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on February 05, 2015, 09:05:59 PM
9926 is still the latest Build available in germany :)
Same here. The reference to the other build is a Windows 10 error explained in an earlier post. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on February 05, 2015, 09:12:25 PM
Did someone notice already that Windows Update is now also updating drivers? :)

http://prntscr.com/61hni4
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on February 07, 2015, 07:14:57 PM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1423332716431-17144.png) (http://youtu.be/JUJO8gn7E94)   
http://youtu.be/JUJO8gn7E94 (http://youtu.be/JUJO8gn7E94)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on February 12, 2015, 01:44:05 PM

GodMode also works in Windows 10
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1423744475891-41948.png)

Create a new folder then rename that folder with the following:
Windows10 GodMode.{ED7BA470-8E54-465E-825C-99712043E01C}

Once that's done you'll see the following:
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1423745350667-94848.png)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Pondus on February 13, 2015, 04:51:45 PM
Download Windows 10 Technical Preview for phones   

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/preview-download-phone

these are the phones that can be used

* Lumia 630
* Lumia 635
* Lumia 636
* Lumia 638
* Lumia 730
* Lumia 830

Windows 10 for Phones    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckzhX1O6Lto


Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Pondus on February 17, 2015, 07:06:47 PM
Windows 10 for Xbox
http://www.theverge.com/2015/2/17/8050743/microsoft-xbox-one-apps-sdk-plans
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Pondus on February 17, 2015, 07:11:06 PM
Bringing Windows 10 Modern UI and Desktop together
http://www.neowin.net/news/bringing-windows-10-modern-ui-and-desktop-together-this-concept-nails-it
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on February 25, 2015, 11:40:43 PM

(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1424903682485-22305.png)
Classic Shell on Windows 10 Preview Build 9926 (http://youtu.be/WBTZ5dTXVss)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on March 01, 2015, 12:54:47 PM

(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1424903682485-22305.png)
Classic Shell on Windows 10 Preview Build 9926 (http://youtu.be/WBTZ5dTXVss)
Yep, I'll be sticking with Classic Shell myself. I was wondering if a new version would be needed.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on March 14, 2015, 04:26:13 PM
Windows 10 Build 10036 has been leaked onto the internet

http://www.winbeta.org/news/windows-10-build-10036-has-leaked-internet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=telU3Nzn_6g
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Asyn on March 18, 2015, 09:39:48 AM
Windows 10 Launching This Summer in 190 Countries and 111 Languages
http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/03/17/windows-10-launching-this-summer-in-190-countries-and-111-languages/
http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/03/17/making-windows-10-more-personal-and-more-secure-with-windows-hello/
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Staticguy on March 18, 2015, 11:18:02 AM
Updating updates for Windows 10 via multiple sources other than Microsoft Update. Multiple sources as in P2P capability i.e.  to download updates for the operating system from other PCs on your own internal network or from PCs either on your network or over the Internet.

http://www.cnet.com/news/windows-10-download-updates-from-multiple-sources/
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: abruptum on March 18, 2015, 11:52:17 AM
Microsoft tackles China piracy with free upgrade to Windows 10

  http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/18/us-microsoft-china-idUSKBN0ME06A20150318
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on March 18, 2015, 03:41:39 PM
Windows 10 Build 10036 has been leaked onto the internet

http://www.winbeta.org/news/windows-10-build-10036-has-leaked-internet (http://www.winbeta.org/news/windows-10-build-10036-has-leaked-internet)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=telU3Nzn_6g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=telU3Nzn_6g)
Unfortunately "leaked" isn't the same as available. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on March 19, 2015, 02:22:32 PM
Microsoft has released a new update Build 10041 (also referred as Technical Preview 3) of Windows 10 to public.
http://www.askvg.com/new-update-build-of-windows-10-technical-preview-now-available-for-download/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AskVG+%28AskVG%29 (http://www.askvg.com/new-update-build-of-windows-10-technical-preview-now-available-for-download/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AskVG+%28AskVG%29)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on March 19, 2015, 04:37:57 PM
Windows 10 will be a free upgrade for all users worldwide (http://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10-to-launch-this-summer-with-free-upgrades-for-pirated-copies/)
This even applies to pirated copies of Windows 7 and 8.1
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on March 19, 2015, 04:41:57 PM
Windows 10 will be a free upgrade for all users worldwide (http://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10-to-launch-this-summer-with-free-upgrades-for-pirated-copies/)
This even applies to pirated copies of Windows 7 and 8.1
That surprised me at first but after some thought, it makes a lot of sense. The more people using Win 10, the more that will be tempted by the Windows Store and all the apps. It will open up a new market. Especially in China where the large majority of all software, not just Windows, is pirated.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on March 19, 2015, 04:50:17 PM
It should also eliminate much of the malware installed when using pirated software. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on March 19, 2015, 05:01:25 PM
Well seehow good the security of Windows 10 really is, That Microsoft put Defender back in the task bar might be an indication that
Microsoft might have planned something for it. :)

Which i would really appreciate cause 18 percent of people use Defender/MSE, followed right by Avast (OPSWAT)

https://www.opswat.com/resources/reports/antivirus-and-compromised-device-january-2015
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on March 20, 2015, 12:51:46 AM
I installed the latest build in a dual boot with 8.1 and it works okay with a few bugs. The Mail app would not install until I did a powershell fix I found through google.  I also had to give my Win 8.1 partition a drive letter through Disk Management before it would be recognized.

All the drivers installed by Windows seem to be working fine except that one is from 2010. It's for the printer/scanner but it works fine.
Title: Free upgrade for Pirates might have a catch
Post by: Dch48 on March 20, 2015, 03:32:53 PM
Take a look at this article:
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/pirates-beware-free-windows-10-upgrade-105058412.html
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on March 20, 2015, 04:02:05 PM
The update apprears to have a problem with my audio on my Dell Inspiron 17.
I can plug in an external speaker or use a headset but it can't find or update the dell audio drivers.  :'(
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on March 21, 2015, 10:38:16 PM
The Audio issues seem to be a knowm bug in this build :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on March 21, 2015, 10:57:48 PM
The Audio issues seem to be a knowm bug in this build :)
So I noticed. Good thing I didn't hurry and try a clean install. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on March 21, 2015, 11:01:54 PM
I just got the update here in germany, lets see how it works out. :)

Lets hope Avast is compatible
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on March 21, 2015, 11:21:09 PM
I just got the update here in germany, lets see how it works out. :)

Lets hope Avast is compatible
No problems with Avast. Just no sound unless I plug in an external speaker or headsets. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on March 22, 2015, 04:35:37 PM
The Audio issues seem to be a knowm bug in this build :)
Yeah I saw that. I got lucky and my integrated Realtek sound worked fine and even received an updated driver the next day. All of my drivers were installed and the new Win 10 Radeon driver actually gave me significantly better graphics performance in games than the latest driver release for 8.1.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on March 22, 2015, 05:03:49 PM
The graphics improvement is also caused by DirectX 12 which has much better graphics performance. :)

I will definitely use Windows 10 when its out, im also planning on getting a much better computer next year most likely.

How about this one?: http://www.hitech-gamer.com/Ultimate-Gamer-PC/GAMER-PC-ULTIMATE-SNAKE-EATER-V4.html
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on March 22, 2015, 09:07:57 PM
Nice rig but a little pricey to me. That's over 1800 US dollars. I won't spend more than 1000. The one I game with now cost $988 including the 23" monitor.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on March 25, 2015, 01:51:36 PM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1427287709505-66455.png)
Dear Avast, can you please do something to stop this message from Microsoft ???
Avast has my back I don't need to be reminded that Defender has been turned off.
Thanks :)



Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on March 25, 2015, 02:10:53 PM
@bob3160: Go to task manager>Autostart and disable Windows Defender Graphical User Interface, that will stop the popup window for now. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on March 25, 2015, 02:27:01 PM
@bob3160: Go to task manager>Autostart and disable Windows Defender Graphical User Interface, that will stop the popup window for now. :)
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1427289971893-73764.png)
Unfortunately I can't disable what isn't enabled in the first place. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on March 25, 2015, 02:32:14 PM
Well i do not get these popups and i disabled it when i could disable it :)

Thats a bit weird.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on March 25, 2015, 11:44:43 PM
Well i do not get these popups and i disabled it when i could disable it :)

Thats a bit weird.
Digging deeper into the settings, there is a setting under Action Center Notifications for Antivirus.
Unchecking that box turned off the notification about Windows Defender.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on March 27, 2015, 03:03:21 PM
You can now download Build 10041 ISO files to create DVD's or burn to a bootable USB
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/preview-iso-update-1503 (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/preview-iso-update-1503)
(You'll need ti sign into your Windows Insider Account.)


Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on March 31, 2015, 03:51:14 PM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1427809629240-4694.png)
New Build available. (http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/03/30/windows-10-technical-preview-build-10049-now-available/)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on March 31, 2015, 07:00:45 PM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1427821166468-47934.png)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: essexboy on March 31, 2015, 09:39:19 PM
Installed and now trying out the Spartan browser :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on March 31, 2015, 10:32:29 PM
No issues with Avast Premier so far.

I really like Spartan, but its still quite buggy.


Microsoft should implement an option to take over Bookmarks, etc. from Chrome or Firefox. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on March 31, 2015, 11:39:48 PM
No issues with Avast Premier so far.

I really like Spartan, but its still quite buggy.


Microsoft should implement an option to take over Bookmarks, etc. from Chrome or Firefox. :)
Agree with the importing of favorites and settings.
I feel Spartan is still a very basic browser and still needs quite a bit of work to get me to make it the default.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on April 01, 2015, 01:50:54 PM
A picture is worth 1000 words. :)
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1427889426592-26428.png)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on April 04, 2015, 12:42:28 AM
I installed build 10049 on my second hard drive. It has the same bug as 10041 where the Mail app does not install correctly. Everything else seems fine. I tried out Spartan and I liked it. It really is spartan right now since a lot of the settings are not present yet. Things like tracking protection lists, search providers, and most of the internet options. It does work quite well though on every site I tried. I still like the appearance of IE 11 better though so I'm not sure which I will use as my default when Win 10 launches. I installed Classic Shell 4.2 and disabled Cortana and the search box.

I really only want Win 10 now for the increased gaming performance that comes with DX 12 and the new drivers supporting it. Even in DX 11 games, I'm already seeing a 10-15% increase in frames per second. Windows 10 promises to be revolutionary for gamers.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Staticguy on April 04, 2015, 11:24:13 AM
Awesome selfie bob3160  :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on April 04, 2015, 03:19:38 PM
Awesome selfie bob3160  :)
Reflection. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Lisandro on April 04, 2015, 04:24:38 PM
Awesome selfie bob3160  :)
Reflection. :)
We can't see the eyes... Is really Bob? ;D
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Asyn on April 04, 2015, 04:53:24 PM
We can't see the eyes... Is really Bob? ;D
As Bob is a busy man, probably just a stand-in. ;D ;)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on April 04, 2015, 05:06:42 PM
We can't see the eyes... Is really Bob? ;D
As Bob is a busy man, probably just a stand-in. ;D ;)
I actually send the double out to work while I stay home. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Asyn on April 04, 2015, 05:10:27 PM
We can't see the eyes... Is really Bob? ;D
As Bob is a busy man, probably just a stand-in. ;D ;)
I actually send the double lout to work while I stay home. :)
Smart move Bob. 8) ;)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on April 07, 2015, 08:03:12 PM
Update for Windows 8.1 and 7 installs the downloader for Win 10.

A Windows update classed as recommended silently installs the files needed to upgrade to Windows 10

http://www.myce.com/news/windows-update-silently-installs-windows-10-downloader-75647/

I checked my system and the new folder is present.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on April 08, 2015, 04:33:57 PM
With Windows 10 not yet release, there's already talk about the next OS or update to Windows 10 - Redstone (http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsofts-redstone-an-update-to-windows-10-due-in-2016/)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on April 23, 2015, 08:18:11 PM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1429812717721-79179.png)
This is just one of the changes in the latest release:
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1429813064090-40200.png)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on April 23, 2015, 08:30:24 PM
TThe styles and colours are now matching all over the system.

But thanks for reminding me of this update, im still downloading it :(

Crappy internet
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Michael (alan1998) on April 23, 2015, 09:48:02 PM
With Windows 10 not yet release, there's already talk about the next OS or update to Windows 10 - Redstone (http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsofts-redstone-an-update-to-windows-10-due-in-2016/)

Haha, that's sad M$ is using Minecraft Terms now. Looking forward to the Windows 10 update
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on April 24, 2015, 11:26:17 PM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1429812717721-79179.png)
This is just one of the changes in the latest release:
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1429813064090-40200.png)
I didn't see that part in 10061. Where is it?

I don't like that the taskbar is black and the only way to change it is not that easy. Right clicking the desktop and choosing Personalize gives you all the options for changing colors but they're broken and don't do anything. You have to go through the Settings app and there you only find preset colors that are not customizeable.

They claim that their Start Menu is resizeable. It isn't in the way one would expect. There is a two headed arrow in the upper right corner but you can not use it to drag the menu to a size you want. You just click it and the menu goes full screen. Those are the options, default size or full screen. This is not acceptable but then I use Classic Shell.

Even Classic Shell is broken in 10061 in that if you choose to show the Metro apps in the menu, they don't show up. There is text that says Apps but clicking on it does nothing. Even the Apps folder in All Programs does not open. I reported this to Classic Shell and they confirmed that it is broken in 10061 but they won't fix anything until a closer to release build of Win 10 is offered.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on April 25, 2015, 01:26:57 PM
My Build 10061 download failed seconds before it finished and now i do not get the stupid update listed anymore.............

Might have to restore a backup to get it back working.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on April 25, 2015, 03:31:32 PM
@ Dch48,
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1429968595365-20155.png)
It's actually not new. Just new to me since I didn't see this before. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on April 25, 2015, 06:24:13 PM
Might be able to finally update my system :D
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on April 25, 2015, 09:06:12 PM
Might be able to finally update my system :D
Always very time consuming.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on April 25, 2015, 09:08:39 PM
@ Dch48,
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1429968595365-20155.png)
It's actually not new. Just new to me since I didn't see this before. :-)
Yeah, I found it. It's at the bottom of the Notifications window when you click the icon in the system tray.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on April 25, 2015, 09:10:15 PM
@ Dch48,
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1429968595365-20155.png)
It's actually not new. Just new to me since I didn't see this before. :-)
Yeah, I found it. It's at the bottom of the Notifications window when you click the icon in the system tray.

Took some time for you to find it if you dont know the changelog :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on April 25, 2015, 09:12:52 PM
Might be able to finally update my system :D
Always very time consuming.
Its not time consuming, well on my internet sadly yes, but the last try to update failed and after that i didnt get the new build as update again.
Soi had to restore a 1 month old backup, remove junk and broken programs, clean up the system, totally i removed 60 GB and then
get to a LAN Cable and download the build again.

Annoying.

And i do not run any AV right now, i will reinstall Avast when the update is done, the version after the backup was outdated
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on April 26, 2015, 06:20:16 AM
It takes about 45 minutes for a new build to be downloaded and installed for me and I'm on a 60meg cable connection.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Coolmario88 on April 26, 2015, 08:19:11 AM
It would probably take me a while to download windows 10.. I was on a 1mbps DSl connection.. Now i am on 10mbps cable :D
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on April 26, 2015, 11:13:29 AM
I have like 4 Meg download and 1 Meg Upload max here :(
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on April 26, 2015, 06:43:52 PM
I have like 4 Meg download and 1 Meg Upload max here :(
It isn't the download that takes the time, it's the actual installation that takes a while to complete.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Staticguy on April 27, 2015, 01:05:31 PM
Free Windows 10 is not an upgrade … it's Marketing

http://www.computerworld.com/article/2914993/microsoft-windows/free-windows-10-is-inoti-an-upgrade-its-marketing.html
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on April 27, 2015, 02:13:11 PM
Free Windows 10 is not an upgrade … it's Marketing

http://www.computerworld.com/article/2914993/microsoft-windows/free-windows-10-is-inoti-an-upgrade-its-marketing.html (http://www.computerworld.com/article/2914993/microsoft-windows/free-windows-10-is-inoti-an-upgrade-its-marketing.html)
All that means is a different way that Microsoft can treat the free upgrade when it comes to filing their expense in their taxes.
For the consumer it changes nothing. If you're using Windows 7, and up, you can get a free upgrade to Windows 10 provided you
upgrade within one year from the release of Windows 10.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on April 27, 2015, 08:29:13 PM
Free Windows 10 is not an upgrade … it's Marketing

http://www.computerworld.com/article/2914993/microsoft-windows/free-windows-10-is-inoti-an-upgrade-its-marketing.html
It's marketing for Microsoft in terms of how revenue is reported. For the end user, Windows 10 is a significant upgrade, especially from 7.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Coolmario88 on April 30, 2015, 05:39:24 AM
Should my PC be able to handle windows 10 if it can handle 8.1?
MY PC SPECS
Intel Pentium B960,
Intel HD Graphics,
4GB DDR3 Memory,
500GB HDD
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Asyn on April 30, 2015, 05:40:08 AM
Should my PC be able to handle windows 10 if it can handle 8.1?
Yes.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on April 30, 2015, 05:59:52 AM
Should my PC be able to handle windows 10 if it can handle 8.1?
MY PC SPECS
Intel Pentium B960,
Intel HD Graphics,
4GB DDR3 Memory,
500GB HDD
Yes, if it can run 8.1, or even 7, it will be fine with 10.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Coolmario88 on April 30, 2015, 06:07:24 AM
Should my PC be able to handle windows 10 if it can handle 8.1?
MY PC SPECS
Intel Pentium B960,
Intel HD Graphics,
4GB DDR3 Memory,
500GB HDD
Yes, if it can run 8.1, or even 7, it will be fine with 10.
that is great to know! Its good to know that it can run windows 10 if it can run 8.1 or 7
Thanks :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Asyn on April 30, 2015, 06:12:05 AM
You're welcome.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on April 30, 2015, 04:27:52 PM
Should my PC be able to handle windows 10 if it can handle 8.1?
MY PC SPECS
Intel Pentium B960,
Intel HD Graphics,
4GB DDR3 Memory,
500GB HDD
Yes, if it can run 8.1, or even 7, it will be fine with 10.
A slight correction:
I have a Dell Mini that's running Windows 8.1 but can't run Windows 10 because it only has 1 gig of ram and can't be upgraded.
Windows 10 min Ram requirement is 2 gig for 64 bit systems.  :'(
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on April 30, 2015, 08:40:48 PM
                          (http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1430419049547-12708.png)
Download Windows 10 Insider (Technical) Preview Build 10074 Offline ISO Files (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/preview-iso)
If you need it, Product key: 6P99N-YF42M-TPGBG-9VMJP-YKHCF or
NKJFK-GPHP7-G8C3J-P6JXR-HQRJR
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on May 01, 2015, 12:02:01 AM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1430431071393-21709.png)
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1430431184687-9111.png)
When Windows 10 gets released, the new Browser will be called Windows Edge.
http://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-edge-unveiled (http://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-edge-unveiled)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on May 05, 2015, 10:36:20 PM
I discovered today when trying to use my Yahoo Fantasy Baseball page in Spartan that I was unable to change my roster for the day or to see current results in action. The site uses Flash for those things and it seems that Spartan does not support it. If Flash support is not enabled in the final version of Edge, that will be a deal breaker for me and I will continue to use IE as my default browser.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: mchain on May 08, 2015, 09:57:41 PM
Windows 10 To Be 'Last Version Of Windows'
http://www.forbes.com/sites/antonyleather/2015/05/08/windows-10-to-be-last-version-of-windows/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/antonyleather/2015/05/08/windows-10-to-be-last-version-of-windows/)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Pondus on May 09, 2015, 09:14:04 AM
Why Microsoft is calling Windows 10 'the last version of Windows'
www.theverge.com/2015/5/7/8568473/windows-10-last-version-of-windows

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on May 09, 2015, 02:47:04 PM
Next Generation Malware Detection with Windows Defender

http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Ignite/2015/BRK2327
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on May 09, 2015, 04:00:15 PM
Next Generation Malware Detection with Windows Defender

http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Ignite/2015/BRK2327 (http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Ignite/2015/BRK2327)
I believe this is what Avast is already doing utilizing NG. ???
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on May 09, 2015, 04:21:31 PM
Might be the case :) I cant wait for Avast 2016, in case i still need it if i see what MS is doing with Defender

But Microsoft can put these sensors and functions much deeper into Windows than any AV Vendor.

And Microsoft knows malware the best too. I will surely test the new Defender out if i can get a VM up on a new laptop
or spare machine, since my laptop decided to die last weekend............
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on May 09, 2015, 05:01:42 PM
Might be the case :) I cant wait for Avast 2016, in case i still need it if i see what MS is doing with Defender

But Microsoft can put these sensors and functions much deeper into Windows than any AV Vendor.

And Microsoft knows malware the best too. I will surely test the new Defender out if i can get a VM up on a new laptop
or spare machine, since my laptop decided to die last weekend............
I'm just instilling it on a computer that used to run Vista but had problems and needed to be formatted.
Intel Centrino vPro 2 gig of ram 100 TB HD Laptop
 
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on May 09, 2015, 05:17:14 PM
I dont know if all the protection is in yet, but i dont think so, its all work in progress still

100 TB Harddrive, isnt that a bit much :D?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on May 09, 2015, 05:34:47 PM


100 TB Harddrive, isnt that a bit much :D?

Not for Bob!  ;D ;)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on May 09, 2015, 05:47:21 PM
This isn't a new computer. It's starting to show it's age just like me.....
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on May 09, 2015, 06:22:49 PM
You get what you pay for. :)
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1431188276846-14316.png)
I didn't pay for this one or it's mate.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: mchain on May 13, 2015, 08:19:59 AM
'Free' Windows 10 Has High Cost To Windows 7 And Windows 8 Users
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/05/12/free-windows-10-has-high-cost/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/05/12/free-windows-10-has-high-cost/)
Might be all speculation at best. Only time will tell.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on May 13, 2015, 10:39:49 PM
'Free' Windows 10 Has High Cost To Windows 7 And Windows 8 Users
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/05/12/free-windows-10-has-high-cost/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/05/12/free-windows-10-has-high-cost/)
Might be all speculation at best. Only time will tell.
Pure speculation. There has been no indication anywhere that Windows is going to become subscription based. I have no idea where they're getting that from and they provide nothing to support the notion. You'll have to pay for it if you don't take advantage of the free upgrade within a year, and you will pay for it on any new computers you purchase or build but that's all that has been confirmed so far.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on May 13, 2015, 10:41:12 PM
'Free' Windows 10 Has High Cost To Windows 7 And Windows 8 Users
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/05/12/free-windows-10-has-high-cost/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/05/12/free-windows-10-has-high-cost/)
Might be all speculation at best. Only time will tell.

As soon as I read the article about W10 being the 'last Windows Version'(paraphrased) I thought immediately that a "yearly paid subscription" is coming in the wind.
That wouldn't surprise me at all.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on May 13, 2015, 10:45:25 PM
'Free' Windows 10 Has High Cost To Windows 7 And Windows 8 Users
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/05/12/free-windows-10-has-high-cost/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/05/12/free-windows-10-has-high-cost/)
Might be all speculation at best. Only time will tell.

As soon as I read the article about W10 being the 'last Windows Version'(paraphrased) I thought immediately that a "yearly paid subscription" is coming in the wind.
That wouldn't surprise me at all.
I did not have that reaction at all. It simply meant to me that you would get free updates for your existing machine but would have to pay for it on new ones. Anything else would be pure inference.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on May 13, 2015, 10:47:22 PM
'Free' Windows 10 Has High Cost To Windows 7 And Windows 8 Users
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/05/12/free-windows-10-has-high-cost/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/05/12/free-windows-10-has-high-cost/)
Might be all speculation at best. Only time will tell.

As soon as I read the article about W10 being the 'last Windows Version'(paraphrased) I thought immediately that a "yearly paid subscription" is coming in the wind.
That wouldn't surprise me at all.
It is happening to more and more software. The OS is nothing more than a large and complex program.
It makes sense that it will eventually be treated like all other software programs.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on May 13, 2015, 10:57:45 PM
'Free' Windows 10 Has High Cost To Windows 7 And Windows 8 Users
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/05/12/free-windows-10-has-high-cost/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/05/12/free-windows-10-has-high-cost/)
Might be all speculation at best. Only time will tell.

As soon as I read the article about W10 being the 'last Windows Version'(paraphrased) I thought immediately that a "yearly paid subscription" is coming in the wind.
That wouldn't surprise me at all.
It is happening to more and more software. The OS is nothing more than a large and complex program.
It makes sense that it will eventually be treated like all other software programs.

I'm not sure if it makes sense(from a user perspective) or whether I like the idea, I mean Paid for xp, W8-8.1 and never looked at cost again.
Having said that I agree with you from MS perspective.....it's coming
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on May 14, 2015, 05:45:57 AM
They said free updates for the life of the machine. I expect them to stand by that.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on May 14, 2015, 06:07:34 AM
I read that part, however it also stated there will be versions it said that will be exempt from the "free updates for life" they were Enterprise Editions etc.
However, the home user will, as you pointed out, get the free updates.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on May 14, 2015, 05:39:37 PM
They said free updates for the life of the machine. I expect them to stand by that.
The question is who sets the life expectancy of the machine ???
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on May 15, 2015, 05:51:03 AM
They said free updates for the life of the machine. I expect them to stand by that.
The question is who sets the life expectancy of the machine ???
You do. As long as you are still using it, it's alive.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on May 15, 2015, 12:55:45 PM
They said free updates for the life of the machine. I expect them to stand by that.
The question is who sets the life expectancy of the machine ???
You do. As long as you are still using it, it's alive.
That is your interpretation. I'd prefer if that came from MS which it has not. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on May 15, 2015, 10:28:55 PM
They said free updates for the life of the machine. I expect them to stand by that.
The question is who sets the life expectancy of the machine ???
You do. As long as you are still using it, it's alive.
That is your interpretation. I'd prefer if that came from MS which it has not. :)
That is exactly what they said. "Lifetime of the machine" means as long as it is useable. There can be no other interpretation. Anything else is FUD nonsense.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on May 15, 2015, 11:02:16 PM
Sorry DCH48 but all things have a life-expectancy. This includes includes computers.
I'm sure Microsoft will define it's meaning before Windows 10 is release.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on May 15, 2015, 11:53:25 PM
Sorry DCH48 but all things have a life-expectancy. This includes includes computers.
I'm sure Microsoft will define it's meaning before Windows 10 is release.
Of course everything has a life expectancy but, they didn't say that. They said , for the life of the machine. We have a life expectancy too but does that mean everybody lives that long and only that long? Of course not.

Life of the machine means until it burns out or blows up or is just scrapped for something new. Your Windows license lasts until you get a new computer. Then, you will have to pay in one way or another. That, in a nutshell, is what they have said.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on May 21, 2015, 03:25:04 PM
New Release Available 10122
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1432214134253-82054.png)
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1432214625789-87698.png)

New Features and Improvements in New Build:


Improvements to Start Menu look-n-feel and functionality
Improvements to Continuum aka Tablet mode
Improvements to Microsoft Edge (aka Project Spartan) web browser
Improvements to default apps and filetypes handler
Redesigned Insider Hub
Improvements to Cortana
Some updated apps
Some small changes in user interface

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Staticguy on May 30, 2015, 11:41:25 AM
Windows 10 on track to launch in July

http://www.theverge.com/2015/5/29/8685243/windows-10-july-launch-date
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Cast on June 01, 2015, 08:56:17 AM
Has anyone received this yet? Got it earlier after I had rebooted my computer.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Coolmario88 on June 01, 2015, 09:08:31 AM
Has anyone received this yet? Got it earlier after I had rebooted my computer.
Yes, I have recieved this today. I went ahead and Reserved :D
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Staticguy on June 01, 2015, 11:27:32 AM
Yeah I got this just now. I am keen to reserve it, but I want to know when will Windows 10 Upgrade Adviser will come out so I can know what programs/softwares/drivers will or will not work? If I am not keen to reserve this update can you please let me know what are the two windows update to uninstall so Windows 10 won't install on my laptop? Just want to have a secondary plan. Also will I get this pop up again if I close it? Thanks  :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on June 01, 2015, 11:35:51 AM
but I want to know when will Windows 10 Upgrade Adviser will come out so I can know what programs will or will not work?
Right click on the icon and check your upgrade status, your system has already been scanned for compatibility.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Staticguy on June 01, 2015, 11:39:26 AM
but I want to know when will Windows 10 Upgrade Adviser will come out so I can know what programs will or will not work?
Right click on the icon and check your upgrade status, your system has already been scanned for compatibility.

Thanks for that mate. What are the two/three windows update files that was available from windows update and one of them says that this update is for windows 10. I installed it. I just want to know what are those two/three KB updates is so I can uninstall it if i don't choose it to install windows 10.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Staticguy on June 01, 2015, 12:01:13 PM
Found that three of my devices may have issues. All of my apps are ok
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on June 01, 2015, 12:34:08 PM
Thanks for that mate. What are the two/three windows update files that was available from windows update and one of them says that this update is for windows 10. I installed it. I just want to know what are those two/three KB updates is so I can uninstall it if i don't choose it to install windows 10.
Why don't you click on the windows updates then use the more information link to see what the updates are ;)

Go to your system provider and download the most recent updates to fix incompatibilities.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on June 01, 2015, 01:02:18 PM
I have this little Windows icon in my task bar so when I clicked on it I chose reserve.  See screenshot.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on June 01, 2015, 03:10:03 PM
For anyone who for what ever reason doesn't want to see this new icon in the system tray or,
doesn't want to update to windows 10 for Free, it's simple:
You will need to uninstall the Windows Update KB3035583 and that should get rid of the icon, alternatively you can simply hide the icon too.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: lucD on June 01, 2015, 10:40:54 PM
Simply hiding the icon only works until the next reboot ... then it comes straight back again.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Staticguy on June 02, 2015, 12:10:59 AM
For anyone who for what ever reason doesn't want to see this new icon in the system tray or,
doesn't want to update to windows 10 for Free, it's simple:
You will need to uninstall the Windows Update KB3035583 and that should get rid of the icon, alternatively you can simply hide the icon too.


Thanks for the confirmation bob3160. I uninstalled the KB3035583 and I hide it. I also uninstalled and hide the KB2952664. Is it ok, if I unhide KB2952664 and install it again? Will that affect my laptop in anyway?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on June 02, 2015, 12:19:47 AM
I suggest you read and follow CraigB's advice:
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=156141.msg1219463#msg1219463 (https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=156141.msg1219463#msg1219463)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Staticguy on June 02, 2015, 01:06:24 AM
I suggest you read and follow CraigB's advice:
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=156141.msg1219463#msg1219463 (https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=156141.msg1219463#msg1219463)

Yeah I have read his comment. Yesterday night that Windows 10 offer came out and only 3 of my bluetooth devices will or may have some issues and one of them will not work and will lose audio. I then ran the HP Support Assistant and I authorized the technician to gain access on my laptop i.e. remote assistance so he can see what's in my laptop and he also saw the windows 10 offer and the 3 devices list. He suggested that I don't install Windows 10 and said that when Windows 10 comes out I will get the full version of the test version of Windows 10. He also told me and I am also aware that I can download updates to my devices and my softwares via HP drivers download website that is specially designed for my laptop. HP doesn't recommend upgrade/downgrade especially upgrade to windows 10 as my laptop is shipped with Windows 7. HP said that they will provide updates once Windows 10 comes out, but recommended me not to install Windows 10.

I have decided not to unhide and not to install this update (KB2952664). Even though mainstream support has ended and is on extended support till January 14, 2020, I will just keep with Windows 7 and make sure it's always updated. It's been a pleasure and an honor to get to know Windows 10. In the future I will buy a new laptop with Windows 10 or a later version which Microsoft will release.

Thanks very much for all of your help and assistance about this topic  :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on June 02, 2015, 01:12:57 AM
Currently no Manufacturer recommends updating to Windows 10 since it hasn't been released.
Personally I think that not taking advantage of a free upgrade to Windows 10 is foolish but, it's your computer.
All of my computers from various manufacturers will be updated just as soon as I have the time to do the upgrade
after Windows 10 becomes available on July 29, 2015.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Rednose on June 02, 2015, 05:42:43 AM
I don't agree with Bob here :)

You have one year the time to take advantage of the free upgrade to Windows 10. So there is no need to upgrade immediately.
My advise : If you want to upgrade, it doesn't hurt to wait. And at least make an image backup from your current installation before you upgrade.

Greetz, Red.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on June 02, 2015, 07:27:59 AM
I don't agree with Bob here :)

You have one year the time to take advantage of the free upgrade to Windows 10. So there is no need to upgrade immediately.
My advise : If you want to upgrade, it doesn't hurt to wait. And at least make an image backup from your current installation before you upgrade.

Greetz, Red.
This is true. Even though I did reserve and will upgrade asap, I will do an image backup of my system before allowing the Win 10 installation.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on June 02, 2015, 02:25:55 PM
I don't agree with Bob here :)

You have one year the time to take advantage of the free upgrade to Windows 10. So there is no need to upgrade immediately.
My advise : If you want to upgrade, it doesn't hurt to wait. And at least make an image backup from your current installation before you upgrade.

Greetz, Red.
Since I'm already beta testing, I know what I'm getting into long before the final release. I create regular image backups and hopefully everyone else also does.
The creation of an Image backup needs to be a part of your regular security plan. It is probably more important than the use of all those security programs running on your system.
There is no such thing as perfect protection and the image backup is one way to recoup if your system becomes infected or you suffer from a hardware failure.
My reply was also directed at someone who decided NOT to upgrade to Windows 10 but stay with windows 7. :) (I'm already running Windows 8.1 and have used Windows 8 since early beta days.)
 

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on June 03, 2015, 05:05:04 AM
Reserved mine today on one of my systems. ;)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Staticguy on June 03, 2015, 10:53:40 AM
Currently no Manufacturer recommends updating to Windows 10 since it hasn't been released.
Personally I think that not taking advantage of a free upgrade to Windows 10 is foolish but, it's your computer.
All of my computers from various manufacturers will be updated just as soon as I have the time to do the upgrade
after Windows 10 becomes available on July 29, 2015.

Thanks again bob3160. Better be safe than sorry!
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on June 04, 2015, 02:07:29 PM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1433419507079-68586.png)
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-faq?ocid=Reserve_r_Confirmation_mod2_faq (http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-faq?ocid=Reserve_r_Confirmation_mod2_faq)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on June 04, 2015, 06:43:42 PM
So now that I've got this sitting in the system tray:
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1433435015781-37104.png)


What else can I do with that Icon ???
Try clicking on it:


(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1433435271673-45392.png)


Now that's more like it:

(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1433435628135-5960.png)


Now, aren't you glad I asked :)










Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on June 04, 2015, 11:20:22 PM
How to remove the “Get Windows 10” Icon from your System Tray
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1433452794122-97251.png)
You should also hide update KB3035583 so it doesn't reinstall the next time you update.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on June 05, 2015, 02:01:16 AM
I wonder what becomes of the icon once W10 is installed...Mmmm ??? ;D
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on June 05, 2015, 05:04:39 AM
This is what I now have in my Windows Update Panel  :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on June 05, 2015, 03:21:58 PM

         (http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1433510438307-60795.png)

Which edition of Windows 10 will you get for free? (http://www.cnet.com/news/which-edition-of-windows-10-will-you-get-for-free/)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on June 05, 2015, 10:31:31 PM

         (http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1433510438307-60795.png)

Which edition of Windows 10 will you get for free? (http://www.cnet.com/news/which-edition-of-windows-10-will-you-get-for-free/)
Since I have the core edition of 8.1, I'm sure I'll get the Home version of 10. The only thing that concerns me is the reported inability to change the updating options.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on June 06, 2015, 04:34:44 PM

(http://res2.windows.microsoft.com/resbox/en/windows/main/e631eaeb-66d5-46bd-9888-77b8e98e847a_15.png)

Download Windows 10 Insider Preview ISO Build 10130 (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/preview-iso)
You may need to sign up for the Windows Insider Program (http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/p/?LinkId=521639), if you haven't already.
Don't forget to install Avast once this is installed! :)
Download links:Online installers

http://files.avast.com/iavs9x/avast_free_antivirus_setup_online.exe (http://files.avast.com/iavs9x/avast_free_antivirus_setup_online.exe)
http://files.avast.com/iavs9x/avast_pro_antivirus_setup_online.exe (http://files.avast.com/iavs9x/avast_pro_antivirus_setup_online.exe)
http://files.avast.com/iavs9x/avast_internet_security_setup_online.exe (http://files.avast.com/iavs9x/avast_internet_security_setup_online.exe)
http://files.avast.com/iavs9x/avast_premier_antivirus_setup_online.exe (http://files.avast.com/iavs9x/avast_premier_antivirus_setup_online.exe)
Full installers
http://files.avast.com/iavs9x/avast_free_antivirus_setup.exe (http://files.avast.com/iavs9x/avast_free_antivirus_setup.exe)
http://files.avast.com/iavs9x/avast_pro_antivirus_setup.exe (http://files.avast.com/iavs9x/avast_pro_antivirus_setup.exe)
http://files.avast.com/iavs9x/avast_internet_security_setup.exe (http://files.avast.com/iavs9x/avast_internet_security_setup.exe)
http://files.avast.com/iavs9x/avast_premier_antivirus_setup.exe (http://files.avast.com/iavs9x/avast_premier_antivirus_setup.exe)


Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on June 07, 2015, 01:31:16 PM
If I upgrade to Windows 10, then decide I don't like it can I switch back to Windows 8.1
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on June 07, 2015, 01:49:06 PM
If I upgrade to Windows 10, then decide I don't like it can I switch back to Windows 8.1
You would need to make a complete system backup/image to be able to restore, Aomei Backupper standard ( free ) makes this easy with 1 click backup and restore http://www.backup-utility.com/free-backup-software.html
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on June 07, 2015, 02:04:39 PM
Thank you.  I just downloaded and installed it.  I'm doing a system backup now.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on June 07, 2015, 02:06:59 PM
Your welcome :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on June 07, 2015, 02:38:29 PM
An Image taken just before you upgrade is certainly the easiest way to go back to Windows 8.1
Without that, you would need to have a Recovery or Installation media of Windows 8.1 (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/create-reset-refresh-media)
You'll also need access to your license for 8.1 and installation media for any software to install once
Windows 8.1 is again up and running.

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on June 07, 2015, 10:53:05 PM
You're supposed to be able to revert to an earlier Windows version by using the built in recovery options. As long as the Windows.old folder exists, they say you can go back. I never tried it so can't say if it really works or not. I have always deleted that folder asap.

AOMEI Backupper does an excellent job of creating and restoring images and I agree that's the best way to do it.

I hope midnight didn't mean she installed 10 and then did an image. You have to do the image before making any changes.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on June 07, 2015, 11:13:24 PM
@Dch48,

I haven't installed Windows 10 yet.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on June 07, 2015, 11:13:48 PM

I hope midnight didn't mean she installed 10 and then did an image. You have to do the image before making any changes.

Yes, I noted that as well, here's hoping.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: mchain on June 08, 2015, 07:45:50 AM
@ -midnight,

There's really no need to install/upgrade Win 10 anytime soon, as a wait-and-see attitude can work wonders.  You'll be able to see if other members are having any issues, and if they are, what the workarounds will be.

You've got an entire year to do this in, beginning on July 29th of this year.  I'd wait and see what happens first.  Preparation is key, and one of the things to prepare for is disaster, beginning with a full disk image of Win 8.1 first so you can recover if the worst does happen when you do upgrade.  If you don't prepare for disaster by creating a full disk image first, then you will not be able to recover back as easily to Win 8.1, and that could be a real problem for you.

Don't know yet if Microsoft is going to release an .ISO file of Win 10, but rumor has it this may happen.  If they do, that would make it simpler to migrate to Win 10 vs. doing an upgrade from Win 7 SP1 or Win 8.1.  Win 10 would then be what is called a clean install and is something I prefer over an upgrade.  Anyway, workarounds for creating an .ISO file from Win 10 preview versions are already posted on the Internet, so that clean install option is already available.  Microsoft really wants you and others to use Windows Update exclusively to upgrade to Win 10 but I am saying other options are available.

Suggest you take your time with this one.   :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on June 08, 2015, 01:39:26 PM
@mchain,

Appreciate your advice.  :)

I'm not planning on upgrading to Win. 10 for at least 3 months after the final version is released. 

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: SpeedyPC on June 08, 2015, 02:14:06 PM
I'm not planning to switch to W10 until the first MS Service Pack is release because I'm in no hurry at all ;)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on June 08, 2015, 02:44:11 PM
I'm not planning to switch to W10 until the first MS Service Pack is release because I'm in not hurry at all ;)
Some of us aren't so young anymore so I'm always in a hurry. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on June 08, 2015, 08:58:41 PM
I'm not planning to switch to W10 until the first MS Service Pack is release because I'm in no hurry at all ;)
All the gamers will get it asap because of the massive performance increases inherent in Direct X 12. Even the current DX 11 based games will see improvements. AMD users will get the most benefit but all systems will be improved in gaming performance. That is all systems having DX 12 compatible graphics cards like Nvidia 700 and 900 series and Radeon R7 and R9 cards. Even laptops with newer AMD APU's (4th gen and up, 6000 series or better) are DX 12 compatible. Windows 10 is going to be revolutionary in the gaming arena. If you don't do higher end 3d gaming then you can upgrade at your leisure.

My copy is reserved and will be installed as soon as MS gives the green light.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Para-Noid on June 08, 2015, 09:32:10 PM
My Win8.1 is fully updated and I have yet to see anything like Bob posted in reply #250.
I double and even triple checked to make sure I had KB3035583 installed. It is. From what
I can see from trying the tech preview Win10 in a VM it looks and works great
Any ideas on why I can't reserve my copy of Win10?

There's no hurry I just wanted to know why I don't get the message as shown in Bob's screenshot?  ???
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on June 08, 2015, 09:41:43 PM
@Para-Noid:

This video might help you out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tG_0xvqrnkM
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Coolmario88 on June 17, 2015, 08:10:55 PM
Does anyone know that after windows 10 gets released next month if it will ask if want it to preserve my files and programs or not? Like do upgrade and keep avast, hypercam, etc. Or give option to remove them and do clean install? Or should I reinstall windows 8 and upgrade back 8.1 if I want clean install?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on June 17, 2015, 08:31:14 PM
Does anyone know that after windows 10 gets released next month if it will ask if want it to preserve my files and programs or not? Like do upgrade and keep avast, hypercam, etc. Or give option to remove them and do clean install? Or should I reinstall windows 8 and upgrade back 8.1 if I want clean install?
I'll be creating an Image of my C drive just before I allow the upgrade. That way, If I want to go back,
It will be just before it updated to Windows 10.
It will then not need to be a clean install of Windows 8 and all of the updates etc.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Coolmario88 on June 17, 2015, 08:41:37 PM
Does anyone know that after windows 10 gets released next month if it will ask if want it to preserve my files and programs or not? Like do upgrade and keep avast, hypercam, etc. Or give option to remove them and do clean install? Or should I reinstall windows 8 and upgrade back 8.1 if I want clean install?
I'll be creating an Image of my C drive just before I allow the upgrade. That way, If I want to go back,
It will be just before it updated to Windows 10.
It will then not need to be a clean install of Windows 8 and all of the updates etc.
I heard windows 10 will wip OEM's recovery partition.. Is this just run off the mill rumour or one that actually is true?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on June 19, 2015, 09:50:51 PM
Does anyone know that after windows 10 gets released next month if it will ask if want it to preserve my files and programs or not? Like do upgrade and keep avast, hypercam, etc. Or give option to remove them and do clean install? Or should I reinstall windows 8 and upgrade back 8.1 if I want clean install?
If you get the free upgrade through Windows Update, it will preserve all your programs and files. I have read that they will also offer an .iso file for those who prefer to do a clean install.

I'm getting the update upgrade but like Bob, I will make a complete system image beforehand just in case.

I have no idea what will happen to the recovery partition but it wouldn't surprise me if it did get wiped.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on June 19, 2015, 10:07:44 PM
The new background is nice: http://prntscr.com/7iy26q
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on June 19, 2015, 10:12:13 PM
Does anyone know that after windows 10 gets released next month if it will ask if want it to preserve my files and programs or not? Like do upgrade and keep avast, hypercam, etc. Or give option to remove them and do clean install? Or should I reinstall windows 8 and upgrade back 8.1 if I want clean install?
If you get the free upgrade through Windows Update, it will preserve all your programs and files. I have read that they will also offer an .iso file for those who prefer to do a clean install.

I'm getting the update upgrade but like Bob, I will make a complete system image beforehand just in case.

I have no idea what will happen to the recovery partition but it wouldn't surprise me if it did get wiped.

I agree.
It's pretty assured, MS doesn't want users to move back but bye in and move forward.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on June 19, 2015, 10:44:41 PM
Does anyone know that after windows 10 gets released next month if it will ask if want it to preserve my files and programs or not? Like do upgrade and keep avast, hypercam, etc. Or give option to remove them and do clean install? Or should I reinstall windows 8 and upgrade back 8.1 if I want clean install?
If you get the free upgrade through Windows Update, it will preserve all your programs and files. I have read that they will also offer an .iso file for those who prefer to do a clean install.

I'm getting the update upgrade but like Bob, I will make a complete system image beforehand just in case.

I have no idea what will happen to the recovery partition but it wouldn't surprise me if it did get wiped.

I agree.
It's pretty assured, MS doesn't want users to move back but bye in and move forward.
I'll be creating an Image just before the update so I don't really care what MS does with the restore partition. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Coolmario88 on June 20, 2015, 03:21:01 AM
Does anyone know that after windows 10 gets released next month if it will ask if want it to preserve my files and programs or not? Like do upgrade and keep avast, hypercam, etc. Or give option to remove them and do clean install? Or should I reinstall windows 8 and upgrade back 8.1 if I want clean install?
If you get the free upgrade through Windows Update, it will preserve all your programs and files. I have read that they will also offer an .iso file for those who prefer to do a clean install.

I'm getting the update upgrade but like Bob, I will make a complete system image beforehand just in case.

I have no idea what will happen to the recovery partition but it wouldn't surprise me if it did get wiped.

I agree.
It's pretty assured, MS doesn't want users to move back but bye in and move forward.
I'll be creating an Image just before the update so I don't really care what MS does with the restore partition. :)
I'll be upgrading through windows update and downloading the .iso so i will have it on a usb flash drive so i can do win10 clean install anytime
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on June 20, 2015, 02:27:57 PM
Does anyone know that after windows 10 gets released next month if it will ask if want it to preserve my files and programs or not? Like do upgrade and keep avast, hypercam, etc. Or give option to remove them and do clean install? Or should I reinstall windows 8 and upgrade back 8.1 if I want clean install?
If you get the free upgrade through Windows Update, it will preserve all your programs and files. I have read that they will also offer an .iso file for those who prefer to do a clean install.

I'm getting the update upgrade but like Bob, I will make a complete system image beforehand just in case.

I have no idea what will happen to the recovery partition but it wouldn't surprise me if it did get wiped.

I agree.
It's pretty assured, MS doesn't want users to move back but bye in and move forward.
I'll be creating an Image just before the update so I don't really care what MS does with the restore partition. :)
I'll be upgrading through windows update and downloading the .iso so i will have it on a usb flash drive so i can do win10 clean install anytime
That does nothing to preserve your old version of Windows should you want to go back. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on June 20, 2015, 03:33:05 PM
It pays to be a Microsoft Insider. See why:
http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/06/19/upcoming-changes-to-windows-10-insider-preview-builds/ (http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/06/19/upcoming-changes-to-windows-10-insider-preview-builds/)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on June 20, 2015, 07:54:14 PM
What I'm wondering is this. I have 8.1 core edition with a copy of 10 reserved on my primary HDD. I also have the 10130 Win 10 Pro 10130 on my second HDD. I wonder if I will receive the release version on both drives. I was planning on wiping the second drive after release.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on June 20, 2015, 08:53:53 PM
What I'm wondering is this. I have 8.1 core edition with a copy of 10 reserved on my primary HDD. I also have the 10130 Win 10 Pro 10130 on my second HDD. I wonder if I will receive the release version on both drives. I was planning on wiping the second drive after release.
I've already removed the Windows 10 partitions on all but one computer and will be waiting for the update on these computer to Windows 10 on 7/29/2015.
Once Windows 10 is released, I'll only keep one computer that still dual boots to either Windows 8.1 or Windows 10.

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on June 21, 2015, 02:57:03 AM
What I'm wondering is this. I have 8.1 core edition with a copy of 10 reserved on my primary HDD. I also have the 10130 Win 10 Pro 10130 on my second HDD. I wonder if I will receive the release version on both drives. I was planning on wiping the second drive after release.
I've already removed the Windows 10 partitions on all but one computer and will be waiting for the update on these computer to Windows 10 on 7/29/2015.
Once Windows 10 is released, I'll only keep one computer that still dual boots to either Windows 8.1 or Windows 10.
I really don't see any reason to have dual boot after the release. I'll probably just go with 10. I think I'm keeping 7 on my laptop though..
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: digmor crusher on June 21, 2015, 06:42:54 AM
I'm certainly in no rush to update, not sure if I would even like Windows 10. If Microsoft follows pattern of alternating between good and bad operating systems then 10 may prove to be one of the good ones. However, MS seems to be messing up a lot lately,so I'll let the early adapters deal with all the problems and bugs, I'll wait a few months until they are ironed before before I decide if I'm going to update or not. Perfectly happy with Windows 7 here, no need here to always have the latest and greatest.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Asyn on June 21, 2015, 10:25:24 AM
Windows 10 to offer application developers new malware defenses
http://blogs.technet.com/b/mmpc/archive/2015/06/09/windows-10-to-offer-application-developers-new-malware-defenses.aspx
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on June 21, 2015, 04:29:23 PM
What I'm wondering is this. I have 8.1 core edition with a copy of 10 reserved on my primary HDD. I also have the 10130 Win 10 Pro 10130 on my second HDD. I wonder if I will receive the release version on both drives. I was planning on wiping the second drive after release.
I've already removed the Windows 10 partitions on all but one computer and will be waiting for the update on these computer to Windows 10 on 7/29/2015.
Once Windows 10 is released, I'll only keep one computer that still dual boots to either Windows 8.1 or Windows 10.
I really don't see any reason to have dual boot after the release. I'll probably just go with 10. I think I'm keeping 7 on my laptop though..

I personally will be keeping W8.1 on one LT and go with W10 on the other.
Actually looking forward to the new OS. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Coolmario88 on June 22, 2015, 05:22:16 AM
Is the windows 10 preview not for everyday use, I am thinking of downloading it and trying it until next month but i am wondering is it worth trying the preview or only if I know how to deal with debugging and such?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on June 22, 2015, 02:43:21 PM
Is the windows 10 preview not for everyday use, I am thinking of downloading it and trying it until next month but i am wondering is it worth trying the preview or only if I know how to deal with debugging and such?
Windows 10 is currently still a beta version and needs to be treated as a beta. You assume the risks when you run any beta program.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Staticguy on June 23, 2015, 12:29:54 PM
Howdy all! Quick question will Superantispyware be compatible with Windows 10? Got this question from a user via SuperAntispyware forum?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on June 23, 2015, 12:36:06 PM
Howdy all! Quick question will Superantispyware be compatible with Windows 10? Got this question from a user via SuperAntispyware forum?
Why didn't he ask on the SuperAntispyware forum ??? they should know.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Staticguy on June 23, 2015, 12:38:54 PM
He asked it on the SuperAntiSpyware forum, but got no answer. So I came here thought that you guys should know since most of you will be going for Windows 10. So I can answer his question on the SuperAntiSpyware forum.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on June 23, 2015, 12:44:23 PM
He needs to be patient or ask again.

Some here might still use SAS but I believe most use MBAM who's most recent update 2.1.8 ( still in roll out ) is Win10 compatible.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on June 23, 2015, 01:05:05 PM
He asked it on the SuperAntiSpyware forum, but got no answer. So I came here thought that you guys should know since most of you will be going for Windows 10. So I can answer his question on the SuperAntiSpyware forum.
What makes you think we are  mind readers and know answers to questions that even the forum for the product can't answer ???  :o

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on June 23, 2015, 01:29:20 PM
http://www.dell.com/learn/us/en/19/campaigns/windows-10?c=us&l=en&s=dhs

I'm a tad bit afraid to upgrade to Win 10 so might buy 2 Win 10 laptops.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on June 24, 2015, 03:03:08 PM
http://www.dell.com/learn/us/en/19/campaigns/windows-10?c=us&l=en&s=dhs (http://www.dell.com/learn/us/en/19/campaigns/windows-10?c=us&l=en&s=dhs)

I'm a tad bit afraid to upgrade to Win 10 so might buy 2 Win 10 laptops.
Would you buy one for me too ??? :)
There's nothing to be afraid of. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on June 24, 2015, 05:55:12 PM
@bob3160

This is the reason I want to buy 2 windows 10 laptops.  I don't know where the license is for my win 7 or my win 8.1.

http://www.winbeta.org/news/microsoft-clears-confusion-reaffirms-free-windows-10-insiders


Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Para-Noid on June 24, 2015, 06:58:48 PM
I don't know where the license is for my win 7 or my win 8.1.

It's included in your OS partition. That's how Microsoft knows if your copy of Windows is legit.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on June 24, 2015, 08:50:04 PM
@bob3160

This is the reason I want to buy 2 windows 10 laptops.  I don't know where the license is for my win 7 or my win 8.1.

http://www.winbeta.org/news/microsoft-clears-confusion-reaffirms-free-windows-10-insiders (http://www.winbeta.org/news/microsoft-clears-confusion-reaffirms-free-windows-10-insiders)
If you need to recover your license, you can always use a program like Product KeyFinder from Magic Jelly Bean:
https://www.magicaljellybean.com/keyfinder/ (https://www.magicaljellybean.com/keyfinder/)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: superfries on June 26, 2015, 09:35:14 AM
Hello,

I am considering to buy Avast Internet Security and I currently have Windows 7. However, I will update to Windows 10 when that is possible. Just to make sure, if I buy Avast now and use it on Windows 7, I can also use it on Windows 10 when I update it? Or do I need to pay for a new version of Avast in that case?


Thanks!
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Asyn on June 26, 2015, 09:37:55 AM
Just to make sure, if I buy Avast now and use it on Windows 7, I can also use it on Windows 10 when I update it?
Sure. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: mchain on June 26, 2015, 05:33:05 PM
How Tron Inspired Windows 10’s Moody New Wallpaper
http://www.wired.com/2015/06/tron-inspired-microsoft-10s-moody-new-wallpaper/?mbid=social_twitter
 (http://www.wired.com/2015/06/tron-inspired-microsoft-10s-moody-new-wallpaper/?mbid=social_twitter) 
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Para-Noid on June 26, 2015, 07:41:51 PM
Hello,

I am considering to buy Avast Internet Security and I currently have Windows 7. However, I will update to Windows 10 when that is possible. Just to make sure, if I buy Avast now and use it on Windows 7, I can also use it on Windows 10 when I update it? Or do I need to pay for a new version of Avast in that case?


Thanks!

It should automatically convert along with the OS.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on June 27, 2015, 09:13:34 PM
@bob3160

This is the reason I want to buy 2 windows 10 laptops.  I don't know where the license is for my win 7 or my win 8.1.

http://www.winbeta.org/news/microsoft-clears-confusion-reaffirms-free-windows-10-insiders
You don't need it. Windows Update will check for you.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Staticguy on June 30, 2015, 02:19:54 PM
New Build for Windows 10

https://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/06/29/announcing-windows-10-insider-preview-build-10158-for-pcs/

In this new build, includes a new feature called Microsoft Wi-Fi

http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-wi-fi-now-included-with-windows-10
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on June 30, 2015, 11:29:08 PM
New Build for Windows 10

https://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/06/29/announcing-windows-10-insider-preview-build-10158-for-pcs/ (https://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/06/29/announcing-windows-10-insider-preview-build-10158-for-pcs/)

In this new build, includes a new feature called Microsoft Wi-Fi

http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-wi-fi-now-included-with-windows-10 (http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-wi-fi-now-included-with-windows-10)
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1435699669054-81767.png)

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on June 30, 2015, 11:35:01 PM
Sorry for interrupting you Norbert:

http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/06/30/whoa-another-pc-build/
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Para-Noid on June 30, 2015, 11:36:45 PM
@ Bob  I guess there is more than one way to take a selfie.  ;D
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 01, 2015, 12:26:28 AM
@ Bob  I guess there is more than one way to take a selfie.  ;D
I tried sliding down to get out of the reflection but I wasn't successful. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Staticguy on July 01, 2015, 03:53:26 AM
Another and like always an awesome selfie bob3160  ;D
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 01, 2015, 05:57:13 PM
Sorry for interrupting you Norbert:

http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/06/30/whoa-another-pc-build/ (http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/06/30/whoa-another-pc-build/)
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1435766164198-95502.png)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 03, 2015, 03:41:47 PM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1435930640083-29099.png)
Download Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 10162 Offline ISO Files (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/preview-iso)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Para-Noid on July 03, 2015, 08:25:22 PM
Bob the link goes to Win10 10130 "not" 10162  ???
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 03, 2015, 08:33:13 PM
Bob the link goes to Win10 10130 "not" 10162  ???
You need to sign in to your Insider Account!
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1435948367849-11577.png)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on July 03, 2015, 09:45:06 PM
New Build for Windows 10

https://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/06/29/announcing-windows-10-insider-preview-build-10158-for-pcs/ (https://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/06/29/announcing-windows-10-insider-preview-build-10158-for-pcs/)

In this new build, includes a new feature called Microsoft Wi-Fi

http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-wi-fi-now-included-with-windows-10 (http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-wi-fi-now-included-with-windows-10)
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1435699669054-81767.png)
Interesting , cool, and I'm sure attractive to some. For me, It's another feature I will never use. I don't have a Windows tablet and this desktop PC doesn't even have a wireless card in it. It would be nice for a laptop though.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 03, 2015, 10:31:21 PM
Another link for the 10162 ISO downloads:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/preview-iso (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/preview-iso)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on July 04, 2015, 08:48:08 AM
I got 10162 through Windows Update today. The new welcome screen is much nicer and for the first time, my picture actually shows. It never did before when I set Windows to skip the lock screen and automatically log in. Now it does.

Edge is improved but still not enough for me to use it over IE. I don't like that the favorites can't be sorted and that tracking lists are still not available. You also can't change the search engine away from Bing. It is very smooth and fast though.

Classic Shell 4.2.2 fixes the issue with the Windows app list not showing.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on July 04, 2015, 07:56:52 PM
Anyone else noticing that many "peripheral software" applications are Updating like crazy; obviously getting upgraded for Win 10.
My new HP ENVY just updated the BIOS, the Quick Pass module, Security components and all Factory Installed Cyberlink components I've chosen to keep installed.
Going to be a busy 3 weeks prior to July 29th. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Para-Noid on July 04, 2015, 08:04:00 PM
Another link for the 10162 ISO downloads:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/preview-iso (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/preview-iso)

That one works! Thanks! 8)
I was/am signed into my insider account.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on July 05, 2015, 04:53:17 PM
Anyone else noticing that many "peripheral software" applications are Updating like crazy; obviously getting upgraded for Win 10.
My new HP ENVY just updated the BIOS, the Quick Pass module, Security components and all Factory Installed Cyberlink components I've chosen to keep installed.
Going to be a busy 3 weeks prior to July 29th. :)

BUMP
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Coolmario88 on July 05, 2015, 04:57:27 PM
Anyone else noticing that many "peripheral software" applications are Updating like crazy; obviously getting upgraded for Win 10.
My new HP ENVY just updated the BIOS, the Quick Pass module, Security components and all Factory Installed Cyberlink components I've chosen to keep installed.
Going to be a busy 3 weeks prior to July 29th. :)
Wait some computers might need a BIOS update for Windows 10 support? I hope mine don't need a update to it for win10
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on July 05, 2015, 05:13:29 PM
Anyone else noticing that many "peripheral software" applications are Updating like crazy; obviously getting upgraded for Win 10.
My new HP ENVY just updated the BIOS, the Quick Pass module, Security components and all Factory Installed Cyberlink components I've chosen to keep installed.
Going to be a busy 3 weeks prior to July 29th. :)
Wait some computers might need a BIOS update for Windows 10 support? I hope mine don't need a update to it for win10

I was surprised by the BIOS update, as the laptop in New. I'm sure there will be more updates for peripheral software installations coming in the next weeks.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on July 05, 2015, 05:16:12 PM
Anyone else noticing that many "peripheral software" applications are Updating like crazy; obviously getting upgraded for Win 10.
My new HP ENVY just updated the BIOS, the Quick Pass module, Security components and all Factory Installed Cyberlink components I've chosen to keep installed.
Going to be a busy 3 weeks prior to July 29th. :)
Wait some computers might need a BIOS update for Windows 10 support? I hope mine don't need a update to it for win10

BIOS shouldn't be an issue, it's not something that is related to an OS, my last BIOS was in 2011/2012 to update thermal policies.

@schmidthouse, yes most of my peripheral software's have been updated for Win10 compatibility, Nvidia graphics - Realtek Audio, Ethernet an Card Reader - Fresco Logic USB 3 host controller.

On top of them is the program updates for our AV's, malware scanners, Garmin, iTunes etc etc etc
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 05, 2015, 05:17:02 PM
Anyone else noticing that many "peripheral software" applications are Updating like crazy; obviously getting upgraded for Win 10.
My new HP ENVY just updated the BIOS, the Quick Pass module, Security components and all Factory Installed Cyberlink components I've chosen to keep installed.
Going to be a busy 3 weeks prior to July 29th. :)
Wait some computers might need a BIOS update for Windows 10 support? I hope mine don't need a update to it for win10

I was surprised by the BIOS update, as the laptop in New. I'm sure there will be more updates for peripheral software installations coming in the next weeks.
New and updated are two different terms. My new Laptop required lot's of updates. It had Windows 8.1 but had never been updated.
Your computer and mine were new as of the day they put the thing together. No telling how long it sat on a shelf.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on July 05, 2015, 05:33:12 PM
Good information, thanks guys.
Time is ticking, ticking, ticking. ;D
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 06, 2015, 08:32:59 PM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1436207565070-25274.png)
Windows 10 likely to land at PC makers this week (http://www.cnet.com/news/windows-10-development-to-be-finalized-this-week-report/?tag=nl.e404&s_cid=e404&ttag=e404&ftag=CAD1acfa04)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on July 06, 2015, 08:36:07 PM
Im looking forward to Windows 10, iman Insider so i get it early :D

Im sure Win 10 will be better than 8. And i sincerely hope the PC Manufacturers will not mess it up on their OEM versions.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Staticguy on July 07, 2015, 10:01:22 AM
Microsoft Confirms Groove Music Subscription Service

http://www.windows10update.com/2015/07/microsoft-confirms-groove-music-subscription-service/
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Staticguy on July 08, 2015, 12:21:01 PM
Mozilla Firefox For Windows 10 Officially Announced

http://www.windows10update.com/2015/07/mozilla-firefox-for-windows-10-officially-announced/
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 10, 2015, 05:12:49 PM



(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1436541046411-13572.png)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on July 10, 2015, 05:17:15 PM
I went to boot 10 from my secondary hard drive and it would no longer boot. I tested the drive and it passed the SMART tests and a simple read test but failed on a quick self test. Trying to repair the Win 10 installation failed so I wiped the drive and removed it. It is an older 2007 model Western Digital 500gb that I bought used. It seemed to still work fine for copying things and storing backups but I didn't trust it and ordered a new Seagate 500gb drive for $38 to replace it. It also was very warm when I took it out. Much warmer than the 1tb Seagate Barracuda that is the primary drive. I could always hear it running while it was booting before but when it was trying to boot yesterday it sounded like it was getting stuck.

I will not have Win 10 now until I get the free upgrade in about 3 weeks. I'm not going to bother with installing a preview build on the new drive. It will be used strictly for storage and image backups. I think I've seen what I need to see of 10.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: mchain on July 10, 2015, 08:28:35 PM
I went to boot 10 from my secondary hard drive and it would no longer boot. I tested the drive and it passed the SMART tests and a simple read test but failed on a quick self test. Trying to repair the Win 10 installation failed so I wiped the drive and removed it. It is an older 2007 model Western Digital 500gb that I bought used. It seemed to still work fine for copying things and storing backups but I didn't trust it and ordered a new Hitachi 500gb drive for $32 to replace it. It also was very warm when I took it out. Much warmer than the 1tb Seagate Barracuda that is the primary drive. I could always hear it running while it was booting before but when it was trying to boot yesterday it sounded like it was getting stuck.

I will not have Win 10 now until I get the free upgrade in about 3 weeks. I'm not going to bother with installing a preview build on the new drive. It will be used strictly for storage and image backups. I think I've seen what I need to see of 10.
An alternative solution often not considered:  https://www.grc.com/sr/spinrite.htm (https://www.grc.com/sr/spinrite.htm)  Useful for situations such as this one.  Not an advertisement for GRC as such but can be used for monthly maintenance of existing spinning HDD's.  Much cheaper than $1,000's charged by clean room data recovery experts.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on July 10, 2015, 11:53:00 PM
That looks good but there wasn't anything on the drive of any concern to recover. It only had Windows 10 preview and a couple of other things like Outlook and utilities like Ccleaner. No more than 5 installed programs that I also have in my 8.1 main installation.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 13, 2015, 02:03:47 PM

(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1436788979377-88015.png)
Starting to use Windows 10
(From Lenovo)
Download the PDF Guide from:
https://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/lnb_win10_qsg_en.pdf (https://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/lnb_win10_qsg_en.pdf)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on July 13, 2015, 02:30:14 PM
Heres a download link for Windows 10 Buold 10176 as ISO File in English 64-Bit:

https://mega.co.nz/#!voR3XbCY!9NoZ1eHTkbI6meAiwFcNmNVnTFqihzmvWoA0zSynJHA
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 13, 2015, 03:34:22 PM
Heres a download link for Windows 10 Buold 10176 as ISO File in English 64-Bit:

https://mega.co.nz/#!voR3XbCY!9NoZ1eHTkbI6meAiwFcNmNVnTFqihzmvWoA0zSynJHA (https://mega.co.nz/#!voR3XbCY!9NoZ1eHTkbI6meAiwFcNmNVnTFqihzmvWoA0zSynJHA)
Sorry but I prefer to get my copies directly from Microsoft. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 13, 2015, 03:52:41 PM
IMHO, we also shouldn't be posting any links to not yet released versions.
There isn't any way to guarantee authenticity.
Your system, your choice. I'll stay safe. :)


(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1436795619528-50359.png)
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1436795686605-21875.png)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on July 13, 2015, 03:53:46 PM
I have it in a VM, looks like RTM Build cause theres no longer the build version text on the bottom right corner. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 13, 2015, 04:28:39 PM

(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1436797662948-58828.png)

Customizing the Start Menu in Windows 10 (https://davescomputertips.com/customising-the-start-menu-in-windows-10/?utm_source=wysija&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Weekly+Recap+Newsletter)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on July 15, 2015, 09:02:02 PM
Windows 10 RTM is now out for download: http://prntscr.com/7t32lb
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 16, 2015, 12:09:37 AM

(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1436998164393-14642.png)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on July 16, 2015, 12:12:57 AM
Being W10 comes with new Browser (MS Edge)
Can Internet Explorer 11 run on W10 OS?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on July 16, 2015, 12:23:30 AM
IE will stay for compatibility reasons :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on July 16, 2015, 12:27:39 AM
IE will stay for compatibility reasons :)

Does it come installed automatically with the OS?

Edit:  In other words that would be 2 Browsers contained within the OS,
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 16, 2015, 03:14:17 AM
After the update:
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1437008934995-84698.png)
Avast IS again was unable to start the Firewall Module and required an additional boot to be fully functional.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 16, 2015, 03:25:56 AM
IE will stay for compatibility reasons :)

Does it come installed automatically with the OS?

Edit:  In other words that would be 2 Browsers contained within the OS,
This is still part of Windows 10:
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1437009875756-34567.png)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on July 16, 2015, 03:39:20 AM
Thanks Bob
How do the 2 Browsers compare in your experience (IE vs MS edge)?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on July 16, 2015, 05:16:19 AM
To make it short: Edge is much better. But its still not fully finished.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on July 16, 2015, 05:23:12 AM
To make it short: Edge is much better. But its still not fully finished.

How is it better, what's missing that it's not finished?
Thanks.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 16, 2015, 12:58:00 PM
To make it short: Edge is much better. But its still not fully finished.

How is it better, what's missing that it's not finished?
Thanks.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/preview-microsoft-edge-pc (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/preview-microsoft-edge-pc)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 16, 2015, 01:32:34 PM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1437046283085-80410.png)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on July 16, 2015, 05:49:57 PM
Thanks Bob
How do the 2 Browsers compare in your experience (IE vs MS edge)?
At this point, I still prefer IE. Many of it's best features are not implemented in Edge. No tracking protection lists ( so no ad blocking, makes ad heavy sites very slow), no choice of search engine (yet, hopefully they fix that).

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on July 16, 2015, 05:54:01 PM
There will be more features coming its still in development :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on July 16, 2015, 05:54:11 PM
Thanks Bob
How do the 2 Browsers compare in your experience (IE vs MS edge)?
At this point, I still prefer IE. Many of it's best features are not implemented in Edge. No tracking protection lists ( so no ad blocking, makes ad heavy sites very slow), no choice of search engine (yet, hopefully they fix that).

Thanks Dch48, that is what I'm looking for; real time comparison by folks that are/have actually used both and can provide their input/opinion on the comparison as I don't/have not installed the preview.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on July 16, 2015, 05:58:22 PM
Thanks Bob
How do the 2 Browsers compare in your experience (IE vs MS edge)?
At this point, I still prefer IE. Many of it's best features are not implemented in Edge. No tracking protection lists ( so no ad blocking, makes ad heavy sites very slow), no choice of search engine (yet, hopefully they fix that).

Thanks Dch48, that is what I'm looking for; real time comparison by folks that are/have actually used both and can provide their input/opinion on the comparison as I don't/have not installed the preview.
I also don't like the hub thing, have no need for writing on pages, and have no desire to use Cortana.

I want my Windows 10 to be 8.1 with the gaming enhancements of Direct X 12. I intend to set it up that way as much as possible.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 16, 2015, 07:16:51 PM
Thanks Bob
How do the 2 Browsers compare in your experience (IE vs MS edge)?
At this point, I still prefer IE. Many of it's best features are not implemented in Edge. No tracking protection lists ( so no ad blocking, makes ad heavy sites very slow), no choice of search engine (yet, hopefully they fix that).

Thanks Dch48, that is what I'm looking for; real time comparison by folks that are/have actually used both and can provide their input/opinion on the comparison as I don't/have not installed the preview.
I also don't like the hub thing, have no need for writing on pages, and have no desire to use Cortana.

I want my Windows 10 to be 8.1 with the gaming enhancements of Direct X 12. I intend to set it up that way as much as possible.
Not all of us use our systems the same way even if we run the same OS. :)
If you don't like something, shut it off or, don't use it. It's always nice to have more features than less as long as you have the option to choose
which options you want to use. Cortana just like it's predecessors on other systems, is a very handy tool.
The feature is also a great help for many with disabilities. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on July 17, 2015, 02:29:54 AM
I also understand that MS Office (2016) is included in the W10 OS.
I assume there is a trial period then purchase.

edit
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: abruptum on July 17, 2015, 12:59:22 PM
Confirmed: Windows 10 Home users to receive forced updates

  http://www.ghacks.net/2015/07/17/confirmed-windows-10-home-users-to-receive-forced-updates/
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 17, 2015, 03:48:25 PM
Confirmed: Windows 10 Home users to receive forced updates

  http://www.ghacks.net/2015/07/17/confirmed-windows-10-home-users-to-receive-forced-updates/ (http://www.ghacks.net/2015/07/17/confirmed-windows-10-home-users-to-receive-forced-updates/)

Most of the infected systems I've run into had not been updated. The infection was usually a direct result of a breach
that could have been prevented if  updates had been done in a timely manor. Updating enhances your security.
I personally have no objections to making updates a matter of course.
If they happen in the background, the system will always be as up to date as possible and, as secure as possible.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 17, 2015, 04:50:11 PM

(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1437144588457-48713.png)

Microsoft releases new license terms for Windows 10: Biggest surprise? No gotchas (http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-releases-new-license-terms-for-windows-10-no-surprises/)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on July 17, 2015, 05:10:12 PM
Confirmed: Windows 10 Home users to receive forced updates

  http://www.ghacks.net/2015/07/17/confirmed-windows-10-home-users-to-receive-forced-updates/

After Reading the article I definitely DO NOT like this idea at all, for the obvious reasons cited.
This will have consequences I think, not advantageous for MS.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Coolmario88 on July 17, 2015, 06:51:35 PM
Wait forced updates? Don't they already do that sorta out of the box for windows 8? I mean it's set to automatically install updates, most people prefer this.. So will updates like security fixes and such be handled differently?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on July 17, 2015, 06:55:35 PM
Confirmed: Windows 10 Home users to receive forced updates

  http://www.ghacks.net/2015/07/17/confirmed-windows-10-home-users-to-receive-forced-updates/

Having read this I think I've changed my mind about upgrading to win 10.  I don't want any forced updates.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on July 17, 2015, 11:18:38 PM
Confirmed: Windows 10 Home users to receive forced updates

  http://www.ghacks.net/2015/07/17/confirmed-windows-10-home-users-to-receive-forced-updates/ (http://www.ghacks.net/2015/07/17/confirmed-windows-10-home-users-to-receive-forced-updates/)

Most of the infected systems I've run into had not been updated. The infection was usually a direct result of a breach
that could have been prevented if  updates had been done in a timely manor. Updating enhances your security.
I personally have no objections to making updates a matter of course.
If they happen in the background, the system will always be as up to date as possible and, as secure as possible.
Only the downloading should be forced. We need the ability to delay installation until a convenient time.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on July 17, 2015, 11:32:56 PM
Thanks Bob
How do the 2 Browsers compare in your experience (IE vs MS edge)?
At this point, I still prefer IE. Many of it's best features are not implemented in Edge. No tracking protection lists ( so no ad blocking, makes ad heavy sites very slow), no choice of search engine (yet, hopefully they fix that).

Thanks Dch48, that is what I'm looking for; real time comparison by folks that are/have actually used both and can provide their input/opinion on the comparison as I don't/have not installed the preview.
I also don't like the hub thing, have no need for writing on pages, and have no desire to use Cortana.

I want my Windows 10 to be 8.1 with the gaming enhancements of Direct X 12. I intend to set it up that way as much as possible.
Not all of us use our systems the same way even if we run the same OS. :)
If you don't like something, shut it off or, don't use it. It's always nice to have more features than less as long as you have the option to choose
which options you want to use. Cortana just like it's predecessors on other systems, is a very handy tool.
The feature is also a great help for many with disabilities. :)
Bob, I was stating why IE is still better than Edge to me. I don't need some of the Edge features and I do want some IE features in Edge that right now are missing. You're a good guy but sometimes you get like too much of a forum cop.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 17, 2015, 11:46:19 PM
Not a forum cop just expressing my opinion. You aren't the only one that has one. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on July 18, 2015, 05:09:15 PM

Confirmed: Windows 10 Home users to receive forced updates

Only the downloading should be forced. We need the ability to delay installation until a convenient time.

Absolutely, anything else is going to be trouble.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 18, 2015, 05:37:24 PM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1437233713401-21153.png)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on July 19, 2015, 07:29:10 PM
Here are some modified Full-HD Windows 10 Hero Wallpapers:

http://www.deviantart.com/download/547422306/windows_10_hero_minimal_wallpapers_by_warrenclyde-d91x5r6.zip?token=6ad464df885095b7349974aa4a3b90a4933335d1&ts=1437327402

Created and Copyright Warren Clyde

https://warrenclyde.deviantart.com/art/Windows-10-Hero-Minimal-Wallpapers-547422306?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Pondus on July 19, 2015, 08:15:28 PM
Windows 10 Will Kill The Installation DVD, Finally
http://gizmodo.com/windows-10-will-kill-the-installation-dvd-finally-1718439982?utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_facebook&utm_source=gizmodo_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 19, 2015, 08:37:58 PM
I just upgraded my Windows 8.1 32 bit Laptop to Windows 10 using a DVD created from
Windows 10 build 10240
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1437330094916-46905.png)
Some pictures:
https://goo.gl/photos/sD9uCGCN4PT76qzp6 (https://goo.gl/photos/sD9uCGCN4PT76qzp6)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Lisandro on July 19, 2015, 10:59:00 PM
I just upgraded my Windows 8.1 32 bit Laptop to Windows 10 using a DVD created from
Windows 10 build 10240
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1437330094916-46905.png)
Some pictures:
https://goo.gl/photos/sD9uCGCN4PT76qzp6 (https://goo.gl/photos/sD9uCGCN4PT76qzp6)
Bob, does this mean you're using your Insider key? Or, on contrary, you're using the OEM key of Windows 8.1?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 19, 2015, 11:16:54 PM
I just upgraded my Windows 8.1 32 bit Laptop to Windows 10 using a DVD created from
Windows 10 build 10240
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1437330094916-46905.png)
Some pictures:
https://goo.gl/photos/sD9uCGCN4PT76qzp6 (https://goo.gl/photos/sD9uCGCN4PT76qzp6)
Bob, does this mean you're using your Insider key? Or, on contrary, you're using the OEM key of Windows 8.1?
Mine wasn't an OEm windows 8 install. This computer was originally running Windows Vista. I upgraded it to Windows 8 and then 8.1

I didn't have to supply a key during the install. I can only assume that a check was made during the upgrade.
There is now a new key other than the original Windows 8 key.
Next I'll be doing this same upgrade on an old computer that started out with Windows Millennium and has been updated to it's current 8.1 status.
Wish me luck. here's what this computer looks like:
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1437340573584-14189.png)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Lisandro on July 19, 2015, 11:51:55 PM
Although I have joined the Insider Program of Windows 10, I couldn't test that much due to space limitation in my computer and, mostly, time  :-X
Seems I'll wait for July 29th.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 19, 2015, 11:53:50 PM
Although I have joined the Insider Program of Windows 10, I couldn't test that much due to space limitation in my computer and, mostly, time  :-X
Seems I'll wait for July 29th.
I will also be doing that on my 64 bit computers. Since this seems to work on the 32 bit systems, it gives me a head start. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: mchain on July 19, 2015, 11:58:46 PM
If it is luck you need, then you seem to have plenty of that.  How old exactly is that Millennium system?  Interested to hear how this will turn out.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 20, 2015, 12:04:35 AM
If it is luck you need, then you seem to have plenty of that.  How old exactly is that Millennium system?  Interested to hear how this will turn out.
I've had the system for about 12 years. The motherboard was changed about 7 years ago. Will let you know how it turns out. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: mchain on July 20, 2015, 12:11:00 AM
Crossed fingers  :-)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 20, 2015, 03:56:45 PM

(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1437400571139-30013.png)
Windows 10 support from Microsoft confirmed to last until October 14, 2025 (http://www.windowscentral.com/windows-10-support-microsoft-confirmed-last-until-october-14-2025)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Pondus on July 20, 2015, 05:16:13 PM
Windows lifecycle fact sheet
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/lifecycle

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 21, 2015, 03:21:13 PM

(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1437400571139-30013.png)
Windows 10 Q&A (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-faq?faq=upgrade&ocid=reserve_r_PostReserve_mod1_faq) (Directly from Microsoft)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Coolmario88 on July 21, 2015, 06:36:11 PM
With the extended support lifecycle of windows 10 saying it will be ending in October 14, 2025 i think my thoughts might be on to something.. I was thinking the other day, They said windows 10 is the last version of windows.. Whos to say they won't make a new OS in the future that isn't Windows, but an Operating system by Microsoft with a new name..Does this make any sense?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on July 21, 2015, 07:03:37 PM
That could be totally possible and hopefully its better than Windows.

More stable, better security, good design, compatible and more.......
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 21, 2015, 08:49:32 PM
That could be totally possible and hopefully its better than Windows.

More stable, better security, good design, compatible and more.......
Sounds like you have a problem with Windows ???
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on July 21, 2015, 08:55:51 PM
Yes, i keep breaking it :D

No i mean if they develop a new OS WITH ANOTHER NAME THAN WINDOWS, i hope its much better.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Pondus on July 21, 2015, 09:08:00 PM
Yes, i keep breaking it :D

No i mean if they develop a new OS WITH ANOTHER NAME THAN WINDOWS, i hope its much better.
maybe BrokenWindows    ;D

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on July 21, 2015, 09:09:07 PM
@Pondus: I hope not.........
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 21, 2015, 09:09:26 PM
Yes, i keep breaking it :D

No i mean if they develop a new OS WITH ANOTHER NAME THAN WINDOWS, i hope its much better.
maybe BrokenWindows    ;D
I'd prefer Bullet Proof Windows! :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on July 21, 2015, 09:13:57 PM
Well I'm certainly no pro tech, but it seems to me that whatever anything new is called, It's going to be developed on/from the principles and foundation of OS's in the past.
Anything else would simply be incompatible with the world. NO?? ??? ;D
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 22, 2015, 02:31:59 PM
There are 2 updates that are a must on a Windows 8.1 computer in order to
get the Windows Upgrade notice in your system tray. They are:
KB 2976978 and KB 3035583.

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on July 22, 2015, 04:58:08 PM
IMO, For anyone who is not tech inclined they should simply leave things alone and install whatever comes for the OS, whether it's optional or important.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 22, 2015, 05:34:21 PM

(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1437579209082-64239.png)
Windows 10 security features consumers can look forward to (https://blog.avast.com/2015/07/22/windows-10-security-features-consumers-can-look-forward-to/)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Para-Noid on July 22, 2015, 06:19:18 PM
There are 2 updates that are a must on a Windows 8.1 computer in order to
get the Windows Upgrade notice in your system tray. They are:
KB 2976978 and KB 3035583.

If you are not sure if you have these two required updates...
Search your installed updates using the search box on your "installed updates" screen.

To be sure I get mine I have the Win10 upgrade reserved. Now all I have to do is wait for the Microsoft servers to get to me.  8)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 22, 2015, 06:19:57 PM
WinPatrol alerted me of something New
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1437581789660-66833.png)
From the description, this will check the integrity of large download over the internet.
(Getting ready to download the 7/29/2016 scheduled Windows 10 Upgrade. :) )
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on July 23, 2015, 01:17:25 AM
There are 2 updates that are a must on a Windows 8.1 computer in order to
get the Windows Upgrade notice in your system tray. They are:
KB 2976978 and KB 3035583.

If you are not sure if you have these two required updates...
Search your installed updates using the search box on your "installed updates" screen.

To be sure I get mine I have the Win10 upgrade reserved. Now all I have to do is wait for the Microsoft servers to get to me.  8)

Both updates are installed on this win 8.1 computer but maybe not installed on my new win 8.1. 
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 23, 2015, 03:26:55 AM
There are 2 updates that are a must on a Windows 8.1 computer in order to
get the Windows Upgrade notice in your system tray. They are:
KB 2976978 and KB 3035583.

If you are not sure if you have these two required updates...
Search your installed updates using the search box on your "installed updates" screen.

To be sure I get mine I have the Win10 upgrade reserved. Now all I have to do is wait for the Microsoft servers to get to me.  8)

Both updates are installed on this win 8.1 computer but maybe not installed on my new win 8.1.
There are probably a lot of updates for that new computer. I know my new laptop that came with Windows 8.1
had a lot of updates. I've done all of the updates and it's ready for Windows 10 upgrade.

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on July 23, 2015, 03:43:05 AM
@bob3160

My computer is supposed to be delivered on Friday so I'm sure once I hook it up and check for windows updates I'll spend a lot of time installing all of the updates.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: mchain on July 23, 2015, 12:19:24 PM
-midnight,

You might want to look into the built-in Windows disk imaging program while you are at it.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on July 23, 2015, 12:29:36 PM
mchain,

Where do I find it?

After reading this I might not set my new computer up right away.

  http://news.softpedia.com/news/zero-day-flaws-found-in-internet-explorer-everyone-advised-to-stop-using-the-browser-487592.shtml
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: mchain on July 23, 2015, 12:44:28 PM
Good question.

Here:  http://www.pctechbytes.com/windows-8/create-system-image-windows-8-1/ (http://www.pctechbytes.com/windows-8/create-system-image-windows-8-1/)

And:  https://duckduckgo.com/?q=how+to+find+built-in+windows+8.1+disk+imaging+program (https://duckduckgo.com/?q=how+to+find+built-in+windows+8.1+disk+imaging+program)

Be sure to stick with Windows 8.1 instructions.

Here I am stuck with ol' Win 7 Home Premium 64-bit, so my answer is going to be from the Internet. 

Cheers!
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on July 23, 2015, 01:01:05 PM
Thanks for the info. Guess I'll order an external USB drive.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on July 23, 2015, 01:09:18 PM
http://accessories.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=A6898849

Would this work?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 23, 2015, 02:08:47 PM
Thanks for the info. Guess I'll order an external USB drive.
-Midnight,
This should making and using the Windows Imaging process very easy for you:
Desktop Shortcut to Image Backup in Windows 8.1
https://youtu.be/m5h9Kug5HTI (https://youtu.be/m5h9Kug5HTI)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on July 23, 2015, 04:04:02 PM
Thanks Bob...........I'll try to do that.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 23, 2015, 04:33:07 PM
Getting Your System Ready for the Windows 10 Upgrade
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1437661820534-91900.png) (https://youtu.be/d57kCz8V0Ag)        
           https://youtu.be/d57kCz8V0Ag (https://youtu.be/d57kCz8V0Ag)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: stam1na on July 23, 2015, 06:52:09 PM
What kind of webcam I need if I want to use Windows Hello face recognition/log on? Does anyone know?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Para-Noid on July 23, 2015, 09:23:52 PM
http://accessories.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=A6898849

Would this work?

Yes. I use Western Digital 2 TB external HDD from Staples.
You can also buy them at your local Wal-Mart or other big box stores.
They cost around $70 to $100 (US).
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 23, 2015, 09:57:53 PM
What kind of webcam I need if I want to use Windows Hello face recognition/log on? Does anyone know?
This can be very temperamental regardless of which webcam you use.
I ran into a problem when the amount of light differed from the original sample.
A strong password is still your best bet if you really require protection.
In my home, I'm the only person accessing the computer. I set it up to not require a password on my Desktop computer.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on July 23, 2015, 10:10:08 PM
http://accessories.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=A6898849

Would this work?
That is only an enclosure or case that you have to put a hard drive into. It does not come with one.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on July 23, 2015, 10:20:38 PM
http://accessories.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=A6898849

Would this work?
That is only an enclosure or case that you have to put a hard drive into. It does not come with one.

That's correct.
When I viewed the link it was obvious there was no Capacity stated.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on July 23, 2015, 10:59:01 PM
http://accessories.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=A6898849

Would this work?
That is only an enclosure or case that you have to put a hard drive into. It does not come with one.

That's correct.
When I viewed the link it was obvious there was no Capacity stated.

Exactly what do I need to buy.  I don't know anything about hard drives.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 23, 2015, 11:31:16 PM
http://accessories.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=A6898849 (http://accessories.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=A6898849)

Would this work?
That is only an enclosure or case that you have to put a hard drive into. It does not come with one.

That's correct.
When I viewed the link it was obvious there was no Capacity stated.

Exactly what do I need to buy.  I don't know anything about hard drives.
This should do the trick:
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1437686990636-68287.png)
http://smile.amazon.com/Elements-Portable-Hard-Drive-WDBU6Y0020BBK-NESN/dp/B00DULWSXI/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1437686629&sr=8-3&keywords=usb+3+0+external+hard+drive (http://smile.amazon.com/Elements-Portable-Hard-Drive-WDBU6Y0020BBK-NESN/dp/B00DULWSXI/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1437686629&sr=8-3&keywords=usb+3+0+external+hard+drive)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 23, 2015, 11:54:24 PM
If it is luck you need, then you seem to have plenty of that.  How old exactly is that Millennium system?  Interested to hear how this will turn out.
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1437688027686-99164.png)
                       Click here to see all the pictures (https://goo.gl/photos/TNGHm7YR7eX2HkuL9)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: mchain on July 24, 2015, 07:26:11 PM
Microsoft's upgrade app won't let GeForce GTX 980 Ti owners reserve Windows 10
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2951890/components-graphics/microsofts-upgrade-app-wont-let-geforce-gtx-980-ti-owners-reserve-windows-10.html (http://www.pcworld.com/article/2951890/components-graphics/microsofts-upgrade-app-wont-let-geforce-gtx-980-ti-owners-reserve-windows-10.html)

Yes, I realize this affects only a minute few of potential Windows 10 upgrade users, but this needs to be posted.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 25, 2015, 12:17:33 AM
Microsoft's upgrade app won't let GeForce GTX 980 Ti owners reserve Windows 10
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2951890/components-graphics/microsofts-upgrade-app-wont-let-geforce-gtx-980-ti-owners-reserve-windows-10.html (http://www.pcworld.com/article/2951890/components-graphics/microsofts-upgrade-app-wont-let-geforce-gtx-980-ti-owners-reserve-windows-10.html)

Yes, I realize this affects only a minute few of potential Windows 10 upgrade users, but this needs to be posted.
From what I've read, this will be resolved by 7/29/2015. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Coolmario88 on July 25, 2015, 08:34:09 PM
4 days until windows 10 release :-D  I really can't wait to see what's new.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Asyn on July 25, 2015, 08:38:49 PM
4 days until windows 10 release :-D  I really can't wait to see what's new.
If you did follow this thread, you should already know. ;)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Coolmario88 on July 25, 2015, 08:42:39 PM
4 days until windows 10 release :-D  I really can't wait to see what's new.
If you did follow this thread, you should already know. ;)
I have been following this thread but I mean like trying out myself instead.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on July 25, 2015, 08:44:50 PM
4 days until windows 10 release :-D  I really can't wait to see what's new.
If you did follow this thread, you should already know. ;)
I have been following this thread but I mean like trying out myself instead.

Yes it is different reading about what others have reported and taking it for a drive yourself! :P ;D
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: polonus on July 25, 2015, 08:52:49 PM
What I am not looking forward to is this MS marketing move in Windows 10, starting a new browser war over again: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2861032/microsoft-kills-eu-browser-choice-screen.html
They broke the browser choice api, so you cannot change to another browser than edge with one click.
Too complicated for the average user that won't go outside the default settings, so a worse position for alternative browsers like firefox, chrome, opera from set-up time etc. etc.
They almost certainly will get issues in Europe over this new browser war, but they hope to have "edged" the competiotion by the time they are forced again to comply to free browser choice.
Understand that Google Chrome holds a similar position on their Android OS and no one protests, they even killed good decent adblocking apps there, because of their revenue schemes.
Will there be no free browser choice in the future? It should have been real easy to give users a dual-boot OS, but licence deals blocked that possibility for the consumer.

polonus
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Asyn on July 25, 2015, 09:05:59 PM
Well, let's see. Last time they got a bloody nose in Europe. ;)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 25, 2015, 10:52:22 PM

(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1437857505424-4830.png)

(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1437857416035-55588.png)

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 26, 2015, 12:23:47 AM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1437862910864-11469.png) (https://youtu.be/gpAHKjFNgMM)
https://youtu.be/gpAHKjFNgMM (https://youtu.be/gpAHKjFNgMM)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on July 26, 2015, 05:00:18 AM
I have my new computer set up but their is no little windows icon in the system tray.  I installed 110 windows updates, thought that might show the icon but it didn't.  I wasn't planning on upgrading to win 10 anytime soon but I don't know how to reserve my copy.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on July 26, 2015, 01:28:43 PM
Could someone please tell me how I can reserve the windows 10 upgrade.  I installed 120 windows updates but that didn't make the little windows icon show up in my taskbar.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on July 26, 2015, 01:45:11 PM
Could someone please tell me how I can reserve the windows 10 upgrade.  I installed 120 windows updates but that didn't make the little windows icon show up in my taskbar.

Thank you.
It'll show up in due time, just have patience.

I removed it from one of my systems and it took 3 days before it appeared again.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on July 26, 2015, 05:35:24 PM
For those that find it hard to use the Windows 7/8 built in image function...in the case of wanting to revert after the Win10 upgrade you can use the EaseUS System GoBack Free http://www.easeus.com/system-go-back/
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on July 26, 2015, 05:40:18 PM
For those that find it hard to use the Windows 7/8 built in image function...in the case of wanting to revert after the Win10 upgrade you can use the EaseUS System GoBack Free http://www.easeus.com/system-go-back/
 

I'm curious, how would this work/effect the OS if a person has Macrium Reflect.
Is this the same type of Imaging software?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on July 26, 2015, 05:54:53 PM
It's exactly what the title states "system go back" user guide here http://www.easeus.com/tutorial/system-go-back.html

If you wanted to replicate Macrium you'd use the EaseUS Todo Backup Free...then you wouldn't need system go back ;)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on July 26, 2015, 05:57:26 PM
Thanks Craig always good to hear from you. ;D
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 26, 2015, 06:21:39 PM
It's exactly what the title states "system go back" user guide here http://www.easeus.com/tutorial/system-go-back.html (http://www.easeus.com/tutorial/system-go-back.html)

If you wanted to replicate Macrium you'd use the EaseUS Todo Backup Free...then you wouldn't need system go back ;)
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1437927997188-96667.png)
Why does it say TRIAL ???
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on July 26, 2015, 06:46:37 PM
Don't know :-\ it's listed as system go back free ???

Rejzor has tried it so he might have some answers
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on July 26, 2015, 07:12:57 PM
I'm using the free AOMEI Backupper and it works great. I like it better than the EaseUs one.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 26, 2015, 07:44:59 PM
I just can't see adding something else to the system if there is already something
built into the system that does an excellent job. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on July 26, 2015, 08:29:58 PM
Don't know :-\ it's listed as system go back free ???

Rejzor has tried it so he might have some answers

Over the years,  many free programs that I've installed and use continually have also listed as trial and stay Free after stated Trial period
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Para-Noid on July 26, 2015, 08:34:12 PM
I have read reports stating that the built-in backup in Windows doesn't always work very well.
I'm with Dch48 I have never had issues with "AOMEI Backupper". AOMEI has saved my backside
a couple of times. One advantage I like is even after doing a complete "disk backup" you have a
choice on which partition or partitions you want to restore. Or if you want to you can do incremental
backups. I don't know much about EaseUs to give an opinion.

For those interested here's the link http://www.backup-utility.com/free-backup-software.html
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: polonus on July 26, 2015, 08:38:28 PM
Hi bob3160,

Also understood that MS with Windows10 has improved the updater. Often you set up and then the updates of that set-up are being installed later. Has anything changed there?

polonus
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Coolmario88 on July 26, 2015, 08:40:59 PM
Do any of you think the partition that acer puts on their machines to go back to windows 8 (which microsoft said would be unuseable ::) ) Would windows 10 remove that partition or should i just use a old USB thing to make a backup of it (we already have one) and then delete the partition or just leave it be?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 26, 2015, 08:52:50 PM
Do any of you think the partition that acer puts on their machines to go back to windows 8 (which microsoft said would be unuseable ::) ) Would windows 10 remove that partition or should i just use a old USB thing to make a backup of it (we already have one) and then delete the partition or just leave it be?
I gave you my suggestion:
https://youtu.be/d57kCz8V0Ag (https://youtu.be/d57kCz8V0Ag)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Para-Noid on July 27, 2015, 01:39:54 AM
Could someone please tell me how I can reserve the windows 10 upgrade.  I installed 120 windows updates but that didn't make the little windows icon show up in my taskbar.

Thank you.

Check out this link it will answer some questions http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-faq?faq=edition&ocid=reserve_r_PostReserve_mod1_faq

Don't forget to make a system image/disk backup "before" installing Win10.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on July 27, 2015, 03:50:41 AM
Could someone please tell me how I can reserve the windows 10 upgrade.  I installed 120 windows updates but that didn't make the little windows icon show up in my taskbar.

Thank you.

Check out this link it will answer some questions http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-faq?faq=edition&ocid=reserve_r_PostReserve_mod1_faq

Don't forget to make a system image/disk backup "before" installing Win10.

I clicked on the link and it showed "we are sorry, the page you requested could not be found."
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on July 27, 2015, 06:12:14 AM
I clicked on the link and it showed "we are sorry, the page you requested could not be found."
The link works fine here.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on July 27, 2015, 12:44:31 PM
This is what I see when I click on the link.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: polonus on July 27, 2015, 02:16:14 PM
Hi folks, Windows 10 is leaning more and more towards the Apple concept.
You may need this Microsoft-tool to block/hide certain updates or drivers when certain updates/drivers won't function properly on your system: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3073930
This will be necessary as updates with Windows 10 now will be enrolled completely automatically.
The troubleshooter package will also work on the definite version of Windows 10, according to Ed Bott: http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-releases-tool-to-hide-or-block-unwanted-windows-10-updates/

Who is going to use this tool on his Windows 10? Anyone?

polonus
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 27, 2015, 02:23:36 PM
Hi folks, Windows 10 is leaning more and more towards the Apple concept.
You may need this Microsoft-tool to block/hide certain updates or drivers when certain updates/drivers won't function properly on your system: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3073930 (https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3073930)
This will be necessary as updates with Windows 10 now will be enrolled completely automatically.
The troubleshooter package will also work on the definite version of Windows 10, according to Ed Bott: http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-releases-tool-to-hide-or-block-unwanted-windows-10-updates/ (http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-releases-tool-to-hide-or-block-unwanted-windows-10-updates/)

Who is going to use this tool on his Windows 10? Anyone?

polonus
I'd rather follow this advice:
"By default, System Restore is turned off. If you re-enable this feature,
Windows resumes the practice of automatically creating a restore point
before installing each new batch of patches from Windows Update,
making it easier to roll back an entire batch of updates while you investigate which one is troublesome."

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Hermie on July 27, 2015, 02:29:35 PM
Hi there, will Microsoft auto update a new driver for the Nvidia graphics card, which my pc has aboard.

After updating from W8.1 > W10, will my wifi printer and wifi scanner work properly?

Kind regards, Hermie

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 27, 2015, 02:31:59 PM
Hi there, will Microsoft auto update a new driver for the Nvidia graphics card, which my pc has aboard.

After updating from W8.1 > W10, will my wifi printer and wifi scanner work properly?

Kind regards, Hermie
I updated all my drivers before upgrading.
My Epson WIFI printer works fine on Windows 10.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Hermie on July 27, 2015, 02:36:46 PM
Do I have to update ALL drivers before upgrading?
I assume that W10 will do the job, right?

Kind regards, Hermie
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on July 27, 2015, 03:14:02 PM
I still don't have the little windows icon yet.  I check for win updates everyday but they are all optional.  If I should decide to install win 10 in a few months how could I?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: polonus on July 27, 2015, 03:44:36 PM
Hi -midnight,

I wonder whether there are computers that won't upgrade because they cannot handle the Windows10 requisitions.
How about fast silent ssd driven computers? I haven't seen the windows 10 update icon yet on mine either, allthough I got my new Windows 8.1 computer a week ago.

polonus
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on July 27, 2015, 03:57:31 PM
Hi polonus,

This new win 8.1 computer is exactly like my other win 8.1.  The other one showed the win 10 icon and so does my win 7.  When I ordered this new one it showed free upgrade to win 10 on July 29.

I don't know whether or not I have all of the necessary win updates installed in order to upgrade.  I installed 120 win updates on the day this computer was set up so I would think they would have included the ones needed to upgrade to win 10,

-midnight
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: polonus on July 27, 2015, 04:12:52 PM
Well, -midnight, I would not worry too much, as they would start from June 29th henceon and to cover all these upgrades surely will take their servers some time. As I said in an earlier posting I read that it is better to wait a while to see how the new windows is being accepted, there are now loads of users crying the new Windows 10 updates resulting in BSODs via a lousy Nvidia back-up resulting in a Blue Screen of Death! There are more reasons to continue to work Win 8.1 and even Vista (supported as to 2017) and you can wait for the free update until later in the year and the bugs has shown.
Better wait for Windows 10 service pack 1 - I am joking, but better wait a bit.
9 Reasons to wait a bit
1. - look you meet the specifications: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-specifications
2. You can upgrade one year long.
3. You are on Windows 7.
4. You use the Win 7 desktop gadgets.
5. From Windows Vista you will still have years of full support.
6. You use smart files with OneDrive.
7. You use old peripherals.
8. You like Windows Media Center.
9. You do not like to experience the growing pains of Windows 10.

And another reason, we aren't all bob3160's that rush into using new things right away. ;)  :)

polonus
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on July 27, 2015, 04:15:57 PM
I still don't have the little windows icon yet.  I check for win updates everyday but they are all optional.  If I should decide to install win 10 in a few months how could I?
Like I said previously " patience " you only asked yesterday.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on July 27, 2015, 04:37:10 PM
polonus...........I installed most of my win updates on July 24 and a few more on the 25th.

I wasn't planning on doing the win 10 upgrade for several month's.  I definitely don't want to upgrade on the day it's released as I'm not tech savy and should I have any problems with win 10 I wouldn't know how to fix them.

I'll just wait and watch.

-midnight
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: abruptum on July 27, 2015, 06:39:03 PM
Microsoft releases tool to block Windows 10 updates

  http://www.ghacks.net/2015/07/27/microsoft-releases-tool-to-block-windows-10-updates/
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: polonus on July 27, 2015, 06:44:43 PM
AV firms warn one should be ready for Windows 10 where your AV software is concerned and also Avast does so:
https://blog.avast.com/2015/06/03/latest-versions-of-avast-compatible-with-windows-10/

polonus
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on July 27, 2015, 08:29:08 PM
I just can't see adding something else to the system if there is already something
built into the system that does an excellent job. :)
But, that's the point. The 3rd party defraggers , partition managers, and imaging programs do a better job and almost always do it faster. For instance, I had to download and use the free version of Paragon to delete a partition on a hard drive because Disk Management in Windows 8.1 wouldn't do it. Disk management usually works fine but in this case, it wouldn't. The built in imaging program works but is painfully slow just like the defrag program always has been. The third party programs wouldn't exist if the built in ones were excellent. You could even add Avast! into the discussion because it obviously does a better job than Defender.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: polonus on July 27, 2015, 09:19:07 PM
Hi Dch48,

Defender comes back in action when you update Avast and then only before you re-start the program.
I do not know whether the MS Free Malware Removal Tool runs in the backhround while Avast is installed?
Bitdefender's 60 sec scanning tool does not conflict with Avast either as I found, but who needs that?

polonus
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 28, 2015, 04:55:19 AM
@ Dch48,
Your system, your choice. :)  I've never had a problem using what's already installed. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on July 28, 2015, 12:57:46 PM
Not happy about this.
 
Because you’ve reserved, Windows will automatically take care of the download in advance. Then you’ll get a notification when your upgrade is ready to install. That way you can start using Windows 10 immediately – or schedule a time to install that’s convenient for you. If you have any more questions, check out the upgrade FAQ.

   
   
 
 
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 28, 2015, 02:20:41 PM
Not happy about this.
 
Because you’ve reserved, Windows will automatically take care of the download in advance. Then you’ll get a notification when your upgrade is ready to install. That way you can start using Windows 10 immediately – or schedule a time to install that’s convenient for you. If you have any more questions, check out the upgrade FAQ.
Why aren't you happy ? Would you prefer to wait hours for the upgrade to download you're finally ready ???


   
   
 
 
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 28, 2015, 02:21:47 PM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1438085856446-72093.png)


(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1438086078518-43310.png)


Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 28, 2015, 02:56:01 PM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1438088031880-61695.png) (https://youtu.be/vYVU9DogfaY)
https://youtu.be/vYVU9DogfaY (https://youtu.be/vYVU9DogfaY)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on July 28, 2015, 04:54:58 PM
Not happy about this.
 
Because you’ve reserved, Windows will automatically take care of the download in advance. Then you’ll get a notification when your upgrade is ready to install. That way you can start using Windows 10 immediately – or schedule a time to install that’s convenient for you. If you have any more questions, check out the upgrade FAQ.
Why aren't you happy ? Would you prefer to wait hours for the upgrade to download you're finally ready ???


   
   
 
 
I don't plan on installing win 10 for several months.  I just don't feel comfortable having it downloaded.  Will it be downloaded on July 29?  It won't install win 10 on the 2nd Tuesday in August?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on July 28, 2015, 05:04:26 PM
ALL the information has been provided/posted, simply read the Topic.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on July 28, 2015, 05:26:55 PM
I did and also watched bob3160's video.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on July 28, 2015, 06:14:35 PM
Not happy about this.
 
Because you’ve reserved, Windows will automatically take care of the download in advance. Then you’ll get a notification when your upgrade is ready to install. That way you can start using Windows 10 immediately – or schedule a time to install that’s convenient for you. If you have any more questions, check out the upgrade FAQ.

   
   
 
 
If you don't plan to upgrade as soon as you can, cancel the reservation. You will still be able to get the upgrade for free at any time up to July 29, 2016 and it will not download until you choose to do it.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on July 28, 2015, 06:19:24 PM
Not happy about this.
 
Because you’ve reserved, Windows will automatically take care of the download in advance. Then you’ll get a notification when your upgrade is ready to install. That way you can start using Windows 10 immediately – or schedule a time to install that’s convenient for you. If you have any more questions, check out the upgrade FAQ.

   
   
 
 
If you don't plan to upgrade as soon as you can, cancel the reservation. You will still be able to get the upgrade for free at any time up to July 29, 2016 and it will not download until you choose to do it.

I know I read that several times in this topic and links provided by Bob
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: mchain on July 28, 2015, 06:57:42 PM
A little more detail on what to expect in the coming days:
http://www.theverge.com/2015/7/28/9055065/windows-10-pre-download-windows-7-windows-8-pcs (http://www.theverge.com/2015/7/28/9055065/windows-10-pre-download-windows-7-windows-8-pcs)
http://www.theverge.com/2015/7/27/9036907/microsoft-windows-10-release-date-download-preview (http://www.theverge.com/2015/7/27/9036907/microsoft-windows-10-release-date-download-preview)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: essexboy on July 28, 2015, 07:18:00 PM
Some already have most of windows 10 downloaded in the background

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on July 28, 2015, 10:13:02 PM
@Dch48

I did cancel my reservation but might reserve again later this year.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Coolmario88 on July 28, 2015, 10:18:38 PM
Some already have most of windows 10 downloaded in the background
My dad's desktop machine has windows 10 downloading in the background as well.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on July 29, 2015, 12:25:24 AM
Some already have most of windows 10 downloaded in the background
My dad's desktop machine has windows 10 downloading in the background as well.

Is he living in the world where it is July 29th. already? ;D
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: polonus on July 29, 2015, 12:55:27 AM
Now users are advised not to install Windows 10 a la default but be aware and pay ample attention to risky privacy settings. Go to Privacy Settings via Start > Settings > Privacy to change the default settings, please.

Standard all txt and spoken txt goes directly to Redmond so the personal assistent  MicrosoftContana could know to learn you better.
Also the content of your address list is uploaded to MS. Every visited webpage will be known to MS to be checked by SmartScreen Technology.
Windows 10 will let you share your Wifi passwords with friends from social networks.
Every program and app can read out your personal ad-ID.
The new browser Edge is going to show you personalized ads.
All your location history is continuously saved by the PC. The apps you will install will directly recognize who you are /name-picture.
So why there is no-one here in this thread who has questioned why Windows 10 is handed out completely free? MS certainly wants you and your new OS to be the MS and Bing product.
Not convinced yet, then read here:  http://articles.forensicfocus.com/2015/07/27/project-spartan-forensics/

polonus
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 29, 2015, 03:04:08 AM
Now users are advised not to install Windows 10 a la default but be aware and pay ample attention to risky privacy settings. Go to Privacy Settings via Start > Settings > Privacy to change the default settings, please.

Standard all txt and spoken txt goes directly to Redmond so the personal assistent  MicrosoftContana could know to learn you better.
Also the content of your address list is uploaded to MS. Every visited webpage will be known to MS to be checked by SmartScreen Technology.
Windows 10 will let you share your Wifi passwords with friends from social networks.
Every program and app can read out your personal ad-ID.
The new browser Edge is going to show you personalized ads.
All your location history is continuously saved by the PC. The apps you will install will directly recognize who you are /name-picture.
So why there is no-one here in this thread who has questioned why Windows 10 is handed out completely free? MS certainly wants you and your new OS to be the MS and Bing product.
Not convinced yet, then read here:  http://articles.forensicfocus.com/2015/07/27/project-spartan-forensics/ (http://articles.forensicfocus.com/2015/07/27/project-spartan-forensics/)

polonus
I have windows 10 Pro installed on two systems. Neither of them has Bing as the search provider and Chrome is my default browser.
Never use the default options to install ANYTHING. This includes you OS. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Hermie on July 29, 2015, 10:06:38 AM
Acc. to computeridee.nl:
MS is stiill working on W10 to complete
The standard browser does NOT support add-ons/plugins
Media center is NOT aboard
Support W7 till 2025
Support W8 till 2028

How to test W10 in a virtual machine? 

Best regards, Hermie

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 29, 2015, 11:16:57 AM
Acc. to computeridee.nl:
MS is stiill working on W10 to complete
The standard browser does NOT support add-ons/plugins
Media center is NOT aboard
Support W7 till 2025
Support W8 till 2028

How to test W10 in a virtual machine? 

Best regards, Hermie
All the items you list have already been pointed out by MS.
You don't need to use Edge as your browser. Simply change your browser.
Here's how: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpAHKjFNgMM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpAHKjFNgMM)
Some of us have tested Windows 10 since before the first preview release. :)
Read through this topic to get your answers. That's why it's here. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Hermie on July 29, 2015, 11:29:13 AM
@Bob3160: Thanks for your reply.
What you advise: downloading/installing W10 NOW or LATER?

Kind regards, Hermie
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 29, 2015, 11:42:39 AM
@Bob3160: Thanks for your reply.
What you advise: downloading/installing W10 NOW or LATER?

Kind regards, Hermie
Hermie,
It's a decision that's up to you. I like to be first so I've already converted 2 computers to Windows 10 when the RTM build was released (10240)
Since there is no rush, you've got a whole year to do it, you may want to wait and let the early birds work out the kinks. :)
Yojur computer, your choice. :)

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Hermie on July 29, 2015, 12:04:41 PM
Thanks @Bob3160.
I like to be an early adapter of W10.
But if it does NOT run 100% on my pc is there a rescue button to go back to W8.1 and downlaod/install W10 later?

Kind regards, Hermie
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 29, 2015, 12:13:50 PM
Thanks @Bob3160.
I like to be an early adapter of W10.
But if it does NOT run 100% on my pc is there a rescue button to go back to W8.1 and downlaod/install W10 later?

Kind regards, Hermie
NO which is why I gave you the link to the video.
If you don't want to read this entire thread, at least look at the last 3 pages. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on July 29, 2015, 01:05:51 PM
Now users are advised not to install Windows 10 a la default but be aware and pay ample attention to risky privacy settings. Go to Privacy Settings via Start > Settings > Privacy to change the default settings, please.

Standard all txt and spoken txt goes directly to Redmond so the personal assistent  MicrosoftContana could know to learn you better.
Also the content of your address list is uploaded to MS. Every visited webpage will be known to MS to be checked by SmartScreen Technology.
Windows 10 will let you share your Wifi passwords with friends from social networks.
Every program and app can read out your personal ad-ID.
The new browser Edge is going to show you personalized ads.
All your location history is continuously saved by the PC. The apps you will install will directly recognize who you are /name-picture.
So why there is no-one here in this thread who has questioned why Windows 10 is handed out completely free? MS certainly wants you and your new OS to be the MS and Bing product.
Not convinced yet, then read here:  http://articles.forensicfocus.com/2015/07/27/project-spartan-forensics/ (http://articles.forensicfocus.com/2015/07/27/project-spartan-forensics/)

polonus
I have windows 10 Pro installed on two systems. Neither of them has Bing as the search provider and Chrome is my default browser.
Never use the default options to install ANYTHING. This includes you OS. :)

I read somewhere that people who are using win 7 and win 8.1 home edition didn't have the option to choose a different browser
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 29, 2015, 01:24:50 PM
snip

I read somewhere that people who are using win 7 and win 8.1 home edition didn't have the option to choose a different browser
That pertained strictly to this addition: "Free "Windows 10 Home with Bing" Edition" Even on that edition, you may still use an alternate browser but you can't make that browser the default.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Hermie on July 29, 2015, 01:33:23 PM
@Bob3160: I have watched the youtube video a couple of times, I stick to chrome.
How long does it take to download and install W10 on pc?
Speed down 53,44 Mbps, up 58,04 Mbps.
PC: i7, 8gb ram, nvidia graphics card.

Best, Hermie
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 29, 2015, 01:37:09 PM
@Bob3160: I have watched the youtube video a couple of times, I stick to chrome.
How long does it take to download and install W10 on pc?
Speed down 53,44 Mbps, up 58,04 Mbps.
PC: i7, 8gb ram, nvidia graphics card.

Best, Hermie
It varies from computer to computer. Set aside a few hours if you need to create the media and then do the install.
I haven't had a system actually upgrade using the Get Windows 10 method.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on July 29, 2015, 01:38:19 PM
Both of my win 8.1 and win 7 computers are the home edition's using Firefox as the default browser.   Can I upgrade to pro edition or would I have to buy new ones? 
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 29, 2015, 02:00:03 PM
Both of my win 8.1 and win 7 computers are the home edition's using Firefox as the default browser.   Can I upgrade to pro edition or would I have to buy new ones?
You can upgrade to the Home Edition for free and continue to use your Firefox as the default browser bt simply making the change after the upgrade has completed.
(See the video earlier in this thread)
If you want to upgrade to Pro, you'll need to purchase a license from MS.
You don't have the version that's restricted from changing the default browser. (Re-read my prior post.) :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: polonus on July 29, 2015, 02:39:33 PM
If windows 10 is going to copy chrome OS in many privacy aspects, then I think a chromebook would be leaner and meaner.
If the chrome OS would allow fashionable adblocking, the choice would be obvious. Chrome notebooks are ever so polular in Europe.
What are the differences actually between the two systems, and then why it is that not more youngsters will leave for linux where they own and decide on the OS and not the other way around  :o. Windows is addictive  ;D and not a lot of people can/will get away from it,
they all fear the transition. As I said with better privacy settings and adblocking choice Chrome would be the preferabl OS for me.

polonus

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 29, 2015, 02:47:08 PM
If windows 10 is going to copy chrome OS in many privacy aspects, then I think a chromebook would be leaner and meaner.
If the chrome OS would allow fashionable adblocking, the choice would be obvious. Chrome notebooks are ever so polular in Europe.
What are the differences actually between the two systems, and then why it is that not more youngsters will leave for linux where they own and decide on the OS and not the other way around  :o . Windows is addictive  ;D and not a lot of people can/will get away from it,
they all fear the transition. As I said with better privacy settings and adblocking choice Chrome would be the preferabl OS for me.

polonus
But that's a topic for a different discussion. This topic is all about Windows 10. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Hermie on July 29, 2015, 02:55:58 PM
@Bob3160: Which edition to select: W10, W10KN, W10N or W10 single language?

Off-topic: I got a chromebook, it does the job very well.

Best regards, Hermie
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 29, 2015, 02:59:49 PM
@Bob3160: Which edition to select: W10, W10KN, W10N or W10 single language?

Off-topic: I got a chromebook, it does the job very well.

Best regards, Hermie
Unless you want more than one language, W10 single language.
This a again is a user choice look up what the others version are and the answer should be simple. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: polonus on July 29, 2015, 03:06:56 PM
Hi bob3160,

Yes and we can only properly discuss Windows 10 if we compare it to what else there is being positioned in the market.

I just sitting on a pile of magazines where I read about some handy step by step plan to migrate to Windows 10.
 People on a "mini laptop" should wait or choose for another OS.
What the common user should be aware of?

1. How to install the upgrades.
2. Check on system demands.
3. Check peripherals and apps (printer, system software).
4. See what is running fine via the Compat Center.
5. Check support.
6. Cleanse software (delete certain incompatible proggies).
7. Take your original  folders, documents onto an external hard disk or pendrive, so you have all that was on the local machine.
8. Run CCleaner.
9, Make a list of all your licence-keys that the previous OS had.
10. Make system back-up. Minimal 16 GB.
11. Create a Microsoft account.
12. You are ready for take-of, so start.
13. Keep your old OS install  in a folder, called Windows.old. Reckon with minimal 15 GB.
14. Start - Clean-up Disk for previous Windows-install folders and Temp ones.

polonus
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Hermie on July 29, 2015, 05:53:54 PM
@Polonus thanks, yip, we need step for step instructions for "dummies" on how to upgrading to W10.

Interesting:
Just wonder, was W10 completely rewritten by MS?
Which program language was used?
Does W10 support multicore processors and graphic cards?

Kind regards, Hermie

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 29, 2015, 06:11:28 PM
@Polonus thanks, yip, we need step for step instructions for "dummies" on how to upgrading to W10.

Interesting:
Just wonder, was W10 completely rewritten by MS?
Which program language was used?
Does W10 support multicore processors and graphic cards?

Kind regards, Hermie
Please do some reading on your own. All of these questions have already been given. Most of them in this thread.

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: polonus on July 29, 2015, 06:12:56 PM
Hi Hermie,

Never there existed a Windows OS that was re-written from scratch. It always has been built with new layers on old layers, and a lot of tweaking has been taken away from end-users. Think of what one could do in the past with your old DOS-malnual in hand? Even their new browser, edge, has lots of old IE code. Remember the days of the New-York hired-in spaghetti coders that had to help Redmond meet some timeline. Propriety code is almost entirely written in C, C++, and C# for Windows. Some areas of code are hand tuned/hand written assembly.

pol
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Hermie on July 29, 2015, 06:39:19 PM
Thanks @Pol for replying.

Off-topic:
Not rewritten from scratch > software is not set up to do the job as fast as possible.
Money rules the world.
That's why modern computers are still "slow".

Best regards, Hermie
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: polonus on July 29, 2015, 06:45:24 PM
Well it not only seems, that bob3160 is Windows10 compatible  ;), avast now also is:
http://www.av-comparatives.org/windows-10-approved-products/
Vendor          Product
Avast            Free Antivirus 10.3.2223

pol

P.S. I see DrWeb´s has not met qualifications yet.  :( But on their page they say for Win 10, etc. etc.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Coolmario88 on July 29, 2015, 07:00:34 PM
I updated and gateway hasn't released any updated drivers for this laptop yet. I did notice a few issues like start menu wouldn't show up bbut i fixed it by going into tablet mode and out of it, and such. Has anybody else noticed with MS Edge if you go to whatbrowser.org it says chrome 42
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on July 29, 2015, 07:11:50 PM
snip

I read somewhere that people who are using win 7 and win 8.1 home edition didn't have the option to choose a different browser
That pertained strictly to this addition: "Free "Windows 10 Home with Bing" Edition" Even on that edition, you may still use an alternate browser but you can't make that browser the default.

Since I can't make Firefox my default browser I won't be ugrading to win 10.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Para-Noid on July 29, 2015, 07:26:24 PM
snip

I read somewhere that people who are using win 7 and win 8.1 home edition didn't have the option to choose a different browser
That pertained strictly to this addition: "Free "Windows 10 Home with Bing" Edition" Even on that edition, you may still use an alternate browser but you can't make that browser the default.

Since I can't make Firefox my default browser I won't be ugrading to win 10.

After the upgrade got to "default programs" and change your default browser to which ever one you desire.
People I know there are still some questions to be answered but...don't make a mountain out of a molehill.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on July 29, 2015, 07:34:09 PM
I'll be looking for a place to buy a win 10 desktop so I won't have to do the upgrade. 
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 29, 2015, 08:07:21 PM
snip

I read somewhere that people who are using win 7 and win 8.1 home edition didn't have the option to choose a different browser
That pertained strictly to this addition: "Free "Windows 10 Home with Bing" Edition" Even on that edition, you may still use an alternate browser but you can't make that browser the default.

Since I can't make Firefox my default browser I won't be ugrading to win 10.
You need to read more carefully. Don't jump to conclusions. Actually read what was written. The version of Windows 8 that you have, does allow you to pick your own default browser.
I even posted a video that showed you exactly how to do it. (I know, I can't make you watch it. :) )
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on July 29, 2015, 08:15:58 PM
I have read every post in this topic, also watched your video  I have win 8.1 not win 8.  It would be much easier for me to buy a computer with win 10 installed.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Coolmario88 on July 29, 2015, 08:21:52 PM
Is the brightness set by the graphics card driver or by windows 10 itself? By default it has it set by 40%.. wasn't it a little brighter in windows 8.1? I know easy to make it brighter  ;D

Also there is a battery saver mode now..
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 29, 2015, 08:34:12 PM
I have read every post in this topic, also watched your video  I have win 8.1 not win 8.  It would be much easier for me to buy a computer with win 10 installed.
You may send me the Windows 8.1 computer that you don't want to upgrade.
An upgrade is virtually the same as installing a very large update like SP 1 on Windows 8
(Windows 8.1 is still Windows 8 it's just been updated.)


Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Hermie on July 29, 2015, 08:49:48 PM
@Midnight: how about to purchase a chromebook? Always up to date, silent, fast, low price, no issues with drivers etc. (off-topic)

Question:
Do I have to delete all third party programs before upgrading?

Kind regards, Hermie
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 29, 2015, 08:58:38 PM
@Midnight: how about to purchase a chromebook? Always up to date, silent, fast, low price, no issues with drivers etc. (off-topic)

Question:
Do I have to delete all third party programs before upgrading?

Kind regards, Hermie
If you're doing a clean install that that's what happens. If you're upgrading, you get to keep your programs, etc
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Hermie on July 29, 2015, 09:02:43 PM
Thanks @Bob3160, everything clear to me so far.

Kind regards, Hermie
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Coolmario88 on July 29, 2015, 09:34:27 PM
Guys if gateway website says my model isn't a compatible model but yet I got it installed.. Should it be worried?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on July 29, 2015, 09:44:25 PM
I haven't gotten any download but the "Get Windows 10" icon has disappeared from my system tray. I guess that's because I already reserved my copy a while ago. It just vanished today
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Pondus on July 29, 2015, 10:16:42 PM
Microsoft's Windows 10 upgrade counter shows install rate of 16 per second
http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft039s-windows-10-upgrade-counter-shows-install-rate-of-16-per-scond

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: essexboy on July 29, 2015, 10:27:51 PM
Up and running on my main system now ... Actually my only one :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 30, 2015, 12:36:00 AM

(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1438209287117-50730.png) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzz-rIx_WvI)
Windows 10 - What to do when things go Wrong - (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzz-rIx_WvI)

(My main system upgraded without a hitch. I actually produced this video on
that upgraded Windows 10 system. :) )
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 30, 2015, 01:00:38 AM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1438210631174-91490.png)
Off by default to turn on, Search for "Create a Restore Point"
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Charyb on July 30, 2015, 01:43:03 AM
I haven't received the download yet, but I just received an email from Windows Insider where to download it.

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Charyb on July 30, 2015, 01:49:42 AM

(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1438209287117-50730.png) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzz-rIx_WvI)
Windows 10 - What to do when things go Wrong - (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzz-rIx_WvI)

(My main system upgraded without a hitch. I actually produced this video on
that upgraded Windows 10 system. :) )


Is there any indication of what may have gone wrong?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on July 30, 2015, 02:23:00 AM
This is how the "notification" is presented once all is ready to go.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on July 30, 2015, 05:04:52 AM
I started the Upgrade process and after 1 hour and 15 minutes I'm posting this using MS Edge.
Now just a matter of settling in and getting to know her :-)
Smilies here on the forum don't seem to work with MS Edge??
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Coolmario88 on July 30, 2015, 05:46:15 AM
I started the Upgrade process and after 1 hour and 15 minutes I'm posting this using MS Edge.
Now just a matter of settling in and getting to know her :-)
Smilies here on the forum don't seem to work with MS Edge??
The smilies aren't working here either or any of the buttons like bold, and such.. (https://forum.avast.com/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Rednose on July 30, 2015, 10:52:23 AM
Windows 10 : how your personal data is (ab)used.

https://edri.org/microsofts-new-small-print-how-your-personal-data-abused

Greetz, Red.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on July 30, 2015, 10:55:48 AM
If you want to get away from abuse or if you dont want any data collection then throw your PC out of the window :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: polonus on July 30, 2015, 11:22:21 AM
Hi Rednose & Steven Winderlich,

Why one thinks it is that Windows 10 is offered as a free update then? Answer that basic question and you know some of the answers.

Throwing your computer or smartphone out of the window is no option of course. We see it is an opt-out situation only, so all that stay with the default settings will have these new privacy issues. We know the modern trends and MS is following the market of to-day - see what software bundlers do everyday.

For me the most annoying part is that the new technology will make it harder and harder to block personalised ads, but it isn't as bad yet as on a Google Chrome OS where you cannot use a decent adblocker even for your own protection against malvertising, and that is a real threat. When MS decides to go the same way as Google does then they are certainly crossing a line for me - they will hand in our  security for their marketing model by selling insecurities as "features or benefits" & "awesome user friendliness". We always had this situation, this is nothing new in this world, only the technological means make it so much harder to circumvent.

polonus
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Asyn on July 30, 2015, 11:28:39 AM
When MS decides to go the same way as Google does then they are certainly crossing a line for me - they will hand in our  security for their marketing model by selling insecurities as "features or benefits" & "awesome user friendliness".
Agreed Pol, in that case I'll be off to Linux.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Rednose on July 30, 2015, 11:34:45 AM
When MS decides to go the same way as Google does then they are certainly crossing a line for me - they will hand in our  security for their marketing model by selling insecurities as "features or benefits" & "awesome user friendliness".
Agreed Pol, in that case I'll be off to Linux.

It's the same for me :)

Greetz, Red.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on July 30, 2015, 12:48:35 PM
Did this updates fail because I canceled my reservation or was wind 10 going to be installed automatically?

See screenshow.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: polonus on July 30, 2015, 01:23:09 PM
The first security updates to the brand new Windows 10 also have been applied. Here we mean MS15-074 and MS15-078. Resp. https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/security/MS15-074  &  https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/security/MS15-078
It could have been that this caused your hick-ups, -midnight.  :D
Oh, and disable flash in Edge!

polonus
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on July 30, 2015, 02:01:56 PM
Automatically tried to install today, July 30 but failed.

I ccan't disable flash in Edge because I don't have win 10 installed.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: GIOVANNI39 on July 30, 2015, 03:55:43 PM
Hi Friends. If you are eager to get Windows 10 and don't want to wait till christmas, I strongly suggest you Google in "install windows 10" to land up on the microsoft web site were you can download the proper iso image (32 or 64 bits) to burn a DVD for upgrading. If you want to save your applications and personnal files, just open the pc, put in the DVD, plug the internet wire, and click on the iso. Took me about 4 hours to install on a up-to-date win 8.1 laptop and...20 hrs to find the way to burn the file. Personnaly, it worked from Ubuntu. Warn you some drivers are still to be worked on. See how they go, if you loose some functionality like with my touchpad on my desktop were I couldn't scroll anymore, just roll back to the last one driver you had. I think going to Windows 10 is a move  that is the way to go because of the extended support for example!
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: jim131 on July 30, 2015, 04:04:54 PM
Since installing Windows 10 I've been unable to connect to any foreign or domestic VPN through SecureLine VPN. Anyone have a clue as to why this is no longer functional?  Thanks.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: GIOVANNI39 on July 30, 2015, 04:16:45 PM
Since installing Windows 10 I've been unable to connect to any foreign or domestic VPN through SecureLine VPN. Anyone have a clue as to why this is no longer functional?  Thanks.
Yes, sorry, with my touchpad, I was talking of rolling back to the old drivers. The new ones are often still in the working stage and don't work 100%!!!
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 30, 2015, 04:56:00 PM
Since installing Windows 10 I've been unable to connect to any foreign or domestic VPN through SecureLine VPN. Anyone have a clue as to why this is no longer functional?  Thanks.
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1438268061605-6153.png)
I'm running windows 10 Pro and as you can see Avast's SecureLine VPN works just fine.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 30, 2015, 04:59:00 PM
If you have a problem with Windows 10, Please start your Own Topic
(Leave this topic for announcements and tips about Windows 10)
THANKS :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on July 30, 2015, 05:13:02 PM
Hi Friends. If you are eager to get Windows 10 and don't want to wait till christmas, I strongly suggest you Google in "install windows 10" to land up on the microsoft web site were you can download the proper iso image (32 or 64 bits) to burn a DVD for upgrading. If you want to save your applications and personnal files, just open the pc, put in the DVD, plug the internet wire, and click on the iso. Took me about 4 hours to install on a up-to-date win 8.1 laptop and...20 hrs to find the way to burn the file. Personnaly, it worked from Ubuntu. Warn you some drivers are still to be worked on. See how they go, if you loose some functionality like with my touchpad on my desktop were I couldn't scroll anymore, just roll back to the last one driver you had. I think going to Windows 10 is a move  that is the way to go because of the extended support for example!
I personally had a Microsoft tech explain to me today that any iso's for win 10 on their website are tech previews and Microsoft had not yet released any iso's for the final release, if you install via one of those iso's it'll be revoked within the year.

I was going to use one of the iso's as the upgrade screwed my system so bad that even flashing an earlier image and numerous fixes failed to fix the problem to which I was left with the choice of letting a Microsoft tech take control of my system for 2 hours to fix the issue, it was this tech who instructed me not to use any Win 10 iso...even the ones on the Microsoft website.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on July 30, 2015, 05:17:13 PM
Will the people who don't install win 10 still get the 2nd Tuesday updates?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: abruptum on July 30, 2015, 05:17:26 PM
Windows 10 and Privacy

  http://www.ghacks.net/2015/07/30/windows-10-and-privacy/
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on July 30, 2015, 05:41:46 PM
I came across this in Canada, I think due diligence and persistence is the ticket.
http://youradchoices.ca/ (http://youradchoices.ca/)

By the way I had to switch to FF to post due to Buttons/Insert Hyperlink etc on this forum is not supported in MS EDGE :-\
All works as expected on MBAM forum with Smiles and MS edge.

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 30, 2015, 06:02:56 PM
Hi Friends. If you are eager to get Windows 10 and don't want to wait till christmas, I strongly suggest you Google in "install windows 10" to land up on the microsoft web site were you can download the proper iso image (32 or 64 bits) to burn a DVD for upgrading. If you want to save your applications and personnal files, just open the pc, put in the DVD, plug the internet wire, and click on the iso. Took me about 4 hours to install on a up-to-date win 8.1 laptop and...20 hrs to find the way to burn the file. Personnaly, it worked from Ubuntu. Warn you some drivers are still to be worked on. See how they go, if you loose some functionality like with my touchpad on my desktop were I couldn't scroll anymore, just roll back to the last one driver you had. I think going to Windows 10 is a move  that is the way to go because of the extended support for example!
I personally had a Microsoft tech explain to me today that any iso's for win 10 on their website are tech previews and Microsoft had not yet released any iso's for the final release, if you install via one of those iso's it'll be revoked within the year.

I was going to use one of the iso's as the upgrade screwed my system so bad that even flashing an earlier image and numerous fixes failed to fix the problem to which I was left with the choice of letting a Microsoft tech take control of my system for 2 hours to fix the issue, it was this tech who instructed me not to use any Win 10 iso...even the ones on the Microsoft website.


What you should be using is the Windows Media Creation Tool
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1438271430253-24900.png)


https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10)
Make sure that your current Language Selection matches the language currently used.
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1438271849560-13724.png)
Please start your own topic if you have a question. It's impossible to have one topic for both tips and problem solving.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on July 30, 2015, 06:04:49 PM
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/preview-faq?ocid=client_wu

This is the win 10 update that has tried to install on my win 8.1 and win 7 computers.  No wonder it failed 8 times.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: polonus on July 30, 2015, 06:29:17 PM
@abruptum,

Some of the info Windows 10 gathers is just for reasons of end-user security.
a - Why info is gathered (because it is needed to let Windows 10 function properly).
b - because certain functionality is not working properly (unless that info is being gathered).
c - When you do not want your surf history known, you cannot get protection against malicious sites.
d - When you do not want your apps info being transfered, you cannot have protection against malicious or insecure apps.

So the privacy picture is not as black and white as some like to present it.

polonus
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Pondus on July 30, 2015, 06:39:31 PM
If you want to get away from abuse or if you dont want any data collection then throw your PC out of the window :)
remeber to wipe the HDD first   ;D



Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on July 30, 2015, 07:27:17 PM
What you should be using is the Windows Media Creation Tool
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1438271430253-24900.png)
That the tool I used Bob, I even directed the tech to the same tool and explained the iso download option provided through the tool to which he told me there has been a mistake and the iso option shouldn't be there as a final release iso has not yet been provided.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: mchain on July 30, 2015, 07:30:22 PM
Another reason to wait a bit, unfortunately.  Sorry you've had some serious issues.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on July 30, 2015, 07:34:25 PM
Another reason to wait a bit, unfortunately.  Sorry you've had some serious issues.
Not to worry, I left it in the hands of the tech and he set everything up nicely :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: GIOVANNI39 on July 30, 2015, 08:04:22 PM
Hi Friends. If you are eager to get Windows 10 and don't want to wait till christmas, I strongly suggest you Google in "install windows 10" to land up on the microsoft web site were you can download the proper iso image (32 or 64 bits) to burn a DVD for upgrading. If you want to save your applications and personnal files, just open the pc, put in the DVD, plug the internet wire, and click on the iso. Took me about 4 hours to install on a up-to-date win 8.1 laptop and...20 hrs to find the way to burn the file. Personnaly, it worked from Ubuntu. Warn you some drivers are still to be worked on. See how they go, if you loose some functionality like with my touchpad on my desktop were I couldn't scroll anymore, just roll back to the last one driver you had. I think going to Windows 10 is a move  that is the way to go because of the extended support for example!
I personally had a Microsoft tech explain to me today that any iso's for win 10 on their website are tech previews and Microsoft had not yet released any iso's for the final release, if you install via one of those iso's it'll be revoked within the year.

I was going to use one of the iso's as the upgrade screwed my system so bad that even flashing an earlier image and numerous fixes failed to fix the problem to which I was left with the choice of letting a Microsoft tech take control of my system for 2 hours to fix the issue, it was this tech who instructed me not to use any Win 10 iso...even the ones on the Microsoft website.
I dowloaded from there:https://www.microsoft.com/fr-fr/software-download/windows10 (https://www.microsoft.com/fr-fr/software-download/windows10)
In the control panel/system I have no mention of a preview but yes well the final version of Windows 10 Family edition,  French-Canadian ;)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: jfox on July 30, 2015, 08:13:30 PM
I have Avast Enterprise Security, Education. I have Installed Windows 10 professional on 5 computers since the final version was punished, all upgrades from Win7 and Win8.1, all finished within 30-40 minutes. All work perfectly, and all software has worked, except Avast Endpoint Protection. I tried re-installing it. Windows 10 will not let it install. So be aware and don't upgrade until Avast fixes it. :-[
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 30, 2015, 09:06:18 PM
I have Avast Enterprise Security, Education. I have Installed Windows 10 professional on 5 computers since the final version was punished, all upgrades from Win7 and Win8.1, all finished within 30-40 minutes. All work perfectly, and all software has worked, except Avast Endpoint Protection. I tried re-installing it. Windows 10 will not let it install. So be aware and don't upgrade until Avast fixes it. :-[
Welcome to the forum. :)
I've notified Avast. Hope it helps.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Coolmario88 on July 30, 2015, 11:39:15 PM
Does that issue with the WiFi thing the news has been talking about only effect computers that use WiFi or Ethernet as well?   Anyone here know how to disable it?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Michael (alan1998) on July 30, 2015, 11:48:32 PM
Be warned, any Add-On GPU's are a thorough pain in the (blank) to install drivers for. 5 restarts later, and a million downloads, and I have my 760 running the 3 monitors it's supposed to.

Anyone find Boot times to be very slow?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: polonus on July 30, 2015, 11:57:16 PM
Hi Coolmario88,

The wifi issue can be settled via privacy settings, else all your social contacts that happen to be near enough to your wifi could come to call and have access. Do you have neighbours on facebook? You'd give them free wifi? On ethernet you have to share wifi - do you have ethernet and wifi? But it is the same as with plug-and-play, it can be disabled, all these issues are a threat to users that do not know anything out of the per default settings. Hope for you, you're not one of them. As with script, only a threat to those that do not know how to toggle to block the threatening (mostly third party) ones. For the rest of the masses: ignorance is a bliss and this ignorance of the masses a bliss for MS also... ;D.

polonus
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on July 30, 2015, 11:58:53 PM
I wasn't getting any notification that the upgrade was ready so I used the Media Creation tool and set it to upgrade. It downloaded very fast and installed in a reasonable time. Since I had done an 8.1 image backup just previously, I went ahead and got rid of the Windows.old folder through CCleaner. I did have a few issues.

My sound worked fine at first but then went out. I uninstalled the sound card through Device Manager but did not delete the driver software. It reinstalled the card immediately and it works fine.

My screen resolution was screwed up. The desktop picture was smaller and centered in the screen and fonts were too small and sometimes cut off at the bottom. I checked the resolution settings and it was at 2544 X 1431 which my monitor doesn't even support. I set it to 1920 X 1080 and things went back to normal.

After getting the resolution set, my text looked pretty blurry so I had to go through the clearType wizard and set that up.

My Gigabyte utility, EasyTune6, which I was using to control CPU fan speed does not work in Windows 10. I went and got the latest version and it still doesn't work. It will not load and gives a message about a driver error. Right now I have no fan control except what is given in the BIOS and that makes the fan run too fast and noisy.

Everything else is fine. All my files were kept and all my programs run fine. Even the Free Bitdefender AV is working. Classic Shell works perfectly as well.

I also used a program called winaerotweaker to remove the shortcut arrows from the desktop icons and to enable colored title bars for my programs. It worked perfectly and there are other tweaks that can be applied as well.

I'm up and running but I do think the upgrade could have gone better.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 30, 2015, 11:59:00 PM
Be warned, any Add-On GPU's are a thorough pain in the (blank) to install drivers for. 5 restarts later, and a million downloads, and I have my 760 running the 3 monitors it's supposed to.

Anyone find Boot times to be very slow?
Yes to the slow boot times. It was much faster in Windows 8.1 (Which many didn't like  :'(  )
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on July 31, 2015, 12:13:09 AM
Well possibly the boot is slower for me as well, but certainly not a huge pain.
The upgrade for me was seamless, with everything functioning as normal. All of the peripheral software I have installed, stayed installed.
 Frankly, I'm impressed about my experience.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on July 31, 2015, 12:17:52 AM
Be warned, any Add-On GPU's are a thorough pain in the (blank) to install drivers for. 5 restarts later, and a million downloads, and I have my 760 running the 3 monitors it's supposed to.

Anyone find Boot times to be very slow?
Yes to the slow boot times. It was much faster in Windows 8.1 (Which many didn't like  :'(  )
My boot time is only very slightly slower than it was in 8.1. Only a few seconds.  It was very much slower ( a full minute more) until I took the following steps. First, I ran the registry cleaning part of CCleaner which removed over 90 invalid entries. Then I analyzed the disk with Puran Defrag and found it badly fragmented with the registry fragmented into 27 pieces. I did a boot time defrag and optimized directories. Then when the system came back up, I did another defrag and ran the PIOZR optimizer in Puran defrag. After that, like I said, boot time is back almost equal to what it was in 8.1. I'm going to run the Auslogics Registry Cleaner now which is much more thorough and should speed things up a little more.

Thank God for these third party programs.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Asyn on July 31, 2015, 12:38:06 PM
An Open Letter to Microsoft’s CEO: Don’t Roll Back the Clock on Choice and Control
https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2015/07/30/an-open-letter-to-microsofts-ceo-dont-roll-back-the-clock-on-choice-and-control/
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Pondus on July 31, 2015, 01:32:26 PM
Here's what's next for Windows 10
http://www.theverge.com/2015/7/30/9072271/microsoft-windows-10-updates

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Hermie on July 31, 2015, 01:45:14 PM
According to computeridee.nl Windows 10 uses your computer for updating computer(s) belonging to other people.
Kind of peer to peer network. Standard set on, can be set off.
Has this issue been discussed here?

Kind regards, Hermie
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 31, 2015, 02:56:59 PM
According to computeridee.nl Windows 10 uses your computer for updating computer(s) belonging to other people.
Kind of peer to peer network. Standard set on, can be set off.
Has this issue been discussed here?

Kind regards, Hermie
This should help:
Secure sharing of updates with others:
Go to All Settings > Update & Security
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1438346680724-62704.png)


(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1438346855330-14520.png)


(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1438346989038-98439.png)
Hope that helps. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Hermie on July 31, 2015, 03:34:44 PM
@Bob3160 thank you, your advice surely helps!

Kind regards, Hermie
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Michael (alan1998) on July 31, 2015, 05:11:13 PM
Be warned, any Add-On GPU's are a thorough pain in the (blank) to install drivers for. 5 restarts later, and a million downloads, and I have my 760 running the 3 monitors it's supposed to.

Anyone find Boot times to be very slow?
Yes to the slow boot times. It was much faster in Windows 8.1 (Which many didn't like  :'(  )
My boot time is only very slightly slower than it was in 8.1. Only a few seconds.  It was very much slower ( a full minute more) until I took the following steps. First, I ran the registry cleaning part of CCleaner which removed over 90 invalid entries. Then I analyzed the disk with Puran Defrag and found it badly fragmented with the registry fragmented into 27 pieces. I did a boot time defrag and optimized directories. Then when the system came back up, I did another defrag and ran the PIOZR optimizer in Puran defrag. After that, like I said, boot time is back almost equal to what it was in 8.1. I'm going to run the Auslogics Registry Cleaner now which is much more thorough and should speed things up a little more.

Thank God for these third party programs.

I will have to give this a shot. My boot time is in the minutes after BIOS loads.

Hmm, CCleaner certainly improved things Down to 107.9s... Or ~1m 45s. Still really long for a 7200RPM Hard drive, 16GB of RAM and an Intel core i7 3770..

Time for a Defrag.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on July 31, 2015, 06:07:45 PM
Have you run Windows disc clean up as administrator for a full clean up? that will delete a lot more if you haven't.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: essexboy on July 31, 2015, 06:43:22 PM
If you upgraded then I would recommend that you run Xboot to clean the start.  I did that as my initial boots were 4 minute... Now 40 seconds from power on :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on July 31, 2015, 07:10:18 PM
If you upgraded then I would recommend that you run Xboot to clean the start.  I did that as my initial boots were 4 minute... Now 40 seconds from power on :)

How exactly does Xboot work Martin? :)

Thanks Martin
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Coolmario88 on July 31, 2015, 07:11:41 PM
I'm back on windows 8.1 guys because of sightly overheating issues :(

windows update is trying to download windows 10 again... How do i stop it
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: essexboy on July 31, 2015, 07:26:14 PM
Here you go ...  After the upgrade and because there are so many files to shift around the second run (where defrag kicks in) can take up to an hour

Download the SDK web installer from here  (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/hh852363)
Run the installer and select the following:

Leave the location to default
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/73555776/wdk%20location.JPG)

Windows Performance Toolkit 
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/73555776/Wintoolkitselect.JPG)

You must reboot on completion of the install

After reboot set aside about 30 minutes when you will not need the computer

When ready start an elevated command prompt :

Go Start > All Programs > Accessories
Right click Command Prompt and select Run as Administrator

Then copy and paste the following command into the black box :

xbootmgr -trace boot -prepSystem -verboseReadyBoot

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/73555776/sdk%20command.JPG)

Now your PC will be restarted 6 times. With a two minute pause before the tool runs after the desktop loads
After the second reboot the MS defragmentation program is running and is placing the files into an optimized layout, so that Windows will boot up faster
The last Reboots are training of readyBoot. After the training is finished, you'll notice a huge improvement in startup.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on July 31, 2015, 07:26:53 PM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1438363250626-16934.png)

Microsoft has a well-hidden troubleshooter package, KB3073930 (https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3073930),
which allows you to hide or block Windows Updates and, crucially, driver updates.

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Michael (alan1998) on July 31, 2015, 08:24:43 PM
Here you go ...  After the upgrade and because there are so many files to shift around the second run (where defrag kicks in) can take up to an hour

Download the SDK web installer from here  (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/hh852363)
Run the installer and select the following:

Leave the location to default
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/73555776/wdk%20location.JPG)

Windows Performance Toolkit 
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/73555776/Wintoolkitselect.JPG)

You must reboot on completion of the install

After reboot set aside about 30 minutes when you will not need the computer

When ready start an elevated command prompt :

Go Start > All Programs > Accessories
Right click Command Prompt and select Run as Administrator

Then copy and paste the following command into the black box :

xbootmgr -trace boot -prepSystem -verboseReadyBoot

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/73555776/sdk%20command.JPG)

Now your PC will be restarted 6 times. With a two minute pause before the tool runs after the desktop loads
After the second reboot the MS defragmentation program is running and is placing the files into an optimized layout, so that Windows will boot up faster
The last Reboots are training of readyBoot. After the training is finished, you'll notice a huge improvement in startup.

I will give this a shot also.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: mchain on July 31, 2015, 08:49:14 PM
As a SATA III SSD boot disk, the windows SDK tool would not be recommended. 

No need for defragmentation, so need for this specific tool, correct?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: essexboy on July 31, 2015, 09:01:42 PM
Using an SSD would be problematical, the defragment is actually where various drivers and services are shifted to the front of the drive now with SSD that makes no difference as there is in effect no front :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: mchain on July 31, 2015, 09:13:45 PM
Not to mention impact of more bytes of data being written as defragmentation is being run and consequent garbage collection, thus shortening the potential life of the SSD drive, not that much in this case, but repeated use of defrag would cause issues.

Really, the optimum solution to slower boot times is to never upgrade a system.  Best to do a clean install.

SSD here is 15% fragmented and runs fine.  As you say, there is no front end.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: polonus on July 31, 2015, 11:56:19 PM
Back to firefox browser as default browser in Windows 10, hw to: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-change-your-default-browser-windows-10

polonus
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Michael (alan1998) on August 01, 2015, 12:14:33 AM
Boot up times are improving.. For some reason. The Disk Defrag failed 5 times though...
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on August 01, 2015, 12:39:10 AM
Boot up times are improving.. For some reason. The Disk Defrag failed 5 times though...
Get Puran, it's much better than the built in tool.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Michael (alan1998) on August 01, 2015, 01:57:12 AM
Boot up times are improving.. For some reason. The Disk Defrag failed 5 times though...
Get Puran, it's much better than the built in tool.

I'm slightly reluctant... The Puran Website, appears to be made in a rush. Firefox is flagging the download..

MBAM https://forums.malwarebytes.org/index.php?/topic/104926-puran-defrag/
VT Gave an All Clean + Most likely harmless tag.. Has 2 down votes. I'll give it a shot though. Worst comes to worse, I reinstall. Wouldn't hurt me any :-).

Was lucky I caught the words "Search Protect" inside the ToU/ToS/EULA... Seems not to have installed though.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 01, 2015, 02:27:55 AM
Back to firefox browser as default browser in Windows 10, hw to: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-change-your-default-browser-windows-10 (https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-change-your-default-browser-windows-10)

polonus
A tutorial was already posted in thesis thread. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: essexboy on August 01, 2015, 12:30:28 PM
With xboot you must use windows defrag as that programme talks to xboot about where to place drivers. puran does not
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on August 01, 2015, 01:26:38 PM
Get Puran, it's much better than the built in tool.
Puran isn't for Win10 as of yet, the installer is only recommended for XP - Vista - Win7 - Win8.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 01, 2015, 02:06:14 PM

Use the SDK optimization method outlined by essexboy. It works.There really isn't any need to add external programs when the function is already part of the Operating System.
Right clicking on your hard drive brings up the following menu:
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1438430237407-9081.png)


(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1438430439329-40300.png)
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1438429647744-41124.png)
Maintenance by default happens weekly.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: polonus on August 01, 2015, 02:51:02 PM
Hi folks,

What are the developments for profound adblocking in Windows 10 and what to do as Modern IE doesn't allow extensions (and I presume Modern Edge won't either, only Desktop Edge), at best it would be akin to ABP for Android, without the intimate access to browser APIs that makes the ABP extensions work acceptably, and unlike on Android, we wouldn't even be able to take the tack of making a custom browser shell that blocks ads, because (IIRC) Microsoft doesn't allow that sort of thing. Could be MS is to follow Google and ban ABP, uBlock etc. sompletely when they feel they can do that and get away with it. Just like as they stopped browser choice as European regulators no longer demanded this. Big US firms always liked risk management better than abiding by the rules, if you grasp what I mean to say.

I do not want to contact malvertisers on my computer and this is the only reason to block ads for me and by making it so hard to block trageted ads Windows 10 is putting this user at risk.

I can see they want to do this in the default settings as it is their business model and it is why they promote this OS for free. But it should have been much more user friendly if they would have provided for a way to block these ads. Going the Google way drives more and more of the aware and advanced  users into the arms of open software and linux.

polonus
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Michael (alan1998) on August 01, 2015, 02:52:14 PM

Use the SDK optimization method outlined by essexboy. It works.There really isn't any need to add external programs when the function is already part of the Operating System.
Right clicking on your hard drive brings up the following menu:
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1438430237407-9081.png)


(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1438430439329-40300.png)
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1438429647744-41124.png)
Maintenance by default happens weekly.

Defrag hung at 10% all night long. Stopped and restarted, No effects.

On the other side. Puran, detected 73 Reg fragments, 3 MFT Fragments, maybe more... It hung at 23% "Filling in". Restart and booted the system. Wiped, and reinstalling 8.1 :/

Windows 10 Installer gave me the "All clear". However, given that the first "Trial run" failed, and the second, public version has failed; I'm going to assume 10 is out of the question.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Para-Noid on August 01, 2015, 04:42:27 PM
Quote from reply #565

Bob pointed out this...

Microsoft has a well-hidden troubleshooter package, KB3073930,
which allows you to hide or block Windows Updates and, crucially, driver updates.

See https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3073930
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on August 01, 2015, 05:16:04 PM
Hi folks,

What are the developments for profound adblocking in Windows 10 and what to do as Modern IE doesn't allow extensions (and I presume Modern Edge won't either, only Desktop Edge), at best it would be akin to ABP for Android, without the intimate access to browser APIs that makes the ABP extensions work acceptably, and unlike on Android, we wouldn't even be able to take the tack of making a custom browser shell that blocks ads, because (IIRC) Microsoft doesn't allow that sort of thing. Could be MS is to follow Google and ban ABP, uBlock etc. sompletely when they feel they can do that and get away with it. Just like as they stopped browser choice as European regulators no longer demanded this. Big US firms always liked risk management better than abiding by the rules, if you grasp what I mean to say.

I do not want to contact malvertisers on my computer and this is the only reason to block ads for me and by making it so hard to block trageted ads Windows 10 is putting this user at risk.

I can see they want to do this in the default settings as it is their business model and it is why they promote this OS for free. But it should have been much more user friendly if they would have provided for a way to block these ads. Going the Google way drives more and more of the aware and advanced  users into the arms of open software and linux.

polonus
Adguard works flawlessly on Win10 IE and Edge, Microsoft are also further developing the Edge browser so it will accept extensions, it'll be using API's similar to Chrome.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Para-Noid on August 01, 2015, 05:31:26 PM
I'm back on windows 8.1 guys because of sightly overheating issues :(

windows update is trying to download windows 10 again... How do i stop it

It may be downloading. It's up to you as to whether or not to install Win10.

I took me 6 hours and several attempts before I could get Win10 up and running.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 01, 2015, 05:56:15 PM
I'm back on windows 8.1 guys because of sightly overheating issues :(

windows update is trying to download windows 10 again... How do i stop it

It may be downloading. It's up to you as to whether or not to install Win10.

I took me 6 hours and several attempts before I could get Win10 up and running.
I've now done this update procedure on 12 different computer of all ages and variations.
The best advice I can offer is to be very patient after the first time the system boots into Windows 10.
There's a lot going on in the background and if you aren't patient, nothing responds as it should.
Next run the SDK speedup and you'll wind up with a well oiled computer. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on August 01, 2015, 05:56:27 PM
With xboot you must use windows defrag as that programme talks to xboot about where to place drivers. puran does not

That's great information, thanks Essexboy that was my next question.

 I have in the past used Puran on other OS's and it always seemed to me that Windows Defrag put things in one place and Puran would put them somewhere else with no significant speed up other then on Windows XP
In W10 I'll stay with Windows Defrag, just saying :-)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Para-Noid on August 01, 2015, 06:35:49 PM
If you upgraded then I would recommend that you run Xboot to clean the start.  I did that as my initial boots were 4 minute... Now 40 seconds from power on :)

Thanks! Mine went from 7 minutes down to less than 1 minute.  8)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Para-Noid on August 01, 2015, 06:39:20 PM
Has anyone else have problems with third party firewalls?  ???
Win10 won't let me install Private Firewall. And I'm getting ticked off.  >:(
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on August 01, 2015, 06:41:24 PM
Has anyone else have problems with third party firewalls?  ???
Win10 won't let me install Private Firewall. And I'm getting ticked off.  >:(

Is there not a 'Private Firewall' forum? They might know
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Para-Noid on August 01, 2015, 06:47:14 PM
Has anyone else have problems with third party firewalls?  ???
Win10 won't let me install Private Firewall. And I'm getting ticked off.  >:(

Is there not a 'Private Firewall' forum? They might know

I'll send them an email. I have found email is the best way to contact them.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 01, 2015, 06:49:31 PM
Has anyone else have problems with third party firewalls?  ???
Win10 won't let me install Private Firewall. And I'm getting ticked off.  >:(
Avast's firewall installs and it's technically a third party firewall. :)
Don't know if what you use is compatible ?
I'm quite happy with the firewall that comes with Windows. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Para-Noid on August 01, 2015, 06:50:18 PM
Okay, I installed Classic Shell and I now have a Win7 style "start button".
The problem is I still can't get rid of the search box in the lower left corner. Any ideas?  ???
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on August 01, 2015, 06:53:32 PM
Well I've found it very useful and not a bit of a bother
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Coolmario88 on August 01, 2015, 06:55:57 PM
Okay, I installed Classic Shell and I now have a Win7 style "start button".
The problem is I still can't get rid of the search box in the lower left corner. Any ideas?  ???
Right click and find cortana context menu, u can change it to a icon or off I think...
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Para-Noid on August 01, 2015, 06:57:16 PM
Has anyone else have problems with third party firewalls?  ???
Win10 won't let me install Private Firewall. And I'm getting ticked off.  >:(
Avast's firewall installs and it's technically a third party firewall. :)
Don't know if what you use is compatible ?
I'm quite happy with the firewall that comes with Windows. :)

I like the HIPS in PFW. It's stronger than Windows Firewall and I'm not to the point of trusting the HIPS in avast free.
I need more information before I activate the HIPS in avast free. To me it seems like another attempt at the old behavior shield.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Para-Noid on August 01, 2015, 07:06:46 PM
Okay, I installed Classic Shell and I now have a Win7 style "start button".
The problem is I still can't get rid of the search box in the lower left corner. Any ideas?  ???
Right click and find cortana context menu, u can change it to a icon or off I think...

Found it.

Right click in the "search box">highlight "search">click "hide".  Click "show search box" to undo.
Or click "show search icon" to show icon next to start button.

After all this time and all of the beta testing I have done, you would think I would know how to "explore" new things.  :-[

IMHO, I have come to the conclusion Win10 is way better than Win8.1. All you have to do is get it set up the way you want it.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Coolmario88 on August 01, 2015, 07:10:28 PM
Okay, I installed Classic Shell and I now have a Win7 style "start button".
The problem is I still can't get rid of the search box in the lower left corner. Any ideas?  ???
Right click and find cortana context menu, u can change it to a icon or off I think...

Found it.

Right click in the "search box">highlight "search">click "hide".  Click "show search box" to undo.
Or click "show search icon" to show icon next to start button.

After all this time and all of the beta testing I have done, you would think I would know how to "explore" new things.  :-[

IMHO, I have come to the conclusion Win10 is way better than Win8.1. All you have to do is get it set up the way you want it.

Window 10 is way better in my opinion as well.. I'm going to upgrade back to it.. I miss the edge browser. I just need to buy a laptop coolant fan pad to help prevent overheating.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on August 01, 2015, 07:17:15 PM
Okay, I installed Classic Shell and I now have a Win7 style "start button".
The problem is I still can't get rid of the search box in the lower left corner. Any ideas?  ???
Right click and find cortana context menu, u can change it to a icon or off I think...

Found it.

Right click in the "search box">highlight "search">click "hide".  Click "show search box" to undo.
Or click "show search icon" to show icon next to start button.

After all this time and all of the beta testing I have done, you would think I would know how to "explore" new things.  :-[

IMHO, I have come to the conclusion Win10 is way better than Win8.1. All you have to do is get it set up the way you want it.

I've found that to be true for any software installed
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 01, 2015, 07:21:10 PM
Okay, I installed Classic Shell and I now have a Win7 style "start button".
The problem is I still can't get rid of the search box in the lower left corner. Any ideas?  ???
Right click and find cortana context menu, u can change it to a icon or off I think...

Found it.

Right click in the "search box">highlight "search">click "hide".  Click "show search box" to undo.
Or click "show search icon" to show icon next to start button.

After all this time and all of the beta testing I have done, you would think I would know how to "explore" new things.  :-[

IMHO, I have come to the conclusion Win10 is way better than Win8.1. All you have to do is get it set up the way you want it.

Window 10 is way better in my opinion as well.. I'm going to upgrade back to it.. I miss the edge browser. I just need to buy a laptop coolant fan pad to help prevent overheating.
Maybe you need to open it up and blow out the built up garbage ???
Simply elevate the back end of laptop to make airflow easier.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 01, 2015, 07:41:24 PM
I have Avast Enterprise Security, Education. I have Installed Windows 10 professional on 5 computers since the final version was punished, all upgrades from Win7 and Win8.1, all finished within 30-40 minutes. All work perfectly, and all software has worked, except Avast Endpoint Protection. I tried re-installing it. Windows 10 will not let it install. So be aware and don't upgrade until Avast fixes it. :-[
Welcome to the forum. :)
I've notified Avast. Hope it helps.
I've been told that Avast is working on the problem but at the moment there is no ETA for the fix.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on August 01, 2015, 10:37:33 PM
Get Puran, it's much better than the built in tool.
Puran isn't for Win10 as of yet, the installer is only recommended for XP - Vista - Win7 - Win8.
That doesn't matter. It works perfectly on Win 10. No program has to say Windows 10, or any other version, for it to work just fine.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: essexboy on August 01, 2015, 10:39:50 PM
Quote
Puran isn't for Win10 as of yet, the installer is only recommended for XP - Vista - Win7 - Win8.
That doesn't matter. It works perfectly on Win 10. No program has to say Windows 10, or any other version, for it to work just fine.
That is true start8 works perfectly well on my windows 10...
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on August 01, 2015, 10:44:27 PM
Has anyone else have problems with third party firewalls?  ???
Win10 won't let me install Private Firewall. And I'm getting ticked off.  >:(
Avast's firewall installs and it's technically a third party firewall. :)
Don't know if what you use is compatible ?
I'm quite happy with the firewall that comes with Windows. :)

I like the HIPS in PFW. It's stronger than Windows Firewall and I'm not to the point of trusting the HIPS in avast free.
I need more information before I activate the HIPS in avast free. To me it seems like another attempt at the old behavior shield.
After using Comodo for a few years, I grew increasingly annoyed by the HIPS functionality and now won't go anywhere near anything similar. I won't use any of the other annoying things like NoScript or WinPatrol either. The Windows Firewall and a good AV are enough. The free AV's out there are all pretty good. Even the improved Defender in Win 10 would suffice for many people.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on August 01, 2015, 10:49:35 PM
With xboot you must use windows defrag as that programme talks to xboot about where to place drivers. puran does not
No, but Puran has an optimizer called PIOZR that does the same thing only much faster. I tried that xboot thing and after the 6 reboots and an interminable wait after the second one, there is no improvement in boot time over what I got by cleaning the registry and doing a boot time defrag with Puran. I'll just keep using that.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on August 01, 2015, 11:07:20 PM

Use the SDK optimization method outlined by essexboy. It works.There really isn't any need to add external programs when the function is already part of the Operating System.
Right clicking on your hard drive brings up the following menu:
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1438430237407-9081.png)


(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1438430439329-40300.png)
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1438429647744-41124.png)
Maintenance by default happens weekly.
Except that the Windows defrag tool is painfully slow as it always has been. I have used third party defrag programs since Win 98SE and will continue to do so. Puran is simply better. It is also made by the well respected Windows guru, Vishal Gupta. That should be a recommendation right there.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on August 01, 2015, 11:22:29 PM
Well just goes to show you, it's all system specific
Because I've used both since installing W 8 a long time ago and then W 8.1 and now W10 and I find absolutely NO DIFFERENCE between Puran and Windows Defrag as far as "end results"
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Michael (alan1998) on August 01, 2015, 11:26:53 PM
Except that the Windows defrag tool is painfully slow as it always has been.

I will second that. Windows is painfully slow. But who better to create tools, then the creator(s) themselves?

Puran is simply better. It is also made by the well respected Windows guru, Vishal Gupta. That should be a recommendation right there.
I don't care who it's created by. I'd rather stick with Items I know work. Windows Defrag made things at least bearable. After hanging on Puran, and a restart, well, feces hit the fan.

Granted, Both hung. But the Windows one didn't boot my system.

Just as a side note. Not dissing Vishal Gupta or anything. However, it is worth noting, Alberta Einstein was a "science Guru" and watched as his own invention blow Hiroshima up.

The Nuke was better then TNT, does it mean we should use it. No.

And yes, I do know this is an extreme example. However, it proves my point. Inventions gone bad, and misused. Until Vishal says it's good for Windows 10, it should not be used.

No Flame war intended.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Para-Noid on August 01, 2015, 11:37:16 PM
Get Puran, it's much better than the built in tool.
Puran isn't for Win10 as of yet, the installer is only recommended for XP - Vista - Win7 - Win8.
That doesn't matter. It works perfectly on Win 10. No program has to say Windows 10, or any other version, for it to work just fine.

For some software it definitely does matter.
Case in point; Private Firewall worked great in XP, Vista, Win7 and Win8.1 but won't work with Win10.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on August 01, 2015, 11:48:20 PM
Except that the Windows defrag tool is painfully slow as it always has been.

I will second that. Windows is painfully slow. But who better to create tools, then the creator(s) themselves?

Puran is simply better. It is also made by the well respected Windows guru, Vishal Gupta. That should be a recommendation right there.
I don't care who it's created by. I'd rather stick with Items I know work. Windows Defrag made things at least bearable. After hanging on Puran, and a restart, well, feces hit the fan.

Granted, Both hung. But the Windows one didn't boot my system.

Just as a side note. Not dissing Vishal Gupta or anything. However, it is worth noting, Alberta Einstein was a "science Guru" and watched as his own invention blow Hiroshima up.

The Nuke was better then TNT, does it mean we should use it. No.

And yes, I do know this is an extreme example. However, it proves my point. Inventions gone bad, and misused. Until Vishal says it's good for Windows 10, it should not be used.

No Flame war intended.
Sorry but that's a ridiculous analogy and stance. Maybe I shouldn't use Office 2007, PowerDVD, my printer drivers dated from 2010 that work perfectly, my games like World of Warcraft and all the ones in my Steam account, or the myriads of other things that don't say yet that they support Win 10 but work perfectly fine?  Maybe we should have uninstalled everything that didn't say it was ready for 10 before doing the upgrade? I don't think so. You should try things and if they don't work, fine. If they do, don't worry about any "recommendations" on a download page. Almost everything that worked in 8.1 will work in 10. I have only had one exception and that is the motherboard utility from Gigabyte that I was using to control fan speeds.

As another example, the xboot tool recommended by Essexboy is obtained from a page that is labeled as being for Windows 8. Should people avoid that as well?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on August 02, 2015, 12:49:36 AM
Here you go ...  After the upgrade and because there are so many files to shift around the second run (where defrag kicks in) can take up to an hour

Download the SDK web installer from here  (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/hh852363)
Run the installer and select the following:

Leave the location to default
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/73555776/wdk%20location.JPG)

Windows Performance Toolkit 
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/73555776/Wintoolkitselect.JPG)

You must reboot on completion of the install

After reboot set aside about 30 minutes when you will not need the computer

When ready start an elevated command prompt :

Go Start > All Programs > Accessories
Right click Command Prompt and select Run as Administrator

Then copy and paste the following command into the black box :

xbootmgr -trace boot -prepSystem -verboseReadyBoot

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/73555776/sdk%20command.JPG)

Now your PC will be restarted 6 times. With a two minute pause before the tool runs after the desktop loads
After the second reboot the MS defragmentation program is running and is placing the files into an optimized layout, so that Windows will boot up faster
The last Reboots are training of readyBoot. After the training is finished, you'll notice a huge improvement in startup.
This does work but is very slow. One correction though. The Command Prompt is not found in Accessories but rather in the Windows System folder.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 02, 2015, 02:44:03 AM
There is a much easier way to reach the elevated command prompt and it's been that way since Windows 8.
Right click here (or use the Windows & X key)
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1438475892754-38059.png)
And select it:
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1438475981601-71806.png)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on August 02, 2015, 04:55:41 AM
Good one Bob Win X for the win.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on August 02, 2015, 06:41:18 AM
Get Puran, it's much better than the built in tool.
Puran isn't for Win10 as of yet, the installer is only recommended for XP - Vista - Win7 - Win8.
That doesn't matter. It works perfectly on Win 10. No program has to say Windows 10, or any other version, for it to work just fine.
Until they say it's specifically compatible in Win10 there is no way in the world I would recommend Puran, it's fine for older systems but it is a huge risk to use on 10.

The inbuilt Windows defrag works very well and is simply the best tool to use at this stage, I also have ssd's which win defrag can trim in a matter of seconds.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on August 02, 2015, 06:48:57 AM
The Command Prompt is not found in Accessories but rather in the Windows System folder.
Right click the Windows icon in taskbar...Command Prompt is right there in the list for quick access :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on August 02, 2015, 08:05:00 AM
The Command Prompt is not found in Accessories but rather in the Windows System folder.
Right click the Windows icon in taskbar...Command Prompt is right there in the list for quick access :)
Not if you have the button replaced by Classic Shell. Then you have to use Win+X
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on August 02, 2015, 10:17:40 AM
The Command Prompt is not found in Accessories but rather in the Windows System folder.
Right click the Windows icon in taskbar...Command Prompt is right there in the list for quick access :)
Not if you have the button replaced by Classic Shell. Then you have to use Win+X
What's the point of Classic Shell now that a proper start menu is included in 10?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 02, 2015, 03:42:33 PM
The Command Prompt is not found in Accessories but rather in the Windows System folder.
Right click the Windows icon in taskbar...Command Prompt is right there in the list for quick access :)
There is a much easier way to reach the elevated command prompt and it's been that way since Windows 8.
Right click here (or use the Windows & X key)
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1438475892754-38059.png)
And select it:
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1438475981601-71806.png)
I think that's what this explained. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on August 02, 2015, 03:57:53 PM
I hid the win 10 update on my win 7 computer so I'm wondering if I restart the computer it will automatically install win 10?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 02, 2015, 04:05:20 PM
I hid the win 10 update on my win 7 computer so I'm wondering if I restart the computer it will automatically install win 10?
It installs when you give it permission to install.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on August 02, 2015, 08:40:53 PM
The Command Prompt is not found in Accessories but rather in the Windows System folder.
Right click the Windows icon in taskbar...Command Prompt is right there in the list for quick access :)
Not if you have the button replaced by Classic Shell. Then you have to use Win+X
What's the point of Classic Shell now that a proper start menu is included in 10?
I wouldn't call it "proper". It's still not good enough for me.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on August 02, 2015, 08:45:30 PM
I still use Classic Shell as for me, the new W10 menu (while better) still doesn't show me the love.
I like the original older menu options better. :-)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on August 02, 2015, 08:48:08 PM
I wouldn't call it "proper". It's still not good enough for me.
Your choice, I can put everything and anything on the new start panel now so it functions just as well as Win7 imo.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Coolmario88 on August 02, 2015, 09:46:11 PM
Anyone know how can i disable the windows update from downloading windows 10 when i upgrade back to windows 8.1?  ??? Microsoft's little upgrade check says my computer is ready and compatible but after what i saw last night and the issues.. I know for a fact it is not.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 02, 2015, 09:57:44 PM
Anyone know how can i disable the windows update from downloading windows 10 when i upgrade back to windows 8.1?  ??? Microsoft's little upgrade check says my computer is ready and compatible but after what i saw last night and the issues.. I know for a fact it is not.
It's the same as your Pharmacy telling you your prescription is ready. Till you pick it up, you don't have it.
It's up to you to actually upgrade or, simply leave Windows 8.1 on your system.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Coolmario88 on August 02, 2015, 10:00:08 PM
Anyone know how can i disable the windows update from downloading windows 10 when i upgrade back to windows 8.1?  ??? Microsoft's little upgrade check says my computer is ready and compatible but after what i saw last night and the issues.. I know for a fact it is not.
It's the same as your Pharmacy telling you your prescription is ready. Till you pick it up, you don't have it.
It's up to you to actually upgrade or, simply leave Windows 8.1 on your system.
What I had noticed Bob, I went to check for windows update like Security fixes and such, and the thing saying "Downloading windows 10" always appeared.. I choose to hide windows 10 home update and it still done it... There has to be something else i can do to prevent it..
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 02, 2015, 10:13:22 PM
You can click on the Show all Updates link and see if there are any updated due for Windows 8.1
I can't show screenshots I no longer have a Windows 8.1 computer.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on August 03, 2015, 12:44:39 AM
I wouldn't call it "proper". It's still not good enough for me.
Your choice, I can put everything and anything on the new start panel now so it functions just as well as Win7 imo.
Can you put your browser Favorites/bookmarks there and have them show as a menu? No, you can't and that's the thing I use a start menu for 90% of the time.  It's also a big reason why IE is my default browser. Only it's favorites will be saved to that same menu. All my most used things are icons on my desktop.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 03, 2015, 01:11:39 AM
I wouldn't call it "proper". It's still not good enough for me.
Your choice, I can put everything and anything on the new start panel now so it functions just as well as Win7 imo.
Can you put your browser Favorites/bookmarks there and have them show as a menu? No, you can't and that's the thing I use a start menu for 90% of the time.  It's also a big reason why IE is my default browser. Only it's favorites will be saved to that same menu. All my most used things are icons on my desktop.
This as most items are users choice.
I hardly ever use the start menu. Desktop shortcuts get me to almost everything I need and the Windows &X key take care of the rest along with what's available in the task bar and sys tray..
It's all in what you get used too.
Someone else will probably have a different way method of reaching the tools and programs they need.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Rompin Raider on August 03, 2015, 02:29:58 AM
Just installed AIS with Windows 10 for the first time after using Windows 7 forever. The first thing I noticed was the increase in browsing speed over 7.  I ran it (W10) for 24 hours with Norton Security Backup and it was slower than Avast, which was not the case with W7. Just initial testing but impressed so far with Avast.....my computer, like Bob & me, is pretty old and crusty!  ;)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 03, 2015, 03:13:23 PM
Using Common Sense for WiFi Sense
http://1drv.ms/1SVF6L8 (http://1drv.ms/1SVF6L8)
What are your thoughts ???
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 03, 2015, 03:43:50 PM

(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1438609365839-46427.png)

Fixing Windows 10 Automatic Updates & Install Default Policy (http://www.askvg.com/fixing-windows-10-automatic-updates-install-problem/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AskVG+%28AskVG%29)

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Rompin Raider on August 03, 2015, 07:13:52 PM
Using Common Sense for WiFi Sense
http://1drv.ms/1SVF6L8 (http://1drv.ms/1SVF6L8)
What are your thoughts ???
I need to think about that....I live in the country so no one nearby but family comes in and uses my wifi. I hurriedly skipped by that in the set up but will give it some thought. RR
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on August 03, 2015, 08:52:09 PM
I haven't made a system backup yet but would it be safe to install win 10?  I'm going to send this computer back to Dell and get a win 10 laptop.

Will set it back to factory settings before sending it back.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 03, 2015, 09:06:06 PM
I haven't made a system backup yet but would it be safe to install win 10?  I'm going to send this computer back to Dell and get a win 10 laptop.

Will set it back to factory settings before I send it back to Dell.
That depends on what you're allowed to do to the computer and still return it to them. You can just simply update this one and it would be the same as if
you bought a windows 10 computer.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on August 03, 2015, 10:01:05 PM
Using Common Sense for WiFi Sense
http://1drv.ms/1SVF6L8 (http://1drv.ms/1SVF6L8)
What are your thoughts ???
Well, since this machine is the only one that has Windows 10 and, it doesn't have a Wi-Fi card, I think I'm safe. :-)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on August 03, 2015, 11:05:14 PM
I haven't made a system backup yet but would it be safe to install win 10?  I'm going to send this computer back to Dell and get a win 10 laptop.

Will set it back to factory settings before I send it back to Dell.
That depends on what you're allowed to do to the computer and still return it to them. You can just simply update this one and it would be the same as if
you bought a windows 10 computer.

I'm allowed to do whatever I want to do with my computer for 6 months but will have to reset it to factory settings before sending it back
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 03, 2015, 11:15:01 PM
I haven't made a system backup yet but would it be safe to install win 10?  I'm going to send this computer back to Dell and get a win 10 laptop.

Will set it back to factory settings before I send it back to Dell.
That depends on what you're allowed to do to the computer and still return it to them. You can just simply update this one and it would be the same as if
you bought a windows 10 computer.

 
I'm allowed to do whatever I want to do with my computer for 6 months but will have to reset it to factory settings before sending it back

It just seems like a waist of time to send it back and wait for a new one when upgrading it is much faster and the process is fairly easy.
Your computer, your choice. I only answered since you asked.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: mchain on August 04, 2015, 11:19:34 AM
Using Common Sense for WiFi Sense
http://1drv.ms/1SVF6L8 (http://1drv.ms/1SVF6L8)
What are your thoughts ???
Well, setup seem not that much different from smartphones or tablets, they are always looking for wi-fi connections as you move about.  Some vendors have them set up to connect to any available wi-fi connection without notifying you and permanently remembering them.  Offhand, Microsoft's iteration seems similar. 

To know that would require further investigation.

[EDIT:]  Wi-fi Sense appears to be allowing others to use your wi-fi connection, correct?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 04, 2015, 02:27:39 PM
Using Common Sense for WiFi Sense
http://1drv.ms/1SVF6L8 (http://1drv.ms/1SVF6L8)
What are your thoughts ???
Well, setup seem not that much different from smartphones or tablets, they are always looking for wi-fi connections as you move about.  Some vendors have them set up to connect to any available wi-fi connection without notifying you and permanently remembering them.  Offhand, Microsoft's iteration seems similar. 

To know that would require further investigation.

[EDIT:]  Wi-fi Sense appears to be allowing others to use your wi-fi connection, correct?
Simple answer is yes. They need to be in range to do so. Where I live that limits it pretty much to those that visit my home. :)
You can also restrict what they can actually access by isolating yourself from what can be accessed.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: GIOVANNI39 on August 04, 2015, 04:15:57 PM
The only tiny problem I have with the upgrade is that Ilost my access to my numeric pad. I just can't use it. I tried to uninstall it from the device manager but there is no way to change the driver to the old one. I'm looking over the internet for a solution. My mouse works rather fine now with the new driver I reinstalled (bad installation) but seemed to work better on win 8.1!
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 04, 2015, 04:22:37 PM
The only tiny problem I have with the upgrade is that Ilost my access to my numeric pad. I just can't use it. I tried to uninstall it from the device manager but there is no way to change the driver to the old one. I'm looking over the internet for a solution. My mouse works rather fine now with the new driver I reinstalled (bad installation) but seemed to work better on win 8.1!
I've always had good luck in updating drivers by using Drive the Life. More information here:
http://www.drivethelife.com/windows-drivers/free-windows-10-update-how-to-install-windows-10.html (http://www.drivethelife.com/windows-drivers/free-windows-10-update-how-to-install-windows-10.html)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: GIOVANNI39 on August 04, 2015, 06:28:11 PM
Hi Bob,
Your web download was suspicious to K-9, probably a FP. Anyways I solved my problem by some head scratching since Google doesn't help. Go in Control Panel/Ergonomy settings/ Keyboard and untick use numeric pad as your mouse while activated (must be deactivated). I don't know why it's activated by default! :-X
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 04, 2015, 06:35:26 PM
Hi Bob,
Your web download was suspicious to K-9, probably a FP. Anyways I solved my problem by some head scratching since Google doesn't help. Go in Control Panel/Ergonomy settings/ Keyboard and untick use numeric pad as your mouse while activated (must be deactivated). I don't know why it's activated by default! :-X
Strange, I saw nothing on that link that should have tripped anything. Here is the direct link to the Website not the discussion page:
http://www.drivethelife.com/ (http://www.drivethelife.com/)


(I don't use K-9, have no kids at home and am not easily embarrassed.)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: mchain on August 04, 2015, 06:45:32 PM
WOT, not highly rated, low confidence rating:  https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/drivethelife.com?utm_source=addon&utm_content=contextmenu (https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/drivethelife.com?utm_source=addon&utm_content=contextmenu)

Not anything you did, bob3160, no control how other a/v vendors set up their blocks and warnings, including avast.  Likely triggered by the low confidence rating by WOT and others similar to it.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 04, 2015, 06:48:42 PM
WOT, not highly rated, low confidence rating:  https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/drivethelife.com?utm_source=addon&utm_content=contextmenu (https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/drivethelife.com?utm_source=addon&utm_content=contextmenu)

Not anything you did, bob3160, no control how other a/v vendors set up their blocks and warnings, including avast.  Likely triggered by the low confidence rating by WOT and others similar to it.
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1438706889883-67103.png)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on August 04, 2015, 08:48:08 PM
WOT, not highly rated, low confidence rating:  https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/drivethelife.com?utm_source=addon&utm_content=contextmenu (https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/drivethelife.com?utm_source=addon&utm_content=contextmenu)

Not anything you did, bob3160, no control how other a/v vendors set up their blocks and warnings, including avast.  Likely triggered by the low confidence rating by WOT and others similar to it.
That's exactly why I don't use any of that stuff.  No WOT, No K9, No WinPatrol, none of it.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: polonus on August 05, 2015, 12:43:57 PM
Anyone knows about this discussion and what we hold of it?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/3fn46j/i_made_my_own_userfriendly_windows_10_privacy/

polonus
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: mchain on August 05, 2015, 12:47:26 PM
Windows 10 upgrade bug makes some PCs unusable
http://www.siliconbeat.com/2015/08/04/windows-10-upgrade-bug-makes-some-pcs-unusable/ (http://www.siliconbeat.com/2015/08/04/windows-10-upgrade-bug-makes-some-pcs-unusable/)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on August 05, 2015, 02:55:44 PM
I just got a notification that my computer is ready  to upgrade to win 10 but after reading what it said on the link mchain posted I'm kind of leery about upgrading.
 
When I go to windows update it shows upgrade to win 10.

Had I known my husband was going to Best Buy yesterday I would have told him to buy a couple flash drives.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Pondus on August 05, 2015, 03:17:43 PM
I just got a notification that my computer is ready  to upgrade to win 10 but after reading what it said on the link mchain posted I'm kind of leery about upgrading.
 
When I go to windows update it shows upgrade to win 10.

Had I known my husband was going to Best Buy yesterday I would have told him to buy a couple flash drives.
some also get hit by crashing plane   
http://www.wfmynews2.com/story/news/nation/2014/07/27/plane-crash-killed-florida-beach/13252413/

hower the chanse for it to happen is ... very low odds

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on August 05, 2015, 04:20:18 PM
If I upgrade will I still have my pictures, download folders?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Pondus on August 05, 2015, 04:28:56 PM
If I upgrade will I still have my pictures, download folders?
here is one guy that found out he did   ;)
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=85679.msg1239990#msg1239990

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Pondus on August 05, 2015, 04:31:17 PM
and since you have Hotmail, you have free 15GB online backup/storage at OneDrive  https://onedrive.live.com/


Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 05, 2015, 04:31:47 PM
@-midnight,
The answer is yes Which you should already know if you've been following this thread. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on August 05, 2015, 04:41:37 PM
I've never used OneDrive.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Pondus on August 05, 2015, 06:10:36 PM
I've never used OneDrive.

This is how OneDrive works in Windows 10 
http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/onedrive-will-work-windows-10/

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=onedrive+win10

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on August 05, 2015, 07:12:25 PM
How to Uninstall Microsoft OneDrive Completely in Windows 10
http://whatswithtech.com/how-to-uninstall-microsoft-onedrive-completely-in-windows-10/

Completely Uninstall Pre-Installed Apps From Windows 10 using PowerShell Commands
http://whatswithtech.com/completely-uninstall-pre-installed-apps-from-windows-10-using-powershell-commands/

Remember to make a system image beforehand in case you don't like the change or just change your mind :)

These scripts work as I've tested them personally.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on August 05, 2015, 09:42:24 PM
I've spent over an hour reading about win 10 and there are a lot of things I don't like so I won't be installing it anytime soon. 
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 05, 2015, 09:44:14 PM
How to Uninstall Microsoft OneDrive Completely in Windows 10
http://whatswithtech.com/how-to-uninstall-microsoft-onedrive-completely-in-windows-10/ (http://whatswithtech.com/how-to-uninstall-microsoft-onedrive-completely-in-windows-10/)

Completely Uninstall Pre-Installed Apps From Windows 10 using PowerShell Commands
http://whatswithtech.com/completely-uninstall-pre-installed-apps-from-windows-10-using-powershell-commands/ (http://whatswithtech.com/completely-uninstall-pre-installed-apps-from-windows-10-using-powershell-commands/)

Remember to make a system image beforehand in case you don't like the change or just change your mind :)

These scripts work as I've tested them personally.
I wouldn't recommend either of these two procedures to the average computer user. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 05, 2015, 09:52:42 PM
I've spent over an hour reading about win 10 and there are a lot of things I don't like so I won't be installing it anytime soon.
If you had spent that much time reading about your current OS, you wouldn't have installed it either. :)
In the end, you determine what you OS looks and acts like since you change it to your liking. :)



Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on August 05, 2015, 10:06:18 PM
I didn't read anything about win 7, win 8 or win 8.1.

I'll have my neighbor make a system image for me, then I might try it.

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Pondus on August 05, 2015, 10:10:26 PM
Cumulative Update for Windows 10: August 5, 2015  https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3081424

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Charyb on August 05, 2015, 10:21:59 PM
Cumulative Update for Windows 10: August 5, 2015  https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3081424 (https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3081424)
This is for Windows 10 x86 only and not for x64. Correct?


Edit: Nevermind. W10 x64 update is downloading right now.

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Para-Noid on August 05, 2015, 11:45:45 PM
Killing Cortana: How to disable Windows 10's info-hungry digital assistant

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2949759/windows/killing-cortana-how-to-disable-windows-10s-info-hungry-digital-assistant.html

Note: Also posted in the "avast blog posts" thread https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=147567.msg1240463#msg1240463
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Charyb on August 06, 2015, 01:43:26 AM
Where is the recovery cd creator in Windows 10? I am having a hard time finding it.


edit: I found it after I found control panel.


I am not certain that Windows 10 is any better than Windows 8.1.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on August 06, 2015, 06:33:17 AM

I am not certain that Windows 10 is any better than Windows 8.1.

I'm enjoying just getting to know the new W10 OS.
And I also have W8.1 on another LT
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on August 06, 2015, 07:45:07 AM
How to Uninstall Microsoft OneDrive Completely in Windows 10
http://whatswithtech.com/how-to-uninstall-microsoft-onedrive-completely-in-windows-10/ (http://whatswithtech.com/how-to-uninstall-microsoft-onedrive-completely-in-windows-10/)

Completely Uninstall Pre-Installed Apps From Windows 10 using PowerShell Commands
http://whatswithtech.com/completely-uninstall-pre-installed-apps-from-windows-10-using-powershell-commands/ (http://whatswithtech.com/completely-uninstall-pre-installed-apps-from-windows-10-using-powershell-commands/)

Remember to make a system image beforehand in case you don't like the change or just change your mind :)

These scripts work as I've tested them personally.
I wouldn't recommend either of these two procedures to the average computer user. :)
If my mother can follow the steps then I'd say anybody could do it ;D
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Jhonny Semar on August 06, 2015, 09:00:12 AM
I still not dare to use Windows 10. Because all my friends said this new windows is little heavy for small pc, but the system and the new application in it so cool but I never dare to use it. So until I upgrading my PC, I will keep using windows 7 until then. But I was wondering, is AVAST compatible with this windows?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Asyn on August 06, 2015, 09:07:47 AM
But I was wondering, is AVAST compatible with this windows?
Sure. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 06, 2015, 02:12:44 PM
I still not dare to use Windows 10. Because all my friends said this new windows is little heavy for small pc, but the system and the new application in it so cool but I never dare to use it. So until I upgrading my PC, I will keep using windows 7 until then. But I was wondering, is AVAST compatible with this windows?
Windows 10 is lighter on system resources than Windows 7
If you look through this thread, you'll see were I upgraded an old computer.
It's running just fine on Windows 10.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Pondus on August 06, 2015, 02:27:57 PM
have upgraded 3 family laptops and they all seems to start and run quicker   ;)

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: polonus on August 06, 2015, 03:10:58 PM
Interesting read:

How to enable GodMode in the final Windows10 version:
http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-enable-godmode-in-windows-10/

polonus
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on August 06, 2015, 03:48:49 PM
One of my friends upgraded to win 10 and she lost her pictures, bookmarks and download folders.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: essexboy on August 06, 2015, 03:55:45 PM
When she upgraded did she select the right bits to save ?  There are 3 options available
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on August 06, 2015, 03:56:34 PM
One of my friends upgraded to win 10 and she lost her pictures, bookmarks and download folders.
Well she should have backed them up then shouldn't she, that's what external drives are for ;)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: carra2 on August 06, 2015, 04:27:59 PM
Just installed Windows 10 an everything works apart from Avast.

Contacted helpdesk, they had a look at my PC and said that I should have prepared the PC before installing 10.

It appears I had some bits and pieces of Avast that should or shouldn't be there for Windows 10 - how the hell I was supposed to know this is beyond me, and if I wanted it fixed I had to go to second level support which I would have to pay for.

Avast didn't warn me that Windows 10 may be a problem. The only time I receive any communication from this company is when they want to renew my license.
How come every other software supplier has successfully updated their products to work with Windows 10 and Avast hasn't.

Needless to say as Avast don't appear to be a professional business, it's goodbye to Avast and hello to a different product.

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 06, 2015, 04:30:17 PM
Just installed Windows 10 an everything works apart from Avast.

Contacted helpdesk, they had a look at my PC and said that I should have prepared the PC before installing 10.

It appears I had some bits and pieces of Avast that should or shouldn't be there for Windows 10 - how the hell I was supposed to know this is beyond me, and if I wanted it fixed I had to go to second level support which I would have to pay for.

Avast didn't warn me that Windows 10 may be a problem. The only time I receive any communication from this company is when they want to renew my license.
How come every other software supplier has successfully updated their products to work with Windows 10 and Avast hasn't.

Needless to say as Avast don't appear to be a professional business, it's goodbye to Avast and hello to a different product.
The latest version of Avast works very well with Windows 10.
If you care to explain your problem in your own post, we'd be glad to help.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 06, 2015, 04:33:42 PM
Cleaning Up & Regaining Disk Space After Windows 10 Upgrade
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1438871034734-98476.png) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aXNO8lJBJY)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aXNO8lJBJY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aXNO8lJBJY)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on August 06, 2015, 09:23:58 PM
When she upgraded did she select the right bits to save ?  There are 3 options available

I asked her if she selected the right bits to save and she said she didn't know anything about bits.  I'm glad I didn't upgrade because just like her I don't know what bits are.  All I know is 32 and 64 bits.  What are the three options?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: essexboy on August 06, 2015, 09:55:26 PM
They are :

Keep programmes and personal files
Keep personal files
Keep nothing
 
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 06, 2015, 09:56:28 PM
When she upgraded did she select the right bits to save ?  There are 3 options available

I asked her if she selected the right bits to save and she said she didn't know anything about bits.  I'm glad I didn't upgrade because just like her I don't know what bits are.  All I know is 32 and 64 bits.  What are the three options?
This is what she should have checked:
 (http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1438890895776-66714.png)
Worked without a flaw on all of the systems I've converted so far. (12)
 
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: essexboy on August 06, 2015, 10:00:43 PM
A clearer look here

http://winsupersite.com/windows-10/windows-technical-preview-install-guide-upgrade-windows-7-or-windows-8
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on August 06, 2015, 11:32:23 PM
Had she chosen to keep program and personal files would she not have lost her pictures?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 06, 2015, 11:46:51 PM
Had she chosen to keep program and personal files would she not have lost her pictures?
NO she would have lost nothing.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on August 07, 2015, 12:42:01 AM
I'm confused.  She would have not lost her pictures?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on August 07, 2015, 03:16:02 AM
I've never used OneDrive.

This is how OneDrive works in Windows 10 
http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/onedrive-will-work-windows-10/

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=onedrive+win10
It looks a lot better than the way it was done in 8.1.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on August 07, 2015, 03:16:54 AM
Had she chosen to keep program and personal files would she not have lost her pictures?
No, you lose nothing. Pictures are personal files.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: DavidR on August 07, 2015, 05:32:07 PM
I wonder if you all know about the change in Microsoft's privacy statement, I saw this in an article I read, http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/microsoft/windows/11782807/windows-10-privacy.html?ref=yfp (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/microsoft/windows/11782807/windows-10-privacy.html?ref=yfp).
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 07, 2015, 05:51:16 PM
I wonder if you all know about the change in Microsoft's privacy statement, I saw this in an article I read, http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/microsoft/windows/11782807/windows-10-privacy.html?ref=yfp (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/microsoft/windows/11782807/windows-10-privacy.html?ref=yfp).
It basically comes down to NOT using the default options when you install Windows 10 (or any other program).
None of my upgrades were set up with default settings and/or permissions.
Default means I'll be doing things your way. Custom means I'll be doing things my way. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 07, 2015, 06:38:03 PM
Windows 10 privacy settings (http://download.cnet.com/blog/download-blog/windows-10-privacy-settings)
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1438965263497-55553.png)
This will help you decrease some of the information that's shared by default in Windows 10.
(The only way to totally protect your privacy is to never go online, never use a smart device.)

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on August 07, 2015, 06:49:58 PM
Yes, I have thoroughly gone threw all the Privacy setting and for my use means turning off the Vast Majority including Camera and Microphone until I'm ready to use; then I enable.
Most of my work is done be Key Board.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on August 07, 2015, 07:20:16 PM
Someone told me that you can't play a CD with windows 10.  I like to use our CD's to play music
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: DavidR on August 07, 2015, 07:29:55 PM
Windows 10 privacy settings (http://download.cnet.com/blog/download-blog/windows-10-privacy-settings)
<snip image>
This will help you decrease some of the information that's shared by default in Windows 10.
(The only way to totally protect your privacy is to never go online, never use a smart device.)

Something else, a link that came out in that BillMullins article you posted in the Security and Warnings, is that They are also taking liberties, stealing your bandwidth (default opt-in),  using your system to distribute win10 to other users. I don't know where that option is but one that should be found and squashed.

http://www.theverge.com/2015/8/4/9094093/microsoft-caught-using-windows-users-bandwidth-to-seed-windows-10 (http://www.theverge.com/2015/8/4/9094093/microsoft-caught-using-windows-users-bandwidth-to-seed-windows-10)

And
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2955491/windows/how-to-stop-windows-10-from-using-your-pcs-bandwidth-to-update-strangers-systems.html (http://www.pcworld.com/article/2955491/windows/how-to-stop-windows-10-from-using-your-pcs-bandwidth-to-update-strangers-systems.html)
Quote from: extract of article
Make sure Windows Update is selected in the left-hand navigation pane (it’s the default when you open Updates & Security) and then click Advanced Options in the main pane.
win10 updates dash

You’ll see a lot of options and checkboxes. Peruse them if you’d like, but for today’s task, you’ll want to click on Choose how updates are delivered.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: DavidR on August 07, 2015, 07:32:04 PM
Yes, I have thoroughly gone threw all the Privacy setting and for my use means turning off the Vast Majority including Camera and Microphone until I'm ready to use; then I enable.
Most of my work is done be Key Board.

There are also issued about Using Cortana (I guess since disabling the microphone, it can't run) as once you use it you effectively have opted in to it collecting data from multiple sources, not just your searches.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on August 07, 2015, 07:37:01 PM
Yes, I have thoroughly gone threw all the Privacy setting and for my use means turning off the Vast Majority including Camera and Microphone until I'm ready to use; then I enable.
Most of my work is done be Key Board.

There are also issued about Using Cortana (I guess since disabling the microphone, it can't run) as once you use it you effectively have opted in to it collecting data from multiple sources, not just your searches.

Yes David, Cortana and Regional Services are definitely high on the list for tracking.'
Cortana isn't officially available in Canada (GO Figure) however you can get it, I got it by simply changing my Region to the 'United States' and voila.
Changed it back to Canada and moved on. ;)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Pondus on August 07, 2015, 09:29:52 PM
How To Automatically Login In Windows 10
http://www.intowindows.com/how-to-automatically-login-in-windows-10/


another alternative, down in left corner click the  magnifying glass icon .. search PIN   and you can add a 4 digit pin code



Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 07, 2015, 09:32:59 PM
Cortana just like Sire and Google's voice search depend on certain information in order to
make their replies more personal.
If you disable certain functions (GPS) Cortana will not be available.
You have to decide what's important to you.   
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 07, 2015, 09:38:17 PM
Someone told me that you can't play a CD with windows 10.  I like to use our CD's to play music
VLC Media Player makes it possible. :) http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-windows.html (http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-windows.html)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Para-Noid on August 07, 2015, 09:48:48 PM
@ Bob    https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=156141.msg1240683#msg1240683

I should have been doing this yesterday. My internet was down all day and this never even crossed my mind.
I was suffering through internet withdrawal.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 07, 2015, 09:58:10 PM
@ Bob    https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=156141.msg1240683#msg1240683 (https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=156141.msg1240683#msg1240683)

I should have been doing this yesterday. My internet was down all day and this never even crossed my mind.
I was suffering through internet withdrawal.
A good way to kill some time. The cleanup if you're getting rid of the old OS files, takes some time.
(I used some magic to speed up the process in the video. ) :)

Nothing worse than no internet. I have a webinar for a club in Long Island NY (https://plus.google.com/+NorbertGostischa/posts/KkTNKScTqbt) tonight.
That certainly wouldn't work without good internet access.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on August 07, 2015, 10:23:47 PM
Someone told me that you can't play a CD with windows 10.  I like to use our CD's to play music
Guess what, they lied. Windows Media Player plays CD's just fine and sounds better than any other player. You can customize the sound much more than with things like VLC. You just need to go to autorun in the Control Panel and set music CD's to open in Media Player.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on August 07, 2015, 10:52:51 PM
Seems like upgrading from win 8 to win 8.1 was much easier and less complicated than upgrading from win 8.1 to win 10.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 07, 2015, 11:17:10 PM
Seems like upgrading from win 8 to win 8.1 was much easier and less complicated than upgrading from win 8.1 to win 10.
One was a Service Pack, Windows 10 is a full Operating System.
It isn't complicated unless you want to make it that way.
You've gotten all the instructions to make it as easy as possible.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 07, 2015, 11:20:19 PM
I was asked where the contacts are in the Mail App in Windows 10
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1438982292015-12606.png)


Hope this explains it:
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1438982370874-95110.png)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 07, 2015, 11:35:55 PM
Someone told me that you can't play a CD with windows 10.  I like to use our CD's to play music
Guess what, they lied. Windows Media Player plays CD's just fine and sounds better than any other player. You can customize the sound much more than with things like VLC. You just need to go to autorun in the Control Panel and set music CD's to open in Media Player.
When you insert a cd/dvd into the drive, you'll get a popup asking you what you want to do with this Media
Once you click on that popup, you'll see the following:
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1438983046483-89181.png)
On my system I have a choice of what program to use to play this Audio CD or, do nothing
If you had no other Player installed on your system you would only have 2 options:
Windows Media Play or Take no action.


Easy as pie. Stop procrastinating and take the plunge. Remember, once installed, you have a whole month to go back. :)

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: digmor crusher on August 08, 2015, 05:00:19 AM
Yesterdays update didn't work, blue screen popped up saying computer was going to reboot, never did, so powered off and tried again, still nothing. Got to repair screen and tried a repair, didn't work, so back to W7. At least it works perfectly on my computer and I'm familiar with it, don't need shiny and new, need something that works. W7 was the last Windows OS built for desktops, everything after needed to  be programmed for desktops, laptops, tablets, phones etc so I'm not surprised that its the best OS to date. Had a feeling these auto updates would cause big problems, going to be interesting to see how this plays out.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on August 08, 2015, 05:04:15 AM
Yesterdays update didn't work, blue screen popped up saying computer was going to reboot, never did, so powered off and tried again, still nothing. Got to repair screen and tried a repair, didn't work, so back to W7. At least it works perfectly on my computer and I'm familiar with it, don't need shiny and new, need something that works. W7 was the last Windows OS built for desktops, everything after needed to  be programmed for desktops, laptops, tablets, phones etc so I'm not surprised that its the best OS to date. Had a feeling these auto updates would cause big problems, going to be interesting to see how this plays out.
Which update was yesterday? I haven't had one since the 5th when I got the cumulative one that went fine..

Seven is not the best OS to date. 8.1 was better and 10 will be even better after the minor kinks are worked out and all the features are added.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on August 08, 2015, 01:01:56 PM
Yesterdays update didn't work, blue screen popped up saying computer was going to reboot, never did, so powered off and tried again, still nothing. Got to repair screen and tried a repair, didn't work, so back to W7. At least it works perfectly on my computer and I'm familiar with it, don't need shiny and new, need something that works. W7 was the last Windows OS built for desktops, everything after needed to  be programmed for desktops, laptops, tablets, phones etc so I'm not surprised that its the best OS to date. Had a feeling these auto updates would cause big problems, going to be interesting to see how this plays out.
.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 08, 2015, 03:52:35 PM
Yesterdays update didn't work, blue screen popped up saying computer was going to reboot, never did, so powered off and tried again, still nothing. Got to repair screen and tried a repair, didn't work, so back to W7. At least it works perfectly on my computer and I'm familiar with it, don't need shiny and new, need something that works. W7 was the last Windows OS built for desktops, everything after needed to  be programmed for desktops, laptops, tablets, phones etc so I'm not surprised that its the best OS to date. Had a feeling these auto updates would cause big problems, going to be interesting to see how this plays out.
Here is the total update history for Windows 10 since the upgrade:
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1439041683680-53869.png)
@ -midnight,
This topic is meant to help those that upgrade to Windows 10.
Letting us know you've again changed your mind and don't intend to upgrade doesn't really help anyone.
Once you upgrade and have questions about Windows 10, you know where to get answers :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 08, 2015, 04:43:58 PM
I was asked where the contacts are in the Mail App in Windows 10
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1438982292015-12606.png)


Hope this explains it:
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1438982370874-95110.png)




To Add a new Contact,
Click on Start > Under P you'll find People. Open that:
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1439044359583-87237.png)
You can also right click on People in the All apps section and select Pin To Start
Once that's done, select it and drag it where ever you want.
I put it next to the Mail App
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on August 08, 2015, 05:15:52 PM
Yesterdays update didn't work, blue screen popped up saying computer was going to reboot, never did, so powered off and tried again, still nothing. Got to repair screen and tried a repair, didn't work, so back to W7. At least it works perfectly on my computer and I'm familiar with it, don't need shiny and new, need something that works. W7 was the last Windows OS built for desktops, everything after needed to  be programmed for desktops, laptops, tablets, phones etc so I'm not surprised that its the best OS to date. Had a feeling these auto updates would cause big problems, going to be interesting to see how this plays out.

Well so far no issue on my W10 installation and any update. Of course I haven't had many and do have my setting at "schedule reboot"
I have to say however, I'm not comfortable with this direction but I doubt MS will listen to me ;)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 08, 2015, 05:35:19 PM

(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1439047872665-84026.png)

Windows 10: How to Protect Your Privacy (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2489212,00.asp?mailing_id=1422819&mailing=whatsnewnow&mailingID=96B73136E2092C0DDC9549B2000C703A)

(Revealing less about yourself also means you'll get less out of some of the features.)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on August 08, 2015, 07:30:20 PM
@bob3160

Pardon me for posting.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on August 08, 2015, 07:32:31 PM
@bob3160

Pardon me for posting.

Really ???
All I've read is 'everyone' try to assist the questions you've been asking
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on August 08, 2015, 07:39:59 PM
I think midnight needs to start using Google to search for answers and do some reading rather than asking every little thought that pops into her head and spamming topics with indecisive thoughts ::)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: essexboy on August 08, 2015, 07:41:31 PM
Personally since upgrading to windows 10 I have found it more responsive than windows 8

Using start 8 also make the location of normal tasks easy to find :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Asyn on August 08, 2015, 07:42:54 PM
I think midnight needs to start using Google to search for answers and do some reading rather than asking every little thought that pops into her head and spamming topics with indecisive thoughts ::)
Sorry Midnight, but I've to agree with Craig.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on August 08, 2015, 07:45:17 PM
I think midnight needs to start using Google to search for answers and do some reading rather than asking every little thought that pops into her head and spamming topics with indecisive thoughts ::)
Sorry Midnight, but I've to agree with Craig.

There is no disrespect meant here. Simply the questions asked, have been answered. That's it that's the fact. :)

edit: Let's move on
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on August 08, 2015, 07:58:20 PM
Personally since upgrading to windows 10 I have found it more responsive than windows 8

Using start 8 also make the location of normal tasks easy to find :)

I find W10 very smooth and having both W8.1 and W10 side by side with relatively same configuration, it feels like W10 offers more :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on August 08, 2015, 08:02:21 PM
Personally since upgrading to windows 10 I have found it more responsive than windows 8

Using start 8 also make the location of normal tasks easy to find :)

I find W10 very smooth and having both W8.1 and W10 side by side with relatively same configuration, it feels like W10 offers more :)
+1, other than a few bugs in the Edge browser relating to Java Script everything else is running great :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on August 08, 2015, 08:10:08 PM
Personally since upgrading to windows 10 I have found it more responsive than windows 8

Using start 8 also make the location of normal tasks easy to find :)

I find W10 very smooth and having both W8.1 and W10 side by side with relatively same configuration, it feels like W10 offers more :)
+1, other than a few bugs in the Edge browser relating to Java Script everything else is running great :)

The Bugs in MS EDGE for me are the most frustrating. IF they want to compete with other major Browsers I think Edge needs to be more user friendly and adaptive.
I'm sure it will get better sooner rather then later
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on August 08, 2015, 08:17:55 PM
Personally since upgrading to windows 10 I have found it more responsive than windows 8

Using start 8 also make the location of normal tasks easy to find :)

I find W10 very smooth and having both W8.1 and W10 side by side with relatively same configuration, it feels like W10 offers more :)
+1, other than a few bugs in the Edge browser relating to Java Script everything else is running great :)

The Bugs in MS EDGE for me are the most frustrating. IF they want to compete with other major Browsers I think Edge needs to be more user friendly and adaptive.
I'm sure it will get better sooner rather then later
F12 Developer tools highlights some of Edge's errors, It isn't matured yet but hopefully fixes are on the way.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: mchain on August 09, 2015, 07:54:13 AM
Thank you bob3160 for this topic and your and others' help here.   ;D

Upgraded to Win 10 Home 64-bit from Win 7 Home Premium.  Total time:  52 minutes.  Checked for WU's and picked up two more:
as well as the original one installed with the upgrade:  KB3081424.  So there are three total so far, or am I missing something?  Have the .NET Framework 4.5.2 updates (3), and Visual C++ 2010 KB's for both x64 and x32.

Must say upgrading went pretty much without a hitch, except where user accounts had significant data inside.  These accounts, when updating, took a little longer than expected to complete.  Win 10 said as much.

Only real operational issue(s) seen so far are with Windows Shell Experience Host (non-responsive or hang), explorer.exe (hang and crash), Cortana (stalls and terminated by Windows), and Edge (unfinished product).

With WSEHost, it was impossible to enter the settings window to change the default from Edge to FF until several restarts seemed to clear up non-responsiveness.  Once this issue cleared up in each account I ran, I was able to enter settings and make the changes. 

System indexing ongoing, maybe why this was an issue?  And why explorer.exe seemed to crash and hang?  Reliability Monitor shows 26 critical errors and counting in the above programs so far, not including Edge, which seems about right for an upgrade install.  But improving over time.

Edge is fast, but needs much work from what little I've seen of it.  Agree with schmidthouse here.  It does not work with Belarc Advisor; it only presents a dark screen where the system information should be; total lack of any content.  Interestingly, Belarc claims Win 10 is really Win 8.1 in FF.   :P

-Noted that Edge comes with Adobe Flash installed. 

Any way to remove this?  (If this has been pointed out earlier, sorry, I've missed it somehow.)

Last time I upgraded was with Win 98SE, 17 years ago.  Didn't work out that well back then. 
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 09, 2015, 03:28:52 PM
Off Topic:
I still have a copy of Windows 98 SE Windows 95 and disks for Windows 3.1
Even have a desktop that still accepts the 3 1/2 inch floppies. :)
Back on Topic:
Edge still has some growing up to do but with some patience, it can be turned into something quite productive:
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1439126600256-80997.png)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on August 09, 2015, 05:17:02 PM
@ mchain

Here is the Update History for my installation. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on August 09, 2015, 09:09:08 PM

Back on Topic:
Edge still has some growing up to do but with some patience, it can be turned into something quite productive:
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1439126600256-80997.png)

I think that's true and am impressed with the direction intended.
I only hope that advances are made sooner rather then later. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: mchain on August 10, 2015, 07:07:35 AM
@ mchain

Here is the Update History for my installation. :)
What I have.  Edge comes with Flash as per Google Chrome?  Or not?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 10, 2015, 03:54:55 PM
@ mchain

Here is the Update History for my installation. :)
What I have.  Edge comes with Flash as per Google Chrome?  Or not?
This should answer your question:
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=93544.msg1241749#msg1241749 (https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=93544.msg1241749#msg1241749)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: mchain on August 10, 2015, 05:00:02 PM
Thanks.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 10, 2015, 05:17:56 PM
Ten Tips and Tricks for Windows 10 (http://www.slashgear.com/ten-tips-and-tricks-for-windows-10-08396075/)
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1439219839079-76271.png)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 12, 2015, 04:12:14 PM
For the paranoid among us. :)
Windows Tracking Disable Tool (https://github.com/10se1ucgo/DisableWinTracking/releases)
(Use at your own risk)
Since I'm not so paranoid, this isn't a tool I'll be using. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Lisandro on August 12, 2015, 04:50:47 PM
For the paranoid among us. :)
Windows Tracking Disable Tool (https://github.com/10se1ucgo/DisableWinTracking/releases)
(Use at your own risk)
Since I'm not so paranoid, this isn't a tool I'll be using. :)
Nice find. Thanks!
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Pondus on August 13, 2015, 09:13:11 AM
Sony tells VAIO owners not to upgrade to Windows 10 until drivers are ready in October
http://www.neowin.net/news/sony-tells-vaio-owners-not-to-upgrade-to-windows-10-until-drivers-are-ready-in-october

http://esupport.sony.com/LA/p/os10upgrade.pl?template_id=1

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Rednose on August 14, 2015, 12:42:48 AM
For the paranoid among us. :)
Windows Tracking Disable Tool (https://github.com/10se1ucgo/DisableWinTracking/releases)
(Use at your own risk)
Since I'm not so paranoid, this isn't a tool I'll be using. :)

Bob really :)

Don't you understand that Privacy has nothing to do with being paranoid, but everything with Security.
The smaller your fingerprint on the Internet is, the safer you are !

Greetz, Red.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Rednose on August 14, 2015, 12:50:30 AM
Btw I get the impression on different Fora I visit, that updates from Win 7 to Win 10 suffer with more problems, than those from Win 8.

Greetz, Red.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Charyb on August 14, 2015, 01:40:38 AM
Windows 8.1 seemed much more stable to me. Lately, I have been receiving an error while opening a pdf with the MS Reader app, an error at login showing something like group policy was unable to start, and random long boot times. Sometimes the computer will show the welcome screen in less than 20 seconds other times I wait for over a minute. I suppose it could be updating but it doesn't mention that it is. The only security is Avast Pro with Windows Firewall Control 4. Still has some weird stability issues that I didn't see in 8.1. I hate to say it, but kind of Vista-ish.

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on August 14, 2015, 02:08:47 AM
Windows 8.1 seemed much more stable to me.

I also feel W8.1 was very solid.
 W10 is showing the "odd glitch"/questionable stuff.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 14, 2015, 02:19:40 AM
For the paranoid among us. :)
Windows Tracking Disable Tool (https://github.com/10se1ucgo/DisableWinTracking/releases)
(Use at your own risk)
Since I'm not so paranoid, this isn't a tool I'll be using. :)

Bob really :)


Don't you understand that Privacy has nothing to do with being paranoid, but everything with Security.
The smaller your fingerprint on the Internet is, the safer you are !

Greetz, Red.
Sorry Rednose,
there is no privacy on the internet. There hasn't been any for several years. :)
I've preached for a long time about Windows 8 and Windows 8.1 as to how good an OS it is.
Funny, I received a lot of negative remarks back then.  :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on August 14, 2015, 02:27:40 AM
For the paranoid among us. :)
Windows Tracking Disable Tool (https://github.com/10se1ucgo/DisableWinTracking/releases)
(Use at your own risk)
Since I'm not so paranoid, this isn't a tool I'll be using. :)

Bob really :)


Don't you understand that Privacy has nothing to do with being paranoid, but everything with Security.
The smaller your fingerprint on the Internet is, the safer you are !

Greetz, Red.
Sorry Rednose,
there is no privacy on the internet. There hasn't been any for several years. :)
I've preached for a long time about Windows 8 and Windows 8.1 as to how good an OS it is.
Funny, I received a lot of negative remarks back then. :)

Not from me. ;)
Frankly I was on board from the beginning as I upgraded from xp to W8 Preview and the rest is history.
I'm also excited about  W10 although it is in it's infancy I think :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 14, 2015, 06:03:35 PM
How to Uninstall Windows 10’s Built-in Apps (and How to Reinstall Them) (http://www.howtogeek.com/224798/how-to-uninstall-windows-10s-built-in-apps-and-how-to-reinstall-them/)
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1439568197723-34289.png)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on August 16, 2015, 08:30:37 PM
Just installed Windows 10 on my grandpas PC:

Windows 10 Home 32-Bit
AMD Athlon X64 Dual-Core 2.6 GHz
1 GB DDR2 RAM (Had to remove 1 GB cause it was faulty)
320 GB WD Harddrive
NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS

700/1024 MB RAM used on Idle, sometimes a bit less.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 16, 2015, 08:52:53 PM
Just installed Windows 10 on my grandpas PC:

Windows 10 Home 32-Bit
AMD Athlon X64 Dual-Core 2.6 GHz
1 GB DDR2 RAM (Had to remove 1 GB cause it was faulty)
320 GB WD Harddrive
NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS

700/1024 MB RAM used on Idle, sometimes a bit less.
If you expect Grandpa to be happy, I suggest you upgrade this Computer to at least 2 gig of ram. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on August 16, 2015, 08:56:00 PM
Nah, we will see how it will work out :)

It had 2 GB before, but i had to remove one of the RAM sticks.

Also we might need to get a license as well, since its not activated.

By the way: I installed password-protected Avast Free on it. :D
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 16, 2015, 09:40:45 PM
Nah, we will see how it will work out :)

It had 2 GB before, but i had to remove one of the RAM sticks.

Also we might need to get a license as well, since its not activated.

By the way: I installed password-protected Avast Free on it. :D
Why not activated ??? What OS was on the system before conversion ???
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on August 16, 2015, 09:49:47 PM
I clean installed, it had Windows 7 before, but so broken it wouldnt be able to get the latest Windows updates for the Upgrade :)

Thats why its not activated.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: HDW38 on August 16, 2015, 10:04:52 PM

Since I'm not so paranoid, this isn't a tool I'll be using. :)

Are you really sure, Bob?
 ;)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 16, 2015, 10:42:01 PM

Since I'm not so paranoid, this isn't a tool I'll be using. :)

Are you really sure, Bob?
 ;)
Positive. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Pondus on August 17, 2015, 11:12:49 PM
50 million users now    www.winbeta.org/news/there-are-now-over-50-million-people-using-windows-10-worldwide

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on August 18, 2015, 08:12:29 PM
Announcing Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 10525

http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/08/18/announcing-windows-10-insider-preview-build-10525/
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: HDW38 on August 18, 2015, 09:26:45 PM

Since I'm not so paranoid, this isn't a tool I'll be using. :)

Are you really sure, Bob?
 ;)
Positive. :)
Seems to be the right decision. I love it.  ;D
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on August 18, 2015, 11:25:42 PM
Announcing Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 10525

http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/08/18/announcing-windows-10-insider-preview-build-10525/
I am not opting in to the Insider Preview program. I'll wait for the changes they determine are good enough to be pushed as regular updates. Insiders don't get just an update, they get a whole new version of 10 that has to be installed just like before 10 was released. I say no thanks. I was an Insider during the preview phase when I had 10 in a dual boot configuration but now that I have 10 as the only OS on my main system, I'm not taking chances with it like that.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on August 18, 2015, 11:31:57 PM
Im installing this Build right now :)

I have to reinstall anyway soon, so no problem.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 19, 2015, 12:13:30 AM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1439935837075-46338.png)
I have a 32 bit and a 64 bit Computer that are signed up to insider build updates. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 19, 2015, 02:29:42 AM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1439944058073-1041.png)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: mchain on August 19, 2015, 07:32:39 AM
If you need to find out what a recent security update in Windows 10 is about, open settings and go to Update & Security.

Click Update & Security>Advanced Options>View your update history.  There are now 9 total updates since July 29th, 2015.

Latest two are KB3081444 and KB3081441, which came in 08/18/2015.  More information about either can be gotten by clicking the blue hyperlink under Successfully Installed.  Clicking this link will result in drop-down window with a direct hyperlink to the KB in question.  Click Support info for a direct link to the KB article.

See attached below:

URL for same link:  https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3081444 (https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3081444) 
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 19, 2015, 02:13:22 PM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1439944058073-1041.png)
If you need to find out what a recent security update in Windows 10 is about, open settings and go to Update & Security.

Click Update & Security>Advanced Options>View your update history.  There are now 9 total updates since July 29th, 2015.

Latest two are KB3081444 and KB3081441, which came in 08/18/2015.  More information about either can be gotten by clicking the blue hyperlink under Successfully Installed.  Clicking this link will result in drop-down window with a direct hyperlink to the KB in question.  Click Support info for a direct link to the KB article.

See attached below:

URL for same link:  https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3081444 (https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3081444) 

Be aware that once you've updated to the latest preview release, the history information mentioned by mchain
is no longer available.
You've in essence just installed a new OS so there aren't yet any updates. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on August 20, 2015, 12:07:32 AM
So how's the preview build?
Anything new and nice?
Faster, Slower?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on August 20, 2015, 12:15:30 AM
For me its faster :)

They also added this: http://prntscr.com/86m9ae
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on August 20, 2015, 01:06:55 AM
For me its faster :)

They also added this: http://prntscr.com/86m9ae

Thanks Steven.
Any improvement with Edge or is further development to come later in the Preview (add-ons/extensions etc)?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 20, 2015, 01:12:59 AM
For me its faster :)

They also added this: http://prntscr.com/86m9ae (http://prntscr.com/86m9ae)

Thanks Steven.
Any improvement with Edge or is further development to come later in the Preview (add-ons/extensions etc)?
It's still on the Edge of getting new improvements. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on August 20, 2015, 01:19:42 AM
For me its faster :)

They also added this: http://prntscr.com/86m9ae (http://prntscr.com/86m9ae)

Thanks Steven.
Any improvement with Edge or is further development to come later in the Preview (add-ons/extensions etc)?
It's still on the Edge of getting new improvements. :)

lol
Thanks for clearing that up Bob. ;)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on August 20, 2015, 06:11:04 AM
For me its faster :)

They also added this: http://prntscr.com/86m9ae
Okay, what did they add, since that link does not show anything?

Never mind it worked by pasting the link in a new tab.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 20, 2015, 03:56:50 PM
For me its faster :)

They also added this: http://prntscr.com/86m9ae (http://prntscr.com/86m9ae)
Okay, what did they add, since that link does not show anything?

Never mind it worked by pasting the link in a new tab.
If you were using Chrome, all you needed to do was hover your mouse over the link and this is what you would have seen:
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1440078923952-48133.png)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: abruptum on August 20, 2015, 11:48:33 PM
Russian Lawyers Seeking Windows 10 Ban Because It “Spies on Its Users”

  http://news.softpedia.com/news/russian-lawyers-seek-windows-10-ban-because-it-spies-on-its-users-489691.shtml
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on August 20, 2015, 11:53:53 PM
Windows just opened up this page in a new tab on Firefox for me:

http://www.bing.com/search?q=hilfe+erhalten+f%C3%BCr+windows+10&filters=guid:%2284cbd46e-e07b-4489-a5c7-bc90c3021aa2%22%20lang:%22de-de%22&form=S00028

Why the heck?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: mchain on August 21, 2015, 03:46:08 AM
Windows just opened up this page in a new tab on Firefox for me:

http://www.bing.com/search?q=hilfe+erhalten+f%C3%BCr+windows+10&filters=guid:%2284cbd46e-e07b-4489-a5c7-bc90c3021aa2%22%20lang:%22de-de%22&form=S00028

Why the heck?
Likely Windows 10 doing it's thing in bringing you a personalized browsing experience.  Think Bing/Cortana hard at work for you.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on August 21, 2015, 12:01:25 PM
@mcchain: Im neither using Cortana nor Bing .......

:D
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: stam1na on August 21, 2015, 07:17:47 PM
I have wlan and have it enabled, but wlan icon does not show in taskbar, next to the clock (bottom right corner). I wonder why.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on August 21, 2015, 07:36:23 PM
I have wlan and have it enabled, but wlan icon does not show in taskbar, next to the clock (bottom right corner). I wonder why.

If you go to "notifications and Actions" in Settings you can pick and choose what icons show in the taskbar. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on August 21, 2015, 08:23:02 PM
@mcchain: Im neither using Cortana nor Bing .......

:D
Same here.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 21, 2015, 11:56:01 PM
The Roolback feature can be a lifesaver. It can also be a Windows 10 breaker.
I ran into a problem a few days ago on one of my laptops after using the Rollback function.
More on that topic at:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-windows_store/windows-store-not-working-after-a-rollback-in/2ecb662c-8271-49e3-867a-721ec305951b?msgId=c3d41574-24c5-4e8d-9a3b-553da3a15cd1 (http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-windows_store/windows-store-not-working-after-a-rollback-in/2ecb662c-8271-49e3-867a-721ec305951b?msgId=c3d41574-24c5-4e8d-9a3b-553da3a15cd1)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: mchain on August 22, 2015, 12:21:44 AM
@mcchain: Im neither using Cortana nor Bing .......

:D
Well, if you've run Edge, then that is set to use both Cortana and Bing natively.  You'll need to go into Advanced Settings within Edge to disable relevant stuff there.  Not something everyone knows about, and the data stream in Windows 10 is tightly integrated everywhere and in so many different places that it is hard to nail all of them down.

Example:  (You are offline, not connected to the Internet)  You run a not-so-well known program, such as HardwareMonitor, as a .zip file, IE's Smart Screen will pop up and say it can't connect to the Internet, and you have to choose whether to connect, Allow, or Deny.  I'd imagine there is the possibility Smart Screen reports back to Microsoft what your decision is, and what program it is you are trying to run. 

You do not have to connect to allow the chosen program to run, not yet, anyway, just so you know.

So, there's that.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Pondus on August 22, 2015, 04:27:34 PM
Windows Hello can tell twins apart and keep accounts secure from identical siblings
www.windowscentral.com/windows-hello-able-tell-twins-apart-and-keep-their-accounts-secure-identical-siblings

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 22, 2015, 04:51:55 PM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1440254929708-75971.png) (https://youtu.be/JKlMQXHkous?list=PL1_9cbkt8g22FBWDUqqNyELZHO0prcczB)
https://youtu.be/JKlMQXHkous?list=PL1_9cbkt8g22FBWDUqqNyELZHO0prcczB (https://youtu.be/JKlMQXHkous?list=PL1_9cbkt8g22FBWDUqqNyELZHO0prcczB)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on August 23, 2015, 02:51:57 PM
The state Duma asks Moscow to ban the use of Windows 10: “This is a threat to national security”

http://appleapple.top/the-state-duma-asks-moscow-to-ban-the-use-of-windows-10-this-is-a-threat-to-national-security/
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 23, 2015, 03:45:37 PM
The state Duma asks Moscow to ban the use of Windows 10: “This is a threat to national security”

http://appleapple.top/the-state-duma-asks-moscow-to-ban-the-use-of-windows-10-this-is-a-threat-to-national-security/ (http://appleapple.top/the-state-duma-asks-moscow-to-ban-the-use-of-windows-10-this-is-a-threat-to-national-security/)
Someone else looking to make a name for himself. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: DavidR on August 23, 2015, 04:03:03 PM
“This is a threat to national security” my bottom.

Since when was privacy a 'threat to national security' - I think they are more concerned about its ability to uninstall cracked/hacked software ;)

The first line is a great contradiction:
Quote from: extract of link
The Deputy Chairman of the state Duma from fraction “Fair Russia” Nikolay Levichev

After that I found it very hard to commit to reading it.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on August 23, 2015, 09:04:51 PM
New Windows 7/8/8.1 updates spy on you just like Windows 10


http://www.techworm.net/2015/08/new-windows-788-1-updates-spy-on-you-just-like-windows-10.html


Im done with Windoof if this keeps going on.................
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 23, 2015, 09:10:04 PM
New Windows 7/8/8.1 updates spy on you just like Windows 10


http://www.techworm.net/2015/08/new-windows-788-1-updates-spy-on-you-just-like-windows-10.html (http://www.techworm.net/2015/08/new-windows-788-1-updates-spy-on-you-just-like-windows-10.html)


Im done with Windoof if this keeps going on.................
Most software reports back to home. That includes Microsoft and also Avast.
Amazing how when the company is Microsoft, people just simply assume the worst.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on August 23, 2015, 09:15:17 PM
Windows 10 banned by torrent trackers due to privacy concerns


http://www.winbeta.org/news/windows-10-banned-torrent-trackers-due-privacy-concerns
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 23, 2015, 09:18:22 PM
Windows 10 banned by torrent trackers due to privacy concerns


http://www.winbeta.org/news/windows-10-banned-torrent-trackers-due-privacy-concerns (http://www.winbeta.org/news/windows-10-banned-torrent-trackers-due-privacy-concerns)
If I were sharing things that might not be exactly legal to share, I'd be concerned too.
To me this isn't a reason to not install Windows 10. I have it on 6 computers and laptops at home. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: DavidR on August 23, 2015, 09:27:26 PM
Windows 10 banned by torrent trackers due to privacy concerns


http://www.winbeta.org/news/windows-10-banned-torrent-trackers-due-privacy-concerns (http://www.winbeta.org/news/windows-10-banned-torrent-trackers-due-privacy-concerns)
If I were sharing things that might not be exactly legal to share, I'd be concerned too.
To me this isn't a reason to not install Windows 10. I have it on 6 computers and laptops at home. :)

Most people fear its ability to detect hacked/cracked software and its ability to disable them, not the privacy concern ;)

No wonder torrent sources are concerned.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on August 23, 2015, 10:55:46 PM
New Windows 7/8/8.1 updates spy on you just like Windows 10


http://www.techworm.net/2015/08/new-windows-788-1-updates-spy-on-you-just-like-windows-10.html


Im done with Windoof if this keeps going on.................
As someone once said, "Much ado about nothing".

To another post, I wonder if Google products are banned in Russia.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on August 23, 2015, 10:59:33 PM
Windows 10 banned by torrent trackers due to privacy concerns


http://www.winbeta.org/news/windows-10-banned-torrent-trackers-due-privacy-concerns (http://www.winbeta.org/news/windows-10-banned-torrent-trackers-due-privacy-concerns)
If I were sharing things that might not be exactly legal to share, I'd be concerned too.
To me this isn't a reason to not install Windows 10. I have it on 6 computers and laptops at home. :)

Most people fear its ability to detect hacked/cracked software and its ability to disable them, not the privacy concern ;)

No wonder torrent sources are concerned.
Not everything that comes via torrent is cracked/hacked or otherwise illegal. I'll have to check my torrent sites to see if they still work.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 23, 2015, 11:11:28 PM
Windows 10 banned by torrent trackers due to privacy concerns


http://www.winbeta.org/news/windows-10-banned-torrent-trackers-due-privacy-concerns (http://www.winbeta.org/news/windows-10-banned-torrent-trackers-due-privacy-concerns)
If I were sharing things that might not be exactly legal to share, I'd be concerned too.
To me this isn't a reason to not install Windows 10. I have it on 6 computers and laptops at home. :)

Most people fear its ability to detect hacked/cracked software and its ability to disable them, not the privacy concern ;)

No wonder torrent sources are concerned.
Not everything that comes via torrent is cracked/hacked or otherwise illegal. I'll have to check my torrent sites to see if they still work.
The problem with downloading anything from one of those sites is that you have no way of knowing if what you're getting from there isn't something that will infect your system.
Why go to a torrent site when there are alternatives.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on August 24, 2015, 04:26:14 PM
I'm ready to upgrade to win 10 but I would like to how I can go back to win 8.1.  I read a post about it but can't find it.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Charyb on August 24, 2015, 04:37:46 PM
I'm ready to upgrade to win 10 but I would like to how I can go back to win 8.1.  I read a post about it but can't find it.

Settings -> Update and Security -> Recovery

see attachment
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 24, 2015, 04:43:34 PM
@-midnight,
This may help you:
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=156141.msg1238008#msg1238008 (https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=156141.msg1238008#msg1238008)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Charyb on August 24, 2015, 04:51:24 PM
@bob3160
Does your Windows 8.1 or 7 key become invalid after 30 days of having Windows 10 installed?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: abruptum on August 24, 2015, 05:27:06 PM
New Windows 7/8/8.1 updates spy on you just like Windows 10


http://www.techworm.net/2015/08/new-windows-788-1-updates-spy-on-you-just-like-windows-10.html


Im done with Windoof if this keeps going on.................
I agree. I think I'll try Zorin OS since I don't know anything about Linux.

http://zorin-os.com/

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 24, 2015, 05:37:09 PM
@bob3160
Does your Windows 8.1 or 7 key become invalid after 30 days of having Windows 10 installed?
Since you have 30 days after the upgrade to roll back to your previous version, the answer is no.
Once upgrade to Windows 10, you no longer need a key. Your registration or validation is embedded with your system.
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1440430406688-39743.png)
I have already re-installed Windows 10 on this computer to clear up a problem after a rollback from the preview release 10525
from a USB I had created for that function and any new installs.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 24, 2015, 06:47:36 PM
(http://cdn9.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/650x300x00_lead_image_search_box.png.pagespeed.ic.RmEw0cM6DK.png)
Make the Windows 10 Start Menu and Cortana Search Google Instead of Bing (http://www.howtogeek.com/226638/make-the-windows-10-start-menu-and-cortana-search-google-instead-of-bing/)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 29, 2015, 10:22:53 PM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1440883273957-45307.png)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on August 29, 2015, 10:56:44 PM
Windows 10 banned by torrent trackers due to privacy concerns


http://www.winbeta.org/news/windows-10-banned-torrent-trackers-due-privacy-concerns (http://www.winbeta.org/news/windows-10-banned-torrent-trackers-due-privacy-concerns)
If I were sharing things that might not be exactly legal to share, I'd be concerned too.
To me this isn't a reason to not install Windows 10. I have it on 6 computers and laptops at home. :)

Most people fear its ability to detect hacked/cracked software and its ability to disable them, not the privacy concern ;)

No wonder torrent sources are concerned.
Not everything that comes via torrent is cracked/hacked or otherwise illegal. I'll have to check my torrent sites to see if they still work.
The problem with downloading anything from one of those sites is that you have no way of knowing if what you're getting from there isn't something that will infect your system.
Why go to a torrent site when there are alternatives.
Sometimes, there are no alternatives. I have never gotten infected from a torrent download. I have gotten some false positives from my AV though and a few PUP detections which were harmless.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on August 30, 2015, 10:13:30 PM
So here is something strange, at least new to me.
Screenshot 1 show Windows updating at 56%
And Screenshot 2 show the component being updated and reads "waiting for download". Ths component is "Synaptics- Point Drawing- Synaptics SMBus Touchpad. (Not a MS update)

The strange part is, it's been like that since the updates on Aug 27 I'm assuming since I noticed 2 days ago.
So wonder how/if that will effect future updates if it doesn't clear itself.

Anyone see anything like this on their W10 updates? ???
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 30, 2015, 10:26:01 PM
Try a reboot and then force it to check for updates again.
Are you on Insider build updates or not ?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on August 30, 2015, 10:30:21 PM
Try a reboot and then force it to check for updates again.
Are you on Insider build updates or not ?

Well being I noticed it two days ago there have been many reboots and unfortunately when I go to the Windows Update Page shown on Screenshot 1 it's just always like that/there.
Can't force an update when it's already in update mode Bob

edit: Simply put it has been stuck like that for at least 2 days
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 30, 2015, 11:22:29 PM
System restore ???
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: DJBone on August 30, 2015, 11:35:50 PM
You could try Windows troubleshooting. It worked for me.

DJBone
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on August 31, 2015, 12:31:53 AM
You could try Windows troubleshooting. It worked for me.

DJBone
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1440977448061-52792.png)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: DJBone on August 31, 2015, 09:02:36 AM
Thanks for the screenshot Bob. :)

DJBone
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on August 31, 2015, 09:40:20 AM
@schmidthouse, if the trouble shooter doesn't resolve your updating issue " which I doubt it will " as there has been numerous issues lately with a number of Win10 updates getting stuck at a certain percentage and the only option that has fixed it for me on 3 of my systems so far is as below.

Step :1

a. Press Windows Key + X.
b. Click on ‘Command Prompt (Admin)

Click ‘Yes’ if it prompts for UAC(User Account Control).
c. copy/paste the following commands into the command prompt one after the other and press enter after each command

net stop wuauserv

net stop bits

net stop cryptsvc

Keep Command Prompt window opened.

Step :2

Rename Windows Update folders

At the command prompt, copy/paste the following commands, and then press enter after each command:
ren %systemroot%\System32\Catroot2 Catroot2.old
ren %systemroot%\SoftwareDistribution SoftwareDistribution.old

Then copy/paste the following commands and press enter after each command:

net start wuauserv

net start bits

net start cryptsvc

Once that is done close the command window and retry the Windows update


Note! once the windows updates have gone through you can navigate to the two renamed "OLD" folders and delete them :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on August 31, 2015, 04:56:34 PM
Thanks guys for the input. Not happy but I will try the suggestions probably the troubleshooter first as is obviously easiest.
Having said that, I am curious as to whether or not any further updates (the upcoming updates) would clear it by itself
Probably wouldn't hurt to wait and see......or not :-\

Thanks Craig for the detailed suggestion. It good to have options. ;)

edit: Tried Windows Troubleshooter unfortunately with NO success
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on September 04, 2015, 03:17:32 AM
Try a reboot and then force it to check for updates again.
Are you on Insider build updates or not ?

Well being I noticed it two days ago there have been many reboots and unfortunately when I go to the Windows Update Page shown on Screenshot 1 it's just always like that/there.
Can't force an update when it's already in update mode Bob

edit: Simply put it has been stuck like that for at least 2 days



So an update.
Thanks Craig for your info as that resolved the issue which then allowed me to hide the messed up "Synaptics" update so it wouldn't keep trying to update.
Unfortunately, a System Restore didn't solve the issue as immediately it went into update and stuck there again.  :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on September 04, 2015, 03:45:43 AM
Your welcome :)

Any Synaptics version after 16.2 screws around with my system, you might find a better version on the Synaptics website as that's where I got my update to suit Win8.1 and it still works with Win10, Asus only listed my latest driver as 15.... and that was for Win7 but lost some of the functionality after the Win8 upgrade.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on September 04, 2015, 03:50:22 AM
Your welcome :)

Any Synaptics version after 16.2 screws around with my system, you might find a better version on the Synaptics website as that's where I got my update to suit Win8.1 and it still works with Win10, Asus only listed my latest driver as 15.... and that was for Win7 but lost some of the functionality after the Win8 upgrade.

Yes. Well my thinking is, everything Driver wise is working just fine. I've also read that this particular update with accompanying errro message is a messed up update.
So all is good.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Pondus on September 04, 2015, 10:56:10 AM
Windows 10 “Threshold 2” update now slated for November release
http://www.winbeta.org/news/windows-10-threshold-2-update-now-slated-for-november-launch


Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on September 04, 2015, 02:25:02 PM
Windows 10 “Threshold 2” update now slated for November release
http://www.winbeta.org/news/windows-10-threshold-2-update-now-slated-for-november-launch (http://www.winbeta.org/news/windows-10-threshold-2-update-now-slated-for-november-launch)
Those of us on the Developers channel, may already be using that build. :)
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1441373155000-59699.png)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on September 04, 2015, 04:59:18 PM
Master Tutorial to Make Windows 10 Super Fast (http://www.askvg.com/master-tutorial-to-make-windows-10-super-fast/)
(An excellent tutorial from http://www.askvg.com/ (http://www.askvg.com/))
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on September 05, 2015, 03:34:14 PM

(http://www.computershopper.com/var/ezwebin_site/storage/images/windows-10/1211034-10-eng-US/windows-10.jpg)
Windows 10 Guide: Essential Keyboard Shortcuts (http://www.computershopper.com/windows-10/windows-10-guide-essential-keyboard-shortcuts)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on September 08, 2015, 12:52:28 AM

Help with your Privacy settings in Windows 10 (http://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10)
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1441666149815-44426.png)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: JukkaG on September 09, 2015, 09:26:58 PM
Does anyone know what DataExchangeHost.exe does? I noticed it appearing after updating to Windows 10 and that it sometimes starts in background randomly. Looking at memory and CPU usage it doesn't seem to do much (or really anything at all), but I'd like to know what it actually does and why it starts - googe didn't give any relevant info. It is located in System32 folder and seems to be a legit Windows progress, Avast or VirusTotal don't react to it and it looks like it is properly signed.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on September 09, 2015, 10:37:55 PM
Does anyone know what DataExchangeHost.exe does? I noticed it appearing after updating to Windows 10 and that it sometimes starts in background randomly. Looking at memory and CPU usage it doesn't seem to do much (or really anything at all), but I'd like to know what it actually does and why it starts - googe didn't give any relevant info. It is located in System32 folder and seems to be a legit Windows progress, Avast or VirusTotal don't react to it and it looks like it is properly signed.
I haven't found anything on DataExchangeHost.exe. In which folder is this file located ???
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: JukkaG on September 09, 2015, 11:07:16 PM
Does anyone know what DataExchangeHost.exe does? I noticed it appearing after updating to Windows 10 and that it sometimes starts in background randomly. Looking at memory and CPU usage it doesn't seem to do much (or really anything at all), but I'd like to know what it actually does and why it starts - googe didn't give any relevant info. It is located in System32 folder and seems to be a legit Windows progress, Avast or VirusTotal don't react to it and it looks like it is properly signed.
I haven't found anything on DataExchangeHost.exe. In which folder is this file located ???
C:\Windows\System32

Here's a VirusTotal of it:
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/cde14088f28f83a61e1d2bd77e7ba2c3ac1bf7521e74f2f9b9882e6c82381413/analysis/1441832777/

It's also possible that it came with Office 2013, I installed it roughly the same time as Windows 10.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on September 09, 2015, 11:36:57 PM
http://www.herdprotect.com/dataexchangehost.exe-c5e2dd5288d208ac01bed3ad675dfa0b73ae3307.aspx (http://www.herdprotect.com/dataexchangehost.exe-c5e2dd5288d208ac01bed3ad675dfa0b73ae3307.aspx)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on September 10, 2015, 02:59:28 PM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1441889355809-33381.png)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1dfA-ITeJI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1dfA-ITeJI)
Changing the default Search Engine in Edge is easy if you know how.I Hope this helps make the task an easy one.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on September 12, 2015, 03:37:18 PM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1442064818300-84867.png)
If you have a Program or a Game you just can't live without,
Check if it's compatible with Windows 10 Before you Convert. (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/compatibility/CompatCenter/Home)


You'll find more detailed information on this topic at:
https://davescomputertips.com/find-out-if-your-favorite-programsgames-will-run-on-windows-10/ (https://davescomputertips.com/find-out-if-your-favorite-programsgames-will-run-on-windows-10/)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on September 13, 2015, 06:29:40 PM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1442064818300-84867.png)
If you have a Program or a Game you just can't live without,
Check if it's compatible with Windows 10 Before you Convert. (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/compatibility/CompatCenter/Home)


You'll find more detailed information on this topic at:
https://davescomputertips.com/find-out-if-your-favorite-programsgames-will-run-on-windows-10/ (https://davescomputertips.com/find-out-if-your-favorite-programsgames-will-run-on-windows-10/)
Good site. One of the reasons I wasn't going to upgrade my HP Win 7 laptop is that it has a Lightscribe capable DVD burner that I use to label discs and I didn't know if the Lightscribe software would work in Win 10 since it is no longer supported. The site says it is compatible. One of my games isn't but I have a modified version of the old Win98 game that was modified for Vista and it works fine.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Rednose on September 15, 2015, 12:44:27 AM
News from The Netherlands :)

According to the ACM ( Autoriteit Consument & Markt = Autority Consumer & Market ) it seems that Microsoft is violating artikel 11.7a of the Dutch Telecom Law, by downloading Windows 10 installation files withought informing - and approval from Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 users.

https://www.security.nl/posting/443413/ACM%3A+cookiewet+lijkt+van+toepassing+op+Windows+10-download

Good that we have such law in my country 8)

Greetz, Red.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: HDW38 on September 15, 2015, 12:07:17 PM
Good that we have such law in my country 8)
I don't know, if we have something like that in Germany.
 :-[
HDW
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on September 15, 2015, 02:21:58 PM
Bringing a lawsuit and winning it are also two different topics. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on September 15, 2015, 06:03:44 PM
News from The Netherlands :)

According to the ACM ( Autoriteit Consument & Markt = Autority Consumer & Market ) it seems that Microsoft is violating artikel 11.7a of the Dutch Telecom Law, by downloading Windows 10 installation files withought informing - and approval from Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 users.

https://www.security.nl/posting/443413/ACM%3A+cookiewet+lijkt+van+toepassing+op+Windows+10-download

Good that we have such law in my country 8)

Greetz, Red.
There are no Win 10 installation files on my Win 7 laptop so I don't get this at all. I just did not install the update that installs "get Windows 10" so even that icon is not present. Even when that little program is present, I never saw any downloads of 3 to 6 GB of data.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on September 19, 2015, 05:48:41 PM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1442677594023-85386.png)
More after I finish updating. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on September 19, 2015, 10:32:32 PM
Something new in this latest preview build:
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1442694422176-83386.png)


(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1442694576095-15301.png)


(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1442694647304-92164.png)
More information on all the Updates, Fixes and known problems:
http://www.askvg.com/new-update-build-of-windows-10-technical-preview-now-available-for-download/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AskVG+%28AskVG%29 (http://www.askvg.com/new-update-build-of-windows-10-technical-preview-now-available-for-download/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AskVG+%28AskVG%29)



Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on September 22, 2015, 05:21:55 PM
I personally am getting very anoyed at the Windows 10 UPDATE process and the almost constant issues with updates not installing.
No other OS I've ever used has had this BS with updates.
Unacceptable.
http://windowsitpro.com/windows-10/fix-flash-player-security-update-install-failure-windows-10 (http://windowsitpro.com/windows-10/fix-flash-player-security-update-install-failure-windows-10)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on September 22, 2015, 07:38:56 PM
I personally am getting very anoyed at the Windows 10 UPDATE process and the almost constant issues with updates not installing.
No other OS I've ever used has had this BS with updates.
Unacceptable.
http://windowsitpro.com/windows-10/fix-flash-player-security-update-install-failure-windows-10 (http://windowsitpro.com/windows-10/fix-flash-player-security-update-install-failure-windows-10)
I couldn't get that particular update to install either and had to download and manually install it.  However, it's the first time that has ever happened to me in any version of Windows.

I just saw in another forum where people using the latest preview build did not have any problem with installing that update. Interesting.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on September 22, 2015, 08:11:10 PM
I personally am getting very anoyed at the Windows 10 UPDATE process and the almost constant issues with updates not installing.
No other OS I've ever used has had this BS with updates.
Unacceptable.
http://windowsitpro.com/windows-10/fix-flash-player-security-update-install-failure-windows-10 (http://windowsitpro.com/windows-10/fix-flash-player-security-update-install-failure-windows-10)
I couldn't get that particular update to install either and had to download and manually install it.  However, it's the first time that has ever happened to me in any version of Windows.

I just saw in another forum where people using the latest preview build did not have any problem with installing that update. Interesting.
We had no trouble with it since it doesn't apply to build 10547.
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1442945400181-26157.png)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on September 23, 2015, 11:33:41 PM
Transfer files to your Windows 10 PC with a free tool. (http://download.cnet.com/blog/download-blog/transfer-files-to-your-windows-10-pc-with-a-free-tool)
(http://dl1.cbsistatic.com/i/2015/09/01/fcff6568-8336-40b0-8458-dca6442e2d2d/c64683a8dfc3b878f4bf98b8af4b3c33/pcmover-screen2.png)
(This tool is free till 8/31/2016 after that date it will cost you $30.00)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on September 24, 2015, 12:32:50 AM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1443047280866-28682.png) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aq9rRNEBu-I)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aq9rRNEBu-I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aq9rRNEBu-I)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on September 29, 2015, 01:28:16 AM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1443480503693-77267.png)
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rabeaFttvE)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rabeaFttvE[/b][/url][/font][/color]
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Asyn on September 30, 2015, 06:30:22 AM
Privacy and Windows 10
http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/09/28/privacy-and-windows-10/
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on September 30, 2015, 12:39:46 PM
Privacy and Windows 10
http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/09/28/privacy-and-windows-10/ (http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/09/28/privacy-and-windows-10/)
If the explanation from MS isn't enough, you could always use:
http://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10 (http://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10) to ensure your privacy. (If you still actually think there is privacy on the internet.)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on September 30, 2015, 05:30:52 PM
Privacy and Windows 10
http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/09/28/privacy-and-windows-10/

Link comes up "Page  not found" for me
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on September 30, 2015, 05:32:50 PM
Privacy and Windows 10
http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/09/28/privacy-and-windows-10/

Link comes up "Page  not found" for me
Same here, it did work earlier though.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: skinnypops on September 30, 2015, 10:09:42 PM
link just worked for me.

skinnypops
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 01, 2015, 10:56:36 AM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1443689716978-53203.png)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvpiqanCp7M
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on October 01, 2015, 10:57:52 AM
OFF-TOPIC:

Avast 2016 Beta 1 is being pushed out as update right now :)

Lets see if its compatible.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 01, 2015, 11:09:01 AM
OFF-TOPIC:

Avast 2016 Beta 1 is being pushed out as update right now :)

Lets see if its compatible.
??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Asyn on October 01, 2015, 11:12:43 AM
OFF-TOPIC: Avast 2016 Beta 1 is being pushed out as update right now :)

Lets see if its compatible.
??? ??? ???
Available in Europe, see: https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=177124.0
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 01, 2015, 11:17:01 AM
OFF-TOPIC: Avast 2016 Beta 1 is being pushed out as update right now :)

Lets see if its compatible.
??? ??? ???
Available in Europe, see: https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=177124.0 (https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=177124.0)
Unfortunately that doesn't do a thing for me. No access to a download and therefore not able to test or try.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Asyn on October 01, 2015, 11:18:35 AM
OFF-TOPIC: Avast 2016 Beta 1 is being pushed out as update right now :)

Lets see if its compatible.
??? ??? ???
Available in Europe, see: https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=177124.0 (https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=177124.0)
Unfortunately that doesn't do a thing for me. No access to a download and therefore not able to test or try.
Just be patient Bob, I'm sure it's officially announced soon. ;)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 01, 2015, 11:20:34 AM
OFF-TOPIC: Avast 2016 Beta 1 is being pushed out as update right now :)

Lets see if its compatible.
??? ??? ???
Available in Europe, see: https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=177124.0 (https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=177124.0)
Unfortunately that doesn't do a thing for me. No access to a download and therefore not able to test or try.
Just be patient Bob, I'm sure it's officially announced soon. ;)
Patience is for young people. I don't have time for such nonsense. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Asyn on October 01, 2015, 11:22:48 AM
Patience is for young people. I don't have time for such nonsense. :)
Come on, you're still young enough to wait a few minutes... :)

Edit: Here you go: https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=177126.0
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: DavidR on October 01, 2015, 05:51:41 PM
OFF-TOPIC: Avast 2016 Beta 1 is being pushed out as update right now :)

Lets see if its compatible.
??? ??? ???
Available in Europe, see: https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=177124.0 (https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=177124.0)
Unfortunately that doesn't do a thing for me. No access to a download and therefore not able to test or try.

I didn't know about it, but shortly after boot I got a notification that avast was out of date - thinking VPS I checked about avast and saw a program update available. This of course was because I had used a prior beta on this system.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Lisandro on October 05, 2015, 01:55:32 PM
Does anyone knows how to correct/tweak/change this major Windows 10 annoyance?
I want quick access to context menu and not having to scroll up and down for the commands  >:(
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Pondus on October 05, 2015, 02:13:17 PM
Windows Phone security is top notch, says Kaspersky
http://betanews.com/2015/06/11/windows-phone-security-is-top-notch-says-kaspersky/

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 05, 2015, 03:28:31 PM
Does anyone knows how to correct/tweak/change this major Windows 10 annoyance?
I want quick access to context menu and not having to scroll up and down for the commands  >:(
Maybe you need to contact File Menu Tools: http://www.lopesoft.com/en/contact-info
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on October 05, 2015, 09:22:17 PM
It’s official – Microsoft is killing Control Panel

http://winaero.com/blog/its-official-microsoft-is-killing-control-panel/
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on October 05, 2015, 09:55:03 PM
Does anyone knows how to correct/tweak/change this major Windows 10 annoyance?
I want quick access to context menu and not having to scroll up and down for the commands  >:(
You already have more in your menu than I do. I would not be in favor of a cluttered menu like you suggest.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on October 05, 2015, 10:00:47 PM
It’s official – Microsoft is killing Control Panel

http://winaero.com/blog/its-official-microsoft-is-killing-control-panel/
Terrible news unless they make the settings app just as versatile and feature rich. I go to control panel many times to access things that the Settings app does not offer. If they don't improve the app , it will spawn a wave of third party programs to bring back the functionality people are used to having.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: DavidR on October 05, 2015, 10:05:24 PM
It’s official – Microsoft is killing Control Panel

http://winaero.com/blog/its-official-microsoft-is-killing-control-panel/

Yet another paragraph in Microsoft's long suicide note starting with win8.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on October 05, 2015, 10:05:42 PM
@Dch48: Have fun developing the programs :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on October 05, 2015, 10:08:56 PM
@Dch48: Have fun developing the programs :)
I couldn't do that but I'm sure others will. The Classic Shell people are an example of who probably would.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 05, 2015, 10:50:17 PM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1444078196710-68273.png)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on October 05, 2015, 11:00:22 PM
Winaero is back online :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 05, 2015, 11:08:30 PM
Thanks. :)
I've gotten used to using the Windows Key and and the I key and then the search function for anything I need.
It's a matter of learning a different way to get to what you need. There are times the search function is actually much quicker.
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1444079277475-11627.png)

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 06, 2015, 12:02:23 AM
Thanks. :)
I've gotten used to using the Windows Key and and the I key and then the search function for anything I need.
It's a matter of learning a different way to get to what you need. There are times the search function is actually much quicker.
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1444079277475-11627.png)
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=93544.msg1256976#msg1256976 (https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=93544.msg1256976#msg1256976)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Pondus on October 07, 2015, 09:06:13 AM
I just turned a Windows phone into a PC
http://www.theverge.com/2015/10/6/9464639/microsoft-windows-10-mobile-continuum-hands-on


Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 07, 2015, 02:07:29 PM
I just turned a Windows phone into a PC
http://www.theverge.com/2015/10/6/9464639/microsoft-windows-10-mobile-continuum-hands-on (http://www.theverge.com/2015/10/6/9464639/microsoft-windows-10-mobile-continuum-hands-on)
First you need a Windows Phone. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Pondus on October 07, 2015, 03:46:14 PM
I just turned a Windows phone into a PC
http://www.theverge.com/2015/10/6/9464639/microsoft-windows-10-mobile-continuum-hands-on (http://www.theverge.com/2015/10/6/9464639/microsoft-windows-10-mobile-continuum-hands-on)
First you need a Windows Phone. :)
And i have two, Nokia Lumia 925 and 930   ;)



Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on October 07, 2015, 05:35:30 PM
Maybe ill get a 950XL :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 09, 2015, 01:27:34 PM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1444389943386-5538.png)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on October 12, 2015, 08:33:48 PM
Insider Build 10565 released

http://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2015/10/12/announcing-windows-10-insider-preview-build-10565/

Happy testing :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: essexboy on October 12, 2015, 10:35:53 PM
Up and running... The install seemed a lot quicker than previous ones by about 30 minutes

Everything appears to work
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 13, 2015, 12:03:38 AM
Up and running... The install seemed a lot quicker than previous ones by about 30 minutes

Everything appears to work
It was a faster upgrade than the other times.
Even Avast 2016 beta started without any problems.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: polonus on October 14, 2015, 01:58:42 PM
Who has used any of these tools and are they really good and trustworthy: http://bgr.com/2015/08/14/windows-10-spying-prevention-privacy-tools/
Think this is what I am gonna use: http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/windows_10_tracking_disable_tool.html

polonus
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 14, 2015, 02:24:10 PM
Who has used any of these tools and are they really good and trustworthy: http://bgr.com/2015/08/14/windows-10-spying-prevention-privacy-tools/ (http://bgr.com/2015/08/14/windows-10-spying-prevention-privacy-tools/)
Think this is what I am gonna use: http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/windows_10_tracking_disable_tool.html (http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/windows_10_tracking_disable_tool.html)

polonus
Did you miss this post:
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=156141.msg1249912#msg1249912 (https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=156141.msg1249912#msg1249912)

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 14, 2015, 05:44:37 PM
Windows 10 Insider dawdlers face blank screens Oct. 15 (http://www.computerworld.com/article/2992478/microsoft-windows/windows-10-insider-dawdlers-face-blank-screens-oct-15.html)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on October 14, 2015, 06:39:22 PM
Here's a curious situation.
Has anyone run across this message when trying to UPGRADE a machine from Windows 10 HOME to Windows 10 PRO?
Have tried several times.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: essexboy on October 14, 2015, 07:15:06 PM
Windows app store has major problems insider forum is full of this :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on October 14, 2015, 09:46:08 PM
Who has used any of these tools and are they really good and trustworthy: http://bgr.com/2015/08/14/windows-10-spying-prevention-privacy-tools/
Think this is what I am gonna use: http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/windows_10_tracking_disable_tool.html

polonus
I don't think I need any of them.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on October 14, 2015, 11:58:49 PM
Windows app store has major problems insider forum is full of this :)

Thanks Martin, I was afraid of that. :-\
Any word about whether or not it will eventually process??
Would there be any other way to upgrade directly/not through the App Store?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on October 15, 2015, 06:47:29 AM
Well I've tried everything suggested by MS techs on forum but still NO JOY. :(
Still same error screen: "Give it another try, Something went wrong"
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 15, 2015, 01:26:59 PM
Well I've tried everything suggested by MS techs on forum but still NO JOY. :(
Still same error screen: "Give it another try, Something went wrong"
Any help here:
http://winsupersite.com/windows-10/how-fix-stopped-windows-store-downloads-windows-10 (http://winsupersite.com/windows-10/how-fix-stopped-windows-store-downloads-windows-10)
I upgraded my home version on my Dell to the Pro version some time ago but didn't have your problems.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on October 15, 2015, 02:49:31 PM
Microsoft should be sewed for this!!!

http://www.ghacks.net/2015/10/15/windows-users-report-windows-10-upgrades-are-enforced-on-their-systems/
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 15, 2015, 04:02:46 PM
Microsoft should be sewed for this!!!

http://www.ghacks.net/2015/10/15/windows-users-report-windows-10-upgrades-are-enforced-on-their-systems/ (http://www.ghacks.net/2015/10/15/windows-users-report-windows-10-upgrades-are-enforced-on-their-systems/)
At this point, it hasn't been proven that this is a Microsoft problem.
The problem could very well be the dummy behind the keyboard. :)

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on October 15, 2015, 04:04:42 PM
We will see, only time can tell.

But if its true its really stupid from Microsoft.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: DavidR on October 15, 2015, 04:56:44 PM
Microsoft should be sewed for this!!!

http://www.ghacks.net/2015/10/15/windows-users-report-windows-10-upgrades-are-enforced-on-their-systems/

I think it is MS that are stitching (sewed) us up not the other way round.
Quote from: tfd.com/sewed
v. sewed, sewn (sōn) or sewed, sew·ing, sews
v.tr.
1. To make, repair, or fasten by stitching, as with a needle and thread or a sewing machine: sew a dress; sew on a button.
2. To furnish with stitches for the purpose of closing, fastening, or attaching: sew an incision closed.

I think you would rather MS were sued.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 15, 2015, 05:01:26 PM
It's always very easy to make an accusation. It's an entirely different thing to prove it.
After more than 10 years on this forum, I can't even begin to count how many times Avast has been accused of being the culprit.
Most of the time, it was the user and many times it was another program that they forgot was running in the background.
Mudslinging is easy. Making it stick is another matter. :)

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on October 15, 2015, 05:52:18 PM
Well I've tried everything suggested by MS techs on forum but still NO JOY. :(
Still same error screen: "Give it another try, Something went wrong"
Any help here:
http://winsupersite.com/windows-10/how-fix-stopped-windows-store-downloads-windows-10 (http://winsupersite.com/windows-10/how-fix-stopped-windows-store-downloads-windows-10)
I upgraded my home version on my Dell to the Pro version some time ago but didn't have your problems.

Thanks Bob.
But what I'm trying to do on the machine is 'Purchase' the W10 Pro UPGRADE from W10 Home directly from the store page I showed on the Screenshot I supplied (Post# 867). Not fixing pending downloads.
The process won't get any further then clicking on the BUY/Upgrade amount of 139.00. After that the process hangs.
After Googling, The Tech forum I visited is inundated with many, many such posts with the same error: "Give it another try, Something went wrong" as Martin already posted.
I was hoping one of the W10 experts here might have seen something I have not :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 15, 2015, 09:22:28 PM
I had the basic version and used the following method to upgrade to Pro:
Go to Windows Activation > Go To Store > and Upgrade to Windows 10 Pro
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1444936751074-84708.png)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on October 15, 2015, 11:41:15 PM
Microsoft should be sewed for this!!!

http://www.ghacks.net/2015/10/15/windows-users-report-windows-10-upgrades-are-enforced-on-their-systems/
I've seen nothing like that on my Win 7 laptop. I did however remove the update that installed the GWX program and then hid it when it showed up again.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on October 15, 2015, 11:47:19 PM
According to Microsoft that checked optional Upgrade was an error........
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on October 16, 2015, 12:36:50 AM
I had the basic version and used the following method to upgrade to Pro:
Go to Windows Activation > Go To Store > and Upgrade to Windows 10 Pro
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1444936751074-84708.png)


That's what I've been doing on the Machine for a week......everyday :-\

If you review the screenshot(Post #867) you can see that's where I'm at when the error appears on top

Screenshot>>>>Here's the Store before I click on the amount. Once I click on amount to begin the "Purchase" process, then the error appears on top as 867 shows;
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 16, 2015, 01:02:41 AM
Strange that the graphic shows 139,00 $ ???
It should be $139.00
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on October 16, 2015, 01:11:29 AM
Strange that the graphic shows 139,00 $ ???
It should be $139.00

Man now that's even more concerning.
I don't know. :-\
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 16, 2015, 04:43:52 PM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1445006493355-99712.png)
Download Windows 10 Insider Preview ISO Build 10565 (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windowsinsiderpreviewiso)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on October 18, 2015, 05:38:41 PM
Strange that the graphic shows 139,00 $ ???
It should be $139.00

Man now that's even more concerning.
I don't know. :-\

I'm hoping the Upgrade coming soon will rectify the issue, Not sure a "Reset" of the installation would resolve anything.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Lisandro on October 18, 2015, 06:42:54 PM
Download Windows 10 Insider Preview ISO Build 10565 (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windowsinsiderpreviewiso)
I really recommend downloading this version as it allows to install Windows 10 with your legit Windows 7/8/8.1 key.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on October 18, 2015, 06:52:56 PM
@Lisandro: Its an Insider Build, not official one. It quite alot of bugs.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Lisandro on October 18, 2015, 06:58:44 PM
@Lisandro: Its an Insider Build, not official one. It quite alot of bugs.
On contrary, completely stable, new features (small context menu, etc.). But, indeed, Insider build.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Pondus on October 22, 2015, 02:21:27 PM
Windows 10 “Threshold 2” to launch November 2nd for consumers
http://www.winbeta.org/news/windows-10-threshold-2-to-launch-november-2nd-for-consumers

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on October 22, 2015, 02:42:25 PM
Its not that long until the release :)

Im gonna reinstall with that Threshold if an ISO is out when i have time.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 22, 2015, 02:48:03 PM
Windows 10 “Threshold 2” to launch November 2nd for consumers
http://www.winbeta.org/news/windows-10-threshold-2-to-launch-november-2nd-for-consumers (http://www.winbeta.org/news/windows-10-threshold-2-to-launch-november-2nd-for-consumers)
For those of us who are using the insider builds, we pretty much already have all those items mentioned in the
Threshold 2 release. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on October 26, 2015, 02:52:06 PM
Microsoft Now Displaying Full-Screen Windows 10 Upgrade Notifications on Windows 7 >:( >:( >:(

http://news.softpedia.com/news/microsoft-now-displaying-full-screen-windows-10-upgrade-notifications-on-windows-7-495283.shtml


This si getting ridiculous! Either Microsoft will stop this shinenigens or they will lose me and alot more customers.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 26, 2015, 07:28:29 PM
Microsoft Now Displaying Full-Screen Windows 10 Upgrade Notifications on Windows 7 >:( >:( >:(

http://news.softpedia.com/news/microsoft-now-displaying-full-screen-windows-10-upgrade-notifications-on-windows-7-495283.shtml (http://news.softpedia.com/news/microsoft-now-displaying-full-screen-windows-10-upgrade-notifications-on-windows-7-495283.shtml)


This si getting ridiculous! Either Microsoft will stop this shinenigens or they will lose me and alot more customers.
If you don't want Windows 10, why did you sign up for it ???
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on October 26, 2015, 07:30:30 PM
Its not that i dont want Windows 10, i just hate this aggressive way from Microsoft to get Windows 7 that may not
want Windows to do the Upgrade to Windows 10 :)

Im fine with Windows 10 for now so far.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 26, 2015, 08:29:34 PM
Its not that i dont want Windows 10, i just hate this aggressive way from Microsoft to get Windows 7 that may not
want Windows to do the Upgrade to Windows 10 :)

Im fine with Windows 10 for now so far.
Then they shouldn't have requested the upgrade. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 26, 2015, 08:43:41 PM
Microsoft Now Displaying Full-Screen Windows 10 Upgrade Notifications on Windows 7 >:( >:( >:(

http://news.softpedia.com/news/microsoft-now-displaying-full-screen-windows-10-upgrade-notifications-on-windows-7-495283.shtml (http://news.softpedia.com/news/microsoft-now-displaying-full-screen-windows-10-upgrade-notifications-on-windows-7-495283.shtml)


This si getting ridiculous! Either Microsoft will stop this shinenigens or they will lose me and alot more customers.
If you don't want Windows 10, why did you sign up for it ???
Maybe the following utility can help:
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-XHiqG37b0SI/Ve3uadB1hiI/AAAAAAAABzI/8xDe7y2Lmwg/s640/GWX%2BControl%2BPanel%2BArticle%2BHeader.png)
http://blog.ultimateoutsider.com/2015/08/using-gwx-stopper-to-permanently-remove.html (http://blog.ultimateoutsider.com/2015/08/using-gwx-stopper-to-permanently-remove.html)
(A new version was just released.)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on October 27, 2015, 12:30:25 AM
Microsoft Now Displaying Full-Screen Windows 10 Upgrade Notifications on Windows 7 >:( >:( >:(

http://news.softpedia.com/news/microsoft-now-displaying-full-screen-windows-10-upgrade-notifications-on-windows-7-495283.shtml


This si getting ridiculous! Either Microsoft will stop this shinenigens or they will lose me and alot more customers.
All you need to do is uninstall the Windows update that adds GWX and then hide it when it shows up again. My Win 7 laptop has no such annoyances.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on October 27, 2015, 01:12:22 AM
Microsoft Now Displaying Full-Screen Windows 10 Upgrade Notifications on Windows 7 >:( >:( >:(

http://news.softpedia.com/news/microsoft-now-displaying-full-screen-windows-10-upgrade-notifications-on-windows-7-495283.shtml


This si getting ridiculous! Either Microsoft will stop this shinenigens or they will lose me and alot more customers.
All you need to do is uninstall the Windows update that adds GWX and then hide it when it shows up again. My Win 7 laptop has no such annoyances.

Thats a way to get rid of it, but sooner or later Microsoft will push out the update again, which they already did.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Lisandro on October 27, 2015, 11:03:58 AM
In fact, I can see no reason to stay with Windows 7 over 10...
Really, I used both and can't see any advantage on keeping 7...
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on October 27, 2015, 12:11:55 PM
In fact, I can see no reason to stay with Windows 7 over 10...
Really, I used both and can't see any advantage on keeping 7...
+1, having used win7 - 8 and now 10 I cant see any point in remaining on older versions, win10 functions well and is light and fast for me.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: polonus on October 27, 2015, 01:26:51 PM
What is the best privacy tool to use with Windows 10?

- O&O ShutUp10
- W10privacy
- SpyBot AntiBeacon

Read the telemetry discussion here: http://forums.untangle.com/web-filter/35894-blocking-windows-10-spying-telemetry.html

Anyone?

polonus
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Lisandro on October 27, 2015, 01:41:04 PM
What is the best privacy tool to use with Windows 10?

- O&O ShutUp10
- W10privacy
- SpyBot AntiBeacon

Read the telemetry discussion here: http://forums.untangle.com/web-filter/35894-blocking-windows-10-spying-telemetry.html

Anyone?

polonus
I won't use any tool. Do it manually: safer, know what are you doing and, best of all, can return back. Some of the specs automatically changed can't be restored... You'll mess Registry and will have issues with Preview builds of Windows 10, among other issues.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on October 27, 2015, 01:45:24 PM
If they want to collect my data they can have it, they'll soon get bored of me ;D
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 27, 2015, 01:47:00 PM
What is the best privacy tool to use with Windows 10?

- O&O ShutUp10
- W10privacy
- SpyBot AntiBeacon

Read the telemetry discussion here: http://forums.untangle.com/web-filter/35894-blocking-windows-10-spying-telemetry.html (http://forums.untangle.com/web-filter/35894-blocking-windows-10-spying-telemetry.html)

Anyone?

polonus
It always amazes me to see this labeled as "Spying" because it comes from Microsoft.
When that same type of technology is used by Apples Siri, it's hailed as a great new tool.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: polonus on October 27, 2015, 02:33:25 PM
Hi bob3160,

Yep, there is nothing wrong with this. There is only something wrong with people that do not realize this is going on everywhere. This what is going on is not specific for MS, Google, linux or whatever is into this game. It is just people do not know about the 5GB sent back at set-up and the long, long rows of opt-outs and what will be shared with third parties and eventually on demand with other intelligence. It is the fact that they are not aware that when something comes free that they are the product.
You, bob3160, are aware and I am aware and I hope we both are prudent enough to realize these facts everywhere and all of the time. But a lot of folks do not realize that when they are out on Wifi insecure they are sort of "completely naked". So you are getting back the reactions to what you typed into your Google query a few minutes before.

polonus

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on October 27, 2015, 04:39:48 PM
In fact, I can see no reason to stay with Windows 7 over 10...
Really, I used both and can't see any advantage on keeping 7...
+1, having used win7 - 8 and now 10 I cant see any point in remaining on older versions, win10 functions well and is light and fast for me.

I also agree, however I really don't like the "new" updating process with basically no control compared to earlier versions of Windows
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Para-Noid on October 27, 2015, 06:11:24 PM

I also agree, however I really don't like the "new" updating process with basically no control compared to earlier versions of Windows

+1 I would like to have some control on how my two Win10(s) get updated.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on October 28, 2015, 12:14:56 AM
In fact, I can see no reason to stay with Windows 7 over 10...
Really, I used both and can't see any advantage on keeping 7...
Win 10 is great on my desktop but I tried it on my Win 7 laptop and it had some issues. For one, boot time was doubled. There were also driver issues. Some of the drivers installed by 10 just were not good. The video driver in particular needed to be rolled back to a 2 year old 8.1 version for everything to work right. This was also in a clean install scenario not an upgrade. It also seemed overall slower than 7 in every aspect so I went back.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: polonus on October 28, 2015, 12:28:43 AM
No one replied on the privacy tools for Windows 10 I mentioned somewhat higher up and earlier in this thread. It was reported that these could mean destruction to Bing on a Win10 upgrade install or could hamper a good install to such an extent, so that Windows must be resinstallend from point zero. Why no one alerted to such dangers and said that such tools could be dangerous in the hands of those that use them?  :o

polonus
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: DJBone on October 28, 2015, 12:40:52 AM
No one replied on the privacy tools for Windows 10 I mentioned somewhat higher up and earlier in this thread. It was reported that these could mean destruction to Bing on a Win10 upgrade install or could hamper a good install to such an extent, so that Windows must be resinstallend from point zero. Why no one alerted to such dangers and said that such tools could be dangerous in the hands of those that use them?  :o

polonus
I use O&O ShutUp10.

DJBone
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: polonus on October 28, 2015, 12:58:07 AM
Hi DJBone,

Very responsible and helpful to respond here, and I like to mention that for the record, my friend. 
At least this is real info to work with when I (finally) decide to go Win10 on my new laptop, when I have junk-cleansed it.
Don't want to ruin half a terabyte to destruction. In some respects I am as hesitant as -midnight here for instance,
and she has won my respect in many ways with some of her considerations.

polonus

P.S. Have a scary Haloween to all it concerns
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 28, 2015, 01:12:30 PM
@ Damien,
There are those of us who enjoy exploring the muddy waters to discover what's new.
There are also those who will wait and wait and wait till the waters clear only to find out
all the good things they've missed with their hesitation. :)
A glass can be half full for some and half empty for others.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on October 28, 2015, 08:31:18 PM
@ Damien,
There are those of us who enjoy exploring the muddy waters to discover what's new.
There are also those who will wait and wait and wait till the waters clear only to find out
all the good things they've missed with their hesitation. :)
A glass can be half full for some and half empty for others.
That's a little exaggerated. In my opinion, there is really no reason to be in the Insider program at this time. Unless you want to risk having to start over from scratch due to bugs in test builds. The good parts of those builds will quickly be pushed out in updates to those on the release version so why be a guinea pig? I was an Insider before release day but even then quit it and uninstalled the preview at least a month before release day. I don't use a lot of the new features so I wasn't a good testing candidate anyway. I really don't see anything earth shattering or groundbreaking in the upcoming update either so I can wait. I will update of course but I probably will see little if any difference in how 10 works because I don't use nor care about almost everything that is being changed.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: DavidR on October 28, 2015, 10:12:33 PM
@ Damien,
There are those of us who enjoy exploring the muddy waters to discover what's new.
There are also those who will wait and wait and wait till the waters clear only to find out
all the good things they've missed with their hesitation. :)
A glass can be half full for some and half empty for others.
That's a little exaggerated. In my opinion, there is really no reason to be in the Insider program at this time. Unless you want to risk having to start over from scratch due to bugs in test builds. The good parts of those builds will quickly be pushed out in updates to those on the release version so why be a guinea pig? I was an Insider before release day but even then quit it and uninstalled the preview at least a month before release day. I don't use a lot of the new features so I wasn't a good testing candidate anyway. I really don't see anything earth shattering or groundbreaking in the upcoming update either so I can wait. I will update of course but I probably will see little if any difference in how 10 works because I don't use nor care about almost everything that is being changed.

It used to be that no one got the new OS when first released, instead they waited until SP1 was released.

That saved people a lot of hassle back in the day and I would guess with win8 and win10 this could well have been good advice ;)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 29, 2015, 12:22:41 AM
@ Damien,
There are those of us who enjoy exploring the muddy waters to discover what's new.
There are also those who will wait and wait and wait till the waters clear only to find out
all the good things they've missed with their hesitation. :)
A glass can be half full for some and half empty for others.
That's a little exaggerated. In my opinion, there is really no reason to be in the Insider program at this time. Unless you want to risk having to start over from scratch due to bugs in test builds. The good parts of those builds will quickly be pushed out in updates to those on the release version so why be a guinea pig? I was an Insider before release day but even then quit it and uninstalled the preview at least a month before release day. I don't use a lot of the new features so I wasn't a good testing candidate anyway. I really don't see anything earth shattering or groundbreaking in the upcoming update either so I can wait. I will update of course but I probably will see little if any difference in how 10 works because I don't use nor care about almost everything that is being changed.
You've proved my point.... I've used both Windows 8 and Windows 10 from it's earliest availability.
I have  no complaints about that decision for either of these releases.
Those who upgraded from Windows 7 actually had the biggest learning curve to overcome.
It's strange to see how many people beta test various programs including Avast but, are afraid to do the same for their OS. :)

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: essexboy on October 29, 2015, 10:46:21 PM
Next update fast ring
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on October 29, 2015, 10:51:28 PM
That update isnt available for me yet, i may have to use a LAN Connection to download it anyway, my WiFi is just too slow.

And all of my Universal apps are bricked too, lets see if it can even update to that build :/
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on October 30, 2015, 12:36:14 AM
That update isnt available for me yet, i may have to use a LAN Connection to download it anyway, my WiFi is just too slow.

And all of my Universal apps are bricked too, lets see if it can even update to that build :/
I had that problem. Couldn't get to the Store app and none of the fixes worked.
I did an install of build 10565 only saving my personal files. No settings no programs.
Things are now back to normal except for some of the programs I still need to re-install.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on October 30, 2015, 12:40:39 AM
I have to reinstall this machine anyway. BTW Running the restore point used in system restore 2 times would have fixed that too, but Avast decided to delete my restore points. -_-

I may reinstall when the final release of Threshold 2 is out. And i might dump Insider Builds then too. Im not sure. But first my father has to give me my USB back.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on October 30, 2015, 07:48:20 AM
@ Damien,
There are those of us who enjoy exploring the muddy waters to discover what's new.
There are also those who will wait and wait and wait till the waters clear only to find out
all the good things they've missed with their hesitation. :)
A glass can be half full for some and half empty for others.
That's a little exaggerated. In my opinion, there is really no reason to be in the Insider program at this time. Unless you want to risk having to start over from scratch due to bugs in test builds. The good parts of those builds will quickly be pushed out in updates to those on the release version so why be a guinea pig? I was an Insider before release day but even then quit it and uninstalled the preview at least a month before release day. I don't use a lot of the new features so I wasn't a good testing candidate anyway. I really don't see anything earth shattering or groundbreaking in the upcoming update either so I can wait. I will update of course but I probably will see little if any difference in how 10 works because I don't use nor care about almost everything that is being changed.
You've proved my point.... I've used both Windows 8 and Windows 10 from it's earliest availability.
I have  no complaints about that decision for either of these releases.
Those who upgraded from Windows 7 actually had the biggest learning curve to overcome.
It's strange to see how many people beta test various programs including Avast but, are afraid to do the same for their OS. :)
I'm not a fan of beta anything. Especially not OS's or security applications. I have very rarely tried beta versions of anything and only have done it when the beta version could be installed separately from the release version.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: abruptum on October 30, 2015, 11:01:26 AM
Beware, Microsoft plans to push Windows 10 on even more Windows 7 and 8 systems

  http://www.ghacks.net/2015/10/30/beware-microsoft-plans-to-push-windows-10-on-even-more-windows-7-and-8-systems/
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: digmor crusher on October 31, 2015, 01:42:30 AM
Beware, Microsoft plans to push Windows 10 on even more Windows 7 and 8 systems

  http://www.ghacks.net/2015/10/30/beware-microsoft-plans-to-push-windows-10-on-even-more-windows-7-and-8-systems/

This is getting ridiculous. What happened to free will?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: digmor crusher on October 31, 2015, 01:48:23 AM
Well, second time around with W10, first time in August lasted 5 days before a update put my computer in a repair loop. So far running great about 2 weeks now with just a few minor hiccups. Both times I trimmed the fluff, uninstalled most of the apps, went into the privacy settings and turned everything off including Cortana, went into system settings and turned everything off involving an app or Microsoft. Just a tip, if you can't uninstall an app in the start menu by left clicking on it, try Ccleaner, it will remove them.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on November 01, 2015, 03:35:42 PM
Microsoft Edge
Fast browser but not ready for prime time.
I used it to view a topic on this forum and discovered the following flaw:
Attachments do not appear in Edge.
If you attach a file or an image, the person viewing the post in Edge, will not see the attachment.
For now, stick with IE or use any of the other modern browsers.
Image captured using Chrome:
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1446388589711-34779.png)
Image captured using Edge:
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1446388689311-18233.png)
Not a good thing if you're trying to help someone.  :'(
 
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on November 01, 2015, 04:04:07 PM
Bob@ I have no problems viewing attachments with Edge browser, If I click them they open in Notepad the same as IE and all images on the forum seem to be visible as far as I can tell.

The only issue I'm having with Edge is the emoticons still cant be used "on this forum"...several other forums I use have fixed this issue now, the forum Administrator needs to amend the post editor to make allowances for Edge.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on November 01, 2015, 04:25:56 PM
Bob@ I have no problems viewing attachments with Edge browser, If I click them they open in Notepad the same as IE and all images on the forum seem to be visible as far as I can tell.

The only issue I'm having with Edge is the emoticons still cant be used "on this forum"...several other forums I use have fixed this issue now, the forum Administrator needs to amend the post editor to make allowances for Edge.
Here is the link used for my screenshots:
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=178453.msg1263572#msg1263572
I can't see or open the attached log in Edge
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on November 01, 2015, 04:33:35 PM

The only issue I'm having with Edge is the emoticons still cant be used "on this forum"...several other forums I use have fixed this issue now, the forum Administrator needs to amend the post editor to make allowances for Edge.

+1
Yes, I posted this issue months ago when I first upgraded to W10 and started using Edge here on the forum.
Also the " Insert Hyperlink" function doesn't work with Edge.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on November 01, 2015, 05:02:34 PM
Bob@ I have no problems viewing attachments with Edge browser, If I click them they open in Notepad the same as IE and all images on the forum seem to be visible as far as I can tell.

The only issue I'm having with Edge is the emoticons still cant be used "on this forum"...several other forums I use have fixed this issue now, the forum Administrator needs to amend the post editor to make allowances for Edge.
Here is the link used for my screenshots:
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=178453.msg1263572#msg1263572
I can't see or open the attached log in Edge
Works for me
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on November 01, 2015, 05:13:11 PM
Mystery solved. I apparently wasn't signed into the forum while using Edge.
Sorry about that. Once signed into the forum the attachment was there.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on November 01, 2015, 05:23:14 PM
All good then :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on November 02, 2015, 01:53:21 PM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1446468712472-54821.png)
http://www.thewindowsclub.com/fixwin-for-windows-10 (http://www.thewindowsclub.com/fixwin-for-windows-10)


Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on November 02, 2015, 06:20:54 PM
So when exactly is Threshold 2 (Windows 10 November Update) to be delivered?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on November 02, 2015, 07:44:17 PM
I got a cumulative update this morning but I don't know yet what was in it.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on November 02, 2015, 09:45:07 PM
So when exactly is Threshold 2 (Windows 10 November Update) to be delivered?
Nov 7th was the date a little birdie told me. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on November 02, 2015, 11:43:56 PM
So when exactly is Threshold 2 (Windows 10 November Update) to be delivered?
Nov 7th was the date a little birdie told me. :)

Thanks and the birdie Bob ;)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on November 02, 2015, 11:49:18 PM
Windows Defender is getting better guys:

http://www.dennistechnologylabs.com/reports/s/a-m/2015/DTL_2015_Q3_Home.1.0.pdf

:)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on November 03, 2015, 12:49:57 AM
Windows Defender is getting better guys:

http://www.dennistechnologylabs.com/reports/s/a-m/2015/DTL_2015_Q3_Home.1.0.pdf (http://www.dennistechnologylabs.com/reports/s/a-m/2015/DTL_2015_Q3_Home.1.0.pdf)

 :)
Better than nothing for sure. I'm happy with Avast. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Staticguy on November 03, 2015, 11:56:22 AM
One thing I don't get is that why MSE has better legitimate accuracy (100%) and better total accuracy (95%), and Protected (94) while Avast Free Antivirus 2015 has legitimate accuracy of 98% and total accuracy 92%, and Protected 94? I have been using Avast since the very 1st release of version 7 since then till now I haven't looked back or don't have any regrets. I am 100% happy with Avast.

I sticked to Avast from other free/paid antivirus such as MSE, Panda Cloud Antivirus, McAfee, and Trend Micro.

I disagree with the 1st bullet point on page 2 of that document and the other 3 bullet points didn't mention anything about Avast? Also other pages of that document I have to disagree. Reason behind this is because I don't really trust this source (Dennis Technology Labs), because I haven't really know them well and not familiar with them. Only source I can trust/read is other virus testing labs such as ICSA Labs, Westcoast labs, AV-Comparatives, and AV-Test.

This is my personal view and etc of you guys may have other views.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: abruptum on November 03, 2015, 12:00:51 PM
Microsoft Admits Windows 10 Automatic Spying Cannot Be Stopped

  http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/11/02/microsoft-confirms-unstoppable-windows-10-tracking/


Windows 10's growth is very slow -- Windows 7 and 8.x users reluctant to switch

  http://betanews.com/2015/11/01/windows-10s-growth-is-very-slow-windows-7-and-8-x-users-reluctant-to-switch/
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Aphis on November 03, 2015, 04:48:55 PM
Microsoft Admits Windows 10 Automatic Spying Cannot Be Stopped

  http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/11/02/microsoft-confirms-unstoppable-windows-10-tracking/


Windows 10's growth is very slow -- Windows 7 and 8.x users reluctant to switch

  http://betanews.com/2015/11/01/windows-10s-growth-is-very-slow-windows-7-and-8-x-users-reluctant-to-switch/

Really happy that I didn't make the switch
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on November 03, 2015, 04:49:52 PM
Microsoft Admits Windows 10 Automatic Spying Cannot Be Stopped

  http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/11/02/microsoft-confirms-unstoppable-windows-10-tracking/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/11/02/microsoft-confirms-unstoppable-windows-10-tracking/)


Windows 10's growth is very slow -- Windows 7 and 8.x users reluctant to switch

  http://betanews.com/2015/11/01/windows-10s-growth-is-very-slow-windows-7-and-8-x-users-reluctant-to-switch/ (http://betanews.com/2015/11/01/windows-10s-growth-is-very-slow-windows-7-and-8-x-users-reluctant-to-switch/)

Really happy that I didn't make the switch
It happens to be a good OS. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on November 05, 2015, 02:22:31 PM
Windows 10 Upgrade - Yes, No or, Maybe
This should help (http://www.askvg.com/windows-10-automatic-upgrade-on-your-computer-again/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AskVG+%28AskVG%29)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on November 05, 2015, 08:49:04 PM
Announcing Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 10586

http://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2015/11/05/announcing-windows-10-insider-preview-build-10586/
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on November 06, 2015, 12:58:00 AM

After the Insider Preview Update there was an traditional update:
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1446767769404-83928.png)
The insider build version  number is not visible on the desktop anymore.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on November 06, 2015, 01:51:01 AM
This seems to be the final build for Threshold 2 ;)

Runs really smooth for me but im gonna clean install anyway.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on November 06, 2015, 02:19:44 AM
This seems to be the final build for Threshold 2 ;)

Runs really smooth for me but im gonna clean install anyway.
Those are also my thoughts. Here are some pictures:
https://goo.gl/photos/Qd6VMh8jR54jPFYX6 (https://goo.gl/photos/Qd6VMh8jR54jPFYX6)
Title: Threshold 2 (November Update)
Post by: Dch48 on November 06, 2015, 01:31:27 PM
The latest info is that the November Update for Windows 10 (Threshold 2) will be released to everyone on Tuesday, November 10. It will change the build number of the release version to 10586.
Title: Re: Threshold 2 (November Update)
Post by: bob3160 on November 06, 2015, 01:40:38 PM
The latest info is that the November Update for Windows 10 (Threshold 2) will be released to everyone on Tuesday, November 10. It will change the build number of the release version to 10586.
Those of us on the preview build channel have then already received Windows 10 Threshold 2:
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1446813307518-57066.png)
https://goo.gl/photos/Qd6VMh8jR54jPFYX6 (https://goo.gl/photos/Qd6VMh8jR54jPFYX6)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Pondus on November 07, 2015, 05:40:08 PM
Dell and HP tech support staff are telling customers to ditch Windows 10
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2433750/dell-and-hp-tech-support-staff-are-telling-customers-to-ditch-windows-10

PC Support Reps Tell Users to Uninstall Windows 10
http://www.laptopmag.com/articles/support-reps-diss-windows-10

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on November 07, 2015, 06:29:02 PM
Dell and HP tech support staff are telling customers to ditch Windows 10
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2433750/dell-and-hp-tech-support-staff-are-telling-customers-to-ditch-windows-10

PC Support Reps Tell Users to Uninstall Windows 10
http://www.laptopmag.com/articles/support-reps-diss-windows-10
It has often been my experience that phone support people really don't know what they're doing. Most of the time they have to "escalate" the issue to get an answer. I have had much better luck with live chat reps or through email. Email replies, however, often don't address the issue in question. My best support has always come through Google searches and trying what others have done to resolve the same issue.

Both of those articles show that the companies' phone support personnel need better training.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on November 07, 2015, 09:38:10 PM

@ Pondus,It also emphasizes that book worm wonders aren't always the people you need to rely on
to give you actual hands on technical advice.
Quite often, learning via the trial and error method makes you more competent than reading
an article in some book or magazine.
Give me an expert who has learned his trade from the ground up over a book worm anytime. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Pondus on November 08, 2015, 07:48:25 PM
Microsoft preps for Windows 10 Mobile launch with new Lumia software update page
http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-preps-for-windows-10-mobile-launch-with-new-lumia-software-update-page

http://www.microsoft.com/en/mobile/support/software-update/windows10-software-update/

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Pondus on November 08, 2015, 07:50:32 PM
Microsoft may have the most secure smartphone OS in Windows Phone
http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-may-have-the-most-secure-smartphone-os-in-windows-phone

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Lisandro on November 09, 2015, 12:26:10 AM
Microsoft may have the most secure smartphone OS in Windows Phone
http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-may-have-the-most-secure-smartphone-os-in-windows-phone


Thanks Pondus. I was reading the same. It's almost unbelievable that this security can't migrate to PCs...
The market share answer also has it's truth, or it isn't? :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on November 12, 2015, 07:12:54 PM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1447351701057-22659.png)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on November 12, 2015, 07:23:18 PM
Its installing right now on my grandpas PC, im gonna clean install this puppy tomorrow
most likely after i get a chance to download the ISO File :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on November 12, 2015, 10:54:38 PM
5:00 PM here and nothing in Windows Update yet.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on November 12, 2015, 11:08:40 PM
5:00 PM here and nothing in Windows Update yet.
Don't feel bad, I've updated 4 computers at home and #5 is telling me that it's totally up to date
with version 10240.
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1447365868620-38228.png)
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1447365956127-40396.png)
Wonder if it's because this is just a Home version so further down the chain in the update line ???

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on November 12, 2015, 11:14:14 PM
5:00 PM here and nothing in Windows Update yet.
Don't feel bad, I've updated 4 computers at home and #5 is telling me that it's totally up to date
with version 10240.
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1447365868620-38228.png)
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1447365956127-40396.png)
Wonder if it's because this is just a Home version so further down the chain in the update line ???

NO, i just updated my grandpas PC with Home 32-Bit, non-activated to 10586. :/
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on November 13, 2015, 12:09:02 AM
Nothing here in Western Canada yet  :(
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on November 13, 2015, 01:19:45 AM
7:20 PM and still nothing  :'(
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on November 13, 2015, 02:39:11 PM
7:20 PM and still nothing  :'(
Mine still would not update this morning so I forced it a different way:
From the following Microsoft site:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10)
Download and run the Media Creation Tool and run it.
Select Upgrade Now. It will download and install the latest version 1511 (10586)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on November 13, 2015, 03:55:59 PM
7:20 PM and still nothing  :'(
Mine still would not update this morning so I forced it a different way:
From the following Microsoft site:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10)
Download and run the Media Creation Tool and run it.
Select Upgrade Now. It will download and install the latest version 1511 (10586)
I may do that. It's 10 AM now and still nothing.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on November 13, 2015, 04:06:08 PM
7:20 PM and still nothing  :'(
Mine still would not update this morning so I forced it a different way:
From the following Microsoft site:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10)
Download and run the Media Creation Tool and run it.
Select Upgrade Now. It will download and install the latest version 1511 (10586)
I may do that. It's 10 AM now and still nothing.
Mission accomplished:
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1447426946569-77221.png)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on November 13, 2015, 04:45:37 PM
New in Edge in this build is the ability to over on a tab and get a preview of the contents of that tab:
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1447429341479-15703.png)
If you have 2 or more tabs open, hover your mouse over any of the tabs that are not
\currently in use and view the contents.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on November 13, 2015, 05:04:16 PM
7:20 PM and still nothing  :'(
Mine still would not update this morning so I forced it a different way:
From the following Microsoft site:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10)
Download and run the Media Creation Tool and run it.
Select Upgrade Now. It will download and install the latest version 1511 (10586)
I may do that. It's 10 AM now and still nothing.

+1
Yeh, I still don't have it yet. That's an option
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Charyb on November 13, 2015, 07:34:09 PM
Why are you guys in such a big hurry?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on November 13, 2015, 07:49:55 PM
Why are you guys in such a big hurry?
Why not ???
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Eddy on November 13, 2015, 07:58:44 PM
http://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2015/11/12/first-major-update-for-windows-10-available-today/
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on November 13, 2015, 11:20:59 PM
Using the Media Tool has failed 3 times in a row and WU still has nothing.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on November 13, 2015, 11:22:32 PM
Well I went ahead and downloaded the Media Creation tool as Bob did and it downloaded and installed the Fall Update.
Just didn't want to wait around.. :P
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on November 13, 2015, 11:47:10 PM
Using the Media Tool has failed 3 times in a row and WU still has nothing.

Try to download the ISO File and make a bootable USB with Rufus or Universal USB Installer :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on November 14, 2015, 03:52:19 AM
Using the Media Tool has failed 3 times in a row and WU still has nothing.

Try to download the ISO File and make a bootable USB with Rufus or Universal USB Installer :)
I would make a DVD instead. I don't like using USB.

The Media Tool failed 6 times. Even after disconnecting all drives but the main one, disconnecting the printer, turning on Cortana and location services, and getting the mic working with Cortana. Every time it did the same thing. It got all the way to the part where it says "Your PC will now reboot in a few seconds", and then goes back to the desktop with a small window saying "Something happened, Windows 10 installation has failed".
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on November 14, 2015, 05:00:29 AM
Well I downloaded the ISO and burned it to a disk. Tried to update and the same exact thing happened, it failed in the exact same way.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on November 14, 2015, 03:38:44 PM
Well I downloaded the ISO and burned it to a disk. Tried to update and the same exact thing happened, it failed in the exact same way.
Since you don't give any details see if the following will help you:
http://www.infoworld.com/article/2989972/microsoft-windows/windows-10-installation-problems-and-what-to-do-about-them.html (http://www.infoworld.com/article/2989972/microsoft-windows/windows-10-installation-problems-and-what-to-do-about-them.html)
Here's a guide for updating to the Fall update:
http://www.askvg.com/fix-windows-10-november-update-threshold-2-not-showing-on-your-computer/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AskVG+%28AskVG%29 (http://www.askvg.com/fix-windows-10-november-update-threshold-2-not-showing-on-your-computer/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AskVG+%28AskVG%29)
Better help comes with more and better details. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on November 14, 2015, 05:52:12 PM
Well I downloaded the ISO and burned it to a disk. Tried to update and the same exact thing happened, it failed in the exact same way.
Since you don't give any details see if the following will help you:
http://www.infoworld.com/article/2989972/microsoft-windows/windows-10-installation-problems-and-what-to-do-about-them.html (http://www.infoworld.com/article/2989972/microsoft-windows/windows-10-installation-problems-and-what-to-do-about-them.html)
Here's a guide for updating to the Fall update:
http://www.askvg.com/fix-windows-10-november-update-threshold-2-not-showing-on-your-computer/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AskVG+%28AskVG%29 (http://www.askvg.com/fix-windows-10-november-update-threshold-2-not-showing-on-your-computer/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AskVG+%28AskVG%29)
Better help comes with more and better details. :)
I gave the details.
Quote
Every time it did the same thing. It got all the way to the part where it says "Your PC will now reboot in a few moments", and then goes back to the desktop with a small window saying "Something happened, Windows 10 installation has failed".
There are no other details.  Those web pages are no help either. The first one is about Windows Update not working and that's not the problem. It works fine and installs updates I actually see just fine. I have yet to see this Fall Update to 10586 and it's now noon on Saturday, Nov14. The second site I have already seen and tried everything there. None of it works. I have the full 1511 ISO but that does not work either. I guess I'm just stuck with 10240 unless and until I see the update and it works. I'm not optimistic it will. My only other option would be to wipe everything and do a clean install with the 1511 ISO burned to a disk. I do have a system image I could recover my files from but almost all of my programs and games would have to be reinstalled and since I have over 350gb of stuff on here, that would take ages.

Today I burned the full 1511-10586 ISO to a disk, went into msconfig and disabled all services but MS ones, uninstalled panda and Classic Shell, turned off all startup entries, rebooted and then ran setup from the disk. It turned out the exact same way. It did not install.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Charyb on November 15, 2015, 04:05:16 PM
Is anyone here having the following problems after installing the new Windows update?

1. Cannot open Windows Store app.
2. Cannot open weather app that comes with W10.
3. Avast Safezone browser tile in start menu loses graphic.

These were fine before the update.

Thanks
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on November 15, 2015, 04:17:55 PM
Removing "Scan with Windows Defender" (https://youtu.be/G8hkXuNQV8s)
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1447600637957-63234.png)  (https://youtu.be/G8hkXuNQV8s)

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on November 15, 2015, 04:22:06 PM
Is anyone here having the following problems after installing the new Windows update?

1. Cannot open Windows Store app.
2. Cannot open weather app that comes with W10.
3. Avast Safezone browser tile in start menu loses graphic.

These were fine before the update.

Thanks
No problems here on the 4 systems I converted at home:
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1447600887302-42552.png)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on November 18, 2015, 12:58:52 AM
Windows Defender: Rise of the machine (learning)

http://blogs.technet.com/b/mmpc/archive/2015/11/16/windows-defender-rise-of-the-machine-learning.aspx
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Bob.M on November 18, 2015, 03:30:49 PM
Does W10 have the option to switch user without logging off as I do with W7, and cannot do in W8?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on November 18, 2015, 04:16:17 PM
Does W10 have the option to switch user without logging off as I do with W7, and cannot do in W8?
Yes it does as you can see from the picture:
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1447859703096-30768.png)
I get to this screen by using the short cut key combination of:
CTRL ALT DEL
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Coolmario88 on November 18, 2015, 05:23:19 PM
is Windows 10 Version 1511 (OS Build 10586.3) the latest stable version of windows? Like its not the insider preview build right?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on November 18, 2015, 05:35:54 PM
is Windows 10 Version 1511 (OS Build 10586.3) the latest stable version of windows? Like its not the insider preview build right?
Yes it's the latest stable build.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on November 19, 2015, 07:34:59 PM
Well, it's a week to the day since the update came out and I still haven't seen it in Windows Update.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on November 20, 2015, 12:04:50 AM
Well, it's a week to the day since the update came out and I still haven't seen it in Windows Update.

Well I think that's weird.  ???
Ah but then again, Microsoft.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Lisandro on November 20, 2015, 12:51:23 AM
Well, it's a week to the day since the update came out and I still haven't seen it in Windows Update.
I have a similar issue in recent past and the problem was with Windows Update.
Some bat files available in internet to correct Windows Update did the trick for me.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on November 21, 2015, 12:58:13 AM
Well, it's a week to the day since the update came out and I still haven't seen it in Windows Update.

Well I think that's weird.  ???
Ah but then again, Microsoft.
Use the Microsoft link and do it manually:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on November 21, 2015, 02:03:42 AM
Well, it's a week to the day since the update came out and I still haven't seen it in Windows Update.

Well I think that's weird.  ???
Ah but then again, Microsoft.
Use the Microsoft link and do it manually:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10)
Bob, I have stated here more than once that that does not work. The installation fails every time.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on November 21, 2015, 04:41:23 AM
Well, it's a week to the day since the update came out and I still haven't seen it in Windows Update.

Well I think that's weird.  ???
Ah but then again, Microsoft.
Use the Microsoft link and do it manually:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10)
Bob, I have stated here more than once that that does not work. The installation fails every time.
Very odd, I've used that same link for 11 systems now and it works every time.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on November 21, 2015, 02:24:38 PM
@ Dch48
You obviously have some kind of compatibility problem with your system.
Hardware or Software ??? Disable your AV once you've downloaded the tool
and see if that makes a difference.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on November 21, 2015, 06:32:48 PM
@ Dch48
You obviously have some kind of compatibility problem with your system.
Hardware or Software ??? Disable your AV once you've downloaded the tool
and see if that makes a difference.
I have done that. I have even uninstalled the AV, disconnected everything but the mouse, Keyboard, monitor and primary hard drive, turned off all services, disabled all startup entries, reset the tweaks to Windows 10, and everything else that is suggested. The tool fails and so does an ISO burned to a disk.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on November 21, 2015, 06:38:04 PM
@ Dch48
You obviously have some kind of compatibility problem with your system.
Hardware or Software ??? Disable your AV once you've downloaded the tool
and see if that makes a difference.
I have done that. I have even uninstalled the AV, disconnected everything but the mouse, Keyboard, monitor and primary hard drive, turned off all services, disabled all startup entries, reset the tweaks to Windows 10, and everything else that is suggested. The tool fails and so does an ISO burned to a disk.

You may have or probably have thought of doing a 'complete Reset' of your existing installation(Using RESET Function) with the intent of getting everything back to W10 Default Installation and then try to upgrade to Fall update.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Para-Noid on November 21, 2015, 07:25:29 PM
Here's a screenshot...
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on November 21, 2015, 07:45:14 PM
@ Dch48
You obviously have some kind of compatibility problem with your system.
Hardware or Software ??? Disable your AV once you've downloaded the tool
and see if that makes a difference.
I have done that. I have even uninstalled the AV, disconnected everything but the mouse, Keyboard, monitor and primary hard drive, turned off all services, disabled all startup entries, reset the tweaks to Windows 10, and everything else that is suggested. The tool fails and so does an ISO burned to a disk.

You may have or probably have thought of doing a 'complete Reset' of your existing installation(Using RESET Function) with the intent of getting everything back to W10 Default Installation and then try to upgrade to Fall update.
Yes I have but that would wipe out all of my installed programs. If I'm going to go that route, I may as well do a wipe and clean install since I do have backups of all of my files. I just don't want to do that. If it doesn't come through Windows Update, which I have little confidence would work either, then I'll just continue on with 10240 as long as possible. I don't really care about at least 95% of the changes in 10586 anyway.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on November 21, 2015, 09:15:30 PM
@ Dch48
You obviously have some kind of compatibility problem with your system.
Hardware or Software ??? Disable your AV once you've downloaded the tool
and see if that makes a difference.
I have done that. I have even uninstalled the AV, disconnected everything but the mouse, Keyboard, monitor and primary hard drive, turned off all services, disabled all startup entries, reset the tweaks to Windows 10, and everything else that is suggested. The tool fails and so does an ISO burned to a disk.

You may have or probably have thought of doing a 'complete Reset' of your existing installation(Using RESET Function) with the intent of getting everything back to W10 Default Installation and then try to upgrade to Fall update.
Yes I have but that would wipe out all of my installed programs. If I'm going to go that route, I may as well do a wipe and clean install since I do have backups of all of my files. I just don't want to do that. If it doesn't come through Windows Update, which I have little confidence would work either, then I'll just continue on with 10240 as long as possible. I don't really care about at least 95% of the changes in 10586 anyway.
I have a Dell Laptop (32 bit) that would not go beyond 10240 on the Preview updates.
The only way to update it to the current release was a clean install. I was able to keep my personal information but,
had to re-install any programs I wanted after the upgrade to Fall 11/2015.
Your choice.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on November 21, 2015, 09:54:57 PM
Snip>"The only way to update it to the current release was a clean install. I was able to keep my personal information but,
had to re-install any programs I wanted after the upgrade to Fall 11/2015".

So Bob am I to understand that using the "Reset" function in W10 renders different results then a "Clean Install", or is it the same. ???
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on November 21, 2015, 09:57:42 PM
The reset function reinstalls Windows, keeps personal files, but wipes installed programs. A clean install wipes everything.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on November 21, 2015, 10:00:28 PM
@ Dch48
You obviously have some kind of compatibility problem with your system.
Hardware or Software ??? Disable your AV once you've downloaded the tool
and see if that makes a difference.
I have done that. I have even uninstalled the AV, disconnected everything but the mouse, Keyboard, monitor and primary hard drive, turned off all services, disabled all startup entries, reset the tweaks to Windows 10, and everything else that is suggested. The tool fails and so does an ISO burned to a disk.

You may have or probably have thought of doing a 'complete Reset' of your existing installation(Using RESET Function) with the intent of getting everything back to W10 Default Installation and then try to upgrade to Fall update.
Yes I have but that would wipe out all of my installed programs. If I'm going to go that route, I may as well do a wipe and clean install since I do have backups of all of my files. I just don't want to do that. If it doesn't come through Windows Update, which I have little confidence would work either, then I'll just continue on with 10240 as long as possible. I don't really care about at least 95% of the changes in 10586 anyway.
I have a Dell Laptop (32 bit) that would not go beyond 10240 on the Preview updates.
The only way to update it to the current release was a clean install. I was able to keep my personal information but,
had to re-install any programs I wanted after the upgrade to Fall 11/2015.
Your choice.
That is not a clean install. A clean install wipes everything. It sounds like you did a reset.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: essexboy on November 22, 2015, 11:02:35 AM
This may explain the missing threshold 2
http://betanews.com/2015/11/21/microsoft-pulls-the-windows-10-november-update/
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on November 22, 2015, 03:15:17 PM
This may explain the missing threshold 2
http://betanews.com/2015/11/21/microsoft-pulls-the-windows-10-november-update/ (http://betanews.com/2015/11/21/microsoft-pulls-the-windows-10-november-update/)
Very strange since the Media Creation Tool allowed me to burn a USB containing both the 32 and 64 bit
version of Windows 10 build 10586. ??? I used that usb drive to do the install on the 32 bit Dell that would not
update. It is now up to date with the latest version. ??? ??? ???

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on November 22, 2015, 05:40:54 PM
I just gotta say in the years and years I've been using MS operating systems I can not recall such disorganization and unreliability.
So now a bunch have the Fall Win 10 update (myself included) and a bunch don't have it. ::)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on November 22, 2015, 07:26:30 PM
The page for the Media Creation tool now says that it can not be used to upgrade to 1511. I guess, (actually I know for a fact) that others, besides me, could not get it to work. I guess I'll throw away my burned disk of 1511 too since that probably has the same bugs that prevented the tool from working. They said they have not pulled the update from WU though but I bet that when the ones who haven't received it yet finally do, they will get a patched up version. I still have not seen it btw.

Come to think of it, I do remember checking the version number of setup.exe in the tool created ESD folder and seeing that it said 10240. That was the first time I tried it a week ago. So, now, it looks like they have pulled the 1511 ISO from the tool completely since some people weren't getting it anyway.

With all the reported problems with the update, I'm now kind of glad I haven't gotten it yet.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: mchain on November 23, 2015, 09:29:30 AM
Well, in any case a pretty comprehensive step-by-step scenario coverage by ghacks.net here:  http://www.ghacks.net/2015/11/13/fix-new-windows-10-update-1511-not-showing-up/ (http://www.ghacks.net/2015/11/13/fix-new-windows-10-update-1511-not-showing-up/)

Maybe something in there not tried/covered by you yet?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on November 23, 2015, 02:20:53 PM
(snip)

With all the reported problems with the update, I'm now kind of glad I haven't gotten it yet.
What problems, running smooth as silk on all systems I updated. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: polonus on November 23, 2015, 02:27:10 PM
Hi bob3160,

Now Dell laptops on Windows 10 seems to have a self-signed  edell.root certificate problem: http://www.windows10update.com/2015/11/do-dell-windows-10-pcs-come-with-spyware/
Dell will comment later to-day. Lenovo is no longer alone.  ;D
Read more here: https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=52252.msg1270467#msg1270467

polonus
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on November 23, 2015, 02:41:51 PM
Hi bob3160,

Now Dell laptops on Windows 10 seems to have a self-signed  edell.root certificate problem: http://www.windows10update.com/2015/11/do-dell-windows-10-pcs-come-with-spyware/ (http://www.windows10update.com/2015/11/do-dell-windows-10-pcs-come-with-spyware/)
Dell will comment later to-day. Lenovo is no longer alone.  ;D
Read more here: https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=52252.msg1270467#msg1270467 (https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=52252.msg1270467#msg1270467)

polonus
As I've already commented, not on my Dell 5000 running Windows 10. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: polonus on November 23, 2015, 06:30:05 PM
Avast tested as best free virus solution on Windows 10: https://www.av-test.org/en/

polonus
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on November 23, 2015, 06:39:41 PM
Avast tested as best free virus solution on Windows 10: https://www.av-test.org/en/

polonus

Nice to see, but theres alot of improvement needed. Like on Exploits for example, Cloud can get better too.

Phishing protection isnt that great as well.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on November 23, 2015, 07:52:32 PM
Well, in any case a pretty comprehensive step-by-step scenario coverage by ghacks.net here:  http://www.ghacks.net/2015/11/13/fix-new-windows-10-update-1511-not-showing-up/ (http://www.ghacks.net/2015/11/13/fix-new-windows-10-update-1511-not-showing-up/)

Maybe something in there not tried/covered by you yet?
None of those things apply.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: skinnypops on November 24, 2015, 01:29:06 PM
dch48

have you tried running disc as in place install? that reinstalls windows while saving all personal data and all programs already installed. you will have to redo most windows settings.
this worked to update for me.

skinnypops

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: polonus on November 25, 2015, 12:53:01 PM
Another episode in the "never-ending Windows 10 privacy soap": https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3121244
Some (of your privabcy settings) may not have been retained when applying the November update.
Are it the settings for advertisement-ids that made upgrading to Windows 10 is free?

polonus
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on November 25, 2015, 03:09:30 PM
Another episode in the "never-ending Windows 10 privacy soap": https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3121244 (https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3121244)
Some (of your privabcy settings) may not have been retained when applying the November update.
Are it the settings for advertisement-ids that made upgrading to Windows 10 is free?

polonus
This was already addressed and fixed in a subsequent update by Microsoft. :)
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3121244 (https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3121244)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on November 25, 2015, 03:56:05 PM
Windows 10 November update was pulled for forgetting privacy settings; it’s now back (http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/11/windows-10-november-update-was-pulled-for-forgetting-privacy-settings-its-now-back/)
The updated Media Creation Tool (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10) has also been restored, re-enabling clean installs of version 1511.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on November 26, 2015, 05:07:43 AM
Well, I am now on Threshold. It says version 1511, build 10586.14. The bad part is that I had to do a completely clean install and lost everything. What happened was that I read somewhere that all SATA controllers should be set to IDE in the BIOS. I changed mine and tried to upgrade from a disk. It failed again, and now the computer would not boot into Windows at all. Checking with the repair tools said I no longer had any installation of Windows. Booting from a disk and trying a reset wouldn't even work. After trying everything to restore boot, I finally used the MiniTool Partition Wizard on a CD to delete all partitions on the drive thus wiping out everything. I then used a disk I had created from the 10586 disk ISO I had previously downloaded with the Media Creation Tool (before they pulled it). I booted from the disk and installed Windows 10 with no problems. I recovered all of my personal files from the AOMEI backup I had done on the second HDD but now I'm in the long process of installing all of my programs again. I have most of the regular stuff reinstalled. Now I have to do the games. I have to reinstall Steam, Origin, Uplay, and GOG Galaxy and redownload the games I want to continue playing. I was able to copy over World of Warcraft in it's entirety from the backup file and it works fine. There may be a way to copy Steam and LOTRO over but I'll have to check. I know I did it with one or both of those before.

Threshold is working very well but really doesn't seem any better than 10240 was. It has already received a few updates.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on November 26, 2015, 03:26:03 PM
The updates you received are related to the settings forgetfulness mention in a prior post since
your ISO was an early release of build 1511. :)

 
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on November 26, 2015, 07:35:56 PM
I was able to copy over my Steam games and Lotro. Now to check if I can do the same with GOG, Origin, and Uplay.

For Origin and GOG, I just installed the client and copied the games folders from the backup. They initially showed as needing to be downloaded but when I clicked on install, after a few minutes it found the copied game files, verified them, and said it was done. They play perfectly.

This clean install has turned out to be less of a hassle than I thought it would be. ;D
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: polonus on November 26, 2015, 10:57:08 PM
Average user and wanna get rid of crapware, MS may not help you, only if you are an enterprise user then it is another story:
http://blogs.technet.com/b/mmpc/archive/2015/11/25/shields-up-on-potentially-unwanted-applications-in-your-enterprise.aspx

Oh and remember the issues with DiagTrack, it has not gone away - it just got renamed as "Connected User Experiences and Telemetry", read: https://tweakhound.com/2015/11/18/win10-diagnostics-tracking-service-gone/

polonus
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on November 26, 2015, 11:07:34 PM
Average user and wanna get rid of crapware, MS may not help you, only if you are an enterprise user then it is another story:
http://blogs.technet.com/b/mmpc/archive/2015/11/25/shields-up-on-potentially-unwanted-applications-in-your-enterprise.aspx

Oh and remember the issues with DiagTrack, it has not gone away - it just got renamed as "Connected User Experiences and Telemetry", read: https://tweakhound.com/2015/11/18/win10-diagnostics-tracking-service-gone/

polonus

That registry hack will also work on Pro and Home version of Windows 10 :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: polonus on November 27, 2015, 11:32:15 AM
The code hack is
Code: [Select]
  Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows Defender\MpEngine] "MpEnablePus"=dword:00000001
Save as txt file then change in to reg file and execute with a click and you have changed windows into an "adware-killer".

polonus

P.S. Always make a copy of the registry first in case something goes wrong while changing these values.  ;)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on November 27, 2015, 01:45:14 PM
The code hack is
Code: [Select]
  Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows Defender\MpEngine] "MpEnablePus"=dword:00000001
Save as txt file then change in to reg file and execute with a click and you have changed windows into an "adware-killer".

polonus

P.S. Always make a copy of the registry first in case something goes wrong while changing these values.  ;)

Didnt take any backup of my registry nor of my VMs registry :) Still works fine.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: DavidR on November 27, 2015, 03:44:05 PM
The code hack is
Code: [Select]
  Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows Defender\MpEngine] "MpEnablePus"=dword:00000001
Save as txt file then change in to reg file and execute with a click and you have changed windows into an "adware-killer".
<snip>

Isn't there a downside to this, surely that means you have to have windows defender (or a background service/engine) running to get this benefit. When we are essentially saying disable windows defender if installing avast or 3rd party AV (even windows 10 is meant to disable WD if a 3rd party AV is installed).
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on November 27, 2015, 03:59:17 PM
Average user and wanna get rid of crapware, MS may not help you, only if you are an enterprise user then it is another story:
http://blogs.technet.com/b/mmpc/archive/2015/11/25/shields-up-on-potentially-unwanted-applications-in-your-enterprise.aspx (http://blogs.technet.com/b/mmpc/archive/2015/11/25/shields-up-on-potentially-unwanted-applications-in-your-enterprise.aspx)

Oh and remember the issues with DiagTrack, it has not gone away - it just got renamed as "Connected User Experiences and Telemetry", read: https://tweakhound.com/2015/11/18/win10-diagnostics-tracking-service-gone/ (https://tweakhound.com/2015/11/18/win10-diagnostics-tracking-service-gone/)

polonus
So what does this do for me if I'm already using Avast, Avast's OnlineSecurity, Malwarebytes and Unchecky and always use custom installs ???
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: polonus on November 27, 2015, 05:23:05 PM
Hi DavidR,

You and bob3160 are 100% right.
Just wanted to give it here for completeness. I have Windows defender disabled as this should be for the Avast settings.
Steven Winderlich mentions something, but forgets to mention that.
No bob3160, DavidR and polonus etc. do not need this because they have Avast AV resident security.
So for all of us keep windows defender disabled.

polonus
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on November 27, 2015, 05:25:46 PM
Hi DavidR,

You and bob3160 are 100% right.
Just wanted to give it here for completeness. I have Windows defender disabled as this should be for the Avast settings.
Steven Winderlich mentions something, but forgets to mention that.
No bob3160, DavidR and polonus etc. do not need this because they have Avast AV resident security.
So for all of us keep windows defender disabled.

polonus
When you install Avast on Windows 10, Defender is automatically disabled. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on November 27, 2015, 05:46:00 PM

Steven Winderlich mentions something, but forgets to mention that.

polonus

For us Avast users its pointless, but for all the Defender users its a good option :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on November 27, 2015, 06:41:49 PM

Steven Winderlich mentions something, but forgets to mention that.

polonus

For us Avast users its pointless, but for all the Defender users its a good option :)
How many of those are you going to find on this forum ??? :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: DavidR on November 27, 2015, 07:59:36 PM
Hi DavidR,

You and bob3160 are 100% right.
Just wanted to give it here for completeness. I have Windows defender disabled as this should be for the Avast settings.
Steven Winderlich mentions something, but forgets to mention that.
No bob3160, DavidR and polonus etc. do not need this because they have Avast AV resident security.
So for all of us keep windows defender disabled.

polonus
When you install Avast on Windows 10, Defender is automatically disabled. :)

Yes, I'm aware of that, but this so called work around is using what appears to be a WD element 'MpEngine' so something of WD would be running when windows 10 and savvy users would have already disabled it. So for me this hack is Pointless.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on November 28, 2015, 03:53:14 AM
Still a good hack to have and Defender doesn't have to be running to add it, many users like myself run multiple systems with numerous AV's, Defender being one of them :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on November 28, 2015, 06:37:50 PM
Still a good hack to have and Defender doesn't have to be running to add it, many users like myself run multiple systems with numerous AV's, Defender being one of them :)
Sorry but those that come here are usually Avast users. I'd consider this a bit off-topic. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Para-Noid on November 28, 2015, 07:00:18 PM

For us Avast users its pointless, but for all the Defender users its a good option :)

WD was not auto-disabled in Win10 for me.
I had to do a manual disable of Windows Defender.  ??? ::) ???

But when I installed CFW w/D+ the Windows Firewall did get disabled by CFW.  8)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on November 28, 2015, 07:31:12 PM

For us Avast users its pointless, but for all the Defender users its a good option :)

WD was not auto-disabled in Win10 for me.
I had to do a manual disable of Windows Defender.  ??? ::) ???

But when I installed CFW w/D+ the Windows Firewall did get disabled by CFW.  8)
Windows Defender and Windows Firewall ??? ??? Two different animals ???
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on November 28, 2015, 10:00:32 PM
With some AV's, that MPCmd thing still runs even when Defender is disabled. I don't know if it does for all but I know for a fact that it did when I was using Bitdefender Free.

The file is MpCmdRun.exe and it appears that what is does is sense if another AV is installed or running. If no other AV is found, it turns Defender back on. That seems like an excellent feature that ensures that you have some kind of protection if your solution of choice somehow stops working. It appears to run every time something needs to be scanned. It's only present in Win 8.1 and 10.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on November 28, 2015, 10:06:39 PM
With some AV's, that MPCmd thing still runs even when Defender is disabled. I don't know if it does for all but I know for a fact that it did when I was using Bitdefender Free.
It gets turned off when install in Avast which is what's important on this forum. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on November 29, 2015, 04:16:08 AM
Still a good hack to have and Defender doesn't have to be running to add it, many users like myself run multiple systems with numerous AV's, Defender being one of them :)
Sorry but those that come here are usually Avast users. I'd consider this a bit off-topic. :)
I didn't say they weren't Avast users, just many use other options as well.

 
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on November 30, 2015, 06:48:51 AM
With some AV's, that MPCmd thing still runs even when Defender is disabled. I don't know if it does for all but I know for a fact that it did when I was using Bitdefender Free.
It gets turned off when install in Avast which is what's important on this forum. :)
Sorry Bob, but no it doesn't. Defender itself gets turned off but the file I mentioned still runs and turns Defender back on if no other AV is detected.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on November 30, 2015, 04:21:51 PM
With some AV's, that MPCmd thing still runs even when Defender is disabled. I don't know if it does for all but I know for a fact that it did when I was using Bitdefender Free.
It gets turned off when install in Avast which is what's important on this forum. :)
Sorry Bob, but no it doesn't. Defender itself gets turned off but the file I mentioned still runs and turns Defender back on if no other AV is detected.
That's correct. It's actually a good thing so that when you remove your current AV, you are never left totally unprotected.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on December 03, 2015, 09:46:51 PM
Microsoft to add Containers to Windows 10

http://www.winbeta.org/news/microsoft-add-containers-windows-10
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on December 05, 2015, 01:59:14 PM
       Windows 10 Tips, Tricks, and Tutorials (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1_9cbkt8g22FBWDUqqNyELZHO0prcczB)
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1449320212293-25115.png) (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1_9cbkt8g22FBWDUqqNyELZHO0prcczB)
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1_9cbkt8g22FBWDUqqNyELZHO0prcczB (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1_9cbkt8g22FBWDUqqNyELZHO0prcczB)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on December 07, 2015, 04:44:39 PM
Microsoft Silently Re-Enables Windows 10 Upgrades on Windows 7 and 8.1 PCs – Report

http://news.softpedia.com/news/microsoft-silently-re-enables-windows-10-upgrades-on-windows-7-and-8-1-pcs-report-497234.shtml
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: abruptum on December 07, 2015, 06:07:35 PM
Microsoft Silently Re-Enables Windows 10 Upgrades on Windows 7 and 8.1 PCs – Report

http://news.softpedia.com/news/microsoft-silently-re-enables-windows-10-upgrades-on-windows-7-and-8-1-pcs-report-497234.shtml
Also here :

http://www.ghacks.net/2015/12/07/microsoft-continues-aggressive-upgrade-strategy-for-windows-7-and-8-1-systems/

I didn't install KB3112343, so I don't have this problem.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on December 07, 2015, 10:39:59 PM
Microsoft Silently Re-Enables Windows 10 Upgrades on Windows 7 and 8.1 PCs – Report

http://news.softpedia.com/news/microsoft-silently-re-enables-windows-10-upgrades-on-windows-7-and-8-1-pcs-report-497234.shtml
Also here :

http://www.ghacks.net/2015/12/07/microsoft-continues-aggressive-upgrade-strategy-for-windows-7-and-8-1-systems/

I didn't install KB3112343, so I don't have this problem.


Im on Windoof 10 already so i dont care......
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on December 07, 2015, 10:58:56 PM
Microsoft Silently Re-Enables Windows 10 Upgrades on Windows 7 and 8.1 PCs – Report

http://news.softpedia.com/news/microsoft-silently-re-enables-windows-10-upgrades-on-windows-7-and-8-1-pcs-report-497234.shtml
Also here :

http://www.ghacks.net/2015/12/07/microsoft-continues-aggressive-upgrade-strategy-for-windows-7-and-8-1-systems/

I didn't install KB3112343, so I don't have this problem.


Im on Windoof 10 already so i dont care......
Lol, same here. I'm holding out on my Win 7 laptop but may eventually give in and upgrade it. It seems like everything I have on it will run in 10. Win 10 is a great OS and better in every way under the hood than 7. The "spyware" stuff is nonsense since every version of Windows, Android, MacOS, and maybe even the mostly irrelevant Linux do much the same things. The biggest difference in 10 is that they tell you about it. Even if Linux doesn't do it, I wouldn't use it. I have tried a few different distros and hated them all.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on December 16, 2015, 07:37:27 PM
New Insider Build is now out to try out:

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2015/12/16/announcing-windows-10-insider-preview-build-11082/

Known Issues:

-Languages packages and Features on Demand will fail to install on this build. We are investigating workarounds.

-When copying, deleting, or moving files there will be no progress dialog shown. The file action will complete without intervention. This can cause confusion when acting on large files or directories.

-With this build, application defaults for some applications will be reset. Music & Video will default to Windows Media Player. This can be reconfigured opening Cortana or Search and searching for “Choose default apps by file type” to open the correct settings page.


So take heed of the known issues, and check your Windows Update settings if you’re a Windows Insider in the fast ring, and get to downloading build 11082!
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: abruptum on December 16, 2015, 09:15:57 PM
'Upgrade now' or 'Upgrade tonight'

  http://www.infoworld.com/article/3015238/microsoft-windows/microsoft-narrows-win10-upgrade-options-to-upgrade-now-or-upgrade-tonight.html
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on December 17, 2015, 12:54:58 AM
Evolving Microsoft SmartScreen to protect you from drive-by attacks

https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2015/12/16/smartscreen-drive-by-improvements/
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on December 17, 2015, 06:26:42 AM
Evolving Microsoft SmartScreen to protect you from drive-by attacks

https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2015/12/16/smartscreen-drive-by-improvements/
I've always been a fan of the SmartScreen filtering since IE7 days. It's great to see it's been expanded even further now. It has always been my primary anti-phishing protection and has picked up on quite a few bad sites over the years. It actually works better than the phishing protection in some third party Antivirus programs which has been shown in tests. It's one of the reasons why I have always used IE as my default browser. (Of course there are other reasons like handling of cookies, favorites and downloads which I greatly prefer in IE.)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on December 17, 2015, 10:45:42 AM
@Dch48: In my own tests its not that good in blocking phishing sites, but i guess Microsoft has more in the works i hope also regarding Defender, like a new UI, better Zero-Day, etc.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on December 17, 2015, 05:50:39 PM
@Dch48: In my own tests its not that good in blocking phishing sites, but i guess Microsoft has more in the works i hope also regarding Defender, like a new UI, better Zero-Day, etc.
Sometimes I go to sites where phishing sites have been reported and IE blocks every one of them. Even the most recently reported ones. It has also blocked sites for me in the wild. It definitely works better than the anti phishing in Panda Free AV, I couldn't say about Avast since I haven't used it in a while. That's why I said better than some AV products.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on December 18, 2015, 01:45:25 PM
'Free' Windows 10 Has An Expensive Secret

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/12/17/free-windows-10-expensive-secret/
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on December 18, 2015, 02:24:02 PM
'Free' Windows 10 Has An Expensive Secret

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/12/17/free-windows-10-expensive-secret/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/12/17/free-windows-10-expensive-secret/)
BULL - There isn't any secret. The free upgrade has always been advertised as being good for one year from the release date.
If you want it and are eligible get it while the offer lasts or, pay the full price after the offer runs out.
It's that simple.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on December 19, 2015, 10:02:51 AM
'Free' Windows 10 Has An Expensive Secret

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/12/17/free-windows-10-expensive-secret/
No there is no secret so the title of the article is misleading. There are at least two other things that the article conveniently ignores. One, Windows 10 will continue to be "adopted" after the one year date simply in the sales of new computers coming with it pre-installed. Secondly, Windows 10 is replacing 8.1 which wasn't bad in itself and really isn't that much different. Windows 7 was replacing Vista which is still the most vilified Windows version of all. People couldn't get away from Vista fast enough.

The assumption that Windows 10 will not be at the full retail value after the year expires is just that, an assumption. I expect that it will be since very few people buy a retail copy of an OS. I would think that only those who build their own computers would be doing that.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on December 24, 2015, 02:44:04 PM
Six Reasons Why Governments Should Upgrade to Windows 10

http://enterprise.microsoft.com/en-us/industries/government/six-reasons-why-governments-should-upgrade-to-windows-10/
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on December 24, 2015, 02:49:38 PM
Six Reasons Why Governments Should Upgrade to Windows 10

http://enterprise.microsoft.com/en-us/industries/government/six-reasons-why-governments-should-upgrade-to-windows-10/ (http://enterprise.microsoft.com/en-us/industries/government/six-reasons-why-governments-should-upgrade-to-windows-10/)
I highly doubt that any Governments are going to read this forum. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: DavidR on December 24, 2015, 03:49:30 PM
Six Reasons Why Governments Should Upgrade to Windows 10

http://enterprise.microsoft.com/en-us/industries/government/six-reasons-why-governments-should-upgrade-to-windows-10/ (http://enterprise.microsoft.com/en-us/industries/government/six-reasons-why-governments-should-upgrade-to-windows-10/)
I highly doubt that any Governments are going to read this forum. :)

Even if they did or read the article concerned, would they A) believe it coming from MS wanting to push win10 on the world or B) Governments and Enterprise have much invested in proprietary software which is unlikely to work on any OS other than that it was designed for.

On that point - much of the UK (National Health Service) NHS still runs on XP and they are paying MS to still be running on XP with updates.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on December 26, 2015, 01:30:29 PM
I'm ready to upgrade my win 8.1 computer to win 10 but I can't find the post that says how to switch back to win 8.1.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Pondus on December 26, 2015, 01:41:56 PM
I'm ready to upgrade my win 8.1 computer to win 10 but I can't find the post that says how to switch back to win 8.1.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+switch+back+to+win+8.1

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on December 26, 2015, 05:51:05 PM
Six Reasons Why Governments Should Upgrade to Windows 10

http://enterprise.microsoft.com/en-us/industries/government/six-reasons-why-governments-should-upgrade-to-windows-10/ (http://enterprise.microsoft.com/en-us/industries/government/six-reasons-why-governments-should-upgrade-to-windows-10/)
I highly doubt that any Governments are going to read this forum. :)

Even if they did or read the article concerned, would they A) believe it coming from MS wanting to push win10 on the world or B) Governments and Enterprise have much invested in proprietary software which is unlikely to work on any OS other than that it was designed for.

On that point - much of the UK (National Health Service) NHS still runs on XP and they are paying MS to still be running on XP with updates.

On this point I find it hard to understand how "Investing" (by paying MS) in "anti-progress" Regression makes any $$sense$$
Do companies/Institutions think they are going to halt progress. That MS will maintain xp "Forever".
I've heard all the arguments, pragmatic and financial and I still  don't get it :-\
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: DavidR on December 26, 2015, 07:01:22 PM
Six Reasons Why Governments Should Upgrade to Windows 10

http://enterprise.microsoft.com/en-us/industries/government/six-reasons-why-governments-should-upgrade-to-windows-10/ (http://enterprise.microsoft.com/en-us/industries/government/six-reasons-why-governments-should-upgrade-to-windows-10/)
I highly doubt that any Governments are going to read this forum. :)

Even if they did or read the article concerned, would they A) believe it coming from MS wanting to push win10 on the world or B) Governments and Enterprise have much invested in proprietary software which is unlikely to work on any OS other than that it was designed for.

On that point - much of the UK (National Health Service) NHS still runs on XP and they are paying MS to still be running on XP with updates.

On this point I find it hard to understand how "Investing" (by paying MS) in "anti-progress" Regression makes any $$sense$$
Do companies/Institutions think they are going to halt progress. That MS will maintain xp "Forever".
I've heard all the arguments, pragmatic and financial and I still  don't get it :-\

Didn't you read the important bit about not really being able to update, I have now highlighted. Some Government/Enterprise have proprietary systems that cost 10s if not 100s of millions to implement.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on December 26, 2015, 07:10:00 PM
Ok I got that, however that still I think begs the question. What's going to happen? How long is this sustainable?
What's the solution? I mean xp isn't going to be around forever.
That's what I'm not understanding ;)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on December 26, 2015, 07:48:18 PM
I'm ready to upgrade my win 8.1 computer to win 10 but I can't find the post that says how to switch back to win 8.1.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+switch+back+to+win+8.1



Thank you Pondus.   
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: DavidR on December 26, 2015, 08:02:31 PM
Ok I got that, however that still I think begs the question. What's going to happen? How long is this sustainable?
What's the solution? I mean xp isn't going to be around forever.
That's what I'm not understanding ;)

Presumably because IT projects (especially in Government) seem to progress at glacial pace and have the specs changed at a faster pace, so progress is like one step forwards, two steps back. All of this leads to huge cost overruns.

They may well have a new systems/ in development, but that is possibly years away, but will probably be based on Win10 OS, but who knows what the situation (OS) that will be around then.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on December 27, 2015, 03:37:23 PM
All of this simply proves is that Government has no business running a business. :)
It seems not to matter which country we are talking about. :)


Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: DavidR on December 27, 2015, 04:17:47 PM
All of this simply proves is that Government has no business running a business. :)
It seems not to matter which country we are talking about. :)

The problem is they never damn learn.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on January 03, 2016, 10:52:48 PM
Microsoft Warns Windows 7 Has Serious Problems

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/01/02/microsoft-windows-7-problems/?utm_campaign=yahootix&partner=yahootix

LOL
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: DavidR on January 03, 2016, 11:15:43 PM
Microsoft Warns Windows 7 Has Serious Problems

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/01/02/microsoft-windows-7-problems/?utm_campaign=yahootix&partner=yahootix

LOL

Ha, another push to get them on win10.
Quote from: extract from article
There’s only one problem with Capossela’s statements: they are complete rubbish.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Asyn on January 03, 2016, 11:19:14 PM
Wow, now they're bashing their own product(s)... :o ::)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on January 03, 2016, 11:20:43 PM
Wow, now they're bashing their own product(s)... :o ::)
Wonder where they learn that move ???
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on January 04, 2016, 09:05:28 AM
The author of that article is wrong on one big point. Windows 10 is inherently more secure than 7 and there just is no doubt of that. Even 8.1 is more secure than 7.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Pondus on January 09, 2016, 09:36:04 PM
Microsoft is building its own SIM card for Windows
http://www.theverge.com/2016/1/7/10734648/microsoft-sim-card-cellular-data

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on January 09, 2016, 09:40:06 PM
Microsoft is building its own SIM card for Windows
http://www.theverge.com/2016/1/7/10734648/microsoft-sim-card-cellular-data

Its a good idea from Microsoft and a bit like what Apple is planning on.

That way you may be able to travel around the world without the issues of pricey Roaming or multiple carriers as well.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on January 10, 2016, 08:18:36 PM
Microsoft is building its own SIM card for Windows
http://www.theverge.com/2016/1/7/10734648/microsoft-sim-card-cellular-data
It sounds interesting if it works out cheaper than a carrier contract. I'm sure it would work with my Lumia 640.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on January 10, 2016, 09:32:19 PM
Microsoft Could Release Windows 10 Redstone Build 11097 Next Week

http://news.softpedia.com/news/microsoft-could-release-windows-10-redstone-build-11097-next-week-498689.shtml
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on January 13, 2016, 07:31:36 PM
Build 11099 released to Insiders

http://www.winbeta.org/news/windows-10-redstone-build-11099-released-to-insiders

Knows issues: http://prntscr.com/9polbt

Insider-Hub Post: http://prntscr.com/9poll3
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on January 14, 2016, 04:48:53 PM
Microsoft starts pushing Windows 10 to domain-joined PCs

http://www.ghacks.net/2016/01/14/microsoft-starts-pushing-windows-10-to-domain-joined-pcs/

This will just cause firms issues and will get more people mad.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on January 15, 2016, 12:44:20 PM
Windows 10 ARM64 support coming with Redstone later this year

http://www.winbeta.org/news/windows-10-arm64-support-coming-with-redstone-later-this-year

Interesting to see Microsoft :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on January 15, 2016, 10:40:50 PM
Microsoft warns enterprises to upgrade to Windows 10 or be left behind

http://www.winbeta.org/news/microsoft-clarifies-support-for-silicon-innovations-enterprises-and-the-best-windows-10-experience
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: DavidR on January 15, 2016, 11:29:29 PM
Microsoft warns enterprises to upgrade to Windows 10 or be left behind

http://www.winbeta.org/news/microsoft-clarifies-support-for-silicon-innovations-enterprises-and-the-best-windows-10-experience

What amazes me is the arrogance of MS (nothing new here) when trying to push their products - fortunately Enterprise users aren't overly concerned by the hype or being left behind.

Big companies frequently hold back for some considerable time before switching OS and it has nothing to do with being left behind but retraining a workforce and or updating their proprietary software or some hardware (drivers not supported or provided) and retraining staff. Not something that is going to happen overnight much to Microsoft's displeasure.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on January 15, 2016, 11:39:47 PM
My observation over the years is that MS has had to "push" every OS change; albeit some more then others.
Change just isn't easy, especially when it's continuous, I mean MS just introduce W8 then 8.1 then W10 and so on.
Impossible for People let alone Enterprise users/subscribers to keep up with that crap. ::)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: abruptum on January 16, 2016, 11:59:49 AM
Microsoft: next-gen processors only supported by Windows 10

  http://www.ghacks.net/2016/01/16/microsoft-new-intel-processors-only-supported-by-windows-10/
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on January 16, 2016, 08:59:14 PM
Microsoft: next-gen processors only supported by Windows 10

  http://www.ghacks.net/2016/01/16/microsoft-new-intel-processors-only-supported-by-windows-10/

What about people which just bought a new PC with Skylake CPU which will now just get support for 18 months? What then? New CPU plus new OS? Youre kidding me Microsoft.........
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: DavidR on January 17, 2016, 12:06:26 AM
Microsoft: next-gen processors only supported by Windows 10

  http://www.ghacks.net/2016/01/16/microsoft-new-intel-processors-only-supported-by-windows-10/

What about people which just bought a new PC with Skylake CPU which will now just get support for 18 months? What then? New CPU plus new OS? Youre kidding me Microsoft.........

MS are kidding themselves if they think this kind of FUD will push Enterprise or end users into getting win10. Those how were going to get it for the most part already have, others waiting for the win10 SP1 (or equivalent) to arrive will still wait.

I think a lot of people really are waiting to see what direction win10 moves.

I read something else about new System On Chip (SOC) processors are more likely to be found on tablets and phones and that must mean windows phone (and that has a very small market share. If windows phone drops any further it may disappear completely, so much of this work will be wasted.

I think system builders won't be pleased about the lack of processor support, etc. as that isn't going to help sell new systems until these new processors are more common and reasonably priced (meaning time).
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on January 17, 2016, 12:11:41 AM
Microsoft: next-gen processors only supported by Windows 10

  http://www.ghacks.net/2016/01/16/microsoft-new-intel-processors-only-supported-by-windows-10/

What about people which just bought a new PC with Skylake CPU which will now just get support for 18 months? What then? New CPU plus new OS? Youre kidding me Microsoft.........

MS are kidding themselves if they think this kind of FUD will push Enterprise or end users into getting win10. Those how were going to get it for the most part already have, others waiting for the win10 SP1 (or equivalent) to arrive will still wait.

I think a lot of people really are waiting to see what direction win10 moves.

I read something else about new System On Chip (SOC) processors are more likely to be found on tablets and phones and that must mean windows phone (and that has a very small market share. If windows phone drops any further it may disappear completely, so much of this work will be wasted.

I think system builders won't be pleased about the lack of processor support, etc. as that isn't going to help sell new systems until these new processors are more common and reasonably priced (meaning time).

ARM Support will come with Redstone :)

But the way MS is pushing Windows 10 and other deices from them is ridiculous.

Also read this: http://www.macrumors.com/2016/01/15/microsoft-apple-watch-trade-in/
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on January 17, 2016, 08:30:41 PM
I don't see any FUD involved. It makes sense to me. Especially since the people most interested in the new processors will be gamers and the great majority of them have already moved to Windows 10. I can also see those people interested in things like the holo lens and 3D printing going to the more powerful processors. Once again, those people will almost certainly be running Windows 10. Windows 10 is the future, there's no going back or even holding on.

By the way, Windows phones have been gaining market share, not dropping. Windows Phone is, to me and many others, better than Android or iOS.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on January 17, 2016, 08:42:23 PM
I don't see any FUD involved. It makes sense to me. Especially since the people most interested in the new processors will be gamers and the great majority of them have already moved to Windows 10. I can also see those people interested in things like the holo lens and 3D printing going to the more [powerful processors. Once again, those people will almost certainly be running Windows 10. Windows 10 is the future, there's no going back or even holding on.

By the way, Windows phones have been gaining market share, not dropping. Windows Phone is, to me and many others, better than Android or iOS.

I do like Windows Phone alot too and i may buy myself a Lumia 950 or 950 XL, Continuum is a great feature :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on January 18, 2016, 11:11:47 PM
Vodafone rumored to begin Windows 10 Mobile rollout

http://www.winbeta.org/news/vodafone-rumored-to-begin-windows-10-mobile-rollout

Other devices may be in for rollout tomorrow as well. I can check with a Lumia 532 Dual SIM here.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on January 18, 2016, 11:16:28 PM
My Lumia 640 is AT&T. I hope I get the upgrade soon.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on January 18, 2016, 11:19:52 PM
My Lumia 640 is AT&T. I hope I get the upgrade soon.

We have an E-Plus Lumia here but i dont know when and how it will get the upgrade.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on January 19, 2016, 05:50:35 PM
See if this helps update your phone to Windows 10:
http://www.howtogeek.com/elk/1118/413815/21386 (http://www.howtogeek.com/elk/1118/413815/21386)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on January 19, 2016, 05:54:02 PM
See if this helps update your phone to Windows 10:
http://www.howtogeek.com/elk/1118/413815/21386 (http://www.howtogeek.com/elk/1118/413815/21386)

Ill wait a bit and see if the update to that Lumiawe have here.

I dont really want to brick my grandpas mobile phone :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on January 19, 2016, 08:46:52 PM
See if this helps update your phone to Windows 10:
http://www.howtogeek.com/elk/1118/413815/21386 (http://www.howtogeek.com/elk/1118/413815/21386)
Nope, not signing up for the Insider thing on my phone.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on January 19, 2016, 09:35:55 PM
On this way i hope Gabe Aul will get out of his sickbed soon enough :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on January 19, 2016, 10:31:33 PM
One of the best things about the Windows Phone OS is that no AV protection is needed at all. It's far more secure than Android.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on January 19, 2016, 10:35:04 PM
One of the best things about the Windows Phone OS is that no AV protection is needed at all. It's far more secure than Android.

Thats a reason why i do not like Android........

But sooner or later Windows Mobile may be targeted depending on the user base.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on January 19, 2016, 10:43:48 PM
One of the best things about the Windows Phone OS is that no AV protection is needed at all. It's far more secure than Android.
When you have hardly any users (percentage wise) who would spend the time to hack the system ???
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Lisandro on January 19, 2016, 10:58:47 PM
One of the best things about the Windows Phone OS is that no AV protection is needed at all. It's far more secure than Android.
Indeed. It's surprisingly secure due to virtualization/sandboxing.
I could never understand why didn't these technologies migrate to PC...
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on January 19, 2016, 11:01:51 PM
One of the best things about the Windows Phone OS is that no AV protection is needed at all. It's far more secure than Android.
Indeed. It's surprisingly secure due to virtualization/sandboxing.
I could never understand why didn't these technologies migrate to PC...

Windows Server 2016 will have Containers and Hyper-V Containers :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on January 21, 2016, 08:40:26 PM
Windows 10 Insider Build 11102

Known issues: http://www.winbeta.org/news/known-issues-windows-10-redstone-insider-preview-build-11102

Release Notes: http://www.winbeta.org/news/microsoft-releases-windows-10-redstone-insider-build-11102
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on January 21, 2016, 10:11:30 PM
Windows 10 Insider Build 11102

Known issues: http://www.winbeta.org/news/known-issues-windows-10-redstone-insider-preview-build-11102

Release Notes: http://www.winbeta.org/news/microsoft-releases-windows-10-redstone-insider-build-11102
The first known issue would be a complete deal breaker for me. I'm glad I left Insider after the launch of 10.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on January 25, 2016, 06:02:17 PM
Latest Internal Windows 10 Redstone build takes a big jump to 14251 from 11107

http://www.winbeta.org/news/latest-internal-windows-10-redstone-build-takes-a-big-jump-to-14251-from-11107
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on January 27, 2016, 09:44:42 PM
Windows 10 Redstone Insider Preview build 14251 is out

Known issues: http://www.winbeta.org/news/windows-10-redstone-insider-preview-build-14251-known-issues

Whats new: http://www.winbeta.org/news/whats-new-in-windows-10-insider-redstone-build-14251

http://prntscr.com/9vnupg Good one.

New bug added: http://www.winbeta.org/news/microsoft-adds-edge-developer-tools-bug-windows-10-build-14251-known-issues-list
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on January 28, 2016, 12:50:06 AM
Windows 10 Spying is worse than I ever imagined

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVzc5wK2-pc
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on January 28, 2016, 01:15:31 AM
Windows Defender improves, rises above nearly half the competition in new antivirus test

http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-defender-improves-rises-above-nearly-half-the-competition-in-new-antivirus-test
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on February 03, 2016, 10:41:28 PM
Windows 10 scheduled upgrade

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3140166
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on February 04, 2016, 01:37:17 AM
Insider Build 14257 released

Issues: http://www.winbeta.org/news/known-issues-windows-10-redstone-insiders-preview-build-14257

Fixes: http://www.winbeta.org/news/heres-whats-fixed-windows-10-redstone-build-14257
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on February 06, 2016, 09:59:47 PM
I upgraded my newest computer to windows 10 around a week ago.  I like it but I can't find the control panel in start list.  I go to settings, search, type in control panel and that's the only way I can find it.

Could someone please tell me an easier way?

Thank you.

I'm not using that computer right now.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on February 06, 2016, 10:16:33 PM
I upgraded my newest computer to windows 10 around a week ago.  I like it but I can't find the control panel in start list.  I go to settings, search, type in control panel and that's the only way I can find it.

Could someone please tell me an easier way?

Thank you.

I'm not using that computer right now.

Right-click the start button and choose Control Panel :)

It will be removed later on in Windows and replaced by the settings app bit for bit.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on February 06, 2016, 10:29:55 PM
I upgraded my newest computer to windows 10 around a week ago.  I like it but I can't find the control panel in start list.  I go to settings, search, type in control panel and that's the only way I can find it.

Could someone please tell me an easier way?

Thank you.

I'm not using that computer right now.

Right-click the start button and choose Control Panel :)

It will be removed later on in Windows and replaced by the settings app bit for bit.

I still use 'Classic Start Menu' and Control Panel is right there on the upper right.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: essexboy on February 06, 2016, 10:36:14 PM
You can use windows + X

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on February 07, 2016, 12:28:37 AM
Thank you all.  I'll hook it up on Monday and install Classic Shell.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on February 07, 2016, 02:05:36 AM
Thank you all.  I'll hook it up on Monday and install Classic Shell.
All you neede to do was right click the Windows start button as already mentioned. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on February 09, 2016, 07:17:43 PM
Microsoft launches new Windows 10 update history page with full changelogs

http://www.winbeta.org/news/microsoft-launches-new-windows-10-update-history-page

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/update-history-windows-10
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on February 09, 2016, 08:17:52 PM
Yesterday I  installed Classic Shell and Malwarebytes on my computer running win 10.  Ran Malwarebytes and had 58 pup's or whatever they're called.  Most of them showed something about Classic Shell. When it finished scanning I deleted the 58 items, then uninstalled Classic Shell.  Now I have no problem finding the control panel.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on February 09, 2016, 08:41:00 PM
Yesterday I  installed Classic Shell and Malwarebytes on my computer running win 10.  Ran Malwarebytes and had 58 pup's or whatever they're called.  Most of them showed something about Classic Shell. When it finished scanning I deleted the 58 items, then uninstalled Classic Shell.  Now I have no problem finding the control panel.

PUP = Possibly Unwanted Programs.
The control panel was never missing. :) It's easy to find with or without Classic Shell. :)

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on February 09, 2016, 11:16:28 PM
Yesterday I  installed Classic Shell and Malwarebytes on my computer running win 10.  Ran Malwarebytes and had 58 pup's or whatever they're called.  Most of them showed something about Classic Shell. When it finished scanning I deleted the 58 items, then uninstalled Classic Shell.  Now I have no problem finding the control panel.
I have never had Malwarebytes find anything having to do with Classic Shell. I suspect you have the heuristic settings way too high. The defaults are plenty good enough. I haven't found 58 PUP's in the last 10 years. 30 at the most and they were all actually harmless.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on February 10, 2016, 12:23:19 AM
Yesterday I  installed Classic Shell and Malwarebytes on my computer running win 10.  Ran Malwarebytes and had 58 pup's or whatever they're called.  Most of them showed something about Classic Shell. When it finished scanning I deleted the 58 items, then uninstalled Classic Shell.  Now I have no problem finding the control panel.
I have never had Malwarebytes find anything having to do with Classic Shell. I suspect you have the heuristic settings way too high. The defaults are plenty good enough. I haven't found 58 PUP's in the last 10 years. 30 at the most and they were all actually harmless.

I use both Classic Shell and MBam together (with weekly scans) and have never had anything from Classic Shell attract any attention. ;D
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: polonus on February 12, 2016, 02:25:55 PM
A new chapter in the ongoing Win10 privacy discussion, the upload that was planned and now is not: http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-has-no-plans-to-change-windows-10-consumer-privacy-settings/
link article author Ed Bott.
Interesting to download a report on all the telemetry documented and presented here: https://channel9.msdn.com/Events/TechEd/Australia/2014/DPP312

For us it is important to know that MS holds that all data traffic is well and secured by MS via Windows Update, Windows Defender an the Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool (MSRT) and
Quote
existing privacy controls are reasonable for consumers and there's no need for a drastic change
.

polonus
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on February 12, 2016, 02:34:06 PM
A new chapter in the ongoing Win10 privacy discussion, the upload that was planned and now is not: http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-has-no-plans-to-change-windows-10-consumer-privacy-settings/ (http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-has-no-plans-to-change-windows-10-consumer-privacy-settings/)
link article author Ed Bott.
Interesting to download a report on all the telemetry documented and presented here: https://channel9.msdn.com/Events/TechEd/Australia/2014/DPP312 (https://channel9.msdn.com/Events/TechEd/Australia/2014/DPP312)

For us it is important to know that MS holds that all data traffic is well and secured by MS via Windows Update, Windows Defender an the Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool (MSRT) and
Quote
existing privacy controls are reasonable for consumers and there's no need for a drastic change
.

polonus
@Damien,
So what's Microsoft doing that isn't also being done by Google, Apple, etc ???
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: polonus on February 12, 2016, 02:58:09 PM
Hi bob3160,

It is the same tendency everywhere and we are out to fend for ourselves,
but did not we know that by now, dear bob3160, and certainly at our age.  ;)

I reported this message only, so everybody is aware and will act accordingly.
There is a batch script for inexperienced users to make Win10 more user-friendly: https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/3fn46j/i_made_my_own_userfriendly_windows_10_privacy/
-> http://pastebin.com/xq96nBGj

Damian
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on February 12, 2016, 03:20:35 PM
Hi bob3160,

It is the same tendency everywhere and we are out to fend for ourselves,
but did not we know that by now, dear bob3160, and certainly at our age.  ;)

I reported this message only, so everybody is aware and will act accordingly.
There is a batch script for inexperienced users to make Win10 more user-friendly: https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/3fn46j/i_made_my_own_userfriendly_windows_10_privacy/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/3fn46j/i_made_my_own_userfriendly_windows_10_privacy/)
-> http://pastebin.com/xq96nBGj (http://pastebin.com/xq96nBGj)

Damian
So you turn everything off in Windows 10 and then need to use Siri or Google to get your answers ???
Turning everything off also prevents getting much of the information we look for.
It's a personal decision and depends on the individual if they are willing to share some of their information in order to get
pinpoint accurate information when they search for something.
Privacy only exists if you've never visited the internet. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: polonus on February 12, 2016, 03:34:29 PM
Hi bob3160,

There should always be a balance for every individual user. I certainly would not do irresponsible tweaking like you block Windows Update, Windows Defender an the Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool (MSRT), just to take the extra, extra most invasive aspects out. Now for every account they know all of your other accounts on all your peripherals and even all on the device becomes predictive. We see cases now that users are traced through their Twitter, Facebook accounts and hold responsible for their utterings. In a free society that is not a major problem, but whenever that changes...  :o
Good Cortana has not arrived in Europe, at the other side of the Atlantic people are just more lenient about disclosing personal information than we are here, but there is also a difference per culture or country.

polonus
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on February 12, 2016, 05:42:48 PM
I would agree with Microsoft and Ed Bott. He usually has all the correct info about Windows. I don't see a need for all this paranoia. The funny part is that every version of Windows (and other OS's) have been doing this same stuff for years. The main difference in Win 10 is that they tell you about it. Do you think they can't get access to your data in Windows 7? Or in any of the Mac OS's? Dream on.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on February 26, 2016, 12:33:56 AM
Restoring the System Tray Icons in Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 14271 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0ZfLdOEgNY)

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on February 29, 2016, 01:38:32 AM
http://www.ghacks.net/2016/02/28/run-windows-defender-offline/

Windows Defender Offline now integrated into Win 10 Insider Builds

And also theres now Defender version 4.10 :) So we can again expect some better protection hopefully.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on February 29, 2016, 06:33:21 PM
http://www.ghacks.net/2016/02/28/run-windows-defender-offline/

Windows Defender Offline now integrated into Win 10 Insider Builds

And also theres now Defender version 4.10 :) So we can again expect some better protection hopefully.
This is very good news. Now, if they could fix the still present issue with Defender taking extremely long to scan folders containing a lot of .exe files, in particular, the Downloads folder, they'd have something. The main reason  I don't use Defender is that on first access of the Downloads folder after a restart or cold boot, it takes up to 3 minutes for the files in the folder to be usable. No other AV I have tried exhibits that behavior. The only solution in Defender is to add that Downloads folder to exclusions which of course is less than optimal. If that one issue was fixed, I probably would settle for using just Defender and the Windows Firewall.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on March 01, 2016, 02:21:02 PM
Announcing Windows Defender Advanced Threat Protection

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2016/03/01/announcing-windows-defender-advanced-threat-protection/
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on March 01, 2016, 03:01:21 PM
Announcing Windows Defender Advanced Threat Protection

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2016/03/01/announcing-windows-defender-advanced-threat-protection/ (https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2016/03/01/announcing-windows-defender-advanced-threat-protection/)
Something Avast has been doing for years. It's nice to see that Microsoft is learning. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on March 01, 2016, 03:02:32 PM
Announcing Windows Defender Advanced Threat Protection

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2016/03/01/announcing-windows-defender-advanced-threat-protection/ (https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2016/03/01/announcing-windows-defender-advanced-threat-protection/)
Something Avast has been doing for years. It's nice to see that Microsoft is learning. :)

In which way is Avast doing this for years?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on March 01, 2016, 03:08:04 PM
Announcing Windows Defender Advanced Threat Protection

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2016/03/01/announcing-windows-defender-advanced-threat-protection/ (https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2016/03/01/announcing-windows-defender-advanced-threat-protection/)
Something Avast has been doing for years. It's nice to see that Microsoft is learning. :)

In which way is Avast doing this for years?
Most of us feed Avast with any new infections we may run into. That's what allows the guys in the virus lab to quickly
protect us against new infections
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on March 01, 2016, 03:09:57 PM
Announcing Windows Defender Advanced Threat Protection

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2016/03/01/announcing-windows-defender-advanced-threat-protection/ (https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2016/03/01/announcing-windows-defender-advanced-threat-protection/)
Something Avast has been doing for years. It's nice to see that Microsoft is learning. :)

In which way is Avast doing this for years?
Most of us feed Avast with any new infections we may run into. That's what allows the guys in the virus lab to quickly
protect us against new infections

Windows Defender ATP uses Cloud AI with tons of data, we will see how it turns out :)  I would like MS to make use in some way of this in Home use versions of Windows 10 to improve it even further.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Pondus on March 02, 2016, 11:12:03 AM
Updates for Windows 10 Version 1511
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/update-history-windows-10?tduid=%24ee3c9c867a9218b4e05b4fc0a561de57%24%24256380%24%242459594%24%24TnL5HPStwNw-UXHoL6oTw2p1zER8HyMtkQ%24%24%24

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: abruptum on March 09, 2016, 09:04:49 PM
Security Update MS16-023 installs new “Get Windows 10” functionality

  http://www.ghacks.net/2016/03/09/security-update-ms16-023-installs-new-get-windows-10-functionality/


Windows patch KB 3139929: When a security update is not a security update

  http://www.infoworld.com/article/3042155/microsoft-windows/windows-patch-kb-3139929-when-a-security-update-is-not-a-security-update.html
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: schmidthouse on March 11, 2016, 07:29:31 PM
Well finally decided to take the time and upgrade my W8.1 to Windows 10
The thing I find interesting, is the Machine (HP Compaq 8510p) I purchased new with XP PRO originally installed at point of sale years ago.
The machine was updated to W8 Pro after many years of excellent XP service. The machine was then updated to W8.1 Pro where it now sits ready and "capable" of running W10 Pro.
Interesting 8)

Addition: Process took 58 minutes
Only one program needed reinstalling (MS Network Monitor) Others updated and Reset to W10 once OS rebooted.
Very Smooth.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: mchain on March 12, 2016, 10:17:14 AM
Sometime around early August of last year I upgraded from Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit, and like you found the process very smooth and reasonably quick.  The only program that was not compatible was TrendMicro's RUBotted, a rather obsolete security program, which I uninstalled.  Currently running version 10.0.10240.  Never saw issues with the Start button or Cortana or other so far.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on March 12, 2016, 03:43:54 PM
Windows 7 machines automatically upgrading WITHOUT permission to Windows 10

http://news.softpedia.com/news/windows-10-upgrade-reportedly-starting-automatically-on-windows-7-pcs-501651.shtml

If this is really the case: Scxxx you Microsoft!!!!!
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: essexboy on March 12, 2016, 05:07:11 PM
Doesn't Apple do the same with IOS ?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on March 12, 2016, 05:10:16 PM
Doesn't Apple do the same with IOS ?
That's OK because we all know, there aren't any viruses on a Mac. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: essexboy on March 12, 2016, 05:11:32 PM
And they protect your security and data wholeheartedly and never collect anything from the system :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on March 13, 2016, 09:36:31 PM
Windows 7 machines automatically upgrading WITHOUT permission to Windows 10

http://news.softpedia.com/news/windows-10-upgrade-reportedly-starting-automatically-on-windows-7-pcs-501651.shtml

If this is really the case: Scxxx you Microsoft!!!!!
Neither one of my Windows 7 machines received anything about the upgrade  through Windows Update.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Pondus on March 17, 2016, 03:01:47 PM
Microsoft is launching Windows 10 Mobile on March 17
http://venturebeat.com/2016/03/16/microsoft-is-launching-windows-10-mobile-on-march-17/


Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on March 18, 2016, 03:39:55 PM
(http://screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1458311581350-89352.png)
You'll notice that the "Show all Icons" has been fixed and is working.
All the changes in the Preview Builds including the latest (14291) can be found at:
http://www.askvg.com/windows-10-changelog/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AskVG+%28AskVG%29 (http://www.askvg.com/windows-10-changelog/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AskVG+%28AskVG%29)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Pondus on March 21, 2016, 08:33:24 AM
"You are all gonna FREAK OUT": Microsoft program managers tease new Windows 10 features
http://www.neowin.net/news/you-are-all-gonna-freak-out-microsoft-program-managers-tease-new-windows-10-features

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on March 21, 2016, 02:09:33 PM
A comprehensive Windows 10 Guide:
http://www.solvusoft.com/en/windows-10-troubleshooting-guide/#
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on March 24, 2016, 02:24:17 PM
Blocking Windows 10 Upgrade from Windows 7 and Windows 8.1
An easy way to do this is to install the GWX Control Panel (http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/)
(http://screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1458825617497-36710.png)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Lotan on March 24, 2016, 03:27:32 PM
"You are all gonna FREAK OUT": Microsoft program managers tease new Windows 10 features
http://www.neowin.net/news/you-are-all-gonna-freak-out-microsoft-program-managers-tease-new-windows-10-features

"new feature is that it will now track even more of your personal information and sell it to advertising companies and other people"

all joking aside i hope its the ability to play xbone games on a pc without needing to own an xbone.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on March 24, 2016, 03:30:01 PM
"You are all gonna FREAK OUT": Microsoft program managers tease new Windows 10 features
http://www.neowin.net/news/you-are-all-gonna-freak-out-microsoft-program-managers-tease-new-windows-10-features

"new feature is that it will now track even more of your personal information and sell it to advertising companies and other people"

all joking aside i hope its the ability to play xbone games on a pc without needing to own an xbone.

Its named XBox BTW......

Anyway you may want to know that MS will now offer GWX to Business PCs that do not have their own update management software in use.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Lotan on March 24, 2016, 03:44:03 PM
"You are all gonna FREAK OUT": Microsoft program managers tease new Windows 10 features
http://www.neowin.net/news/you-are-all-gonna-freak-out-microsoft-program-managers-tease-new-windows-10-features

"new feature is that it will now track even more of your personal information and sell it to advertising companies and other people"

all joking aside i hope its the ability to play xbone games on a pc without needing to own an xbone.

Its named XBox BTW......

XBOne is shorthand for xbox one
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on March 24, 2016, 04:09:04 PM
"You are all gonna FREAK OUT": Microsoft program managers tease new Windows 10 features
http://www.neowin.net/news/you-are-all-gonna-freak-out-microsoft-program-managers-tease-new-windows-10-features (http://www.neowin.net/news/you-are-all-gonna-freak-out-microsoft-program-managers-tease-new-windows-10-features)
(snip)
XBOne is shorthand for xbox one
5 letters is shorter than 4 ??? Certainly not shorthand. :) Nickname is more accurate. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on March 26, 2016, 03:15:05 AM
"You are all gonna FREAK OUT": Microsoft program managers tease new Windows 10 features
http://www.neowin.net/news/you-are-all-gonna-freak-out-microsoft-program-managers-tease-new-windows-10-features

"new feature is that it will now track even more of your personal information and sell it to advertising companies and other people"

all joking aside i hope its the ability to play xbone games on a pc without needing to own an xbone.

Its named XBox BTW......

XBOne is shorthand for xbox one
Exactly and it's 2 letters and a space shorter.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on March 27, 2016, 11:47:46 PM
(http://screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1459114120296-10957.png)
(http://screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1459114418324-32424.png)



Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on March 30, 2016, 04:16:41 PM
I had to buy a new monitor because the one I had been using wasn't compatible with my newest computer.   Got everything hooked up, checked for win updates and once again it installed win 10.
I like it but I can't find Internet Explorer.  I don't like Microsoft Edge at all so can someone please tell me how I can fine IE?

Thank you.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Pondus on March 30, 2016, 04:25:58 PM
Quote
I like it but I can't find Internet Explorer.  I don't like Microsoft Edge at all so can someone please tell me how I can fine IE?
At lower left is a magnifying glass ... click and write internet explorer .... when it pops up, click it / or right click on it and select a option to pin it where you want it for easy access
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on March 30, 2016, 04:33:17 PM
Found it.  Thank you
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Secondmineboy on March 30, 2016, 04:52:53 PM
Watch todays Build 2016 here

https://channel9.msdn.com/events/build/2016?ocid=minibanner
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on March 30, 2016, 10:21:00 PM
Watch todays Build 2016 here

https://channel9.msdn.com/events/build/2016?ocid=minibanner (https://channel9.msdn.com/events/build/2016?ocid=minibanner)
My only comment:
I wish I had another 75 years. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on April 01, 2016, 01:00:16 AM
Watch todays Build 2016 here

https://channel9.msdn.com/events/build/2016?ocid=minibanner
Only interesting thing to me is the 3D printing. That in itself is amazing.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on April 02, 2016, 07:49:33 PM
Windows 10 v. 14295
The easiest way to get installation and upgrade media is via the Media Creation Tool:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
Direct download link: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=691209
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on April 02, 2016, 08:03:14 PM
Windows 10 v. 14295
The easiest way to get installation and upgrade media is via the Media Creation Tool:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
Direct download link: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=691209
Is it a preview build or a release?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on April 02, 2016, 08:32:40 PM
Windows 10 v. 14295
The easiest way to get installation and upgrade media is via the Media Creation Tool:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10)
Direct download link: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=691209 (http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=691209)
Is it a preview build or a release?
You tell me. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Charyb on April 02, 2016, 09:45:36 PM
Windows 10 v. 14295
The easiest way to get installation and upgrade media is via the Media Creation Tool:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10)
Direct download link: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=691209 (http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=691209)
Is it a preview build or a release?
Insider preview.


https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2016/03/25/announcing-windows-10-insider-preview-build-14295-for-pc-and-mobile/
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on April 04, 2016, 06:30:42 PM
Just updated to the latest version of Avast on my husband's win 7 computer and noticed it's ready to upgrade to win 10.  Will it take longer to upgrade to win 10 on a win 7 computer than it did on win 8.1?

Would appreciate any input.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on April 04, 2016, 09:04:41 PM
Just updated to the latest version of Avast on my husband's win 7 computer and noticed it's ready to upgrade to win 10.  Will it take longer to upgrade to win 10 on a win 7 computer than it did on win 8.1?

Would appreciate any input.

Thank you.
It takes a couple of hrs. regardless of which version the upgrade is made from.
Having your current system as up to date as possible always eases the task.
Preparing an image backup prior to the upgrade makes sure you have something to fall back on should something go wrong.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on April 07, 2016, 12:54:49 AM
(http://screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1459983081604-48030.png)
Upgrade to Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 14316 in 1 Min. 47 Sec. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaCPJeHKnrw)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Pondus on April 07, 2016, 11:53:53 PM
Announcing Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 14316
https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2016/04/06/announcing-windows-10-insider-preview-build-14316/


Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on April 09, 2016, 03:47:32 PM
Announcing Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 14316
https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2016/04/06/announcing-windows-10-insider-preview-build-14316/ (https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2016/04/06/announcing-windows-10-insider-preview-build-14316/)
There appears to be a problem with this latest build that effects your registration.
My system currently shows the following:
(http://screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1460209198152-4329.png)
When you use the Change product Key to enter the correct registration you'll get an error:


(http://screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1460209420935-6384.png)


The problem is currently being discussed on the Insider forum.
Since I have the needed registration information, I'll simply be patient till Microsoft
fixes their problem most likely by the next preview release build.

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: mchain on April 12, 2016, 11:46:24 PM
Just upgraded to version 1511 via Windows Update yesterday even tho released November 2015.   ???

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: -midnight on April 13, 2016, 01:51:42 PM
Can you get add on's for the Microsoft Edge browser?
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: CraigB on April 13, 2016, 01:55:03 PM
Can you get add on's for the Microsoft Edge browser?
Not yet, supposed to be available after the next major update.
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Pondus on April 13, 2016, 01:57:02 PM
It is amazing what can be found if you search   ;)

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/extensions-in-microsoft-edge

https://www.google.no/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=add%20ons%20for%20edge%20browser



Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on April 23, 2016, 12:40:51 AM
Notice Windows Defender is now running along side Avast after the latest update:
(http://screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1461364589902-36219.png)
After another requested re-boot, Defender is now OFF:
(http://screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1461366173499-80923.png)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on April 23, 2016, 01:16:18 AM
Some new items in the Search and Cortana Settings:
(http://screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1461366878120-69918.png)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Pondus on April 23, 2016, 08:57:41 AM
Announcing Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 14328 for PC and Mobile
https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2016/04/22/announcing-windows-10-insider-preview-build-14328-for-pc-and-mobile/

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Pondus on April 23, 2016, 08:59:15 AM
Pentagon to Launch Massive Windows 10 Deployment, Upgrading All 4 Million Computers
http://wccftech.com/pentagon-to-launch-the-largest-windows-10-deployment/

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on April 27, 2016, 04:37:53 PM
(http://screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1461767465563-60070.png)
Please note, of the 5 computers I currently have running Windows 10,
One is on version 1511 and uses Avast for protection,
One is running Windows 10 Pro Insider Preview build 14328 protected by Avast.
The other 1 64 bit and 2 32 bit computers refuse to update unless Avast is totally removed.

Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: essexboy on April 27, 2016, 08:35:31 PM
Another insider build .. 14332   http://betanews.com/2016/04/27/windows-10-build-14332/
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on April 27, 2016, 09:28:09 PM
I got tired of waiting for my Lumia 640 LTE to receive the Win 10 Mobile upgrade. I installed the mobile Insider app and told it to get the latest build. What I got was version 1511 build 10586.107. As far as I could tell this is not a preview build but rather the release build for Lumia phones. I then went back into the Insider app and left the Preview program and switched to production updates. It then suggested I search for updates and I received 1511-10586.218. So far so good but I notice , in my usage, very little difference from the Windows Phone 8.1 Denim that the phone came with. The biggest difference is that now I have the mobile Edge browser instead of IE. The mail program is a little different and I have 3 Office apps, Word, Excel, and Powerpoint. Cortana is different too but since I only use that for searches without the voice function, there's no difference for me. There are substantial differences from Phone 8.1 but I don't really use many of the new functions.

I'm assuming I will not be receiving any preview builds now but will only get  normal updates and the full Redstone build when it is released. That's how I want it so I'm satisfied. 
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on April 30, 2016, 09:23:48 PM
(http://screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1462043981975-69900.png)
http://www.thewindowsclub.com/fixwin-for-windows-10 (http://www.thewindowsclub.com/fixwin-for-windows-10)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: essexboy on May 03, 2016, 03:43:03 PM
Edge adblocker extension http://betanews.com/2016/05/03/block-ads-in-microsoft-edge-in-windows-10/
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: essexboy on May 08, 2016, 12:28:01 PM
End of a free update soon http://betanews.com/2016/05/05/windows-10-free-upgrade-offer-ending/
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on May 08, 2016, 03:52:42 PM
End of a free update soon http://betanews.com/2016/05/05/windows-10-free-upgrade-offer-ending/ (http://betanews.com/2016/05/05/windows-10-free-upgrade-offer-ending/)
My rumor mill tells me that this is only going to be the end of this offer, an extension for a free conversion
will most likely be extended. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: polonus on May 10, 2016, 02:24:27 PM
Well whatever... run this anyways: https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10
Selling your meta-data is the name of the game for M$ now, else why offer Windows-10 for free.
Keep some sort of control with this free tool which just can be run and does not even have to be installed.

polonus
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: bob3160 on May 10, 2016, 02:43:04 PM
Well whatever... run this anyways: https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10 (https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10)
Selling your meta-data is the name of the game for M$ now, else why offer Windows-10 for free.
Keep some sort of control with this free tool which just can be run and does not even have to be installed.

polonus
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=156141.msg1249912#msg1249912
Title: Re: Windows 10 - Everything you Need and Want to Know
Post by: Dch48 on May 10, 2016, 09:48:59 PM
Well whatever... run this anyways: https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10
Selling your meta-data is the name of the game for M$ now, else why offer Windows-10 for free.
Keep some sort of control with this free tool which just can be run and does not even have to be installed.

polonus
In my opinion, not needed.
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